I’ve heard this story before and it still makes me cry. This one and the one where the couple was thrown overboard their boat tied to an anchor have probably been the worst stories I’ve heard.
I like to think that I'm opposed to the death penalty too. But like you said, cases like this change your mind. I think of every mother son father daughter who has lost someone to such a depraved monster, and I realize that I'm definitely pro capital punishment
Though we hear about this kind of thing, someone taken in and cared for turning on the person or people who did so much for them, and it is truly horrific and the worst of humanity, it's important to know there are many stories we never hear about where the opposite happens. I know a woman who had a really horrible upbringing, abuse and neglect and her friend's family took her in and helped her in so many ways as a teenager and young twenty something, and she managed to get to college and earn a degree and get a good paying job and saved up, opened up her own business, made a lot more money and turned around and gave back, giving the couple who had helped her so much enough of a boost that they were able to retire and are living their best lives now. Without their help she would have likely ended up homeless and dropping out of school and not having a great life at all, and without her help they would be working into their twilight years just to survive. So there are stories like this too out there, thankfully. Many of them.
Decided to do some research on my own and found out that Jackson and Wade were taken off of death row due to unanimous juries deciding on whether they stay on death row or not. Found out also that Cole is still trying to appeal her death penalty to this day. 😡
To let you know about what happened to the four killers. A news report showed that Tiffany's death sentence was overturned because the jury's decision was split 7 to 3. The Supreme Court ruled that a death sentence had to be where all jurors had to be in agreement. So new sentencing trials were to be held.
Gotta say, I've never heard you say you would have quit watching anything before. Shit like this makes you wanna barricade your house and never trust anyone.
We had a house cell phone for our family phone. Was the primary number we used for our utilities, Dr's appointments, non emergency school, sports, PTA, and other household business. Was a backup for our 5 personal phones, was very handy on numerous occasions, and helped keep track of all household appointments and events, having them all in one place.
Whats unacceptable in my opinion is they may have been given the death penalty but they will live another 20 years in prison before the death penalty is finally carried out.
@@rohe4077 NO!!! 😡 That's not true! Do NOT blame God! They will get punished for every evil they did. That sweet couple is in heaven WITH God! Don't blame God for this. Our loving heavenly Father gave us ALL free will to do HIS will or not. And God is rewarding that couple for their sweet kind hearts to open their door to another. On the other hand, when those evil kids die, they will get punished for everything they did. They're not let off the hook. God is an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God. He won't let them get away with everything they did. They will have to stand before Him and answer to everything they did. Oh! It's not over yet! You may not see it here, but it's coming! It pisses me off that you would even think that. 😡
I knew this story. Hearing it again from John brought me to tears. Makes me think of the line from a John Mellencamp song: They say that people get what they deserve, but, Lord, sometimes it's much worse than that.
They could have just left them in their house tied up. They didn't know the 2 boys that came in and didn't see Michael and Tiffany never even went in the house, they could have easily gotten away with it and let them live.
It often takes more than a decade for appeals to run out and an execution to take place. Some states, like California never carry them out even though execution is legal. And some states don't have a death penalty. The federal government also has a death penalty, but their jurisdiction is limited.
Horrific. I don't know how anyone in the humanity of man can be this awful. As God made man, I know this isn't at all what he intended so I can't imagine what ever happened that could cause this kind of change in a members of man. Unimaginable. And why there was a split in the jurors in Tiffany's trial is unbelievable. How could 3 of them have ever thought that she didn't deserve the death penalty is beyond me
the males are off death row, converted to life and Tiff will most likely get off death row as well in 2023 when she is up for the same thing. Unless they schedule her execution before that date.... btw Tiff could easily gotten out of this if they had shot the couple, she could just claimed the males got frenzied or soemthing and it just happened and she been out by now as most females easily get shorter penalties, especially if they blame their partner....but she had to pick the torture death instead.....so she will most likely spend rest of her life in prison as Florida will most likely convert death sentence to life in prison in 2023 like they did with the other males
This is a heartbreaking story. They were each other's first loves in highschool, became separated for nearly forty years, found each other again, and only got five more years together before their lives were brutally ended.
