ZF 8 SPEED FLUID CHANGE AND OPTIONS (SPECS INCLUDED)

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • This video is intended to provide help/info for people who have vehicles with zf 8 speed transmissions. While this video focuses mainly on Chrysler products, it can also be useful for other makes which use the zf transmission. While this video contains my opinion on certain things, any product related data is accurate/truthful to the best of my knowledge.
    My hope is the info will not only save you money, but also give you the ability to make an informed choice. Over time some links might be changed or stop working and I will try to keep it up to date as best I can.
    I realize this video is very long so here is some relevant timestamps
    Start of section 2 fluids - 7:30
    Chart showing fluid specs - 18:15
    Start of section 3 service options - 24:15
    Explanation of thermostatic bypass valve
    with animation - 24:45
    Start of section 4 parts - 29:44
    Showing old pan magnets and fluid - 40:00
    Showing color of fluids after each drain & fill - 45:50
    End review tips and how my grand cherokee is running using valvoline 50 mins - end
    Disclaimer: This video is for entertainment purpose only! I assume no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Use this information at your own risk. Please consult your qualified auto technician to avoid injury, death, car and property damages.
    please find below the links mentioned in the video.
    info about ZF 8 speed transmissions and Chrysler
    www.allpar.com...
    ZF LIFEGUARD 8 SPECS
    aftermarket.zf...
    VALVOLINE MAXLIFE SPECS
    sharena21.spri...
    RAXOL SUPER 9041 ATF SPECS
    www.raxol.eu/e...
    RAVENOL 8HP FLUID INFO - SPECS N/A
    www.ravenol.de...
    MOTUL IV ATF SPECS
    d23zpyj32c5wn3...
    PENTOSIN ATF 8 SPECS
    www.pentosin.ne...
    AMTECOL 8HP SPECS
    d3ciwvs59ifrt8...
    AMSOIL SIGNATURE SERIES FUEL EFFICENT SPECS
    amsoilcontent....
    RED LINE D6 ATF SPECS
    www.redlineoil...
    DORMAN OIL PAN FROM ROCKAUTO
    www.rockauto.c...
    INSTRUCTIONS FOR FLUID LEVEL CHECK PROCEDURE aftermarket.zf...
    ZF LIST OF APPROVED LUBRICANTS CALLED TE-ML
    aftermarket.zf...

Комментарии • 399

  • @DaveNanan
    @DaveNanan 8 часов назад

    Very detailed explanation of the different ZF fluids! I will only use the green ZF fluid when I do the transmission pan/filter, I will only use green ZF fluid! I can't believe how many people are mixing ZF fluid and red dexron type fluid!

  • @makerofmanythings8447
    @makerofmanythings8447 2 года назад +17

    I changed my transmission fluid in my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4 3.6l with Valvoline maxlife ATF at 80,000 miles. No problems yet.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад +3

      If the hundreds of people I've heard from like you are any indication.... you'll never have any problems.

    • @peachyclean93
      @peachyclean93 Год назад

      I just did that to my 200 S How is yours still holding up? My car's at 70,000

  • @meriton1079
    @meriton1079 2 года назад +7

    I just changed pan and fluid on my 2014 chrysler 300. 238k miles. I bought the car with 182k miles and previous owner never changed the fluid. I drove it for 56k miles but not hard and did experience some hesitation when hitting the gas medium to hard. Once i changed it and drove it around, what a difference. Very responsive and much more smoother. I also noticed about 3 to 3.5 qt that came out and i had a 6 quart pump that was nearly empty by the time i filled it back up and topped it off at 110 degrees. So i was probably low on fluid that whole time I had the car from the first owner. I plan on doing another pan and oil change after 20k miles or so. Definitely would recommend changing. 👍✌

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Thanks for watching. Please share video if you get a chance.

  • @wtaylorhudson3702
    @wtaylorhudson3702 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video and good advice. I took a transmission repair course at a local tech school. The removal of the pan at every servicing was stressed for examining the amount of fine metal on the magnets and pan sump. Some minor shiny specs are expected from wear of your steel clutch plates. Also a gray paste may be found as settlement which are you clutch disc fibers. Excessive material, or larger materials, or bronze flags an impending unit failure the customer should know about.
    I serviced my 19 BMW X3 at 50K miles with the ZF bottled fluid. Existing fluid came out almost clear with abnormal wear metals as your appeared. While someone might think I changed it early, disposing of fluid still with life left. To me I changed it at the correct time before the wear prevention properties of the fluid were depleted. This is to prevent any unnessary wear. Fluid also contains seal conditioners which keep the rubber lip seals in the clutch packs and accumulated pliable. These conditioners can be depleted before the fluid starts to darken.
    I did a single drain and fill which took five quarts. 10K miles later unit is still functioning as new.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for all the tips. I've really been wanting to try the amsoil ATF as it has a great reputation. But the cost is very hard to justify as it's more than the lifeguard 8.

