@user-qh8vy5tu1y don't pretend like k-pop is all about talent and not looks. Cough... Heechul(sj), Minho(shinee) cough... Jin(bts), cough cough... Dasom(sistar), Hyeri(girls day), Sakura, Eunche(le ssera), Yeri(rv), Seolhyun(aoa)...💀💀💀
It's not just the connections that helps them but the money their rich parents can spend on dancing classes, singing classes and musical instrument classes that are so very expensive and also time consuming that a normal person could not have time for if they had to work or study hard to support themselves and their families. It's not just about what you know but who you know.
They will also gonna get princess and prince treatment because of their connection and if someone more talented want to take the stage then they will get in trouble just like what happened to the first group in the video .
@@listorin6314typically nepo babies are favoured over regular ppl with natural talents that didn't require lessons and crap so yeah ppl do have the right to dislike them and I'm not saying all nepo babies are bad ppl but a large majority are very snobby... And no one likes snobby ppl
If the so called nepo babies have the talent and will to succeed then they should be given a chance, nothing can stop them. You've got to have more than your famous connections to make it in the industry and be a star
I came to say the same thing. I think their is a negative connotation with the term "nepo baby" but if someone has talent and a drive to succeed why should we criticize their connections. I think the only time I've dealt with true nepo babies is when they are hired and they get away with being lousy at their job just because of their connections, that to me a true "nepo baby."
@@davidmun1601 like literally no one said they're "untalented" but are they the most talented that's up to debate, they're privileged which is nepotism is that fair to working class idols ? There's no correct answer but me personally I'd rather stan someone who doesn't have connections because I connect to them more that way
@@Hipaestus So my comment has to do with the use of the term "nepo baby". It does come from the word nepotism, so anytime any connection was used, then the term fits. Now the issues with talent would be something else
it's not the problem they're rich, the problem is that they're easily taking someone's place, someone who can be ten times more talented, more interesting more unique than them yet they're aren't lucky enough to have any excess to the industry because they don't have connections
Be real. Those super talented people were never going to be given a chance anyways. Nepo babies are ruling the industry because nobody is going to pay to watch a mediocre no-name artist..they have to be super super talented to make it into a public eye. But a mediocre nepo-baby will still attract audience either because of their name, or because people want to shit on them for sucking.
It is only a problem if they are a lazy P.O.S. who doesn't take the job seriously. If they are talented like Sunny and work hard to take full advantage of their talent then it is okay. The more talented person you mentioned will still be able to debut if they don't wuss out and quit over losing that specific chance.
I’m fine with it as long as they are talented. Using connections is pretty standard in the business world but if you don’t have any talent such as singing, dancing or stage presence you are going to have a tough time. Especially in the K-pop industry where you can become scrutinized for anything.
U are missing the point. There is waaay more talented people than these nepo babies, so many girls that wont get a chance bcs they dont have the name or the money. Thats the whole poing of why nepotism is wrong. like aespas Giselle taking a spot in aespa cuz her family owns a media company in japan
@@mariasol1545as if becoming an idol/celebrity in general is easy. Those who have talent will not get overlooked for someone with a name and no talent. I’m sorry but it’s the truth. KPOP values performance over anything. I can’t think of one person in KPOP right now who isn’t talented or deserving of their position. Yes it’s sad but it’s life. And with the internet there are SO many ways to build a following and promote yourself without the use of a company. If you’re getting passed up by companies over nepotism create your own lane if you’re truly so talented you will get noticed. And if you truly feel nepotism in KPOP is rampant and a problem don’t support the groups you deem unworthy/untalented.
this is why i say rich people are never unhappy, if they go through trauma they can pay for therapy and meds, if they want shoes they get them etc etc..
@@1co293Its the reason many are always unhappy, they are constantly balancing between believing they should have everything because no one naver say "no" to them, and believing theyre not really good at anything, because everything they have was bought and not conquered. So many rich kids are looking for validation in the entertainment industry because they want people to appreciate them and not their parents money. Its not only pop music, lots of bands have rich kids as members, because they have the time and money to do so.
The problem with this nepo babies wich people couldn't understand is it's not only about them being talentless some times we can see they are talented but there are so many talented people out there but they don't get to debut or recognition from public cos they are too poor to promote them self just like kendal jenner in model industry
Anton is talented. Very talented. Jin of BTS have gone through the hardship just like the other 6 members. I know that he asked his father once if his father can give them money to buy food. Jin said that was the only time he asked his father for help. As for Bahyihyi, she didn't get help from Kai. Kai told her that he won't help her. She has to show people her talent. She just asked him for advice after that. He gave her advice on how to look at the camera when she dances and sing.
She didn't get to change the name because company wanted to use the fans of his brother . That's why even after Bahyihyi she still use that name . That's nepotism brother and if it's not for her brother no body would have known her . Certainly not me I only know her because of her brother .
@@Shucasmit's just like that. It seems like neither her or Kai wanted or planned this but it still happened. It's delulu to deny how one of the most active fandoms promoting her with giveaways during Girls Planet were MOAs. Sadly, this brought a lot of hate to this poor girl during and after the show.
People saying "its ok to be a nepo baby if you are talented" are kind of missing the point. There is plenty of talented, and maybe waaay more talented people than these nepo babies, that wont get a chance bcs they dont have the name or the money. Thats the whole poing of why nepotism is wrong. I cant believe people are excusing it just bcs those are their favs lol
But it's not their fault that they have an advantage. Why would they let the oppotunity go if they also worked hard for it and are talented. It's like saying a millionaire should give up his earned money bcuz someone worked harder than him. It's life, its easier for some people than others
@@KdramaTeen2705nobody said it’s their fault though. And not every nepo baby works hard and is talented. Some of them are only where they are because of their money or because they have rich and powerful parents.
In India we middle class people are told by our parents that unless you are a rich person your children cannot imagine of doing something in the entertainment industry that made me realize that It is very true .. money can really make any dream of yours ... that's why my father never admitted me in a dance class though I am very talented in it ..
@_baskie.008 That’s terrible! It’s in a company’s best interest to find the most talented people available. If I wanted to be an actor or dancer in India I would need to have rich parents?! That to me would be soul crushing! Forgive me, but I believe that your father sold you short. If a child really wants to do something special with his or her life, and shows an aptitude for it, a parent should do the best they can to help.
I used to work in a hospital where most of the young adults that worked in my department were referred by their family members (they were hospital jobs but not medical in nature..i.e a secretary or patient transport).The few times someone was legitimately hired other employees were actually shocked. It's in every industry unfortunately.
@@XVa-uj8mindia doesn't have agencies but film schools kind of work in same way. Most of the people in filmschools have already connections in industry or people who are trying to get connections to establish themselves while learning something. Its a win win
Idgaf Anton is really talented and deserves to be in RIIZE. He is gifted in a lot of ways. He's a witty guy and he is hella savage! The perfect combination.
How can some individuals be accused of "buying success" when their family already owns it? Purchasing success isn't synonymous with nepotism; I have the ability to buy things if I choose to.
I mean if they're really talented, it doesn't really matter all that much. After all the industry is filled with "visuals" who can't sing or dance, nepotism is not the biggest issue in the industry
if these "nepo babies" are genuinely talented, they shouldn't be shunned just because their families are rich - sometimes they are so much more than just their connections.
Let's be honest, we ALL would use convections if we had them. If you say you would not then you are as fake as some idols image. Some of this so call Nepo babies are talented and put the effort to get where they are. Don't hate them just because they have money or connection.