Such a heinous crime, there should be no doubt about giving them the death penalty, too bad one of the options doesn't include an eye for an eye punishment, meaning since they buried them alive they should get the same punishment. And reading through some of the comments it seems Tiffany is getting another trial because the jury wasn't agreed 100% on the death penalty is another travesty.
Honestly one of the most horrific killings to listen about or think about at all. Very painful. I can't even comprehend it. I fully get how you felt watching it. Rage.
Imagine being the daughter and hearing this is how your mother and her husband died. There wouldn't be a bank in the world i wouldn't rob, to collect the money to pay people in the prison to toture, not kill! Torture every single day for the rest of their piece of sh** lives.
It takes literal decades to go through the appeals process involved in getting a monster to their execution. Unfortunately, I can promise you, they're all still alive.
Death is too easy of an escape, they should not in a cell for the rest of their lives, surrounded by 4 concrete walls as their body breaks and their mind slowly drives into madness.
I don't understand where all these murder happy thieves come from either. This has been happening in Puerto Rico for years. Retirees are prime targets. They get robbed and murdered. Thieves get what they want, why murder the elders? It's like they think they're doing society a favor or something. My mother lived alone after I crossed the puddle so I begged her to move in with me and she did. For all I know she could've been another victim.
None of them will ever be killed by the state. Getting the death penalty and being put to death are seldom the same thing. If this was done in Texas they would be put down quickly but that is not the case in other states.
Evil people make us angry but its a fact, they belong to God and we need to pray for their conversions. I can't imagine more evil than burying people alive. Well that is American Justice - rat on the other teammates for the crime and you get to have a lesser penalty. Otherwise they might not get enough info to prosecute those other mates.
Most states that have the death penalty don't use it or if they do it takes years. Fighting it out in court. Appeal after appeal after appeal. Year after year after year. I just wish that when it was time for them to get their death penalty that it would be to bury them alive in the exact manner that they buried those people alive. ✌❤😎
Mr. ballen is actualy John B Allen his old handle was so he made his handle mr Ballen and it just started being pronounnce as one word and gotta admit its a catchy name
I wish I could say I was shocked by what they did. Horrified, yes. Shocked, no. I guess I have lower opinions of other humans than Kabir. If one of them had not cracked and told the truth the bodies may never have been found, so... I guess I'm glad one broke and spilled everything. I don't support the death penalty. But these people should never be released. There should be some way to deal with them. (Yes I know they probably can't be reformed, and can't be made productive members of society. I also know a death sentence it typically decades in prison exhausting all appeals, etc. before being carried out. But still.)
There's no place in South Carolina that you can drive to Jacksonville Florida in 4 hours. I'm 54yo and have never shared a phone. Other than our land line.
Kabir I'm with you on the death penalty. I'm not for it except cases like this one. Too many people before were falsely accursed and not proven innocent until death. When it's so obvious of quilt yes.
The whimpering while under the dirt comment was so unnerving... My one thing with Mr ballen is he seems to embellish the details for more impact. It's likely true but the mental imagery is SO dark I don't know if I like it or not. I'll never be able to get that out of my head. That one sentence is now what I'll think of when my fear of being buried alive ever comes to mind. Those poor people. At least they were together.
@@kabirconsiders see when a partner has things to hide they mind you casually looking at there phone no point being with someone if you can't be faithful
may i suggest two mrballen videos called "skinwalker ranch" and "the kandahar giant". i think its quite captivating in my opinion i hope you react to it and find it interesting.
In 2017, the death penalty sentence was overturned because their juries had not unanimously recommended the death penalty. Tiffany will have a resentencing hearing in February 2023.
I actually remember this case back in mid-summer in 2005 because I live in just outside of Jacksonville Florida, all four killers are still alive and in prison the female Tiffany Cole is suppose to get a rehearing on her sentence in a couple of months Feb. 2023. Tiffany is now 41 years old and the victims were 61 and 62 when killed.
