Seventeen fans boycott HYBE, Hyein NOT to promote with NewJeans, LE SSERAFIM's Sakura gets backlash
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- Seventeen fans are over HYBE as the company's recent actions towards the group have left many fans with sour taste in their mouths. What's more, Hyein will not join NewJeans during their promotions as a result of her injury and LE SSERAFIM's Sakura has gotten more backlash for her seemingly innocent response.
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Winter’s dad is such a dad 😭
Tat y we have a cutest angel being born 🤣
He is inviting hate towards himself
Wow, what a thought provoking comment 🙄
@@urhypeboyW comment honestly
@@frvrrr7
So far he got only support and praise)
Isn’t bullying like a huge thing in Korea ??? I think it’s ironic how netizens are so against it but they are the main audience displaying such behavior
It is because this got out of control there. Internet is just reflecting the situation at the Korean schools for me considering most of senseless hate comments comes from obsessive teens. Very concerning and those underage young’s need to be hold responsible for their actions. And parents instead of bugging idols for not setting good examples for their kids should educate them better
Because KNetz are hypocrites
its not even the first time. Remember Garam, Soojin, Chen, Woojin and Hyunjin cases? They are so "against bullying" but its exactly what they do
yes korea likes to bully the most and those same people will witchhunt the most in the name of antibully by bullying them, play victum if its their fav.
Like most Asians they are hypocrites
Fromis_9 reminds me of CLC. Waiting and waiting for a comeback while their company just waiting for their contract to expire.
it makes me so sad, expecially when they want to be performing
Writing is on the wall for them. Their company should just let them go rather than just sideline them like this.
You are right I was just thinking the same and I love both groups
Fromis9 has been doing performance. They just had a concert. Plus they have content on their RUclips channel. Of you have problems email pledis entertainment
@nicoleloss7987 you must didn't watch the video. One of the Fromis9 members actually complained about wanted a comeback their last one was last summer. Then she apologized what she said. We're not ones who's complaining about. The MEMBERS themselves who are complaining.
That's why I said it reminds me of CLC. CLC wanted comeback, and their company refused, then their company finally let them go when their contract finally expire. Samething is happening with Fromis9.
WE BELIEVE IN MUSIC ❌
WE BELIEVE IN MONEY ✅
Facts 💯
THIS IS AN ATTACK ON HYBE GROUPS.
Someone (someone powerful who has money) is going after hybe. They are instigating verbal abuse and vicious attacks... maybe even whispered in MHJ ear to get her to think about leaving hybe and taking NJ.
Why? I can't quite put my finger on it.
I think it might have something to do with Hybe signing a deal with UMG. This is hybe crossing over into big money and big leagues of power. I have a feeling Chaebol families do not like it. South Korea is their turf and in their control, they say who can climb/rise and who can't. And no one should be daring to rise above them.
Hybe wanting money?... of course they do doughnuts 🙄
The more money hybe have, the more they can pay & invest in the idols & staff who kill themselves everyday doing their best. Do you really think it's just idols that work there?
Do any of you know anything about business or economics or security at all?
When BTS started working officially as idols, they couldn't pay them for 2 years, because they couldn't - 2 f-ing years! Seriously, who wants to work for free? Thats slavery! But they had no choice.
Now they can pay their idols straight away.... provide comfortable dorms, safe, secure work environment, etc.... do you think hybe gets that for free?
They also need money so they can have capital to invest in other sectors..... why? So everything is not reliant on idols bringing in money.... it provides more security to the staff that work there.... i.e.... if another covid type situation hit.... they can still pay staff coz idols working is not the only thing that brings in money.
Don't you want idols to have more rest days??? Well guess what... that cost money too. Money = security. Who wants to live pay check to pay check? Clearly ya'll never been poor to be saying shit like "hybe just wants money". 🙄
business is money.
That's business sadly
Writing "we believe in music" while having artists that know nothing about "music" is hilarious 💀
“Let’s hope the company takes it seriously”
Meanwhile hybe:hmm what excuse should I plan for min hee Jin ?
Well I know it's a serious issue but it's still funny the way you wrote it.😂
Things with hype is being messy they are slowly proving they are ridiculous and they are being more worst than sm itself
They're bad alright but Worse than SM? That's a long way to go. Hybe would need to adapt the sm slave contracts which are more than 7 years 😂
Also hybe needs to learn the kind of mistreatment that sm gives to their artists for them to be desperate to leave all at once(most popular exo members, most popular shinee member, boa wanting to retire, wendy begging her fans not to audition for sm)
@@madkmadk6809 I mean, SM have its issues, but their issues are the same every company has: greed. The difference is some companies are better at hiding it. But the thing is SM has never had issues with pitting their groups against each other. They’ll promote one after the other and their 3.0 business model basically states everyone gets a comeback and everyone gets a tour. They’re not gonna sit out a group with no reason (a la fromis_9). I’d argue HYBE is worse because the skeletons we do know about are just the tip of the iceberg with them. We know SM’s issues because they’re front and center.