Literally! Some people always act like being born rich is bad while being poor is a flex. Like, no. Being rich gives you more opportunities and its okay to use them
Even if Jin comes from a rich family, he didn't use that to get into the group. It was a manager, he saw Jin at the bus stop and was amazed by his visual and asked him if he was interested in becoming an idol. He didn't knew dancing or singing, he has worked very very hard to become an idol and I am so proud of him 💜 Love you Jin 💜
@@girlinluv426 are you high or what, when did I made the fandom look like bully, I am just writing Jin's backstory. What's your problem ? use your brain before writing a comment
Correction for Giselle part, she indeed went thru Saturday audition but it took her 4 times to get thru it. In fact she didn’t pass with Mark’s rap, it was CL’s Lifted. It might be true she could be from wealthy family, but her success is not from her wealth cable, she can be considered as self made 😊
Nepotism is a tough one to tackle because there will be some that legitimately have the talent and work ethic but there will be just as many if not more that get there solely based on money and connections. Especially now that, let's be real, there are a lot of "singers" that can't sing well because music production is such that a good producer and engineer can make anyone sound amazing, not to mention if you're rish and well connected, you'll have access to the best teachers, best producers, best equipment and even going into how looks are considered so important for idols, nepo babies can afford surgeries, cosmetics, designer clothes and styling, etc so they just immediately come in with such a huge advantage over the others that it's easy to see how it's problematic when combined with the requirements expected of idols. It's tough, there's no clear answer because you can't say that nonone from anrich background can be an idol and only a few are noticeably not as good as the others where you could claim they clearly only made it because of something besides their talent. And on the flip side, just objectively having a nepo baby in a group makes sense because connections are everything. If a group has great singers and dancers and then a less talented nepo baby that has direct ties to famous or powerful people in the industry, their presence is technically gonna be more instrumental to the success of the group than anyone else there whether it's fair or not so is it right to say they shouldn't be there when other positions that have nothing to do with musical talent are expected? Like visuals, someone being hot should have nothing to do with music but it's as important if not more important. Age? Race? The nepo baby problem is a symptom of what sells in Kpop IMO.
The big reason why nepotism is considered a bad thing is when its apparent said person doesn't have the skills or background to get where they are. a general example Chelsea client walking in to a 600k job in the Clinton foundation. Even with her experience the senior rule she got while exceeded the her education and experience. Where someone like Kim Chae won provide time and time again to be a part of the industry even though her mother is an actress in Korea. Yes, it helps being from a rich family so you don't have the same struggles but doesn't mean you are going to succeeded in the industry.
Same. I don’t get how people can idolise rich idols like “my queen/king came from a rich family and is now a rich idol and will keep getting richer even if they slack, haters can stay poor ololol” 🤔 what’s so inspiring about an idol that slaps you with the message “life is unfair”. What’s there to idolise about a person who is a walking embodiment of “life is unfair”.
But anton genuinely works hard and honestly it doesn't even shadow his group members so I don't think his 'nepotism' overshadows others and his hard work.
@@Ranasirisha if I were SM I’d push them, too. 😂 Seriously, I think Wonbin deserves every second he gets. He’s really good. And Sohee gets pushed quite a bit as well. Shotaro and Sungchan being seniors also makes sense. I like Anton a lot, and from what I’ve noticed with SM I believe that the company is going to gradually bring him to the front.
Connections help a ton for sure, but you can't succeed in this industry without talent. Admittedly, their parents being rich also help with that as it gives them access to a lot more expensive types of training.
I don't care if an idol is a nepo baby or comes from a wealthy family so long as they prove themselves. Most of us are able to tell who actually puts in the work
Bro yes?? I'm confused as to why 59+ people couldn't fathom this sentence. It simply means that, while not being the sole reason or most influential reason, it still contributed to the result. An example: 72% is talent and skills, 28% is connections. Connections were an influence, but they wouldn't do anything if a person didn't have talent and skills.
Except SNSD Sunny was a real deal back in the day. All around good performer, singer, dancer, great energy, personality, talent in hosting and being a radio DJ. She revolutionized and popularized "Aegyo" in the more recent times and was the standard on how female Kpop idols should perform in Variety shows. She made a mark in the industry. It just so happened that she is a relative of the CEOs and such but it doesn't really have anything to do with her being popular. Sunny worked hard and earned it.
Yes, she is my favorite in snsd since they debuted but she is a nepo baby. We can't ignore that people who have connections have it easier than those without, but it doesn't mean a nepo baby can't be talented and deserving, too! Sunny is an example of one of the people who had connections but also the talent to back it up!
I still remember someone saying, "there's no problem using connections, in the end your work is the one that prove it, but if you failed you're trash."
Slightly off topic but I feel so disgusted by people saying Anton should "Do his own thing" when he has been doing projects and perform with his dad.. So idols aren't allowed to have a good time with their parents anymore? Who the heck are you to tell him he "should do his own projects"?
It doesn't matter it's been like this since forever and times are changing, anybody nowadays can become a kpop idol Black, white, orange, reds it doesn't matter anymore This channel has lost its purpose that it's now trying to make up story but the worse channel is "BTSforever2013" you and them are too problematic
I don't like nepotism. Anyway they use there parents power. Not in industry but it was getting normal in common communitys if your parents are rich and have connections so you are definitely going to get what you want. No matter how much a person who came from poor family did hard work there always a nepo who take the opportunity 😢. And them those nepo baby say we also did hardwork i don't give a shit to there hardwork 😭
The amount of fans who are not only ok but trying to argue with people who have a genuine problem with nepotism in kpop is pathetic. Yall are pathetic. Yes if they are talented yay but there are many more people that have talent that have opportunities ripped away because people with rich parents and connections come first. Class issues are a problem, nepotism is a problem, you SHOULD care about that even if your fave is. Honestly I’m shocked people want to act like this is a ok or neutral thing. Pathetic. Like the amount of people saying “as long as they can sing good idc if they used connections!” Do y’all hear yourself 😭 You don’t have to hate these idols but man that is not a good thing and does say something to their talent if they could not have gotten in without those connections.
Umji was added to Gfriend so that her family can give the group foods and rent sometimes. That is why SinB hated her so bad before in their trainee days because she was able to debut in just a short time while sinb gave everything so that she can debut.
I think people call them nepotism because it’s easy for them to live and train with financial support. But at the end of the day they still go and train and have to improve their skills like everyone else
Nepotism in kpop is nothing when compared to other places where the people genuinely lack talent. Here in kpop its definitely hard to survive without actual talent.
I’m ngl these days as long as you have connections, have a marketable image and a bit of talent you can become a kpop idol. Members in groups nowadays can sing and dance but I just think the quality individually isn’t that great(for SOME idols). It feels like, if you work visually than the company will work on you’re dancing and singing after, rather than the other way around.
I feel bad for ppl getting called nepo babies especially when they are good at what they do cuz it just leads to so much hate and like they are being pushed down like it’s not their fault like it’s not our fault we’re nit rich
Who cares about Nepo baby? For as long as they're talented, they can join the industry. Besides, debuting doesn't mean they already succeed. They need hardwork to reach success. Anton is such a talented kid. I fell in love with his voice without knowing his background. He may be a Nepo baby, but I'm just so glad that he managed to debut and share his talent to the world. Jin may came from a rich family, but that doesn't excused him from the harsh reality of a trainee. If you're an army, you would know how hard it was for them when they were trainee and even after debut, BTS still struggled. Success wasn't handed to them freely, they worked hard for it, including Jin. Some people may say it's unfair for those who worked hard just to debut or be part of a certain group, just because Nepo baby has money and connection doesn't mean they will succeed in this industry without trying too hard, after all, talent plays a big role. And it's not like they chose to be born rich. Those names who were mentioned are all talented except that one trainee who hasn't debut yet (I don't know her skills).