These 4 psyopaths need to get the death sentence. How could some people in the jury think they didn't deserve that ! If prisons still have small rooms with no windows where they sit in seclusion, put them in those until they finally decide that they need to die.
@@lesliedaubert1411 Agree, what's wild is that the young woman Tiffany Cole wasn't charged as sentences are harshly because she didn't physically take part in burying the couple alive she just watched as it was being done to them.
@@richardlong3745 If it wasn’t for her, the other three monsters wouldn’t’ve known this couple existed in the first place!! If you ask me, the whole story starts and ends with her. Absolutely evil and despicable, the lot of them
When i first saw/heard this video i was driving my semi and it brought me to tears on how someone can be this evil. And that picture made me just very angry.
This reminds me of Steven Benson, he had been stealing money from his mother for some time, having found him out, she was going to amend her will so he wouldn’t be inheriting the $10 million he was expecting. In retaliation he put a pipe bomb in his car and connected it to the ignition. When Steven, his adopted brother Scott, his mother and sister went to the car, Steven claimed he forgot his tape measure and gave the keys to Scott and went back inside. His sister was the only survivor of the blast other than Steven. It only took six weeks and one day to get the evidence to arrest Steven.
If u like true crime take a look at Bailey Sarian or Christina Randall they are amazing at these stories...and yes there is lots more they are my favorite
Kabir is clearly a good guy, his emotions say it all. These people were monsters, and a complete waste of oxygen
This is a good example of why we should keep the death penalty in the USA
I’ve heard this story before and it still makes me cry. This one and the one where the couple was thrown overboard their boat tied to an anchor have probably been the worst stories I’ve heard.
Yeah, these 2 stories always get me to tear up. It’s so awful.
I like to think that I'm opposed to the death penalty too. But like you said, cases like this change your mind. I think of every mother son father daughter who has lost someone to such a depraved monster, and I realize that I'm definitely pro capital punishment
Normally I just get angry or freaked out by Ballen videos, but this one actually brought me to tears.
Though we hear about this kind of thing, someone taken in and cared for turning on the person or people who did so much for them, and it is truly horrific and the worst of humanity, it's important to know there are many stories we never hear about where the opposite happens. I know a woman who had a really horrible upbringing, abuse and neglect and her friend's family took her in and helped her in so many ways as a teenager and young twenty something, and she managed to get to college and earn a degree and get a good paying job and saved up, opened up her own business, made a lot more money and turned around and gave back, giving the couple who had helped her so much enough of a boost that they were able to retire and are living their best lives now. Without their help she would have likely ended up homeless and dropping out of school and not having a great life at all, and without her help they would be working into their twilight years just to survive. So there are stories like this too out there, thankfully. Many of them.
The crucial thing for last story is, simply because they crossed state lines it made it a federal case which carried a greater sentence.
This is one of the cases that i can never really put aside. This one and three or four others haunt me. Terribly heartbreaking.
Decided to do some research on my own and found out that Jackson and Wade were taken off of death row due to unanimous juries deciding on whether they stay on death row or not. Found out also that Cole is still trying to appeal her death penalty to this day. 😡
Since the murder took place in Georgia, let's hope they decide to try them. The feds could do it as well, since they crossed state lines.
🤦♂️😡
Unfortunately there are evil people in the world.
To let you know about what happened to the four killers. A news report showed that Tiffany's death sentence was overturned because the jury's decision was split 7 to 3. The Supreme Court ruled that a death sentence had to be where all jurors had to be in agreement. So new sentencing trials were to be held.
Gotta say, I've never heard you say you would have quit watching anything before. Shit like this makes you wanna barricade your house and never trust anyone.
I miss read the word barricade as barbecue! Barbecue your house?! 😆😆
Love Mr ballen, more please! Also admire his military service.
More on the way :)
Tissue Alert! What a horrible story...I had to go hug all my dogs for comfort after this
This is how evil people can be.
We had a house cell phone for our family phone. Was the primary number we used for our utilities, Dr's appointments, non emergency school, sports, PTA, and other household business. Was a backup for our 5 personal phones, was very handy on numerous occasions, and helped keep track of all household appointments and events, having them all in one place.
