i read this comment and looked for it the next round in the video, the fortune teller he had added its 180ish mult or whatever when the mult count was at 117,514 already.. lmao
yeah this is what type A’s should be telling him. he rarely thinks about how adding mult before steel/bloodstone/blue legendary is anywhere from 2 to 2^5 times 1.5^4 as much in general which i get because the score flies by so fast. but instead type a’s shit their pants about moving blueprint at the exact right ante to do it
this and he just gets addicted to vagabond way after he’s run out of a use for the majority of tarot cards. there is absolutely no reason to blow $50 on rerolls for it.
@@mrlama1993 Genuine question, since late game is something I just don't have the math skill to really break down, what order should he have the jokers in?
@@Canadian_Princess they weren't talking about late game, they were talking about earlier in the run. NL was winning rounds quickly with vagabond which is bad because you get fewer tarot cards per round. NL could have moved the xmult to the left of the flat mult to score fewer points and be able to play more hands before winning, but didn't. Having xmult on the right is best for higher scores.
@@Canadian_Princess with high card hands, blueprinting vagabond yields more tarot cards, but scorewise it's probably best to copy whatever is the highest mult-multing joker (in this case, steel joker). for the flush five, the base mult is so high that the extra x2 triggers from triboulet means that he would want the order to be: (vagabond in any position), (blueprint + triboulet in any position), fortune teller, then driver's license and steel joker at the end. which _is_ how he ends up having it at the end, thankfully! once you get to the point where you have retriggers giving mult-multing effects on scored/held cards (glass cards, triboulet, baron, bloodstone, idol, etc.), flat mult jokers are essentially useless because they add the mult after you've already built up a ludicrous score. basically, flat mult jokers to the left, mult-multers to the right. jokers that affect the cards themselves don't matter _too_ much unless you have multiple of them (like lusty joker giving a heart card +3 mult, then bloodstone x1.5'ing it. lusty on the left, bloodstone on the right). it's all kinda in depth and complex!
@@MrGuy__the flat mult is worthless once NL starts playing his flush five, triboulet alone takes the mult to like 1000+ before fortune teller can add anything
@@MrGuy__ So does all the other mult. He ended up with 168k, it was 10k when fortune teller was added and before the other mult multers. So again, a 1.25% increase in his score.
For reference when at the end not knowing how close you were. 1.6e11 is 160billion or (160,000,000,000) you had at the end 8.4 billion (8,400,000,000) so you were roughly 5% of the way there.
I will dream tonight about what could have happened if he had sold scholar instead of sock and buskin that one time I will be counting E’s to fall asleep
39:14 - I lost my mind when he put the red seal on the 10 46:25 - contemplating campfire being his only out then debating scary face value to help boost his score for 30 seconds before thinking about swapping blueprint to trib is just peak NL and honestly it's exactly what I'm here for lmao It still took him a bit longer to realize that fortune teller was useless but that's okay, he got there eventually
I love this man and his content, and I think unusual decisions often make for more fun gameplay to watch, but my god him never learning that + mult jokers don't do anything compared to x mult jokers when your hand already gets you a ton of mult before the jokers have effect is actually turning me type A
I haven’t watched a balatro egg video for like maybe 6 weeks. Life’s gotten crazy and I’ve just hit this vid and it’s pogging my gourd more than you could ever imagine
No one believes is bad, NL just thinks the rest believes that because he refuses to sell it when he is in like ante 10 and everyone tells him he should sell it for something that adds score. In this run, it was eternal so obviously he couldn't sell it, but even if it wasn't eternal, he wouldn't have sold it. Its the same with fortune teller, for some reason he believes they are the Best jokers no matter the circunstances
Fortune teller becomes useless compared to all the multiple jokers since tiboulet prices before it. So you have flush five base mult times 2^5 which is bigger than the fortune teller, mean any multiple is better than fortune teller
Starting at ante 9, when NL was underwhelmed by the score his Flush Fives were getting, I started almost chanting "move the Blueprint, move the Blueprint". As of ante 11, he still hadn't moved it and I began to despair.