I mean to be fair A lot of people get into businesses through connections So, even if they get through because of their rich family I don't see an issue with it
Nowadays kpop industry is more like fashion industry, if u have connection and rich enough u can actually take the chance of debut from someone who is more talented but comes from a poor family , this is sad, but this is the truth of world i mean they have money and power and connection in this industry and u guys think they not gonna use it? 😃Their life is easy from the beginning to the end what can i say good for them .
bahiyyih is definitely a nepo baby. the reason why i tuned in to gp999 and a lot of moas too is because kai’s sister was in it edit: not a nepo baby but came from nepotism
@@sophiandablay9829it def does. All the influence of kai pushed bahi above more deserving ones. You dont need to white kight too much. See it for what it is
If you ask people "you know kep1er?" majority will say oh yeah Kai's sister, fans desperately wants to deny it but she literally gets no screentime, no lines, but majority knows kep1er bc they have "Kai's sister" in it@@cherryheartcabezas6293
Sunny must be the sweetest Nepo baby she was talented and she served the group especially through varieties and she could sing and all her members adore her
Giving the person with an active, popular, big-four idol as a brother whose debut was entirely decided by K-Pop fans VOTING on a K-Pop survival show a pass but then calling Anton a nepo baby is a WILD take. Most idol fans aren't going to know who Yoon Sang is. Methinks there's some bias happening here.
I think it's fine to use your connections to your advantage because if you have opportunities of course you would take them, as long as they are talented their is no problem with being priviliged
It has never been confirmed that is Giselle's aunt, also even if she was there's no proof LSM would pick Giselle based on solely dating her aunt. Also if Giselle was picked based on nepotism why is she by far the worst treated out of the four aespa members?
Not to be rude but why would they wanna go to a small company like even if they are talented and end up debuting under the small company the chance that they will get the recognition they deserve is pretty small, like there are dozens of kpop groups that debut every year but only some get popular, even groups like mamamoo don’t get the recognition they deserve and they are literally all aces also they hav been idols for almost 10 years, I mean if you are talented then it’s better to go under a big company so you have a higher chance of getting recognition and success, I mean look at baemon they are all very talented and under yg entertainment, honestly expected it though cause yg has the most allrounders out of hybe, jyp, yg, and sm. Honestly I think the only company where the nepo baby thing is huge is at hybe I mean a majority of hybe idols get in because they can dance or they were popular before debut, also I’m not trying to discredit hybe idols cause most of the idols there are like dance machines but yk that’s not enough.
Not everyone can be a Sunny, she can sing, dance and is the Queen of Aegyo. Everyone has an opportunity even Nepo Babies, Kpop fans will sort them out regardless. Great Video! ❤
There is a difference between being a talentless person who succeeds only because of favour from someone who holds power and influence in your industry, and then being someone from a privileged background who had more time, energy and resources to put towards developing their craft and career, and then was lucky enough to succeed. The most important thing is to acknowledge the blessings and opportunities you had, instead of claiming to be “self-made.” Very few people, even people who came from property, are 100% self made. The majority of people had SOMEONE supporting them in some way.
The girls in the Black Label haven't even debuted so we have no clue what talent the may or may not have. And if they have the money to pay for what they need to male it then so be it.... the idols that don't have the path carved out by their parents will always prove themselves no matter the case. But nepotism babies I have seen have to work harder and if they can't get where they need then they will fall out. SUNNY IS ACTUALLY TALENTED!!! After Jessica left we seen alot more of Sunnys vocals and talent.
Nepo babies might have talent but i bet there are lots of others who are way more talented but are overshadowed simply because nepo babies have connections. Here the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I would much rather support someone who has come up with their own struggles and hardwork. From what i see, lately nepo babies have suddenly been keen on joining the kpop industry. For what reason idk (my guess is travelling, fame and being idolised and glorified by fans.) Pretty sure if kpop hadn't been a booming business since the last few years, none of them would've even thought about it. That being said, even the kind of music nowadays is boring. They're all trying to be westernised. I liked kpop till gen 3 but now everything just seems shallow. Like its not about music anymore; just money and its not my cup of tea
Respectfully, I do think Bahiyyih could fall under the nepotism umbrella. Huening Kai doesn't have any managerial power, but he has a lot of social capital. Normally that wouldn't be a big deal, but her group was formed in a competition reality series where social capital is everything. The people who get noticed (for whatever reason - talent, looks, charisma) are the people who win, and she came to the series with her brother's social influence. Would she have been featured/notied nearly as much if she were not related to her brother?
If you dont use ANY connections, you will NEVER make it anywhere in life. Hence why we are asked for references. BUT if you ONLY use connections then yeah it's an issue
My opinions is are doesn’t matters families have really rich and average backgrounds in their leverage, people starting choirs practice with who can selected from, different ways with R/B, Hip-hop Rap, Music, makes best in fields learning creativity group for others as well too
With Kpop being more popular than ever now, it's not going to be cheap to get into it. So, people with good connections and have money are more likely to be successful. It's only natural. However, if you suck you're still not going to make it far lol people in the industry still have to train no matter how much money you make and go through the same struggles working day after day to be the best they can be.
if using connection can make you on top then live show won't matter , just like the recent show universe ticket , just because you're a former idol doesn't mean your good chances are 50/50 in the eyes of public vs stan
@@bjcanz and it still doesn't fit the nepotism definition because it's all about YOUR previous work, YOUR OWN fame that YOU worked for, unlike idols who use the fame of someone else like bahikhia
@@notpregnant you never know, what if being famous before could get you easy to any events , and yet your performance is on that level with days of training , no matter what song you select if your good your good , if flop your flop, no wonder the judges is so disappointed, they expected higher from a former idol, politics in showbiz
@@bjcanz i doubt the diarrhea members or major member statut get you that much privilege . this is not being famous, this is just having experience, now if they had more than 15 stans and were an idol from a mid tier group it would be another issue but failed idols aren't really a threath in ''fairness'' into competitions, unless it's like an even nuguer show. agree that high focus on them is annoying tho.
Great video once again miss Kookielit. I think it sure helps a company, if one of the members has a ritch or famous backgroup. Ritch parents don't want there kids to fail and maybe pump money into the group, giving them better promotion or more comebacks. But if that is a good thing.......I'm not sure of it.