    • @wtaylorhudson3702
      @wtaylorhudson3702 5 месяцев назад

      @@jonh2408 you have found the ZF8 fluid at a great price if it is less than Amsoil. I have been an Amsoil user for thirty years.

  • @jazzgill85
    @jazzgill85 2 года назад +8

    I know I'm a bit late to this video. But I must say this is the most in depth video I have seen on this transmission. You are so specific and I love it. Thank you so much. I have learnt some serious valuable information.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад +1

      Thank you... I'll make sue to let you know when I do a follow up

  • @garyjarvis2730
    @garyjarvis2730 8 месяцев назад +2

    I don't own an 8 speed ZF but found your video to be a compelling review of the current dilemma in auto transmission service. You nailed it precisely when you stated the economic relationship totally drives what is and is not recommended for modern fluid applications. The nagging question is why have they engineered units that require such exacting precision when they have to know the average mechanic just hacks away at some of these jobs. I suspect the sealed unit labeling is to keep sloppy and untrained mechanics from doing more harm than good. Luckily modern fluids are up to the task if you don't push them too far. Thanks for sharing your detailed findings.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @richardwilkes1953
    @richardwilkes1953 2 года назад +13

    Jon, I sure do appreciate you sharing your very detailed and convincing information. I feel that I must commend you on this video and to put this into a simple statement this is one of the best DIY video I have ever seen.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @carlsaporiti3518
    @carlsaporiti3518 Год назад +2

    Very well done! I just did my BMW 535i with a new pan/filter from FCP and almost 4 liters of fluid. I am planning on doing 500 miles or so and than doing a fluid only change. Car has 105K miles on original fluid and I notice a significant difference in how much smoother the 8 speed shifts. Transmission was shifting fine but is definitely smoother now.. I used LiquiMoly Top Tec 1800 ATF

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      I wasn't able to find any info on the liquid moly... how much is it and how do you find it?

  • @giloh.1359
    @giloh.1359 2 года назад +13

    This is one of the best videos I've ever seen about ZF transmission.
    Thanks a lot man.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Thanks for watching. Please share the video with others.

  • @andrewbello5017
    @andrewbello5017 3 года назад +5

    Thank you, this is essentially a public service. Genuinely thank you!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching.

  • @gailgrove
    @gailgrove 3 года назад +7

    I have a 2019 Ram 1500. Just passed 100k km and decided to service the transmission. I used all Mopar fluid and pan/filter assembly. Not much more complicated than any other transmission and definitely worth the hour and a half the service took. Whatever fluid you use just make sure it gets serviced, don't listen to the "lifetime fill" bs the dealership will tell you....

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      What did the Mopar pan cost where you live?

    • @mobleyMobley
      @mobleyMobley Год назад

      What does manual say?

    • @gregbloodworth6000
      @gregbloodworth6000 Год назад +1

      Wow thats alot of miles on a 2019...I have a 2014 with barely 97,000 on it.

    • @mobleyMobley
      @mobleyMobley Год назад

      @@gregbloodworth6000 i have a 14 with 150k miles.

  • @RonnyPr
    @RonnyPr 3 года назад +2

    Hi I'm Ronny from Belgium.
    I like your video.
    What I wanted to say.
    The two men with blue overalls are not from ZF, they are very good mechanics from Cologne (Germany) with their own RUclips channel called Die Autodoktoren (the car doctors)
    I'm really impressed with those guys. Real toppers.
    Definitely worth a look. 👍🏼
    Greetings from Belgium

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the info... appreciate that

  • @ROROSMACHINE
    @ROROSMACHINE Месяц назад +1

    As a Retired Ford ASE certified tech, I take very good care of my F150 3.7 ltr ZR 6 speed...
    I flushed the original fluid at 50k miles using Valvoline Maxlife synth ATF, not because it was cheaper, but from spec data and other user input. I have put around 50k on this fluid with absolutely 0 issues, seemed to shift and operate a little cooler and smoother in my opinion..
    I change my atf in the summer time, so the thermostat bypass valve is open in the 75 degree range ,using the torque converter to pump 2-3 quarts at a time (never more than 3 using a container with quart level markings) thru the cooler line connection, topping off the transmission using a garden sprayer pump at max 3 quart intervals... This empties the torque converter with a fresh filter and fluid in the pan, pumping the converter out slowly until you begin drawing the new fluid from the pan, just my 2 cents....Also it would appear that the Valvoline has excellent anti shudder characteristics as well...

