8 Speed Jeep Gladiator JT / Wrangler JL Transmission Fluid Service & Pan Upgrade
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Tools Needed;
-8mm allen male socket 1/4 inch for check plug
-T30 socket for transpan
-Torque wrench to torque pan
-Fluid Pusher (below)
-Drain Pan
-18mm socket for crossmember
LINKS:
--Fluid Pusher;
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--AMS Oil Fluid (Request Dealer 5572555 William Runs The Facebook Group And Is A Great Resource!) :
www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-oe-fu...
(Need 6-7 quarts)
--PPE Pan: www.northridge4x4.com/part/tr...
@PPEpower
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
1:23 - INFO
2:50 - Crossmember Remove
3:57 - Draining Fluid
5:41 - Gasket Swap
7:38 - O-Ring Lube / Pan Install
8:18 - Fill Procedure
10:29 - Fluid Check Procedure
12:58 - Test Drive
13:24 - Summery / Outro 
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mine is a 2021 jl i did mine it also took 61/2 qts made a big difference in the way it shifts. must have been low from factory. i bought a sheet of exhaust heat shield wrap and installed it on exhaust next to ppe trans pan. it is the new style that's been cut out for exhaust pipe to run under . used a home made vacuum jar hooked up to a a/c service vacuum pump then used a clear 1/8 plastic hose that i stuck into fill hole. sucked every drop of fluid out of pan ,jar was a 1 gallon with metal lid that i soldered some fittings to connect a/c charging hoses
Thanks for the video. It was very helpful.
I just installed the PPE pan on my JLU with a 3.6l gas. I noticed you filled the transmission with a plug on the drivers side. The instructions show the plug on the rear passenger side. I used the rear passenger side and full was adding 5.75 qts.
Nice. Yes I’ve seen the 3.6l gas instructions from that side.
@@WolfOverland any reason you used the driver's side? It looks higher.
I believe the passenger side plug is intended for the 2dr JL @@dougg8280
@dougg8280 more then likely, it's because our giant EPA exhaust is probably blocking the passenger side plug
Diesel (and 392) have 8HP75 with the fill plug on drivers side.
3.6 and 2.0 gas have Torqueflite 850RE with fill plug on the passenger side.
Excellent. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
That’s awesome I was hoping the fill plug on the passenger side wasn’t the only one that one had me irritated lol. Have you had the fuel pump recall done yet if so what did that end up changing. Wondering what they changed on the cp4 to make it better.
Thanks for watching. I’m on the list for the fuel pump recall. Hopefully it’s soon! Not worried about it.
Thanks for the video.
Why not replace the gasket?
How do you service the filter? Do you wash it or replace it?
The filter is replaceable. Ppe sells their filter on the website if you do the ppe pan.
Mopar sells a filter too if you’re doing their factory pan.
As far as the gasket you can reuse it or replace it. It’s like same heavy duty gaskets they use on the front diff. Metal base with a heavy duty rubber seal.
I plan on replacing it when I do the filter in about 60k miles.
Thanks for watching.
This is great for your trans but i am going to put in whatever i can suction out for now ....just bought a 24 compass 2.0 , are those engines reliable if maintained?
Yes.
Great video. How long have you been running Amsoil in the trans? How did you flush the oem fluid out?
Used a fluid pusher. It’s been 15k miles so far no issues
Good job on the vid. The special key for the pan takes a t30 socket?
Yess
Thanks
question when you put it in 2ad gear and give it a little gas doesnt the car need to have the rear wheels off the ground i was going to use ramps to do the job at home in the basement
Yes. Rear tires have to be in the air.
thats what i was thinking thanks for your quick reply@@WolfOverland
Can you powder coat the PPE pan? Looks like the filter may be removable.
@@christiankendall8875 yes. The filter is serviceable. Another perk of this upgrade
Curious ... your link for the fluid pusher is actually an extractor. Do they act as both?
Both
At 8:34 it did you really start it up dry? It looks like you started it up without ANY fluid??
@@Tunaslayer1 lol no.
Is this recommended if I got a code P0735 I’ve cleared it and is been driving okay since
No. This is just maintenance
I was thinking about adding this, but the warranty gets me nervous. If something happens to the trans even for other reason they’ll blame it on the pan filter maybe voiding.
Meh. Swap the old pan back on.
@@WolfOverland Good idea lol! It's going to be a rare chance with how I care for me stuff and use it.
@@Good-luck-Jonathan same. I put off this project for too long.
The trans fluid was definitely due thanks to the old trans fluid I sent out to the lab to have analyzed. The recc due to the way the vehicle is operated. They recc sending another sample at another 40k miles.
I figure if I was going to drop the mopar trans pan and pay all that money for another mopar pan I should just put that to the ppe pan anyway.