The Korean short movies have covered this topic so many times. Yes nepo babies seem to go significantly further because of nepotism 💀they give money to the company to promote them more
Nah that Vulture article was toxic af because it rebranded ‘nepotism’ from ‘rich and has connections’ as we knew it into ‘my aunt worked at the McDonald’s next to the film studio 35 years ago’ type of shit lmao
I think why some people push the issue of people getting in the industry because of their status is because I personally feel it doesn't give the regular People to get in, back in 3rd generation some idols that came from regular or poor families got in, but now alot of idols are nepo babies. Which isn't a bad thing if they have talent, but still. Just my opinion though
I think mostly its the companies... they should consider everyone based on thier talents not just backgrounds.. like if a trainee is training for more than half of their life and then there are nepos or rich kids who just jump in easily through connections and debut like in 1 or half a year. And also companies considering the rich families in first places...like no hate to any idol but we can clearly see in yg and black label there's literally not a single idol since the company got big who came frm a normal family.
sunny may not be the best dancer or singer in her group but her fun and happy personality shines alot. she seems to be in good terms with all the members (even with jessica and openly talks about her after she quit which is a no no in sm) and is brave enough to protect them (like taeyeon being kidnapped on stage). she works hard like the rest of them and treat them like her sisters. she's like that likable normal kid in school thats part of every school clique. you have no idea that she's a nepo baby until you discovered it
Not all of them are like that.... They have got talent too! I seriously wonder why these people are fighting over nonsense stuff these days... ive been into kpop for a lot of time, it seriously wasn't like that before... it was so peaceful.... i want to experience it again!! Many people now joined kpop, which starts fights & stuff.........
It would be interesting for companies to scout the heirs of rich companies. High risk though because most rich kids are not used to the discomforts associated with being an artist. But we’ll see
People act like benefiting from your family's connections, money or status is a bad thing. Being privileged is not a bad thing if you acknowledge it and are actually talented and hardworking. The issue comes from the spoiled, rich, talentless kids who think they are entitled to a music career just because they like kpop and their parents can afford their debut. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, lmao.
the problem is that nobody understands what a nepo baby is. if the person is talented and goes through the process just like everyone else, IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THEIR PARENTS ARE!!!
@@701filesno it doesn’t bro even if they got in because of their parents as long as they prove that they deserve the space in the group they shouldn’t get hated (no idol should rlly get hate though they should get criticized though) like I mean the amount of nepo babies in kpop is crazy but one thing a lot of them have in common is that they are talented people who deserve the space in the group and honestly deserve their recognition
Parental status can only open the doors for their children but to stay in the industry the children must put in their own work. Nepotism is only a problem if the Nepo Baby is lazy and tries to coast on their parents fame.
it is an awfully competitive industry and who wouldn’t use all their cards to get in? Getting in is one thing, but staying in the public’s favour is another, and that’s where you can see their talent and commitment
I know their r alot of artist who already have a successful career and live in this industry always ready to help their children in whatever they want in their life but there is no lie that the artist who always accused of nepotism are so talented and hardworking so it dies not matter where they belong to so I hope people stop this shit of nepotism
Nepo babies or not, I don't think it's fair to judge a person or a group based on their family background without actually seeing their skills & talents, plus it's not as if they have a say which family they'll be born into. 2nd gen has a lot of idols that came from rich families, SNSD's Sooyoung & Sunny and 2NE1's CL & Park Bom to name a few but no one can deny the fact that they EARNED their fame via their talent and hardwork. Also there are idols born with silver spoons that their idol career didn't really took off like ZE:A Park Hyung Sik & Block B's P.O (though they are both equally successful on their chosen line of work in the industry) but it goes to show that being born with silver spoon doesn't guarantee succes in the music scene.
Literally. For example Løren altho is a nepo baby made his entire discography himself, can sing and produce, worked with other YG artists YET he is a nugu.
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Kpop idols stopped singing live on stage. This is a problem worse than nepotism.
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Do you remember "Music Camp"? Time to bring it back.
@user-qh8vy5tu1y they stopped singing live because k-pop it's all about looks, not talent💀
@user-qh8vy5tu1y Don’t pretend like everyone sang live until the 3 gen💀
@user-qh8vy5tu1y don't pretend like k-pop is all about talent and not looks. Cough... Heechul(sj), Minho(shinee) cough... Jin(bts), cough cough... Dasom(sistar), Hyeri(girls day), Sakura, Eunche(le ssera), Yeri(rv), Seolhyun(aoa)...💀💀💀
It's not just the connections that helps them but the money their rich parents can spend on dancing classes, singing classes and musical instrument classes that are so very expensive and also time consuming that a normal person could not have time for if they had to work or study hard to support themselves and their families. It's not just about what you know but who you know.
They will also gonna get princess and prince treatment because of their connection and if someone more talented want to take the stage then they will get in trouble just like what happened to the first group in the video .
so what? we gonna blame every wealthy ppl for their riches? is it a crime to have more opportunities in any field?
@@listorin6314 yes
@@listorin6314typically nepo babies are favoured over regular ppl with natural talents that didn't require lessons and crap so yeah ppl do have the right to dislike them and I'm not saying all nepo babies are bad ppl but a large majority are very snobby... And no one likes snobby ppl
@@listorin6314it's not a crime it's just not fair
If the so called nepo babies have the talent and will to succeed then they should be given a chance, nothing can stop them. You've got to have more than your famous connections to make it in the industry and be a star
I came to say the same thing. I think their is a negative connotation with the term "nepo baby" but if someone has talent and a drive to succeed why should we criticize their connections. I think the only time I've dealt with true nepo babies is when they are hired and they get away with being lousy at their job just because of their connections, that to me a true "nepo baby."
You are right, but they are still nepo babies if they used their connections
@@davidmun1601 like literally no one said they're "untalented" but are they the most talented that's up to debate, they're privileged which is nepotism is that fair to working class idols ? There's no correct answer but me personally I'd rather stan someone who doesn't have connections because I connect to them more that way
@@Hipaestus So my comment has to do with the use of the term "nepo baby". It does come from the word nepotism, so anytime any connection was used, then the term fits. Now the issues with talent would be something else
Right, esp as not every rich kid is trying to be an idol, but the ones that are have it much better off than anyone else which is expected
it's not the problem they're rich, the problem is that they're easily taking someone's place, someone who can be ten times more talented, more interesting more unique than them yet they're aren't lucky enough to have any excess to the industry because they don't have connections
Exactly
Be real. Those super talented people were never going to be given a chance anyways. Nepo babies are ruling the industry because nobody is going to pay to watch a mediocre no-name artist..they have to be super super talented to make it into a public eye. But a mediocre nepo-baby will still attract audience either because of their name, or because people want to shit on them for sucking.
Sad reality @@Furrina89
It is only a problem if they are a lazy P.O.S. who doesn't take the job seriously. If they are talented like Sunny and work hard to take full advantage of their talent then it is okay. The more talented person you mentioned will still be able to debut if they don't wuss out and quit over losing that specific chance.
I’m fine with it as long as they are talented. Using connections is pretty standard in the business world but if you don’t have any talent such as singing, dancing or stage presence you are going to have a tough time. Especially in the K-pop industry where you can become scrutinized for anything.
U are missing the point.
There is waaay more talented people than these nepo babies, so many girls that wont get a chance bcs they dont have the name or the money. Thats the whole poing of why nepotism is wrong.
like aespas Giselle taking a spot in aespa cuz her family owns a media company in japan
@@mariasol1545as if becoming an idol/celebrity in general is easy. Those who have talent will not get overlooked for someone with a name and no talent. I’m sorry but it’s the truth. KPOP values performance over anything. I can’t think of one person in KPOP right now who isn’t talented or deserving of their position. Yes it’s sad but it’s life. And with the internet there are SO many ways to build a following and promote yourself without the use of a company. If you’re getting passed up by companies over nepotism create your own lane if you’re truly so talented you will get noticed. And if you truly feel nepotism in KPOP is rampant and a problem don’t support the groups you deem unworthy/untalented.
Imagine your family create a music company and a kpop group just because u want become a idol this is crazy ☠️
What's even crazier is that she fumbled it. I mean, you had ONE JOB.