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Месяц назад

      @@ROROSMACHINE thanks for the info

  • @dirtygurtie3537
    @dirtygurtie3537 2 года назад +1

    BMW X5 E70 LCi. Many thanks from South Africa. This is how it’s done! Very thorough of you hats-off👍👍👍

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @brarautorepairs
    @brarautorepairs 2 года назад

    Best video I've seen so far on the topic. The fluid is black like coffee which is worrying for a "lifetime" fluid fill. My understanding is that as the clutches wear, the transmission adjusts the clutch on/off time so you can get by without changing the fluid. Once the clutches are completely worn, you toss the transmission out.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching... thats the first I've heard about the clutches.... but could be. I know these transmissions are known for longevity

  • @walterchan1094
    @walterchan1094 3 года назад +3

    Great information applicable for any auto transmission.Thinking of doing the tran dain and fill method at every 50,000kms interval to keep it in good shaped. Looks like measure how many liters drained and refill with the same amount should be sufficient x2. Good point about the ZF plastic drainage plug may break or strip. Alternative option for DIY, use a hand pump to suck fluid out via the fill hole ( for both drainage and fill) similar to the machine pump method you mentioned in your vedio.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Ya thanks for watching... I would highly Recommend the fluid "exchange" machine. It's quick, clean and gets 95% of the fluid. Also worth checking out the $30 replacement pan i mention in the comments... I have read alot of reviews on it now and they have all been good.

  • @DavidMosby
    @DavidMosby 2 года назад

    This is the most informative transmission video ever. I decided for the Valvoline. I bought an aluminum pan for $110 off Ebay. The filter is changeable once the pan is off, but I have no idea what to order. I asked the ebay seller. I imagine that most of the solids in the system come from the first few thousand miles. I don;t know if I will change the filter again. One bit of advice for fluid changes only... Shift into reverse to backflush the filter for 5 seconds, shift to park, and turn off engine.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for the tip... do you have an 8hp70 transmission?

    • @alaind831
      @alaind831 2 года назад +5

      David what makes you think reverse would backflush the filter ? that would imply the pump runs backward rather than some solenoid changing the path....

    • @kowpow2259
      @kowpow2259 5 месяцев назад

      Yes that's a misconception. Whatever fluid is being 'backflushed' is simply traveling through the torque converter. You could just leave it in neutral for the same effect.

  • @antares4141
    @antares4141 3 года назад +2

    By far the best information I was able to find on this subject, Thanks!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @macfunz
    @macfunz 2 года назад +1

    Hello from Belgium !!!
    I hope my english will be good enough ...
    I plan to do the oil and filter change on my 2014 Ecodiesel WK2 (100 000 km) soon.
    Your very detailed investigations helped me deciding ... not to rush into.
    I would first look for a way to properly flush the cooler lines and radiator. Maybe by removing the pipes at the thermostatic vale ?
    And perform both the same day with a pre-fill of the cooler side.
    Of course it needs a complete warm-up to entirely fill the cooler circuit, then recheck the level as per instructions when back to recommended "cold" conditions.
    Regards

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching. If you can find a shop that has an "exchange machine," you don't need to worry about the temp. When I had mine done it worked fine. My vehicle was at full temperature when I got to the shop. So when the exchange started the cooler lines were open. Since they only exchange 1 liter at a time, the introduction of 1 liter of new fluid is not enough to reduce the temperature significantly. Add to that the vehicle is running while the exchange is happening, so that helps it not lose to much temp over the course of the 30 mins service.

  • @jjforsyth3
    @jjforsyth3 2 года назад +1

    The PPE pan was just a bit over $300 (US). I bought a Felpro gasket for it at rock auto which was @ $12 I've already pressed the gasket into the channel around the PPE pan. The PPE pan has a deeper area where the filter sits. There is one round magnet which is @ 1" in diameter in that "deeper section". That's how they get another quart or two in the total capacity. From what I've learned on a doge ram forum is that the ZF transmission needs to be leveled. That is how an accurate fill level is achieved. I got the rear wheels up about 9" to achieve this. I used a torpedo level on the transmission rails until i got it right. Tomorrow I am doing the work. Also getting the old pan out isn't a problem. On some videos the guys loosened the three mounting bolts. then put a jack with a piece of wood under the transmission. They had to raise it about an inch to get the new PPE pan in place. Then removed the jack and tightened the bolts. And of course Chrysler/Dodge designed the original pan drain bolt directly over an exhaust crossover pipe! The PPE pan drain plug in a different place so the exhaust pipe isn't in the way. The replacement filter is @ $36

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Thanks for all the info on the PPE pan. What fluid did you go with, and have you noticed any difference in temps since switching to the aluminum pan?