Also the fact he had a tarot card print machine on ghost deck. He could have had a polychrome glass red stamp queen deck. He also kept putting purple stamps on his worthless cards instead of his queens which means he is using death on four's instead of queens
So much pain. Worked out pretty well. I mean. Relatively speaking. But. It's kinda like finding a treasure chest full of diamonds. And then you take a diamond out and put it in your pocket. And you leave the rest there and think "boy howdy I didn't have any diamonds and now I have one!". It's true. Relatively speaking, compared to most days, this is a good outcome. But after walking away, the rest of them are gone forever. Diamond lad is happy. Onlookers can't believe what they've witnessed.
I love how deranged his reasoning is sometimes, the type a frustration exists. But it’s far funnier seeing him make the zaniest choices that are detrimental, but genius from NL perspective. Him wishing for sock and buskin while selling it over a useless card is kino
22:00 destroying cards makes it so future modifications to your deck are relatively more significant. Early game you want to take immolate, death, glass. If you halve the number of cards in your deck your tarot cards affect proportionally twice as much of the deck.
9:11 I have to admit that was pretty good. "Our consulting team believes Four Queens is a better way to reach the modern audience than the patriarchy.". That would have been pretty bad... reminds me of that horrible tragedy.
Watching him hold the blueprint on vagabond when he's in need of extra mults and when vagabond is not even proccing since he has too much money is a little painful haha, obviously it's different watching this back on a VOD vs playing in real time, but definitely a bit funny to see. Also re-rolling down to get vagabond to keep proccing on like ante 12 instead of buying stuff that'd actually help his run too, and keeping the flat 120 or whatever mult from tarot reader...
He will never see this. And I'm ashamed of my words and my deeds for being a Type A chatter. But man i hope he eventually realises that +mult is almost useless when you have sooo many ways to get Xmult instead.
+mult is only good if it applies before any xmults start hitting. Basically only vampire decks. NL forgetting order of operations with when Fortune Teller applies.
I don't even care if no one sees this comment, I just skipped 2 blinds for a polychrome and free rare joker tag. Beat the boss blind easily and the got DNA polychromed. Game's 10/10.
the flat mult at the end is terrible, all of your mult comes from triboulet and steel cards, fortune teller is doing nothing, so selling driver's license which is giving x3 and keeping fortune teller which is like x1.001 is crazy
If my mathematic korrek, and should be true at all times, I think you're correct that Death and Hanged Man are exactly equal value as long as there's anything in your deck that is +EV to draw
For all of the Type A chatters: I think NL doesn't really understand the order of score addition/multiplication, so that's why he thinks certain things will be much stronger than they are (for example, expecting a glass card to multiply the flat mult of a joker) and he expects other things to be much weaker than they truly are (such as a red seal on a card that triggers a mult multiplication)
Removing 2 is mathematically better than adding 1 if your only goal is drawing a specific card. Take a deck with 10 Q of clubs and 10 other cards. Draw 1, you're at 50/50 to get your queen. Add another queen and your at 11/21, or 52%. Subtract two others and you're at 10/18, or 55%. Hell, removing ONE non-hit is very slightly better than adding. 11/21 = 52.2%, 10/19 = 52.6%. Hanged Man is even better than Death. 11/20 is 55% even, 10/18 is 55.6%. As far as deck consistency, Hanged Man is literally the best tarot.
42:41 "only 10 mult but it is multiplied a lot" "I'm not going to use empress even tho it is multiplied a lot" One empressesed queen turns into 128 mult before the steel cards and driver L. and Steel J. which ignoring the steel cards is the same mult as the fortuneteller
While type B thinking has become the status quo, I believe NL played this game extremely well. Obliterated orange stake like it was the Bluey discourse.
a good way to understand what "e" means is the number of zeros. So e11 would be 11 zeros, a billion is 9 so he wouldve needed 160 billion points. Its unfortunate sock n buskin didnt appear, that wouldve gotten him there for sure.
NL has negatively polarized me against fortune teller. Bro is hypnotized by it, as if even 100 mult is *sacrosanct* in the late game. And then hes wanting to sell drivers license- +6,000 mult on the previous hand!