Whats unacceptable in my opinion is they may have been given the death penalty but they will live another 20 years in prison before the death penalty is finally carried out.
AND SOME PEOPLE STILL THINK THERE IS NO "EVIL" BUT GOD SEES
Apparently, God is evil. Because, step by step, he allowed this torture.
@@rohe4077 NO!!! 😡
That's not true! Do NOT blame God! They will get punished for every evil they did. That sweet couple is in heaven WITH God! Don't blame God for this. Our loving heavenly Father gave us ALL free will to do HIS will or not. And God is rewarding that couple for their sweet kind hearts to open their door to another.
On the other hand, when those evil kids die, they will get punished for everything they did. They're not let off the hook. God is an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God. He won't let them get away with everything they did. They will have to stand before Him and answer to everything they did. Oh! It's not over yet! You may not see it here, but it's coming!
It pisses me off that you would even think that. 😡
Yes he does 😊
There are just some people that need to get the death penalty I truly believe that there are some people can’t be fixed
Some People need to be disposed
I’m usually against capital punishment but for these four I make an exception
I knew this story. Hearing it again from John brought me to tears.
Makes me think of the line from a John Mellencamp song: They say that people get what they deserve, but, Lord, sometimes it's much worse than that.
That last line is from the song "Empty Hands" by John Mellencamp! One song along with "We are the People" should be on Kabir's list of reactions!
@@ericmeland4153 Thank you. I couldn't remember the name. I was thinking it was Hard Times for an Honest Man but knew that wasn't it.
They could have just left them in their house tied up. They didn't know the 2 boys that came in and didn't see Michael and Tiffany never even went in the house, they could have easily gotten away with it and let them live.
Tiffany Cole is serving life in prison, in August 2023 it was changed. Same as with Alan Wade. Micheal Jackson still remains with a sentence to death.
It often takes more than a decade for appeals to run out and an execution to take place. Some states, like California never carry them out even though execution is legal. And some states don't have a death penalty. The federal government also has a death penalty, but their jurisdiction is limited.
Horrific. I don't know how anyone in the humanity of man can be this awful. As God made man, I know this isn't at all what he intended so I can't imagine what ever happened that could cause this kind of change in a members of man. Unimaginable. And why there was a split in the jurors in Tiffany's trial is unbelievable. How could 3 of them have ever thought that she didn't deserve the death penalty is beyond me
the males are off death row, converted to life and Tiff will most likely get off death row as well in 2023 when she is up for the same thing. Unless they schedule her execution before that date....
btw Tiff could easily gotten out of this if they had shot the couple, she could just claimed the males got frenzied or soemthing and it just happened and she been out by now as most females easily get shorter penalties, especially if they blame their partner....but she had to pick the torture death instead.....so she will most likely spend rest of her life in prison as Florida will most likely convert death sentence to life in prison in 2023 like they did with the other males
I don't like people who commit these crimes, either. I find it interesting to hear them tell their mindset. The brain can do some weird crap
This is a heartbreaking story.
They were each other's first loves in highschool, became separated for nearly forty years, found each other again, and only got five more years together before their lives were brutally ended.
Such a heinous crime, there should be no doubt about giving them the death penalty, too bad one of the options doesn't include an eye for an eye punishment, meaning since they buried them alive they should get the same punishment. And reading through some of the comments it seems Tiffany is getting another trial because the jury wasn't agreed 100% on the death penalty is another travesty.
Honestly one of the most horrific killings to listen about or think about at all. Very painful. I can't even comprehend it. I fully get how you felt watching it. Rage.
The Sumner story was a part of a series on Discovery called Deadly Women. This was a sad story pissed me off
It was in there stomach as well it's disgusting
Sometimes people need to be removed from society. This is a perfect example.
Imagine being the daughter and hearing this is how your mother and her husband died. There wouldn't be a bank in the world i wouldn't rob, to collect the money to pay people in the prison to toture, not kill! Torture every single day for the rest of their piece of sh** lives.