Yeah
this is why i say rich people are never unhappy, if they go through trauma they can pay for therapy and meds, if they want shoes they get them etc etc..
Nah, that's not crazy at all... I mean, how many people simply get the job of their dream just because someone in their family is rich af?
@@1co293Its the reason many are always unhappy, they are constantly balancing between believing they should have everything because no one naver say "no" to them, and believing theyre not really good at anything, because everything they have was bought and not conquered.
So many rich kids are looking for validation in the entertainment industry because they want people to appreciate them and not their parents money. Its not only pop music, lots of bands have rich kids as members, because they have the time and money to do so.
The problem with this nepo babies wich people couldn't understand is it's not only about them being talentless some times we can see they are talented but there are so many talented people out there but they don't get to debut or recognition from public cos they are too poor to promote them self just like kendal jenner in model industry
Anton is talented. Very talented. Jin of BTS have gone through the hardship just like the other 6 members. I know that he asked his father once if his father can give them money to buy food. Jin said that was the only time he asked his father for help. As for Bahyihyi, she didn't get help from Kai. Kai told her that he won't help her. She has to show people her talent. She just asked him for advice after that. He gave her advice on how to look at the camera when she dances and sing.
Løren made his entire discography himself and also worked with Gdragon and BlackPink
She didn't get to change the name because company wanted to use the fans of his brother . That's why even after Bahyihyi she still use that name . That's nepotism brother and if it's not for her brother no body would have known her . Certainly not me I only know her because of her brother .
@@Shucasmit's just like that. It seems like neither her or Kai wanted or planned this but it still happened. It's delulu to deny how one of the most active fandoms promoting her with giveaways during Girls Planet were MOAs. Sadly, this brought a lot of hate to this poor girl during and after the show.
@@Shucasmis that not her real name? And how is that nepotism?
@@HeyguhhYou slow
People saying "its ok to be a nepo baby if you are talented" are kind of missing the point. There is plenty of talented, and maybe waaay more talented people than these nepo babies, that wont get a chance bcs they dont have the name or the money. Thats the whole poing of why nepotism is wrong.
I cant believe people are excusing it just bcs those are their favs lol
Ikr.. the comments are so disappointing istg
But it's not their fault that they have an advantage. Why would they let the oppotunity go if they also worked hard for it and are talented. It's like saying a millionaire should give up his earned money bcuz someone worked harder than him. It's life, its easier for some people than others
RIGHT. I agree
so? look how many nepo idols became legends in the kpop industry. atleast they have talent and made kpop bigger than it was
@@KdramaTeen2705nobody said it’s their fault though. And not every nepo baby works hard and is talented. Some of them are only where they are because of their money or because they have rich and powerful parents.
In India we middle class people are told by our parents that unless you are a rich person your children cannot imagine of doing something in the entertainment industry that made me realize that It is very true .. money can really make any dream of yours ... that's why my father never admitted me in a dance class though I am very talented in it ..
In India nepotism is in almost every sector. Be it Bollywood, jobs, business. Connections and money are everything.
@_baskie.008 That’s terrible! It’s in a company’s best interest to find the most talented people available. If I wanted to be an actor or dancer in India I would need to have rich parents?! That to me would be soul crushing! Forgive me, but I believe that your father sold you short. If a child really wants to do something special with his or her life, and shows an aptitude for it, a parent should do the best they can to help.
Do you speak Telugu, Hindi, Tamil? Also please tell me, does India have agencies like South Korea and trainee things or not?
I used to work in a hospital where most of the young adults that worked in my department were referred by their family members (they were hospital jobs but not medical in nature..i.e a secretary or patient transport).The few times someone was legitimately hired other employees were actually shocked. It's in every industry unfortunately.
@@XVa-uj8mindia doesn't have agencies but film schools kind of work in same way. Most of the people in filmschools have already connections in industry or people who are trying to get connections to establish themselves while learning something. Its a win win
Idgaf Anton is really talented and deserves to be in RIIZE. He is gifted in a lot of ways. He's a witty guy and he is hella savage! The perfect combination.
yupp👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
buying success while pulling down people trying to do it genuinely is so sad (this is my opinion no need to vent at me in the replies)
cry about it
@@Meovvw1 a poor random like you should talk like that
@@Meovvw1Just because you cried about doesn't mean you should tell others to do it
How can some individuals be accused of "buying success" when their family already owns it? Purchasing success isn't synonymous with nepotism; I have the ability to buy things if I choose to.
Jealousy is a disease
I mean if they're really talented, it doesn't really matter all that much. After all the industry is filled with "visuals" who can't sing or dance, nepotism is not the biggest issue in the industry
Thank you! If I see one more comment about a mediocre (at best!) vocalist deserving more lines, I swear I’ll scream. 😡
How many of those visuals are nepo babies?
@@LyraReid pretty much all of them
if these "nepo babies" are genuinely talented, they shouldn't be shunned just because their families are rich - sometimes they are so much more than just their connections.
Most nepo babies aren't talented
@@LyraReid how would you know that??? There are tons of nepo babies around the world
@@user-mc4ju4r I'm referring to Kpop nepo babies
@@LyraReid depends on the KPOP nepo baby, I’m not going to generalize all of them 🧐
Let's be honest, we ALL would use convections if we had them. If you say you would not then you are as fake as some idols image. Some of this so call Nepo babies are talented and put the effort to get where they are. Don't hate them just because they have money or connection.
Exactly!
If i could choose i wanna be born from a wealthy family as well, being poor is not a flex 💀
Literally! Some people always act like being born rich is bad while being poor is a flex. Like, no. Being rich gives you more opportunities and its okay to use them
@@Hellokitty_391right 😅😂😂
@@Hellokitty_391 being poor and then success in life is a flex coming from rich parents is not
Companies/Labels always say Nepo Baby "passed" the audition.... like suuuuuuuuuure.
Didn't Hyunsik didn't mention his father to his company till he came in to sign papers?
Exactly
Even if Jin comes from a rich family, he didn't use that to get into the group. It was a manager, he saw Jin at the bus stop and was amazed by his visual and asked him if he was interested in becoming an idol. He didn't knew dancing or singing, he has worked very very hard to become an idol and I am so proud of him 💜 Love you Jin 💜
Same with every group , everyone works hard i am in kpop since ages , Can you stop making our fandom look like bullies?
@@girlinluv426 are you high or what, when did I made the fandom look like bully, I am just writing Jin's backstory. What's your problem ? use your brain before writing a comment
@@a_k_u_ she just angry to you cause you explained why jin couldn't called nepo baby, butthurt solos wants him to be a nepo baby so much😏
Correction for Giselle part, she indeed went thru Saturday audition but it took her 4 times to get thru it. In fact she didn’t pass with Mark’s rap, it was CL’s Lifted. It might be true she could be from wealthy family, but her success is not from her wealth cable, she can be considered as self made 😊
Maybe the judges passed her because she had connections
@@wings2769 if she used her connections to get in, why would they purposefully fail her 3 times before she got in?
Nepotism is a tough one to tackle because there will be some that legitimately have the talent and work ethic but there will be just as many if not more that get there solely based on money and connections. Especially now that, let's be real, there are a lot of "singers" that can't sing well because music production is such that a good producer and engineer can make anyone sound amazing, not to mention if you're rish and well connected, you'll have access to the best teachers, best producers, best equipment and even going into how looks are considered so important for idols, nepo babies can afford surgeries, cosmetics, designer clothes and styling, etc so they just immediately come in with such a huge advantage over the others that it's easy to see how it's problematic when combined with the requirements expected of idols. It's tough, there's no clear answer because you can't say that nonone from anrich background can be an idol and only a few are noticeably not as good as the others where you could claim they clearly only made it because of something besides their talent.