I don't understand the strategy that he always does of applying steel to the cards he wants to play instead of the crap cards that he isn't playing. Does the same thing with purple seal. What am I missing here?
ante 13 is no joke, but i cant help but feel so much more was possible if only dude would stop revolving the late game plan around adding +2 mult to a joker that adds +100 mult to a score that is already like +10k mult. you need retriggers and mult multers, you don't need to hinge the run around a fractional buff of a 1% increase
Driver's License adds 20,000 mult
Fortune Teller adds 148 mult
Driver's license is considered the sellable joker.
It’s actually insane how much he overvalues flat mult jokers in the late game when he already has thousands of mult before the jokers trigger.
i read this comment and looked for it the next round in the video, the fortune teller he had added its 180ish mult or whatever when the mult count was at 117,514 already.. lmao
Like when he was about to sell drivers licence, would have been a crazy play
yeah this is what type A’s should be telling him. he rarely thinks about how adding mult before steel/bloodstone/blue legendary is anywhere from 2 to 2^5 times 1.5^4 as much in general which i get because the score flies by so fast. but instead type a’s shit their pants about moving blueprint at the exact right ante to do it
this and he just gets addicted to vagabond way after he’s run out of a use for the majority of tarot cards. there is absolutely no reason to blow $50 on rerolls for it.
in NL heuristics there is only plus mult and times mult. he knows nothing of order of scoring
“im afraid this steel is gonna make us win too fast”
the steel multiplying the one mult of a level 1 high card by 1.5:
Meanwhile whole time he has drivers license on the far right multiplying the flat mult by 3x
@@mrlama1993 Genuine question, since late game is something I just don't have the math skill to really break down, what order should he have the jokers in?
@@Canadian_Princess they weren't talking about late game, they were talking about earlier in the run. NL was winning rounds quickly with vagabond which is bad because you get fewer tarot cards per round. NL could have moved the xmult to the left of the flat mult to score fewer points and be able to play more hands before winning, but didn't. Having xmult on the right is best for higher scores.
@@Canadian_Princess with high card hands, blueprinting vagabond yields more tarot cards, but scorewise it's probably best to copy whatever is the highest mult-multing joker (in this case, steel joker). for the flush five, the base mult is so high that the extra x2 triggers from triboulet means that he would want the order to be: (vagabond in any position), (blueprint + triboulet in any position), fortune teller, then driver's license and steel joker at the end. which _is_ how he ends up having it at the end, thankfully!
once you get to the point where you have retriggers giving mult-multing effects on scored/held cards (glass cards, triboulet, baron, bloodstone, idol, etc.), flat mult jokers are essentially useless because they add the mult after you've already built up a ludicrous score. basically, flat mult jokers to the left, mult-multers to the right. jokers that affect the cards themselves don't matter _too_ much unless you have multiple of them (like lusty joker giving a heart card +3 mult, then bloodstone x1.5'ing it. lusty on the left, bloodstone on the right). it's all kinda in depth and complex!
@@Canadian_Princess just put the x mult for example drivers license to right, since only it matters when its applied AFTER the multi
NL watching the Fortune teller add 125 mult to his 10000 mult for a 1.25% score increase "wow I should get rid of drivers license!"
to be a liiiiiiiiitle bit fair, the mult from fortune teller gets multed by the other jokers, but yeah still
@@MrGuy__the flat mult is worthless once NL starts playing his flush five, triboulet alone takes the mult to like 1000+ before fortune teller can add anything
@@MrGuy__ So does all the other mult. He ended up with 168k, it was 10k when fortune teller was added and before the other mult multers. So again, a 1.25% increase in his score.
This was such a pain to watch... So much in this game and he still doesn't get how the order works...
im only 18 min in and yea i predicted this to happen later on. he doesnt understand steel cards
For reference when at the end not knowing how close you were.
1.6e11 is 160billion or (160,000,000,000)
you had at the end 8.4 billion (8,400,000,000)
so you were roughly 5% of the way there.
fortune teller was essentially useless at the end but blueprint vagabond is a pogged up combo
2x speed yt watcher caught red-handed
@@cameroncurtis7261 CAUGHT
@@cameroncurtis7261 I'm a 1.25 Andy myself
I will dream tonight about what could have happened if he had sold scholar instead of sock and buskin that one time
I will be counting E’s to fall asleep
Yeah he didnt have the vision to see the potential
The seeds on the game over screen
13:27 So... he is making a deck full of queens and decides to sell sock 'n buskin over scholar... never change egg.