  • @bensandker2308
    @bensandker2308 6 месяцев назад

    Crazy how much information is in this video... With a little editing you could make videos professionally full time... Awesome vid

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  6 месяцев назад

      Appreciate it, thanks for watching

  • @roberthughvanderwalt6350
    @roberthughvanderwalt6350 3 года назад

    F¥€KING A+ I bought a 2016 Ram 1500 yesterday with 100 000miles on not knowing the dealership can’t service the transmission so just like you I like my stuff maintained. I got everything at O’Reilly’s. Fixing to do it tomorrow before I head out to Florida 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  10 месяцев назад

      Nice, glad I could help

  • @ninodepecho8624
    @ninodepecho8624 3 года назад +4

    In Canada there are people with knowledge. I am happy to live here

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thank you.. if you own a grand cherokee consider subscribing... there will be more WK2 vids coming

  • @stevenfoisy6260
    @stevenfoisy6260 2 года назад

    I am part way through this and was watching to see if the pan had the removable filter, I'm also from Canada and didn't notice they sold the pan with removable filter and just ordered the filter for the updated pan which I obviously can't install. My oil is very dark at 200k so I may recommend to the parents after I fill it that the next time they go for a flush at 300k rather than change the very expensive mopar oil I just bought that is non returnable haha. Very informative video and I wish I had spent a few hours looking online before I pulled the pin thinking I have what I need. Thanks!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Thanks for watching... glad the video helped. Please share it if you can

  • @rickgstock64
    @rickgstock64 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. There is soooo much conflicting information out there, but you presented the facts in writing. Awesome Awesome Awesome video!!!! Thanks you.....

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @1965RonnieP
    @1965RonnieP 9 месяцев назад

    Huge help Jon thank you. Going to be using the PPE aluminum pan on my Ram. I am in the New York area of the USA . I don't have a Great Canadian Oil Change. So I need to figure out how to flush the system if possible. I really appreciate all the data and information you gave us . I know it was quite a bit of work. God Bless you my friend , excellent 👍🏻

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm sure there are oil change places around there that have the same exchange machine. It's hard to imagine something being available in Canada and not the US

    • @1965RonnieP
      @1965RonnieP 9 месяцев назад

      @jonh2408 I'm going to look around, thanks again for your help Jon

    • @evanranshaw4659
      @evanranshaw4659 5 месяцев назад

      I'm considering either obtaining and modifying one of those thermostatic valves to stay open constantly, or buying a bypass kit for them, then temporarily installing that device to allow the flush, then reinstalling the thermostatic valve afterwards.
      I know it sounds like a lot of extra work, but I'd kinda like to be able to flush out ALL the old fluid.

  • @uwebrandt4981
    @uwebrandt4981 3 года назад +1

    Excellent Video. Thanks for creating - it will help people get their mind around this issue that has been clouded with a lot of misinformation.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks... that was the goal...it ended up being alot longer than intended.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thank you... I made another one showing a coolant system flush... check it out if your interested.
      ruclips.net/video/e0_FPyw5Bsc/видео.html

  • @jackbonner336
    @jackbonner336 3 года назад +2

    I will be changing mine soon. The aluminum pan (PPE) interests me for my Ram 1500 3.6v6 w/ 3.21 rear gears. I am not so brave as to use the Max Life just yet, though I use it in everything else. With tall gears, these 8 spds shift alot. Funny, Max Life & Lifeguard 8 smell almost identical! The dark in the ZF is likely friction modifier. Great video!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      If you do try the PPE pan please let me know how it worked out. Total cost, how long it took to arrive and what difference (if any) you noticed in temperatures. I also agree that the fluid "specs" only show a portion of the full picture. Things like friction modifiers and other additives might be be represented in the fluid specs

    • @jackbonner336
      @jackbonner336 3 года назад +1

      I shall let you know, Jon. Again, very nice video. You did alot of legwork. I will let you know on the PPE pan. Keep us posted on your Max life fluid experience. Thanks.

    • @jackbonner336
      @jackbonner336 3 года назад +2

      @@jonh2408 Well, I finally did my pan/fluid on my '18 Ram 3.6 4x4 at 49K mi. Alligator Performance gave me the best deal on a PPE pan for $263. 4.5 qts came out, 6.5 of Lifeguard 8 went in. The factory bolts, spacers & gasket were cleaned and used to install. Lemme know is you have questions. So far, it seems to run about 5-6° cooler than stock.

    • @jaimezapien4897
      @jaimezapien4897 2 года назад

      Nope it's the glow shit they put in it so the insurance company will be able to detect the difference in oils, the zf oil glows in the dark.. that's the only difference between these oils...zf fluid glows in the dark....that's the only difference..it's purely for leaks. To see ..and insurance reasons only

  • @justobey733
    @justobey733 Год назад

    The absolute best video I have seen on service. Thanks so much . I needed this video !!!!