And on the flip side, just objectively having a nepo baby in a group makes sense because connections are everything. If a group has great singers and dancers and then a less talented nepo baby that has direct ties to famous or powerful people in the industry, their presence is technically gonna be more instrumental to the success of the group than anyone else there whether it's fair or not so is it right to say they shouldn't be there when other positions that have nothing to do with musical talent are expected? Like visuals, someone being hot should have nothing to do with music but it's as important if not more important. Age? Race? The nepo baby problem is a symptom of what sells in Kpop IMO.
The big reason why nepotism is considered a bad thing is when its apparent said person doesn't have the skills or background to get where they are. a general example Chelsea client walking in to a 600k job in the Clinton foundation. Even with her experience the senior rule she got while exceeded the her education and experience. Where someone like Kim Chae won provide time and time again to be a part of the industry even though her mother is an actress in Korea. Yes, it helps being from a rich family so you don't have the same struggles but doesn't mean you are going to succeeded in the industry.
Sunny of SNSD is a real talent. And now she is moving on from SM after seventeen years. She has a great career.
Agree
What songs have you listed with her singing solo? Not being sarcastic, seriously asking.
@@XVa-uj8m she took the variety/MC route
She never tried much about her music career
Oh she finally left SM?! Good for her!!
No she's not. She totally only got into the group because she's Lee Soo man's niece. She's the most obvious case of nepotism
Guys I’m sorry but I love me a good underdog story. It allows me to connect more to the idol.
Same. I don’t get how people can idolise rich idols like “my queen/king came from a rich family and is now a rich idol and will keep getting richer even if they slack, haters can stay poor ololol” 🤔 what’s so inspiring about an idol that slaps you with the message “life is unfair”. What’s there to idolise about a person who is a walking embodiment of “life is unfair”.
@@imthecoolest50 agree
Well said
@@imthecoolest50 sounds like suga. He made it and is still complaining about his life being unfair
But anton genuinely works hard and honestly it doesn't even shadow his group members so I don't think his 'nepotism' overshadows others and his hard work.
He literally always gets the least lines and being put in the back (riize choreography).
@@Hellokitty_391 Fr, sm always push wonbin shotaro and sungchan anyways ( no hate to any members I love them all
@@Ranasirisha yes i love riize too 🧡🧡
@@Ranasirisha if I were SM I’d push them, too. 😂
Seriously, I think Wonbin deserves every second he gets. He’s really good. And Sohee gets pushed quite a bit as well. Shotaro and Sungchan being seniors also makes sense. I like Anton a lot, and from what I’ve noticed with SM I believe that the company is going to gradually bring him to the front.
@@lulashepard3253 yes! Anton has producing and composing skills so I think they're going to let him produce some tracks for riize in future.
everyone in world have talent and skills (some can be enhanced or learned over time)
but powerful connection makes it lot easier
Connections help a ton for sure, but you can't succeed in this industry without talent. Admittedly, their parents being rich also help with that as it gives them access to a lot more expensive types of training.
kpop was never about talent
I don't care if an idol is a nepo baby or comes from a wealthy family so long as they prove themselves. Most of us are able to tell who actually puts in the work
''we aren't blind'' may i remind y'all that you all voted for miss dozen bahorsie just because she had a famous brother
Can't think of a nepo baby that has exceptional talent
"it might not have been the reason but it definitely help alot" bro what ?
I think she always tries to satisfy both sides of the discussions and it leads t such sayings lmao
Bro yes?? I'm confused as to why 59+ people couldn't fathom this sentence. It simply means that, while not being the sole reason or most influential reason, it still contributed to the result. An example: 72% is talent and skills, 28% is connections. Connections were an influence, but they wouldn't do anything if a person didn't have talent and skills.
@@PointlessExistence-nq9nb bro is not aware that things can have multiple influences
It’s true though
I liked that when you said "Blood, Sweat and Tears" while showing Jin... not sure if intentional or not, cool nonetheless, hahaha
Lmao i noticed it too
Me too lmfao
Sunny's duo group was gonna be called Sugar, not Teen Top.
Except SNSD Sunny was a real deal back in the day. All around good performer, singer, dancer, great energy, personality, talent in hosting and being a radio DJ. She revolutionized and popularized "Aegyo" in the more recent times and was the standard on how female Kpop idols should perform in Variety shows. She made a mark in the industry. It just so happened that she is a relative of the CEOs and such but it doesn't really have anything to do with her being popular. Sunny worked hard and earned it.
Yes, she is my favorite in snsd since they debuted but she is a nepo baby. We can't ignore that people who have connections have it easier than those without, but it doesn't mean a nepo baby can't be talented and deserving, too! Sunny is an example of one of the people who had connections but also the talent to back it up!
Even with that sm never give her especial treatment!
7:10 why is Anton's mother blurred??
I still remember someone saying, "there's no problem using connections, in the end your work is the one that prove it, but if you failed you're trash."
Slightly off topic but I feel so disgusted by people saying Anton should "Do his own thing" when he has been doing projects and perform with his dad.. So idols aren't allowed to have a good time with their parents anymore? Who the heck are you to tell him he "should do his own projects"?
This is one of the few nepo commentaries that I don’t agree with
BOLLYWOOD LEFT THE CHAT
I was about to say that. Bollywood after a few years will be changed to Nepowood
It doesn't matter it's been like this since forever and times are changing, anybody nowadays can become a kpop idol
Black, white, orange, reds it doesn't matter anymore
This channel has lost its purpose that it's now trying to make up story but the worse channel is "BTSforever2013" you and them are too problematic
Wait why
@@belphieyiu hey I hope you good, you must be new but it's nothing but the truth it's very problematic just for views
I'm really curious about the new BlackLabel gg.
Because they are rich.
We will see if they really are talented or not
I don't like nepotism. Anyway they use there parents power. Not in industry but it was getting normal in common communitys if your parents are rich and have connections so you are definitely going to get what you want. No matter how much a person who came from poor family did hard work there always a nepo who take the opportunity 😢. And them those nepo baby say we also did hardwork i don't give a shit to there hardwork 😭
Rich and famous becoming more rich and famous
I'm surprised how many people in the comments are perfectly okay with this practice.. wow..
Using your connections to get to the top is common practice and should be strong only if the person isn't deserving.
i mean they made horsehiyyih debut so why are we surprised now
Because their faves benefited from nepotism
The amount of fans who are not only ok but trying to argue with people who have a genuine problem with nepotism in kpop is pathetic. Yall are pathetic. Yes if they are talented yay but there are many more people that have talent that have opportunities ripped away because people with rich parents and connections come first. Class issues are a problem, nepotism is a problem, you SHOULD care about that even if your fave is. Honestly I’m shocked people want to act like this is a ok or neutral thing.
Pathetic.
Like the amount of people saying “as long as they can sing good idc if they used connections!” Do y’all hear yourself 😭
You don’t have to hate these idols but man that is not a good thing and does say something to their talent if they could not have gotten in without those connections.
preachhh !! they're sellout and great capitalism enablers
Not selling out or pathetic, just telling the truth.