Girrl you are over reacting 😂 SM is much worse ask their idols
that's a stretch. they are not saint, for sure but saying worse than SM is laughable.
@@jessi5288 fromis_9 mistreatment is not on hybe it's on pledis ceo. He doesn't want to promote his girl groups. He did this with pristin too. And he will do it with the next pledis girlgroup too as long as he's the ceo. Before even joining hybe he did it to pristin. Hybe isn't stopping him from promoting fromis_9. If he asked for funding for fromis_9 comeback and tour from hybe, he'd get it. It's just he is the one who is lazy to invest effort and work into fromis9 concept and songs. Have you seen how a lot of sm's biggest stars all left ? Especially exo members(the only sm group i ever stanned) I'm never forgiving sm for sending baekhyun chen and xiumin to court just because they didn't wanna recontract with sm again. Thankfully they left along with D.O. Now shinee taemin and onew left too. Taeyeon wants to retire. How sm treated lucas scandal. How they kicked out riize seunghan. They have troubles in almost every single group and sm artist almost never get creative freedom on writing songs of their own. Do you not see the problem that SM is worse than hybe when literally everyone wants in sm wants to leave? There are plenty more idols wanting to join hybe(i.e gidle shuhua) than sm. I think that answers who is the lesser evil. If anyone of my fave wants to leave hybe I'll be fine. But i don't want anyone joining sm ever again
You know, It's cool that once SM debuts a group, they are bound to debut a sister group for them (Suju & SNSD, SHINee & F(X), Exo & Redvelvet, NCT & Aespa, RIIZE & New Group).. They're soo consistent with their pattern.
Pink blood for life ❤❤
This is why they r the definition of K-pop
i like this a lot lol its easier to remember them... its not random and scattered...neat
@@exp-io853 agree 👍🏻
Yess, boy groups and girl groups alternatively
The only girl group who has the best vocals in Hybe gets the less promotions seriously hybe
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@@Queendom-jd9ln What no. It's been more then a year. And yes they are the only girl group in hybe that CAN ACTUALLY SING WELL AND ARE WELL. If you disagree with me then do. I don't care. but this is the truth.
That's PLEDIS entertainment not the entire HYBE. People these days drag the whole HYBE when things go negative but praise PLEDIS when it's positive.
Hybe is just a mess.
ama mess mess mess mess💋
Except BTS
@@frvrrr7what a shady thing to say lol
yeh.
@@frvrrr7 your bts is also shady they sign some sort of contact.
When a group gets a "bad thing", blame the sub label... but when a group gets a "good thing", praise the main label lol
Hybe isn't a label
Actually, it's the opposite. When a group does something good, they praise their company, e.g, Bight pledis, KOz etc when the group does something bad, they blame Hybe. This comes from someone who stans most of the hybe groups. Love them ❤
@@onyinyemartins5889
Lol no that's not true...
Yup
HYBE is ruining kpop. Crazy
Literally tell me how? Bcz fight between 2 CEOs is not our consent even when Court is involved but kpopies are more interested in hybe then there favs that's the problem they think hybe is kpop when sm , yg , cube and jyp biggest criminal scandals didn't ruining kpop this is nothing
I might stop stanning kpop groups at this point lke, the only thing on social media these days is Boycott this Boycott that, I am fed up with the stans and the companies getting into controversies. It's frustrating.
I’ve stopped stanning and paying attention to a lot of groups because of how toxic kpop fans are it’s literally ridiculous.
Yeah like, Skz just made their new single today and on Pinterest there was this girl that posted a whisper with something like: We should boycott Lose My Breath because Jyp refuse the collab with Chase Atlantic and made them collab with Charlie Puth. Like just enjoy the music, you should be grateful that they did a song😭Im so mad with stays these days
@@vittoromasantarato3181if its on pinterest its prob a joke, but yeah, i agree
@@vittoromasantarato3181 I don't think the boycott was because jyp refused to collab with chase Atlantic but because Charlie Puth was a zoinist and made jokes about rape
XG is my only girl group! and thank god they don't claim kpop!!! They can't be compared because they are too high up.
I feel bad for hyein. She is so talented and so are the members of NJ on top of that they are so young too to go through so much. Hybe seriously needs to get its way right for seventeen and NJ. This is so unfair. All of them work hard.
Lol sure
They already give them tones of promotions don't cry check last year data who is most promoted hybe group bg 17 ,gg njs know you all want each and everything for them
Get well soon Hyein!
Sakura was talking about their fan meeting, tbh the way kpoppies put words into idols mouths is dehumanizing, like bfr
People would rather listen to sensationalistic news reporting than the actual people themselves. Weird behaviour.....
The fact that every single mess in this video is related to hybe is wildddd💀💀💀💀
150$?! Hell. Special place in hell.