  • @garybittner
    @garybittner 9 месяцев назад

    Great video. For what's it worth, if nobody has mentioned it yet, ZF doesn't manufacture their own fluid - they build transmissions. From my research, Shell makes the fluid for ZF, which explains why Shell sells it in bulk to Audi.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  9 месяцев назад

      So lifeguard 8 is a product of shells?

    • @garybittner
      @garybittner 9 месяцев назад

      @@jonh2408 From my understanding, Shell makes it for ZF. ZF probably provided specs to Shell, and Shell developed the lubricant mix for production originally. Inasmuch, they probably also package it for the manufacturers for resale and use in their shops. This also explains why the Shell product is not being resold under their Quaker State and Pennzoil brands, in deference to ZF and auto manufacturers.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  9 месяцев назад

      @garybittner interesting... thanks for the insight. That also coincides with the product specs being identical for lifeguard 8 and the shell ML - 12108.

  • @wk2yun931
    @wk2yun931 3 года назад +1

    I just changed the oil pan and fluid on my 14 Wk2. Found two big chunks of metal!! Make sure you change your transmission oil!!!! Got a new transmission installed at 100K miles. Now at 168 and it’s starting to kick again. Tried getting the transmission oil changed by the dealer and they didn’t recommend it… that’s bs! there’s no such thing as life time oil.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Was the first transmission change covered under warranty?... I'm not surprised to hear the dealership didn't want to change the fluid. Although some would be happy to do it, and take $1200 from you in the process. I am surprised to hear about your tranny problems as the zf transmissions have a good to great reputation (depending which one you end up with). Is your WK2 a V6 or V8?. Do you do alot of towing? Was there alot of smaller particles on your magnets along with the bigger chunks?

  • @tddworld4780
    @tddworld4780 Год назад

    Red Line Synthetic D6 ATF - Viscosity @ 100° C - 6.4 cSt Viscosity @ 40° C 30.7 cSt Flash Point 249° C - The flash point is extremely high and great for long endurance races. Many positive comments from racers.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Ya I wish red line was easier
      to find in Canada. Seems like a great products.

  • @bhinderbaljeet
    @bhinderbaljeet 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very well detailed and helpful thank you so much for taking time to do it.😊

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @SquatSimp
    @SquatSimp 6 месяцев назад +1

    18:15 What you came for
    Fantastic video! Highly recommend anyone give this a watch when they have the time. Thank you!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @jonh2408
    @jonh2408  3 года назад +3

    just as a follow up.. So was talking to a member in another forum about servicing options for the 8 speed transmissions. He mentioned he had bought a replacement pan for his vehicle for $29. I immediately thought he must be mistaken as i had looked far and wide for pans not long ago for my own GC. In my search I had found some pans online for around $110ca but the reviews on them were terrible. In some cases the gasket looked cheap, or they didn't come with magnets. I was very skeptical and kept thinking (and hoping since i just paid $170 for mine) that he has the wrong pan, or it's gotta be just the gasket...ect. However much to my surprise I was able to find the pan online and it looks identical to the dorman pan i ordered from rockauto. It has the same thick rubber gasket and even appears to have a metal drain plug (rather than a plastic one although it only appears in pic so can't actually confirm that). He says it arrived as ordered and appears to be as described... not flimsy or weak. I just thought I would share the info since the cost of the pan is what makes alot of people think twice about doing a service.
    He is going to follow up after installing it but I'm definitely cautiously optimistic about seeing a pan available in this price range!
    www.ebay.com/itm/68233701AA-Auto-Transmission-Oil-Pan-For-Ram-1500-Chrysler-300-with-8HP70-845RE/264645659904?hash=item3d9e1c4d00%3Ag%3AJrsAAOSwAUBeU2wE

    • @joeroe2839
      @joeroe2839 3 года назад

      Any more info on how it came out , how was the gasket holding up? Did it have all 4 magnets?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      @@joeroe2839 he says it did have all 4 magnets... haven't heard on the gasket.. I think I'll order one myself so I can do a review on it. I mean for 30 bucks not much to lose. My concern is more centered on the filter material... I would like to compare it to the replaceable filter in the dorman pan (from rock auto) I used in my video

    • @joeroe2839
      @joeroe2839 3 года назад

      @@jonh2408 yea true not much to lose lol and yea ur right ima go ahead and order , thing is lost all my fluid in my 14 sport 300 my ac clutch caught my oil cooler line and made a hole in it, so idk how much to put in, also do u think it ve alright if I mix it with the factory z fluid red/z fluid

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      @@joeroe2839 not sure if you had a chance to watch the whole video but before I learned about the exchange machine I did a few drain and fills using valvoline. Using the maxlife with the old fluid was fine in my 8hp70... have also seen alot videos and comments from people who drain out (approx 40 - 50%) their original fluid and refill with an aftermarket one (mostly valvoline or amsoil) and have never heard of a problem....
      BTW if you want to read the detailed report on the $30 pan (including some pics) the forum is called "RAM 1500 DIESEL FORUM" and the post is called $30 replacement pan.