It takes literal decades to go through the appeals process involved in getting a monster to their execution. Unfortunately, I can promise you, they're all still alive.
Death is too easy of an escape, they should not in a cell for the rest of their lives, surrounded by 4 concrete walls as their body breaks and their mind slowly drives into madness.
I don't understand where all these murder happy thieves come from either. This has been happening in Puerto Rico for years. Retirees are prime targets. They get robbed and murdered. Thieves get what they want, why murder the elders? It's like they think they're doing society a favor or something. My mother lived alone after I crossed the puddle so I begged her to move in with me and she did. For all I know she could've been another victim.
After that poor woman's life stories I will NEVER bitch about being born with bad luck ever again
I don't know the current status of the two men who received the death penalty, but I do know that Tiffany is STILL alive to this day (March 19, 2024).
I expected Kabir to say "... to see if it's been carried out, and if it hasn't I'm booking a flight today."
None of them will ever be killed by the state. Getting the death penalty and being put to death are seldom the same thing. If this was done in Texas they would be put down quickly but that is not the case in other states.
Thus the saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." Very horrific and the ultimate injustice.
I 💯 agree with you across the board Kabir!
Because they have seen them and can identify them they couldn't let them go
People can be evil. I truly cannot formulate words.
Evil people make us angry but its a fact, they belong to God and we need to pray for their conversions. I can't imagine more evil than burying people alive. Well that is American Justice - rat on the other teammates for the crime and you get to have a lesser penalty. Otherwise they might not get enough info to prosecute those other mates.
Rotten apples need to be squashed!
I have been a subscriber for a while now and this is the first time I see you react like this 👍
This is probably the angriest I’ve been on the channel, really got to me 😅
Most states that have the death penalty don't use it or if they do it takes years. Fighting it out in court. Appeal after appeal after appeal. Year after year after year. I just wish that when it was time for them to get their death penalty that it would be to bury them alive in the exact manner that they buried those people alive. ✌❤😎
These people are pure evil 😈
How horrid... there are some rancid people on our planet. Let us know what you find sir!
Oh look who it is... 😃
Mind that "food", kiddo... 🤢
Nevermind, I must've mistaken it with another case.
This was a hard video to press the like button for, but it's not like you were the subject of the video. You will get the like as always.
Thanks so much mate :) I totally get what you mean, the story is brutal
Mr. ballen is actualy John B Allen his old handle was so he made his handle mr Ballen and it just started being pronounnce as one word and gotta admit its a catchy name
I wish I could say I was shocked by what they did. Horrified, yes. Shocked, no. I guess I have lower opinions of other humans than Kabir. If one of them had not cracked and told the truth the bodies may never have been found, so... I guess I'm glad one broke and spilled everything.
I don't support the death penalty. But these people should never be released. There should be some way to deal with them. (Yes I know they probably can't be reformed, and can't be made productive members of society. I also know a death sentence it typically decades in prison exhausting all appeals, etc. before being carried out. But still.)
Great reaction brother 🔥 one of my favorite Mr ballen videos ! Sick man 😔
He pronounces his name like ballin'...shot callin'
Bruce at least told where to find them imagine not knowing where they were. So i can’t get mad about Bruce telling and getting life
Omg. I had to stop listening at buried alive. Hope they are rotting in hell. How can people be like this?
You are such a good man, Kabir.
You wouldn't want to know what I'd do. And I would think of my grandparents the whole time
Your reaction is justified. This was barbaric.
You have to do more Mr Ballen. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Hey man love your channel I can always depend on a few great videos. So I really appreciate it brother.
Thanks so much for the kind words :)
BALL-IN BALL-IN, come on Kabir!
There's no place in South Carolina that you can drive to Jacksonville Florida in 4 hours. I'm 54yo and have never shared a phone. Other than our land line.
It like I'm going balling with my friends shooting some hoops today. But it's OK I think your pronouncing of it is fun.
Hearing this I cried and was so mad
It's Mr Ball-en
Kabir I'm with you on the death penalty. I'm not for it except cases like this one. Too many people before were falsely accursed and not proven innocent until death. When it's so obvious of quilt yes.