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As a carat I hate hybe so much not only because of svt but also for TWS and FROMIS_9 🤷🏻♀️
Pledis girlgroups never once got promoted in their entire history of company. But what happened to TWS? I thought they are new?
@@user-gy8zq6vb3j yeah i know that this channel is media playing on MHJ side and also noticed the negative content it keeps posting about LSF. So i don't really like this channel either. But usually they twist something and then make it into something bad(for example pledis is the one mistreating their girlgroups but they everyone is blaming hybe) so i was wondering what they were using for TWS.
Pls don't pretend like Pledis was a saintly company before the Hybe acquirement, We all know what happened to Pristin, After School and Nuest🤚
Las-- even NewJeans, las.
Honestly fromis_9 deserves soooo much better because omfg their vocals are good and I love their music. Pledis needs to wake up and treat these girls better but knowing them, they probably won't.
The only problem with Sakura is that she seriously needs to work on her vocals so I hope that's what she meant by practicing and it's not just her dance skills. I'm not a Le sserafim fan but the hate they get is going too far. It's not constructive criticism anymore but instead plain hate so I'm routing for her to get better and show these haters that she can grow!
Justice for Seventeen! They work so hard and Hybe won't even promote them well. I stand by this boycotte, Hybe needs to seriously wake up and stop being so money hungry. They're behaving like a gold digging ex
Sakura said she was practicing for their upcoming fanmeeting then later mentioned that she did vocal lessons that day too! :D
@@yoyoonah heck yeah! I'm glad she took the initiative and is hoping to show her improved vocals to their fans at the fanmeet🙃
Blame pledis for the promotion
Gold diggers are a bit different, bruv. Hybe?? HYBE?!? Hybe is like-- fucking money hungry, but this is to a new level. I fucking hate them...
Hyein is their center and her talent is needed for balance for the group 😢
She got injured bruh. Nothing she can do.
@@vulamnguyen9453 i know of course it's not her fault
Let them just postpone the comeback, the girls can also rest a bit
@@vulamnguyen9453
i feel its a blessing in disguise, being the youngest and with promoting among all the controversies... it cld really affect her mentally. i dont want the girls to be dragged more into this whole Min Heejin/Hybe mess.
@@jmismyjam right! sometimes its best minors take a backseat. the industry is already messy enough. hope she gets better though.
After MHJ came out with the mistreatment, one by one slowly coming out as well. I'm speechless with Hybe at this point.
winter's dad being such a cute dad 😍😍😍
Tat y we have a cutest angel being born 🤣
With all the idols who took their lives after going through bad experiences, there definitely needs to be more dads like this protecting their kids 😢
@@Sisima13 why bring the dead in every convo? It's gone, why sympathize yourself with someone's death?
@@haerinisinlovewithhanni What "every convo" are you talking about? I’ve only commented once about this to say that parents should be protective of their kids like Winter’s dad.
@@Sisima13 so you think the parents of the dead idols weren't protective? or if their dads were like winter's they wouldn't have taken their lives?
$150??!!! Who the fcuk is buying a freaking album for that much money?? That’s a fcuking 1st concert ticket right there shooot
see how everything bad is happening to hybe rn and they were the fan favorite company a month ago. how internet can crush anything if they want to. companies of all kind should be careful, this is a mess they created
well hybe deserve it. Not the idols tho
@@misskata8511 ofc, 100% agree, it's just surprising to see how everything is happening at the same time, each day it gets worse
Not winter's father being the best father
To be honest SM artist parents r the most supportive like Winter father is the best example 😊😊
@_.-jq1psI am saying about SM artist not anyone else. I am from the first generation of K-pop and BoA also from SM and parents supported her as well
@_.-jq1ps oh did I sound mean and disrespectful 🤔?? Did I mention any other groups or companies ah?? More like u should mind your own business if u don’t agree then is ur problem ya
Over here is talking about Winter who is from SM.
He shouldn't have tried to shade Bang pd. What bangpd said was any normal business person would say, now if we hybe fans give it back to him it's his fault to get involved
@@Hahahaha10188toxic SM stan
To those saying to blame Pledis and not HYBE for price inflation of the albums: Pledis shares breakdown is 85% HYBE, 10% Founder, 5% Sony. With that amount of shares they might as well just rename Pledis to HYBE-2 💀
85% hybe😶, are you sure
Now im little worried about svt
@@prettybeast6411 I googled it. Seems to be true. I guess they control everything behind the scenes. These sub-labels are just a front. I don't think they just fund the sub-labels and let them do anything with the money when their shares is that high. They will make sure that what they invested comes back to them with higher gains. So they have to be in total control for that to happen.
@@prettybeast6411 I googled it. Seems to be true. These sub-labels are just a front act. They control everything from behind the scenes. I don't think they just fund their sub-labels and let them do anything they want. The sub-labels present their plans and HYBE still has the last say if they approve or not. They will make sure that what they invested will come back to them with huge gains.