    • @joeroe2839
      @joeroe2839 3 года назад

      Yes sir I went tru the whole vid i was just makin sure or if it would be a problem but yea ima mix it then and go from there thanx u sir and keep up the good work and talkin your time to make em 😎🤛🏼👌🏽

  • @bryanskinner2912
    @bryanskinner2912 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for you research, you rock made me comfortable with the change of my fluid 👊🏾 keep up the great work

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching. There will be a follow up coming soon

  • @rasmuskristensen9094
    @rasmuskristensen9094 2 года назад +2

    I was at a course from ZF at a BMW center. The term "lifetime" is tested for 180.000 km. They recommended changing first time at around 100.000 km. And after that every 60.000.
    Also its way better to flush than to change, since 50% of the additives are are absobed by the 30-40 percent of the old fluid theres still in there.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Interesting, thanks for the info...

  • @MustafaAydemir
    @MustafaAydemir Год назад

    very helpful in all aspects. Thanks a lot. An Audi Q5 in Malaysia with a ZF 8 speed transmission thanks you too :-)

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Appreciate it... thanks for watching

  • @bebececehustle
    @bebececehustle 3 года назад

    Nice work... after watching this I'll be getting the "exchange" done like you did last

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      the exchange is definitely a really good option... fast, clean and cost effective

  • @jdouglas7516
    @jdouglas7516 3 года назад +2

    GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for making this video, it is very detailed and VERY helpful. I've never seen a chart showing all the fluids specs like that.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching... ya you can find stuff online if you dig hard enough.

  • @SquatSimp
    @SquatSimp 6 месяцев назад +1

    Does the Great Canadian Oil Change place with the transmission machine have anything special relative to what Valvoline, Midas, Jiffy Lube ,... (i.e. auto shops in the USA) have to offer? Just trying to make sure if I pay for the service I am getting a better change than what I can do by hand

    • @Michiganmtb
      @Michiganmtb 5 месяцев назад

      Have you found any service chains in the US I’m looking myself. Thanks in advance

  • @irontrev1640
    @irontrev1640 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this wonderful thorough video

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @RAUDIRS7
    @RAUDIRS7 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video. Thank you for your time.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @Michiganmtb
    @Michiganmtb 5 месяцев назад

    For anyone looking for companies in the states that offer the exchange through the fill port. Some jiffy Lubes do have this machine and are willing to do it. Mine shop was aware of the process for jeeps and will do it as long as the jeep is under 100k on the transmission . Getting prices now ✌️

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  5 месяцев назад +1

      Nice. Jiffy Lubes are pretty common so should be easy for most people.

  • @tugrulbey3095
    @tugrulbey3095 3 месяца назад

    A mysterious dharma initiative video from "lost series"

  • @L1ttlepsych0
    @L1ttlepsych0 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for all the info!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @qiweihuang5236
    @qiweihuang5236 6 месяцев назад

    thank you for summing up all your research and share with us

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @ryanreeves70
    @ryanreeves70 6 месяцев назад +1

    Valvoline multi vehicle max is full synthetic..just drain, measure fluid out and replace with same amount every 30k

  • @user-qz6ix7od3b
    @user-qz6ix7od3b Год назад

    my mostly Europe highway driven f25 with ZF 8HP came out of warranty just a bit after hitting 180k km mark, and i changed the oil with zf oem because i felt it started not to switch gears as smoothly as it used to. sadly the smoothness did not recover after changing it 😥 , but still works fine though
    so i urge you guys...change it after the first 100k km if you can, just to be safe. if you do it this often then you won't need a complete flush, ZF maintenance manual even sais a fimple oil drain/change will do it (so no need for the expensive torq converter pressure oil change)

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Sorry to hear it's shifting rough. When you say you changed the oil - did you replace the pan and clear the magnets?... And how much oil did you change... might be worth getting an exchange "not flush" but full exchange done.