Ever heard of hindsight?
@@xToTaLBoReDoMx Literally doesn't need hindsight to see how bad that play was there.
@@xToTaLBoReDoMx ever heard of having an iq above 90?
We're balatro viewers of course our collective iq is 5 @@LC-mq8iq
I’m going to start saying “never say never Mr. Baggins” as if it’s a real quote in the hopes that it spreads
Gandolf actually says this to Harry in the fourth movie
39:14 - I lost my mind when he put the red seal on the 10
46:25 - contemplating campfire being his only out then debating scary face value to help boost his score for 30 seconds before thinking about swapping blueprint to trib is just peak NL and honestly it's exactly what I'm here for lmao
It still took him a bit longer to realize that fortune teller was useless but that's okay, he got there eventually
we are of course we
we course we
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Based and philosophy pilled
vagabond + blueprint + fortune teller + green joker is the most edgemaxed build possible trying to not score high enough early
Trying not to score and not to sell over the vagabond
I cannot stop staring at the blueprint he is refusing to move.
Yeah Blueprints just vibin and enjoying the chips at the party. Egg forgot he invited him in the first place.
It's Sunday morning. He never expected to get this far and became sunny side up
great, as someone who's new to the game, I wouldn't have noticed this but now it's gonna bother me too
I was squirming on my couch, hollering at the TV. Real gameshow experience 10/10.
I understand, however it don't matter.
52:06 Machamp when he evolves into MaChad
+2
@@MuhMuhMamaLuigi +2
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I love this man and his content, and I think unusual decisions often make for more fun gameplay to watch, but my god him never learning that + mult jokers don't do anything compared to x mult jokers when your hand already gets you a ton of mult before the jokers have effect is actually turning me type A
I haven’t watched a balatro egg video for like maybe 6 weeks. Life’s gotten crazy and I’ve just hit this vid and it’s pogging my gourd more than you could ever imagine
24:31 Charles Martinet's spirit went in to his body for three seconds
The fortune teller is great early game and does just slightly more than nothing at the end…
I don’t think anyone reasonable thinks vagabond is bad especially when you get it early
It got nerfed for a reason.
@@Lucifers-Stepdadwas it nerfed?
@@iluxa-4000 yeah it's been locked into rare.
No one believes is bad, NL just thinks the rest believes that because he refuses to sell it when he is in like ante 10 and everyone tells him he should sell it for something that adds score. In this run, it was eternal so obviously he couldn't sell it, but even if it wasn't eternal, he wouldn't have sold it. Its the same with fortune teller, for some reason he believes they are the Best jokers no matter the circunstances
@@Lucifers-Stepdad makes sense tbh
"We're so due, by the way."
Egg just has the Wheel of Fortune Copium.
Fortune teller becomes useless compared to all the multiple jokers since tiboulet prices before it. So you have flush five base mult times 2^5 which is bigger than the fortune teller, mean any multiple is better than fortune teller
52:06 Me after my holiday to Chernobyl.
he sold Sock and Buskin at the start in favor of Scholar? On a run where he already had like 10 queens? You could have tasted "e" this NL
14:44 me when I'm condensation in grass in the early morning.
+2
+2
49:20 Me, any time I'm riding in a car during college:
47:02 I shouted screams, yelps, ungodly shivering orgasmic convulsions, I tell you, of relief when this mf finally realised this
Yep and before anyone tries to big boy the Type A comment "oh why does it matter"
Would you rather be good, or great?
@@user-fw8wt4qo3oCringe justification to a rough comment
Starting at ante 9, when NL was underwhelmed by the score his Flush Fives were getting, I started almost chanting "move the Blueprint, move the Blueprint". As of ante 11, he still hadn't moved it and I began to despair.
OK, he at least mentioned it wasn't providing any score during the ante 11 boss, that's something.
It was painful to see him sell sock and buskin instead of scholar. But it was even more painful when you see the legendary he gets afterwards...