@@prettybeast6411 I googled it. Seems to be true. These sub-labels are just a front act. HYBE controls everything from behind the scenes. I don't think they just fund their sub-labels and let them do anything they want. The sub-labels present their plans and HYBE still has the last say if they approve or not. They will make sure that what they invested will come back to them with huge gains.
@@prettybeast6411 I googled it. Seems to be true. These sub-labels are just a front act. HYBE controls everything from behind the scenes. I don't think they just fund their sub-labels and let them do anything they want. The sub-labels present their plans and HYBE still has the last say if they approve or not. They will make sure that what they invested will come back to them with huge gains.
HYBE is literally becoming the most controversial company of 2024 fr
Well didn't all of them faced some contreversy. SM entertainment had internal feud not long ago. Then It was YG. The only Big one we have not heard from so far is JYP.
I'm not boycotting my idols. No way. I can't knowingly sabotage their hardwork, the idols are innocent. There are hundred other ways to protest
i think they are boycotting the merch not the albums or comeback. ever since pledis acuired by hybe i've seen a lots of complaints about unnecessary merch that also very pricey and low quality
the money is going to the company mostly. that's why they are boycotting. you can enjoy their music even by talking about the song, theorizing, fanart, etc. boycott is done to hurt the company's money that they are currently extracting out of you to overwork them.
@@Gosecherry17 I'm an army n moa. And yes boycotters are boycotting the albums. I'm not interested in photocards or other unnecessary merch. For army's merchs are not really released recently. I've seen a ton of boycotters specifically boycotting only neuron n txt's recent album minisode 3
@@vi1895 I don't know about svt merch actually. I've seen the recent issue of resellers buying albums for photocards. Since the photocards come within the album, people buy it in mass. I think there are plenty of methods other than boycotting the groups
@@ann61320 the issue here is the involvement of Scooter Braun. If all the fans of Hybe groups actively protest against it, it's possible to remove him from his post. This boycotting thing is not consistent, it's done differently with each group, for eg with BTS they're boycotting albums, TXT too, svt with merch, I don't think boycotting is done to any ggs except lsrfm. So no way this is gonna work. Boycotting merch will only lead to a small loss. And scooter is associated with hybe America. It's not directly involved with hybe labels. An effective method should be adopted instead of doing it like this, which would result in ntg
Fromis_9 is an actual gg in hybe with good vocals but they don’t get the promotion they deserve so unfair
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Well maybe I will be a little bit grateful to MHJ for exposing Hybe's dark side, otherwise maybe people are still blind and think Hybe is the HOLY company
She's a nut job I hope they fire her and new jeans gets a real manager
Pathetic that people are willing to hurt groups, they are HYBE pretty immature
Literally it’s so weird…
To anybody whose been boycotting JHope's "Neuron" -- YOU ARE NOT ARMY!👿 ARMYs DON'T HURT!😉 We've been INFILTRATED in large numbers for a while now, by malicious antis 😤and abusive solos😖"PRETENDING" to be ARMY and claiming to hurt BTS (for their own good, of course😏) just to "punish" HYBE. LIARS.👿 Is THAT how we spell ENVY & JEALOUSY now?😳 "Boycott"?😳 I hope ARMYs EVERYWHERE -- WISE UP & CLEAN HOUSE before ALL the boys (💜) get back! I'd rather the ARMY fandom be SMALLER but LOYAL, RATHER than ENORMOUS but FULL of snakes.😟
these boycotts are done to hurt the company's money/profit. not your idol image. if you think its hurting the image, then thats practically you understanding it wrong and creating unnecessary fanwars. you can still support your idols by voting, doing fanart, discussing their music. BOYCOTT here means TO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY.
Its hurting even the economy of korea actually, and ofcourse these idols under hybe would get less promotion,.
True but if you don't give the company money then the company would think that the group is not successful enough then they would stop their funding, promotions, comeback etc and the group might be disbanded🥲 it's a kinda lose lose situation for fans
Exactly...not about trying to hurt an idol... but effecting their wallet is really the only way to get any points/demands/concerns across... These corporations need to be reminded without fans there's nada
Sad to hear about Hyein, she's my bias 😭
Hybe is such a disappointment lol. Firstly NewJeans and now Seventeen… whenever they get blamed for something, they just hide behind BTS’s name
huh ??
And Armies are supporting them relentlessly saying that since BTS loves BHS, he must be good. What the hell is the logic? Even BTS might be in a hard situation. Who knows
@@mansininixo1441 that’s what’s pissing me off as an Army, have they forgotten the unequal treatment when it came to individual member promo. To think that they, including me know how the guys are or who the guys like is just pure delulu. BTS don’t need Hybe, Hybe needs BTS so their bargaining power is greater than other artists and still you can see the sheer mistreatment between members.