    • @user-qz6ix7od3b
      @user-qz6ix7od3b Год назад +1

      @@jonh2408 yes of course, the pan including filter changed. only 5L of oil used though as the tork converter was not flushed. don't get me wrong, it is shifting *almost smooth, I may just be exaggerating a bit 😜 but the car does have now 200k so...with age wrinkles come also

  • @MohammadZmd
    @MohammadZmd Год назад

    Hello Mr. John. I hope you are well. Thank you very much for your video. Mr. John, my job is car service. I have a few questions for you. I would be very grateful if you could guide me. 1. Regarding automatic transmissions, VT and DCT, what is your recommendation for changing the transmission fluid in daily driving conditions, for example, driving in traffic and highways and driving under high pressure? After how many thousand kilometers is the car working?
    2. If a car with 120 or 150 thousand kilometers comes to my garage to change the transmission fluid, is it possible to damage the transmission by changing the transmission fluid?
    3. Regarding cars with working conditions Above, is it possible to change half of the gearbox oil with new gearbox fluid instead of replacing all the gearbox fluid in order to reduce the possible damage to the gearbox?
    4. Usually, in what kilometers of the car's operation is there a possibility of damage to the gearbox oil cooling radiator and coolant infiltration into the gearbox?
    Respect and best wishes.

  • @evilgti2000
    @evilgti2000 3 года назад +1

    Underrated video, thanks for this!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @MrHuntertaylor
    @MrHuntertaylor 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent excellent excellent video sir i commend you on basically writing a technical paper on this transmission!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @karlmartus4619
    @karlmartus4619 3 дня назад

    Can you mix the fluid Amsoil with ZF 8.. doing a trans filter you don’t get it all out

  • @atomikrobot300099
    @atomikrobot300099 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your video helped a ton! Thank you again!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching... there will be a follow up video coming soon.

    • @atomikrobot300099
      @atomikrobot300099 11 месяцев назад

      @@jonh2408 Looking forward to it! I am also in Canada... I have jugs of MaxLife on my shelf for my other family vehicles. Looking forward to hearing how it's been doing in your 8 speed!

  • @abelhernandez7457
    @abelhernandez7457 5 месяцев назад

    Que tan ,este fluido si lo puedo utilizar en una Jeep grand cherokee límited 2015??

  • @cesarmonterosso4901
    @cesarmonterosso4901 3 года назад +3

    Nice video! This matter is truly polemic all around the world - it would be so much easier if the manufacturers followed ZF instructions on their service intervals. I think in a near future we’re going to see lots of broken transmissions due to lack of maintenance - and this will lay down on used cars price and reliability.
    Anyway, the video sections were nicely chosen. Congrats!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      Ya based on forum content it is definitely a divisive topic. Thanks for watching

    • @bonniegoutremout1469
      @bonniegoutremout1469 3 года назад +1

      @@jonh2408 If I do just a filter change and refill with the maxlife on my 2017 Ram (8HP70) with 155,000 miles will it hurt to mix the maxlife with the ZF Lifeguard 8 fluid?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      @@bonniegoutremout1469 It didn't affect my vehicle mixing the fluids. I'd highly recommend checking around for a shop that has an "exchange machine" if you want to get all new fluid.

  • @glenk2254
    @glenk2254 3 года назад

    I have a lifetime warranty on my Ram. I guess I could just let the fluid go until the transmission had issues but I like you are reluctant to do that. But when I do change the fluid, I should stay with Lifeguard 8/Mopar or a fluid that looks very similar.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      Wow... lifetime warranty... I didn't know that was even an option. It certainly isn't in canada... sounds great though

  • @Trebior1
    @Trebior1 3 года назад +1

    a couple oils missed was the Gulf western SYN-TS and Penrite BMV ATF oils

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for info.... I didn't know pentrite made a low viscosity fluid and I've never heard of the other one. Who makes Gulf western?

    • @Trebior1
      @Trebior1 3 года назад +1

      @@jonh2408 Gulf Western is Aussie owned. They make their own fluids

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      @@Trebior1 ok... whats the price per liter of there fluid?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Also are you sure it's compatible with the zf 8 speed transmission?... when I looked up the product it lists the zf 6 speed and some others but not the zf 8 speed.

    • @Trebior1
      @Trebior1 3 года назад

      @@jonh2408 hmm I looked at the data sheet for gulf western. And it didn't specify it. But the fluid properties look good. When you search it on the Gulf Western Fluid finder it specifies that. Can pick up a 4L for $15 or 20 for $115

  • @colinreid7305
    @colinreid7305 3 года назад +1

    Top class information and great presentation. Perhaps you can explain how a multi vehicle ATF
    can conform to the 19 Mercedes specifications.
    The same multi vehicle claims to confirm to 6 Hyundai specifications. Hyundai service bulletins state that only two of the fluids listed are backward compatible. What is your take on this.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Well I can't speak to specific Hyundai vehicles. But I will say the ZF 8 speed transmission is one of the most widely used on the market. Dozens of models across several manufacturers use it (or a closely related version of it). So if you have a fluid that meets the spec for the ZF 8 speed, then that fluid will cover dozens of different cars. It's important to remember that car manufacturers want to maximize profits. So if they can re-brand (or re-blend) their own version of lifeguard 8 and sell it for a much higher price, they will. And of course their going "discourage/diswaid" you from buying elsewhere. When I asked my local Jeep dealership if I should use Lifeguard 8 fluid, they told me "no, you should only use mopar 8&9 speed fluid". The girl on the phone had no idea that the transmission was made by ZF, no idea that lifeguard 8 was actually the fluid recommended (not to mention the exact same thing as mopar 8&9).. she just knows what she's supposed to tell me as a Chrysler employee.