Also the fact he had a tarot card print machine on ghost deck. He could have had a polychrome glass red stamp queen deck. He also kept putting purple stamps on his worthless cards instead of his queens which means he is using death on four's instead of queens
Discarding a natty straight with green joker to try to get a flush?
3:00 you have the straight brother!!!
10:02 charity marathon runners be like
Screaming at my monitor like Walter White that the fortune teller is doing NOTHING
6:07 I'm an investment banker handing out loans to hedge funds who are over leveraging themselves with mortgage backed securities in 2007
The coding authorities are coming to take NLs software engineering associates degree for asking google what 2^10 is
I love NLs curse to take vagabond at all times no matter the situation
So much pain. Worked out pretty well. I mean. Relatively speaking. But. It's kinda like finding a treasure chest full of diamonds. And then you take a diamond out and put it in your pocket. And you leave the rest there and think "boy howdy I didn't have any diamonds and now I have one!". It's true. Relatively speaking, compared to most days, this is a good outcome. But after walking away, the rest of them are gone forever. Diamond lad is happy. Onlookers can't believe what they've witnessed.
crazy round over all, crazier plays that at points made me question NLs abilities
4 queens, what is this, Henry the 8ths photo album
Ok Thomas Jefferson
All y'all stream watchers is NL cooked on the new patch? I could totally see his internal calculus getting thrown off for like 2 days
Eggs rocking that Ptolemaic astronomy precalc brain before the patch. We ain't nothing to worry about. Enjoy the music of the celestial pogs
I qbsolutely love vagabond tbh, so this was a delight
10:29 gunna wunna mentioned I knew he liked kendrick 😌
I've never been early enough to see the egg before it's cracked.
We’re NL guys, of course we put on his videos before starting our daily chores.
Watching this on my Vision Pro while playing the vacuuming mini game.
22:26 “that’s sadly a sell” with one Diamond in hand is crazy. Never change 🥚
I love how deranged his reasoning is sometimes, the type a frustration exists. But it’s far funnier seeing him make the zaniest choices that are detrimental, but genius from NL perspective. Him wishing for sock and buskin while selling it over a useless card is kino
@49:00 watch NL effectively pay $32 for a single chariot card
misses almost all wheel of fortunes until last round. average wheel of fortune moment
22:00 destroying cards makes it so future modifications to your deck are relatively more significant. Early game you want to take immolate, death, glass. If you halve the number of cards in your deck your tarot cards affect proportionally twice as much of the deck.
56:14 me when someone asks me what's the name of that one John Lennon song about the world having no religion
HE'S BRINGING OUT ALL THE TYPE A'S WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥
3:46 me when I'm changing currencies in Chzech Republic.
38:40 this hurt
oh baby my Type A was coming out hard once fortune teller became useless
his rifusal to keep credit card whernever he has vagabond is crazy, its complete pair that fixes vagabonds biggest downside
We're balatro guys of course we're jokers
Get you someone thats as loyal to you as Egg is to the Vagabond x Blueprint combo
4:44 me when i'm a greek in 2007 and i'm high on awareness spectrum narcotics:
9:11 I have to admit that was pretty good. "Our consulting team believes Four Queens is a better way to reach the modern audience than the patriarchy.". That would have been pretty bad... reminds me of that horrible tragedy.
Invincible reference pog
Can’t stop thinking about the face card re-trigger joker he sold
And the multiple times he passed over Dusk
This bum better move the blueprint card at the end
Edit: ok, he did :)
Watching him hold the blueprint on vagabond when he's in need of extra mults and when vagabond is not even proccing since he has too much money is a little painful haha, obviously it's different watching this back on a VOD vs playing in real time, but definitely a bit funny to see. Also re-rolling down to get vagabond to keep proccing on like ante 12 instead of buying stuff that'd actually help his run too, and keeping the flat 120 or whatever mult from tarot reader...
He will never see this. And I'm ashamed of my words and my deeds for being a Type A chatter.
But man i hope he eventually realises that +mult is almost useless when you have sooo many ways to get Xmult instead.
+mult is only good if it applies before any xmults start hitting. Basically only vampire decks. NL forgetting order of operations with when Fortune Teller applies.