@@mansininixo1441 nahh many armys are realising that bang pd aint a good one (many realised it the time he signed up that ten years cotract with that scooter) but yeah there are some dumb ppl who still believe that bang pd in innocent
Bts have stated themselves that they each prompt their individual activities the way they want. That’s why they all look different. Bts MADE Hybe. We know Bts doesn’t need them but they invested too much time and money for some ceos and kpop group stans to come and tell them to just leave or ruin their hard work/image. They are actually share holders unlike the rest of this groups. At the end of the day they adults and we are just fans. They make their own decisions for themselves and we trust them. As for bang and scooter that is none of own business. You all want Bts and armys to fix everything but get upset when they get involved.
Winters dad ended that Hybe WHALE CEO.
This year is definitely not for hybe. Just look at the controversies, accusations and the problems hybe is now dealing.
•Sakura's worst vocals at encore.
• Le Sserraffim again and again worst vocals at encores.
•Le Sserraffim's controversial Coachella
•Le sserraffim disrespecting Christians in easy.
•le sserraffim's accusations of plagiarizim of tyla's water and other songs.
• Smart choreography inappropriate for Eunchae.
•Fans criticising illit being favored and being a privileged group.
• Illit worst vocals at encore.
• Fans accusing illit of copying new jeans.
• Illit payola.
• illit (r u next) votes being rigged.
•illit copying Lisa's fandom name.
• Mhj accusing illit of copying new Jeans.
•bang pd's idea to crush aespa, ive and many other ggs.
•bang pd doing everything to make new jeans the next blackpink and bts.
• hybe is actually a cult.
~>disbandment of gfriend is bringen back and gfriend fans are furious for disbanding them for le Serraffim.
•katseye is facing backlash for copying Ikon's name for their fandom (Eyekon)
• fromis_9 complaining about their mistreatment.
• Hybe spreading a rumor saying that mhj told "bang pd copying mhj and creating bts".
• Armys, bunnies, carats and many other fandoms are angry about high prices of merchandise and tickets and are boycotting hybe.
• armys are angry about bts youth (not on the drama but on bang pd) because fans have to pay separate for each episode.
• Fans boycotting scooter brauns.
This is all I can remember😅, this year hybe is getting so much hatred and backlash.
I wish nothing would happen to the artists and groups.
$150 is someone’s Electric bill. No, just no!
Right?! I'm good.
In my country, it's a rent for some room on apartment.
We still and forever will stands for our real NewJeans so very much!!! ✊️💪💓
the hate against le sserafim make me wanted to throw up , fans are so disgusting, the worst thing in kpop is not only the talent of the idol BUT THE FANS
Haters hating on Sakura for bad vocals and adviced her to practice
Also haters hating on her for practicing and practcing
Honestly they just want to hate atp, If she gets hated on by saying shes eating or shes sleeping imma start. laughing
They are bullying her
Boycott Hybe for ruining kpop lol
all hybe cares about is money, the company should be taking care of their idols not neglecting them. Hybe is just a huge mess at the moment.
The “crush Aespa” thing is just in line with the competitive nature of business. Burger King probably says it about McDonalds, Mac says it about HP, and Fenty says it about Clinique. I think it’s being overblown because of our attachments to the people behind the names in this case, but it’s business as usual in the music world.
Well, then why not just say "crush SM". Of course people think of the girls when they are singled out.
@@undefined601 I agree that they think of the girls, too. “Crush Aespa” is in the sense that you have two groups competing for the same market share. For example, Samsung might not say “crush Apple”. They might say “crush the iPhone” because they want that market share.
People are so hurt with that crush aespa while SM is being incompetent. Business is a world of competition.
I just find it funny that they want to “crush aespa” but proceeds to debut tone-deaf girl groups.
@@hanmashuji8800and im shocked bcz of low standards they chose aespa like seriously (maybe they are talking about debut aespa bcz they are biggest at that time ), sm himself media play so aespa bring relevant
More like what the hell is happening with Pledis ?
Pledis is under Hybe, they can’t do whatever they want
Also Hybe has 85% shares of Pledis, similar to Ador. The CEOs are only in name
Winter’s dad is amazing
Aww man get well hyein 😭
All the stories were linked to hybe .it's devastating how many groups this company is bringing down .Hybe's greed is the source of every problems
Maybe these are the consequences of HYBE expanding so fast. From the outside looking in, things seem to be crumbling brick by brick. But the issues they have is brought on by themselves. So desperate to make money, they lost themselves and what they were. I’m curious to see how things go in the coming months to years.
100%
You spoke like a million people. its just an issue with overexpansion, I can feel them crumbling even in my dreams
Fromis_9 is literally so damn mistreated by the company, i feel so bad. ALSO Le Sserafim obviously DID deserve the criticism but now its just HATE.
Its both Hybe and Netizens fault for the hate surrounding Le Sserafim
all this is so annoying like omg, i can’t imagine being a kpop idol and having to go through all this 💀💀
this needs to be a podcast i would so listen to this otw to work
Sakura's haters never actually watched her 48 group activities because anyone who has would know she is very talented. In her Coachella performance it is obvious she was trying to perform despite having throat issues due to over working her vocal cords during practice.