I cried at this story
it takes a lot to make me cry...but this broke me
I believe it is B. Allen. He tells some of the most gut wrenching stories
This one infuriated me. How could they be so cruel?
Its john ballen
Only the girl is on death row. The three guys will never get out but there death sentences were vacated for a technicality. There is no hope for us.
This is like one of my worst nightmares! I'm so sorry for them! I can't even imagine! And why?? Why??😪
I watched this on a show called Deadly Women , talk about a honestly horrible girl eh.
The whimpering while under the dirt comment was so unnerving...
My one thing with Mr ballen is he seems to embellish the details for more impact.
It's likely true but the mental imagery is SO dark I don't know if I like it or not.
I'll never be able to get that out of my head.
That one sentence is now what I'll think of when my fear of being buried alive ever comes to mind.
Those poor people.
At least they were together.
A horrible tragedy. I know what it's like to be betrayed and hurt but, these people are pure evil, especially Tiffany. Hell is too good for them.
2:55 coward! 😤
Good to know you know hell exists
I don’t share my phone with my kids lol let alone an adult..
Liked hearing you say "this isn't their 1st rodeo ". Watch out, you're starting to sound like a cowboy lol
if youlove this stuff so much. you should listen to the Podcast " Who's Knocking"
I don't have a partner but if I did I wouldn't share my phone but he could look at it any time he wants as I have nothing to hide ☺️
That’s a great attitude, a lot of people don’t want partners looking through their phones
@@kabirconsiders well I'm honest and don't have to worry about anything I always been 💯% faithful in a relationship
@@kabirconsiders see when a partner has things to hide they mind you casually looking at there phone no point being with someone if you can't be faithful
may i suggest two mrballen videos called "skinwalker ranch" and "the kandahar giant". i think its quite captivating in my opinion i hope you react to it and find it interesting.
In 2017, the death penalty sentence was overturned because their juries had not unanimously recommended the death penalty. Tiffany will have a resentencing hearing in February 2023.
It’s “Ball-in”
His name is pronounced Ball en as in football.
This one is the hardest to listen to.
I actually remember this case back in mid-summer in 2005 because I live in just outside of Jacksonville Florida, all four killers are still alive and in prison the female Tiffany Cole is suppose to get a rehearing on her sentence in a couple of months Feb. 2023. Tiffany is now 41 years old and the victims were 61 and 62 when killed.
These 4 psyopaths need to get the death sentence. How could some people in the jury think they didn't deserve that ! If prisons still have small rooms with no windows where they sit in seclusion, put them in those until they finally decide that they need to die.
@@lesliedaubert1411 Agree, what's wild is that the young woman Tiffany Cole wasn't charged as sentences are harshly because she didn't physically take part in burying the couple alive she just watched as it was being done to them.
@@richardlong3745 If it wasn’t for her, the other three monsters wouldn’t’ve known this couple existed in the first place!! If you ask me, the whole story starts and ends with her. Absolutely evil and despicable, the lot of them
They were resentenced to life.
When i first saw/heard this video i was driving my semi and it brought me to tears on how someone can be this evil. And that picture made me just very angry.
This story is infuriating
If you had watched a min longer you would have found out how to say his name correctly.
When we’re they excuted is there a date yet
This reminds me of Steven Benson, he had been stealing money from his mother for some time, having found him out, she was going to amend her will so he wouldn’t be inheriting the $10 million he was expecting. In retaliation he put a pipe bomb in his car and connected it to the ignition. When Steven, his adopted brother Scott, his mother and sister went to the car, Steven claimed he forgot his tape measure and gave the keys to Scott and went back inside. His sister was the only survivor of the blast other than Steven. It only took six weeks and one day to get the evidence to arrest Steven.
If u like true crime take a look at Bailey Sarian or Christina Randall they are amazing at these stories...and yes there is lots more they are my favorite
Oof. This just ruined my mood today.
me and my bf are 28 years old and we share a phone xD
we really like your videos :D keep the great work :D :D
Monsters.