Umji was added to Gfriend so that her family can give the group foods and rent sometimes. That is why SinB hated her so bad before in their trainee days because she was able to debut in just a short time while sinb gave everything so that she can debut.
Why was Anton’s mother blurred out?
probably copyright reasons
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Giselle didn't deny she came from a rich family but she denied about came from a third generation rich something and have a business
I think people call them nepotism because it’s easy for them to live and train with financial support. But at the end of the day they still go and train and have to improve their skills like everyone else
I can't believe I didn't know that Anton had super famous parents
He's even friends with IU and Seventeen's Vernon's sister Sofia.
So you're normal then, you don't waste your time like kpop stans do to desperately dig up idol's past, families etc.
Nepotism in kpop is nothing when compared to other places where the people genuinely lack talent. Here in kpop its definitely hard to survive without actual talent.
Yeah KPOP companies don’t really care about talent
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Quit being delusional because we know some idol got in not because they can sing.
@@orbies yeah I know that and it doesn’t matter if a nepo baby debuts
Yeah I agree! Those Kpop idols atleast got talent but look at today’s Bollywood. Almost everyone is a nepo baby and they can’t act shit.
I’m ngl these days as long as you have connections, have a marketable image and a bit of talent you can become a kpop idol. Members in groups nowadays can sing and dance but I just think the quality individually isn’t that great(for SOME idols). It feels like, if you work visually than the company will work on you’re dancing and singing after, rather than the other way around.
I feel bad for ppl getting called nepo babies especially when they are good at what they do cuz it just leads to so much hate and like they are being pushed down like it’s not their fault like it’s not our fault we’re nit rich
Who cares about Nepo baby? For as long as they're talented, they can join the industry. Besides, debuting doesn't mean they already succeed. They need hardwork to reach success. Anton is such a talented kid. I fell in love with his voice without knowing his background. He may be a Nepo baby, but I'm just so glad that he managed to debut and share his talent to the world. Jin may came from a rich family, but that doesn't excused him from the harsh reality of a trainee. If you're an army, you would know how hard it was for them when they were trainee and even after debut, BTS still struggled. Success wasn't handed to them freely, they worked hard for it, including Jin. Some people may say it's unfair for those who worked hard just to debut or be part of a certain group, just because Nepo baby has money and connection doesn't mean they will succeed in this industry without trying too hard, after all, talent plays a big role. And it's not like they chose to be born rich. Those names who were mentioned are all talented except that one trainee who hasn't debut yet (I don't know her skills).
Most nepo babies aren't talented
I mean to be fair
A lot of people get into businesses through connections
So, even if they get through because of their rich family
I don't see an issue with it
It's all good until they give their "I came from nothing speech"
@@heavenlypath1065 yesss this.
In fact, K-pop is a business industry overall
Says a blink
@@heavenlypath1065 which nepo idol said that though?
well there’s ~nepo~ babies and then there is NEPO BABIES
Nowadays kpop industry is more like fashion industry, if u have connection and rich enough u can actually take the chance of debut from someone who is more talented but comes from a poor family , this is sad, but this is the truth of world i mean they have money and power and connection in this industry and u guys think they not gonna use it? 😃Their life is easy from the beginning to the end what can i say good for them .
bahiyyih is definitely a nepo baby. the reason why i tuned in to gp999 and a lot of moas too is because kai’s sister was in it
edit: not a nepo baby but came from nepotism
Just because she’s his sister it does not mean she’s a Nepo baby
for real the group became famous because of her background
@@sophiandablay9829it def does. All the influence of kai pushed bahi above more deserving ones. You dont need to white kight too much. See it for what it is
@@sophiandablay9829 oh yeah that’s technically true
If you ask people "you know kep1er?" majority will say oh yeah Kai's sister,
fans desperately wants to deny it but she literally gets no screentime, no lines, but majority knows kep1er bc they have "Kai's sister" in it@@cherryheartcabezas6293
Sunny must be the sweetest Nepo baby she was talented and she served the group especially through varieties and she could sing and all her members adore her
Giving the person with an active, popular, big-four idol as a brother whose debut was entirely decided by K-Pop fans VOTING on a K-Pop survival show a pass but then calling Anton a nepo baby is a WILD take. Most idol fans aren't going to know who Yoon Sang is. Methinks there's some bias happening here.
I think it's fine to use your connections to your advantage because if you have opportunities of course you would take them, as long as they are talented their is no problem with being priviliged
It has never been confirmed that is Giselle's aunt, also even if she was there's no proof LSM would pick Giselle based on solely dating her aunt. Also if Giselle was picked based on nepotism why is she by far the worst treated out of the four aespa members?
All good arguements, kookielit just needs clicks and comments and Giselle is a very popular and hated 4th gen idol
9:55 thats crazy bro..
The fact that all the nepo babies are from big 4 if they are talented why they don't go for small companies
Not to be rude but why would they wanna go to a small company like even if they are talented and end up debuting under the small company the chance that they will get the recognition they deserve is pretty small, like there are dozens of kpop groups that debut every year but only some get popular, even groups like mamamoo don’t get the recognition they deserve and they are literally all aces also they hav been idols for almost 10 years, I mean if you are talented then it’s better to go under a big company so you have a higher chance of getting recognition and success, I mean look at baemon they are all very talented and under yg entertainment, honestly expected it though cause yg has the most allrounders out of hybe, jyp, yg, and sm. Honestly I think the only company where the nepo baby thing is huge is at hybe I mean a majority of hybe idols get in because they can dance or they were popular before debut, also I’m not trying to discredit hybe idols cause most of the idols there are like dance machines but yk that’s not enough.
Yeah no wonder why kpop idols nowadays are talentless. Money and looks is all it takes to be a kpop idol in this generation.
That was for everyone generation don't kid yourself
Even if sunny was a nepo kid she is very talented I’m into Kpop since last 10 years but sunny will be my ultimate bias in Kpop
I agree
7:10 why is her face blurred?
Not everyone can be a Sunny, she can sing, dance and is the Queen of Aegyo. Everyone has an opportunity even Nepo Babies, Kpop fans will sort them out regardless. Great Video! ❤
There is a difference between being a talentless person who succeeds only because of favour from someone who holds power and influence in your industry, and then being someone from a privileged background who had more time, energy and resources to put towards developing their craft and career, and then was lucky enough to succeed. The most important thing is to acknowledge the blessings and opportunities you had, instead of claiming to be “self-made.” Very few people, even people who came from property, are 100% self made. The majority of people had SOMEONE supporting them in some way.
The girls in the Black Label haven't even debuted so we have no clue what talent the may or may not have. And if they have the money to pay for what they need to male it then so be it.... the idols that don't have the path carved out by their parents will always prove themselves no matter the case. But nepotism babies I have seen have to work harder and if they can't get where they need then they will fall out. SUNNY IS ACTUALLY TALENTED!!! After Jessica left we seen alot more of Sunnys vocals and talent.
Nepo babies might have talent but i bet there are lots of others who are way more talented but are overshadowed simply because nepo babies have connections. Here the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I would much rather support someone who has come up with their own struggles and hardwork. From what i see, lately nepo babies have suddenly been keen on joining the kpop industry. For what reason idk (my guess is travelling, fame and being idolised and glorified by fans.) Pretty sure if kpop hadn't been a booming business since the last few years, none of them would've even thought about it. That being said, even the kind of music nowadays is boring. They're all trying to be westernised. I liked kpop till gen 3 but now everything just seems shallow. Like its not about music anymore; just money and its not my cup of tea
Respectfully, I do think Bahiyyih could fall under the nepotism umbrella. Huening Kai doesn't have any managerial power, but he has a lot of social capital. Normally that wouldn't be a big deal, but her group was formed in a competition reality series where social capital is everything. The people who get noticed (for whatever reason - talent, looks, charisma) are the people who win, and she came to the series with her brother's social influence. Would she have been featured/notied nearly as much if she were not related to her brother?