Winter's dad the RIGHT thing! To show shade towards Hybe!
Couldn’t agree more
I don't have much complains on Hybe acquiring pleads, as Seventeen seem happy with that. But the album prices, the amount of merch for this comeback are just ridiculous. By just looking at the kind of merch, you can totally tell that they're trying to drain money out of carats in the name of Seventeen. This will only harm Seventeen in the long run
But isn't everything expensive. Even grocery price are crazy.
Ohhh lawd!! Crush as in they are the competitors. You want to crush them and win. Not ruin their careers or their name. Why are they acting like teams don't compete other teams and wants to win??? They want to take home the trophy. Why is that sooo hard to understand???!!! They making it sound like it's a damn threat! smh. Trust me, other girl groups wants to crush their opponent too! Not just HYBE.
You don't need cry like that 😅
It’s because Hybe tried to buy Sment
Bro, treating your colleagues as competitors and treating them as a threat is different. What bang shi hyuk said in that msg was to treat aespa as a thorn in the bush and crush them, that's not competing that insulting.
@@anushkachakrabarty3952 How do you know what he said in that text?? She literally only shown a little bit of the message and not the whole convo. Who knows what was said for him to say that after. smh. It's not like he just said that out of the blue. It was probably a convo about debuting a girl group and wanting MHJ to create a girl group to crush aespa.
@@OmerLoveYasemin Who is crying. Y'all over reacting too much. Still bringing the same cut and paste of the message to complain about it? again and again?? please!
They really putting hate on Sakura like what they did with Garam…………
What a nuisance
7:07 There’s a misunderstanding about of SVT Deluxe ver. price 😮…
And it’s that it’s not that lowered the price because of the backlash 😮, it was because of an operational error 😪; since the price error was $156.90, and it was corrected costing now as $56.90 😮…
Winter’s dad is a real one for that😂💕
Hyein 🥺💕
SM has great plans for 2024. Still mad at them for what they did to Seunghan tho.
Winter’s dad is such a king. Id do the same if I was a father.
Fromis_9 deserve better. Literally every other HYBE and HYBE adjacent group recieve better treatment than F9. I hope HYBE treats them well in the future.
Sakura practicing is a good thing. I just dislike Le SSERAFIM’s management and how rushing them to fame brought upon them unintended consequences. It’s not like the girls can’t improve, they can, but hating on them for doing so or not is just wrong.
Not only Hyein but NJ as a whole. After the Min Hee Jin vs HYBE & Ban Si Hyuk drama I can only wish both NJ and ILLIT take a break and rest.
Welp. I wonder what in the everliving FU- are HYBE and Pledis doing? First they mistreat F9, now they fail to properly promote SVT? What the hell is going over there man?
It’s pledis ent responsibility to give Fromis_9 activities. Not hybe.
Pledis has always been shitty at treating their girl groups. If they don't want to come up wuth concepts for their comeback then hybe can't force pledis. Also the only reason seventeen is doing well is because they write their own songs and also sometimes choreography without pledis help and that's why they get to have frequent comebacks
@@Reilikesateez and it’s HYBEs responsibility to give every artist a chance doesn’t matter about the sub labels EVERYONE needs to be treated fairly!! Stop making excuses it’s embarrassing and annoying!
@@Nahazii I’m not defending hybe. Life was better before hybe existed. But the only thing hybe does is give them money. Google is free if you didn’t know
@@ReilikesateezIf BAD things happen blame the sub label, if GOOD things happen praise the main label...
The fact that HYBE is "cursed" when it comes to girl groups... just look at, Glam, Gfriend, Le sserafim, Newjeans, Fromis_9, and Illit... All of them have received quite a lot of controversy
I just became a fan of Seventeen, I use to just listen casually to a few of their songs, and I love Maestro, it pisses me off how neglectful their company is this comeback and they have the audacity to try and sell merch when they can't even have their albums be sold in stores
@@user-gy8zq6vb3j I think the issue has been the unnecessary amount of merch and album prices. I think another user wrote well about other ways of supporting the artists, by voting for awards, supporting their image and popularity, but not buy the merch.
I agree that Sakura needs to work on her vocals cause she is an idol, but to hate on her for practicing!? That's what people are telling her to do, and she does it! So why are people hating!
Haters who is hiding behind "constructive criticism", that's who they are, they will not stop until Sakura is broken, let's hope for the best for Sakura, she must survive this barbaric time...