@@WolfOverland I'm going to do a drain and fill every 10k. It at 1300miles but thinking to do a filter and drain to clean the wear in metals? The OEM oil is pretty good but I also may switch to Redline Oil or Amsoil. Did you have any shift issues with the Amsoil?
Just found out the OEM ATF is a synthetic blend? Why did they do that ??? It can run very hot in the summer and towing? I will do Amsoil OE like you did if you had no issues with it?
2021 Jeep jl 3.6 transmission pan bolts . Torque spec is 8 to 9 pounds ?
I’ll have to look. Mine is a diesel. Instructions were on their website. I can check for you if you remind me at noon tomorrow by replying on here.
@@WolfOverland ok thank you 🙏
@@WolfOverland If you have time to check tonight, that would be amazing. I really appreciated. Thank you so much
@@Ben-sv9op yep just checked 8-10 foot pounds
@@WolfOverland Thank you so much. I really appreciate it
Love your channel and respect what you do for a living, but what you did in this video is a little confusing and maybe opens the door for a bit of debate. Here are my questions: 1. You stated OEM trans fluid is not synthetic? Is that really true? The whole lifetime trans life is "supposedly" due to the synthetic oil but I agree with the point of changing it at 50 or 60k. 2. You made a note "don't mix fluid" but the reality is you did mix fluid right? What I mean is our transmissions have the oil cooler and temp control valve set up. You didn't state anything about flushing the system so technically you mixed the new fluid with the OEM residual in the trans right? 3. in the video you transitioned from putting oil on the O ring to warming up the engine and didn't show or talk about the fill? Was there something specific in filling that should have been covered? 4. Our transmissions are temp controlled and set to run at the temps we see on the dash (200 degree range)and while I'm old school and agree (and know form past experience with my Old YJ / 3 speed trans and a huge trans cooler that cooler is better) cooler temps make the trans last longer but most Engineering technical data out there sort of proves that it does us no good to add things like trans cooler or cooling pans on our JL's or JT's since it won't have the same effect as in the good old days of basic transmission cooling (pre-emissions stuff). The cooling fins on your new trans pan may help cool the returning fluid going into the pan but it makes no difference since the temp control valve is sensing the fluid temps and making cooling adjustments as needed to keep our fluid in that 200 degree range before returning to the transmission hence the reason there isn't a big aftermarket following of coolers, pans, etc... Have you modified your jeep in some way to compensate for the cooling valve setting? Again, much respect but I'm really curious because as mentioned, I'm old school and have always had trans coolers on my previous vehicles and targeted 175 to 180 and took several of my vehicles including my 2005 hemi powered dodge durango to 287000 miles with ZERO issues before I sold it to buy the wife a smaller vehicle (since our kids are college age and no longer needing to rush to soccer and cheer practice every day lol.) I researched the mess out of this topic 3 years ago when I bought my JLUR and hit dead ends every time with the same thing being told to me by everyone (professionals in the industry) I interacted with. Do you have new "secret" information on that claim being incorrect? 😀
1) the mopar oem transmission fluid is the correct best fluid to use. It is full synthetic. I was mistaken.
I get the amsoil cheap and have it collecting in the shop. It’s cheaper for me to run that since the lab results are really positive.
As for filling the trans after I installed the pan, I just filled the trans from the fill hole untill it started coming out. Then I started the car and added more again. Once the trans was at the temperature required and all the gear changes were completed I checked the fluid level with it running and it was fine.
That temperature check range and gear shifting process is all jeep/mopar procedure from the service manual. Very similar to our honda 10 speed process.
2) I normally use my fluid pusher for gear oil at work. All the honda fluid have their own pump per fluid type too. Did not want to mix gear oil into my transmission from my fluid pusher. So I used a new one for this fluid. Yes it did mix with the oem fluid that is everywhere inside the cooler and trans and lines / torque converter.
3) I wanted a drain bolt on the transmission pan. That was the main reason I wanted to install the pan. Doing the filter every other service makes more sense to me.
Never had cooling issues with the transmission temperature. I’m sure the extra 1.5 quarts help more then the little cooling fins that won’t work if you have skid plates anyway!
Thanks for the feedback!
Man great observations i noticed a two of those myself
@@WolfOverlandrespect on the reply, i can see how skipping some steps may seem confusing to some that are not familiar... maybe a longer video, with an explanation of the filling process but what you showed was pretty clear imo... but for sure, respect for what you do, not critical at all. this vid helps
@@Coyote5555 thanks. Always improving! Next service I’ll have a better camera too. ✌️
@@WolfOverlandthanks brother I own a 2021 overland EcoD at 38K. Your videos are peeeeeerfect for guys like me. Please keeeeep making them!