Why are you not talking about that nepo baby from stayc?
one of the upsides of the kpop industry is that hard work and effort keeps you in the industry regardless of how you came in
Everyone deserves a chance. If they have talent then we must not hate them.
Most nepo babies don't have talent
If you dont use ANY connections, you will NEVER make it anywhere in life. Hence why we are asked for references. BUT if you ONLY use connections then yeah it's an issue
how come eunchae isn't mentioned at all?
How is Loren a nepotismo baby by your definition? He is just really reslly really rich.
My opinions is are doesn’t matters families have really rich and average backgrounds in their leverage, people starting choirs practice with who can selected from, different ways with R/B, Hip-hop Rap, Music, makes best in fields learning creativity group for others as well too
With Kpop being more popular than ever now, it's not going to be cheap to get into it. So, people with good connections and have money are more likely to be successful. It's only natural. However, if you suck you're still not going to make it far lol people in the industry still have to train no matter how much money you make and go through the same struggles working day after day to be the best they can be.
I'm not a RIIZE fan, I don't even know the fandom name BUT if you grow up in such a household your bound to pick up similar interests..
You know that saying “fake it til you make it”? Well, if you’ve got a lot of money and time to fake it, you will eventually make it.
if using connection can make you on top then live show won't matter , just like the recent show universe ticket , just because you're a former idol doesn't mean your good chances are 50/50 in the eyes of public vs stan
being a former idol has nothing to do with nepotism, especially when your example is flop groups like dia, majors etc
@@notpregnant the truth hurts, its not all about riches , its about the connection, people you already know and know you inside
@@bjcanz and it still doesn't fit the nepotism definition because it's all about YOUR previous work, YOUR OWN fame that YOU worked for, unlike idols who use the fame of someone else like bahikhia
@@notpregnant you never know, what if being famous before could get you easy to any events , and yet your performance is on that level with days of training , no matter what song you select if your good your good , if flop your flop, no wonder the judges is so disappointed, they expected higher from a former idol, politics in showbiz
@@bjcanz i doubt the diarrhea members or major member statut get you that much privilege . this is not being famous, this is just having experience, now if they had more than 15 stans and were an idol from a mid tier group it would be another issue but failed idols aren't really a threath in ''fairness'' into competitions, unless it's like an even nuguer show. agree that high focus on them is annoying tho.
Great video once again miss Kookielit. I think it sure helps a company, if one of the members has a ritch or famous backgroup. Ritch parents don't want there kids to fail and maybe pump money into the group, giving them better promotion or more comebacks. But if that is a good thing.......I'm not sure of it.
The Korean short movies have covered this topic so many times. Yes nepo babies seem to go significantly further because of nepotism 💀they give money to the company to promote them more
Loren case i believe he a nepo baby, he got to 88rising during the companies peak years.
Anton is such an icon 😂
He is!
Bruh that rhymes-
Nah that Vulture article was toxic af because it rebranded ‘nepotism’ from ‘rich and has connections’ as we knew it into ‘my aunt worked at the McDonald’s next to the film studio 35 years ago’ type of shit lmao
I think why some people push the issue of people getting in the industry because of their status is because I personally feel it doesn't give the regular People to get in, back in 3rd generation some idols that came from regular or poor families got in, but now alot of idols are nepo babies. Which isn't a bad thing if they have talent, but still. Just my opinion though
I think mostly its the companies... they should consider everyone based on thier talents not just backgrounds.. like if a trainee is training for more than half of their life and then there are nepos or rich kids who just jump in easily through connections and debut like in 1 or half a year. And also companies considering the rich families in first places...like no hate to any idol but we can clearly see in yg and black label there's literally not a single idol since the company got big who came frm a normal family.
sunny may not be the best dancer or singer in her group but her fun and happy personality shines alot. she seems to be in good terms with all the members (even with jessica and openly talks about her after she quit which is a no no in sm) and is brave enough to protect them (like taeyeon being kidnapped on stage). she works hard like the rest of them and treat them like her sisters. she's like that likable normal kid in school thats part of every school clique. you have no idea that she's a nepo baby until you discovered it
Come to India, watch Bollywood you'll know what real nepotism is .
Not all of them are like that.... They have got talent too! I seriously wonder why these people are fighting over nonsense stuff these days... ive been into kpop for a lot of time, it seriously wasn't like that before... it was so peaceful.... i want to experience it again!! Many people now joined kpop, which starts fights & stuff.........
It would be interesting for companies to scout the heirs of rich companies. High risk though because most rich kids are not used to the discomforts associated with being an artist. But we’ll see
People act like benefiting from your family's connections, money or status is a bad thing. Being privileged is not a bad thing if you acknowledge it and are actually talented and hardworking. The issue comes from the spoiled, rich, talentless kids who think they are entitled to a music career just because they like kpop and their parents can afford their debut. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, lmao.
the problem is that nobody understands what a nepo baby is. if the person is talented and goes through the process just like everyone else, IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THEIR PARENTS ARE!!!
yes it does 💀
@@701filesno it doesn’t bro even if they got in because of their parents as long as they prove that they deserve the space in the group they shouldn’t get hated (no idol should rlly get hate though they should get criticized though) like I mean the amount of nepo babies in kpop is crazy but one thing a lot of them have in common is that they are talented people who deserve the space in the group and honestly deserve their recognition
Parental status can only open the doors for their children but to stay in the industry the children must put in their own work. Nepotism is only a problem if the Nepo Baby is lazy and tries to coast on their parents fame.
"Born this way by Lady Gaga" -Anton
I remember this hahaha
Honestly, if nepo baby idols can sing and dance and perform, I think it's perfectly fine.
8:44 woah straight up slap 😂😂😂. Good job Anton
Just honestly think there should be a healthy mix. Theres talent everywhere, and diversity is beautiful. Thats all lol
it is an awfully competitive industry and who wouldn’t use all their cards to get in? Getting in is one thing, but staying in the public’s favour is another, and that’s where you can see their talent and commitment
I know their r alot of artist who already have a successful career and live in this industry always ready to help their children in whatever they want in their life but there is no lie that the artist who always accused of nepotism are so talented and hardworking so it dies not matter where they belong to so I hope people stop this shit of nepotism
Nepo babies or not, I don't think it's fair to judge a person or a group based on their family background without actually seeing their skills & talents, plus it's not as if they have a say which family they'll be born into. 2nd gen has a lot of idols that came from rich families, SNSD's Sooyoung & Sunny and 2NE1's CL & Park Bom to name a few but no one can deny the fact that they EARNED their fame via their talent and hardwork. Also there are idols born with silver spoons that their idol career didn't really took off like ZE:A Park Hyung Sik & Block B's P.O (though they are both equally successful on their chosen line of work in the industry) but it goes to show that being born with silver spoon doesn't guarantee succes in the music scene.
Literally. For example Løren altho is a nepo baby made his entire discography himself, can sing and produce, worked with other YG artists YET he is a nugu.
Hiiii I love your videos so much ❤