I really feel so bad NewJeans and Illit. They DO NOT deserve to go through this as such young girls.
pledis has always been bad at giel groups just look at after school and pristin. this is a pattern unfortunately where they won't manage the girls properly. pledis isn't good at managing any geoup honestly but the girl groups have it worse
I’m proud over Kkura for practicing! She listens to what people says. She nwjns ILL’IT and all members in Le SSERAFIM deserve better
Hybe is a hot mess
Fun fact about SM’s new girl group
One of the members is a former SM trainee that was set to debut in the group, but she left SM and is now debuted in TripleS under Modhaus😁
Whatever is going on with hybe i just hope that the groups under them don't suffer because of it... Whoever it is ...
i will crush them all for you my babygirl is the most fatherly thing ever i’m happy winter has such a strong support system.
fromis_9 treatment devastates me like i’m so upset, people talk about newjeans mistreatment (which is not something i want to take away from) but what about fromis_9? literally forgotten and neglected not only by the parent company but also their own label.
wow, sakura literally can’t say or do anything at this point.
despite comparing the fromis_9 situation to that of newjeans and feeling like fromis_9 is arguably in a worse situation i still feel bad for newjeans especially after all the success they received from the start it might feel like everything is crashing down on them and they’re all so young to be dealing with all of this.
idk anything about this particular svt situation because i have been distant lately but i have my own set of problems with svt (management and promotion nothing against the boys)
well… i wish pledis can also pull away from hybe somehow since most of the artists i follow are from pledis (fromis_9, svt and hwang minhyun)
This is one of on,y 3 channels on here that I follow nd trust to give me Kpop news. You are sing a good job, keep it up! 👍
I am a huge sakura fan way back when she posted gaming videos here on youtube.... but i have to say she earned all the criticisms and its really good to hear her say she doing something about it! thats the old sakura I know never giving up.
It actually might be a mild blessing that Fromis_9 hasn't recently been promoting. I believe Pledis is now owned by HYBE, right? Meaning, they at least get to steer clear of the current drama going on at the company. Meanwhile, their lack of investment and inclusion with the other parts of the company, including not being invited to the company party, further highlights HYBE's hyper-focus on the shiniest and brightest.
Hybe owns 85% of Pledis...
Worst thing Big Hit entertainment has ever done is merge with Hybe 🙄
Big Hit IS HYBE.
@@riffgroove Yeah but they still have Big Hit music as an independent label within Hybe. Hybe has a bunch of different labels working for the company. It would have been better if Big Hit just stayed as they were instead of rebranding
@@Sisima13 Big Hit didn't "merge" with HYBE.
Big Hit CREATED HYBE.
Don't get me wrong, i love love love Aespa and i am gonna stream their comeback like crazy, but I really think people are exaggerating the impact hybe saying they want to "crush" Aespa might have had on their mental health. We all know kpop is a business and there is ton of competition and idols all know damn well that if they are successful, people will want to go above and beyond to "beat" them and become even more successful that them. It's just the way things are. I feel like Aespa are confident strong women and they know way better than be upset because of that quote. I'm pretty sure they all laughed about it, like "crush us? lol look at us now" and good for them!
I do hope it doesn't affect the members, and only they know how it feels when the CEO of the biggest k-pop company wants to "crush" you. He could have just said "crush SM" if we're talking business.
@@undefined601crushing aespa is definitely a laughing stock to MYs because MYs knows how good their faves are 🤣
Wow even CUBE isn’t that messy.
0:20 My neighbors are banging on my door how loud I screamed
Get well soon hyein 😢💜
Hyein my girl 😢❤
Yes, Hyein is my like the daughter I always wanted.😊 ❤ New Jeans!
@@lynnj85 bro that crazy you think hyein knows you when she dont
@@lynnj85 thats weird wtf ew 😭
@@lynnj85 As a bunny, 💀
NJ must be in stressed about all the things going on adorable and hybe should think about artistand they need some rest from all of the messy things which happening lately I hope they took some rest before releasing anything and I don't get it why you all r hating sakura everyone make mistake she is also human and she is trying to improve her vocals so leave her alone she don't deserve it im feeling so bad for her
The hate train for lsf is so forced like be for real what was sakura supposed to do lie just get a life netz idk what yall want at this point and why are people bycotting idols its hybe fault why do they(the idols) get to go through this
Bro I'm done with hybe and pledis...fromis_9 situation is just so sad...I want them to have more cmbacks and songs 😭❤
Literally all their grps are suffering...not them dragging svt down tho...💀
NaPd is promoting them more than hybe 😂❤
Worst thing about kpop is the fans 😂😂 y’all find anything to complain about
anyways all eyes on Palestine, Congo, Sudan, Tigray and all victims of colonialism! boycott celebrities who stay silent and yes even your faves
Guys, some labels sign groups and artists just to FREEZE them later and not have them compete with their main artists, i think this is what is happening to SEVENTEEN!!! HYBE just wanted them out of the way!! this infuriates me so much
THANK YOU!!! I’m so happy someone mentioned how HYBE/Pledis just continuously release USELESS MERCH! I miss when Seventeen took part in the creation of merch. Thats why the collection designed by the members are so special and somewhat nostalgic. As a long time Carat, I definitely had mixed feelings about HYBE’s acquisition of Pledis. Since the day our Carat-bong turned into a cheap fly, I’ve become HYBE’s biggest hater. Lol 😹But seriously, since Pledis joined HYBE, Seventeen just hasn’t been the same, like the members are still lovable talented goofballs, but the overall vibe is different. Idk, something about K-pop and specifically HYBE (like the way they do promote/business) lacks authenticity. The hate for HYBE only grows stronger with the recent controversy. Like, why are you threatened by the success of other groups? Was Aespa’s success, a girl group from the company (I’m also SM’s biggest hater, lol) who created one of the most successful and influential, some may even say legendary, girl groups in K-pop, really a surprise? It was an inkling in 2020, (swear I read an article back then where Bang PD literally said it) but with the recent revelations, am 100% convinced that the acquisition of Pledis was to claim SEVENTEEN’s success and eliminate competition. Btw, this is all my personal opinion so take it with a grain of salt. 😊 Anyways, why does Pledis (naturally as a Carat, I’m their biggest hater😌) have another girl group? Did they learn nothing from the past? 🤨 Justice for fromis_9!!!