I don't even care if no one sees this comment, I just skipped 2 blinds for a polychrome and free rare joker tag. Beat the boss blind easily and the got DNA polychromed. Game's 10/10.
This is my egg. Bless him.
this cats really cookin today
Imagine if he'd gotten Campfire with the double tarot card pump.
the flat mult at the end is terrible, all of your mult comes from triboulet and steel cards, fortune teller is doing nothing, so selling driver's license which is giving x3 and keeping fortune teller which is like x1.001 is crazy
One day he will respect glass cards
If my mathematic korrek, and should be true at all times, I think you're correct that Death and Hanged Man are exactly equal value as long as there's anything in your deck that is +EV to draw
when he said he wants campfire i thought he meant slay the spire campfire
For all of the Type A chatters:
I think NL doesn't really understand the order of score addition/multiplication, so that's why he thinks certain things will be much stronger than they are (for example, expecting a glass card to multiply the flat mult of a joker) and he expects other things to be much weaker than they truly are (such as a red seal on a card that triggers a mult multiplication)
We think of course we are
I hope this wasn't posted too late to get 500 likes. I think it is funny
It was too late
Removing 2 is mathematically better than adding 1 if your only goal is drawing a specific card. Take a deck with 10 Q of clubs and 10 other cards. Draw 1, you're at 50/50 to get your queen. Add another queen and your at 11/21, or 52%. Subtract two others and you're at 10/18, or 55%. Hell, removing ONE non-hit is very slightly better than adding. 11/21 = 52.2%, 10/19 = 52.6%. Hanged Man is even better than Death. 11/20 is 55% even, 10/18 is 55.6%. As far as deck consistency, Hanged Man is literally the best tarot.
Many odd plays in this but nobody has mentioned him putting red seal on a steel 10 instead of a queen
Great vid
He is finally going endless again
hi tomo
Time to Tomo: 8:15
Me watching Joaquin Phoenix’s performance:
42:41 "only 10 mult but it is multiplied a lot"
"I'm not going to use empress even tho it is multiplied a lot"
One empressesed queen turns into 128 mult before the steel cards and driver L. and Steel J. which ignoring the steel cards is the same mult as the fortuneteller
While type B thinking has become the status quo, I believe NL played this game extremely well. Obliterated orange stake like it was the Bluey discourse.
We are youtube guys, of course we leave a comment for the algorithm
a good way to understand what "e" means is the number of zeros. So e11 would be 11 zeros, a billion is 9 so he wouldve needed 160 billion points. Its unfortunate sock n buskin didnt appear, that wouldve gotten him there for sure.
It appeared all right, but he sold it over scholar when he was duping queens lol
Did he ever finish the challenges? Has he gone Joker-less?
NL has negatively polarized me against fortune teller. Bro is hypnotized by it, as if even 100 mult is *sacrosanct* in the late game. And then hes wanting to sell drivers license- +6,000 mult on the previous hand!
He really thought 8 billion was halfway to 1.6e11 after having a 20 billion point hand
why would chat not like vagabond dipped in mother liz’s chili oil???
I feel like the gas leak has gone too far with manipulating his belief of fortune teller.
crazy seed
zaniest man alive has taken some victims in the comment sections it looks like
I don't understand the strategy that he always does of applying steel to the cards he wants to play instead of the crap cards that he isn't playing. Does the same thing with purple seal. What am I missing here?
It's called NL being NL lol
Lebron James reportedly caught putting a red seal on the only non King or Queen in his hand.
The title is true because the thumbnail looks like it...
No idea though, I just started watching.
Man old orange stake sucked so much ass thank god LocalThunk changed it
PLEASE tell me he moves the blueprint its giving me a tummy ache
I can’t tell which of Nl’s plays are intentional or not
Scary face joker was his last chance in making it past e.11, he pogged too close to the mult multers
Me when I turn on tru tv in a hotel room
ante 13 is no joke, but i cant help but feel so much more was possible if only dude would stop revolving the late game plan around adding +2 mult to a joker that adds +100 mult to a score that is already like +10k mult. you need retriggers and mult multers, you don't need to hinge the run around a fractional buff of a 1% increase
Did he finish the joker less challenge?