I hope hyein gets better soon!
150$ for an album is psychotic
MY ULTIMATE BIAS PARK CHANYEOL IS GETTING HIS SOLO DEBUT????!!!!!! I WAITED SOOOOO LONG FOR THIS!!!!
IM ON CLOUD 9 RIGHT NOW
Im so out of the loop tbh lol i didnt know aby of this was going on.. tbh i listen to more of male kpop groups than females but i wish everyone the best and i hope the girl groups can take a stand and comeback stronger then ever and show the haters whats up ❤❤❤
So much hate going on...
THIS IS AN ATTACK ON HYBE GROUPS.
Someone (someone powerful who has money) is going after hybe. They are instigating verbal abuse and vicious attacks... maybe even whispered in MHJ ear to get her to think about leaving hybe and taking NJ.
Why? I can't quite put my finger on it.
I think it might have something to do with Hybe signing a deal with UMG. This is hybe crossing over into big money and big leagues of power. I have a feeling Chaebol families do not like it. South Korea is their turf and in their control, they say who can climb/rise and who can't. And no one should be daring to rise above them.
Hybe wanting money?... of course they do doughnuts 🙄
The more money hybe have, the more they can pay & invest in the idols & staff who kill themselves everyday doing their best. Do you really think it's just idols that work there?
Do any of you know anything about business or economics or security at all?
When BTS started working officially as idols, they couldn't pay them for 2 years, because they couldn't - 2 f-ing years! Seriously, who wants to work for free? Thats slavery! But they had no choice.
Now they can pay their idols straight away.... provide comfortable dorms, safe, secure work environment, etc.... do you think hybe gets that for free?
They also need money so they can have capital to invest in other sectors..... why? So everything is not reliant on idols bringing in money.... it provides more security to the staff that work there.... i.e.... if another covid type situation hit.... they can still pay staff coz idols working is not the only thing that brings in money.
Don't you want idols to have more rest days??? Well guess what... that cost money too. Money = security. Who wants to live pay check to pay check? Clearly ya'll never been poor to be saying shit like "hybe just wants money". 🙄
These bullies are gonna end up running Sakura out of the industry. I wouldn’t be surprised if she left the group. I’m honestly expecting it
I am not surprised that the whole group will be disband 😅😅
@@Hahahaha10188Don't wish that! Thats a terrible thing to say
You wish for her to leave the group? Why? She is like a sister to them!
@@KamenRider808 i never wish anything but I did say don’t be surprised they disbanded after so many hates has been trending online
newjeans & illit literally just stepped into the industry at such a young age and already facing this all T_T
I'm not seeing any good things about hybe recently..
I hope that HYEIN gets better and hope that Danielle will continue to be our biggest sunshine☀️ !
5 million albums yet a lot of them ended up on the streets in the trash, fans need to be limited to one album so we see the real sale numbers of kpop groups instead of fans over purchasing to inflate the sales numbers so they can have bragging rights about their favs and it isn’t organic and kind of cheating, same needs to happen with streaming, don’t allow non-organic repeats of songs so people can inflate the numbers, let’s see the real organic numbers of streams and album sales of kpop groups
Hybe organic 😂😂😂 never
@@riakristy659as if your favs views and sales are pure organic weirdo
I don't think the seventeen album over-buying case was to increase album sales. It was solo stans buying multiple albums so that they can get their fave's photocard in atleast one of them and then throw the album away by keeping the photocard
Sure that can start with the group that you stan then we talk later.
@@riakristy659Big 3 organic never😂😂😂
KPOP fans seem to love nasty rumors, true or not. That's all there is here. Hate mongering garbage.
SAKURAAAA!! WE LOVE YOU!! 💙 NO MATTER WHAT PPL SAY 😂😎
Can someone pinpoint exactly what Hybe did or does for them to get so much hate?
I think that it’s weird how everyone under hybe has their songs on Rhythm Hive but Fromis_9. They are apart of hybe as well. They are being treated so badly.
Please leave Sakura let her practice 😭