  • @user-qz6ix7od3b
    @user-qz6ix7od3b Год назад

    just a small correction, at 7:03 the guy actually said in german "Einhundert Zwanzigtausend km" which means "120.000 km" , translation is just bad there at least

  • @johngranato2673
    @johngranato2673 Год назад

    In the US, at least, many shops are getting away from flushes--allegedly for fear of damaging a transmission.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Ya the fear of dislodging/relocating debris into the mapping ducts. Personally i think this happens VERY RARELY. If you consider the number of flushes done every year compared to the number that result in problems its miniscule. I think in most cases, someone who has never serviced their transmission starts getting rough shifts or some other symptom. In an attempt to solve the problem, they decide to now do maintenance they should've done long ago. The transmission fluid with high mileage has more metallic debris than normal due to lack of changing it ever. By removing this debris the plates slip easier because the new "clean" fluid has less friction. Or the flush pushes/pressures debris into ducts causing harsher shifts. The customer leaves angry thinking the service was a waste of time and just made things worse. But the real problem is fact they never did any maintenance. Bad news travels fast and the person blames the service. But my guess would be this actually happens less than 1% of the time

    • @johngranato2673
      @johngranato2673 Год назад

      @@jonh2408 I agree. It's like quitting smoking after decades and then complaining when you can't fully regain lung function. Thanks, brother.

  • @Switzerlandboy420
    @Switzerlandboy420 3 года назад +1

    Damn all this information is mind blowing!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +2

      Lol... they definitely make it more complicated than it needs to be

  • @meandmy66
    @meandmy66 2 года назад

    Jon, "Thank you so much for the video!" On mark!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @patrickthompson389
    @patrickthompson389 Год назад

    What an education. Thanks for making this amazing & concise content. Subbed!

  • @alexg5531
    @alexg5531 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you sir for your time its very helpful

  • @richardcollins7351
    @richardcollins7351 4 месяца назад

    If the transmission is sealed where do they place the fluid exchange machine suck fill tube?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  4 месяца назад

      So the term "sealed" is just wording used by the car company to discourage people from playing around with it. Essentially it just means there's no dipstick for checking fluid level. But there is still a fill and drain plug located under the car.

  • @elleryjalani1172
    @elleryjalani1172 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video. Very informative👍👍

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      THANKS FOR WATCHING... GLAD YOU FOUND IT HELPFUL

  • @JK-br9lh
    @JK-br9lh 2 года назад +1

    Can you post the link for the zf service manual you had open or send me the ZF PDF ? I have a ZF 8HP75

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      It's in the description

  • @Channel23ish
    @Channel23ish 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did anyone find a shop in the US that will do this fluid exchange like the on in Canada mentioned in this video? Calling around, I can't find anyone what will touch it, even if I bring them the oil.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  7 месяцев назад +1

      I must admit that question surprises me. It's not often you here about a product or service you can get in Canada but not the states. Lol, usually it's the other way around!

    • @Michiganmtb
      @Michiganmtb 5 месяцев назад

      After some calling around I found Some jiffy lubes offer this service here in the states

  • @mohdanshasi5499
    @mohdanshasi5499 4 месяца назад

    Excellent Video. Thanks for creating, I am writing to seek your advice regarding my Jeep Grand Cherokee 2020. Currently, my vehicle has covered 83,000 kilometers, and the existing warranty is set to expire at 100,000 kilometers or in September 2025. I am considering extending the warranty to 200,000 kilometers or until September 2027.
    However, I am facing conflicting information from my dealership in Qatar. They assert that the transmission oil is considered “lifetime,” and any replacement would fall under my responsibility. On the other hand, I reached out to Jeep Chrysler in the United States, and they assured me that changing the transmission oil would not impact my warranty.
    Despite this assurance, I am aware that this verbal confirmation is not an official guarantee, especially since I will be signing a responsibility paper with my dealership regarding the transmission oil change. This situation has left me feeling uncertain about the best course of action.
    I kindly request your guidance on how to proceed. Should I adhere to the dealership’s stance, or can I confidently replace the transmission oil without jeopardizing my warranty? Your insights would be greatly appreciated.

    • @mohdanshasi5499
      @mohdanshasi5499 4 месяца назад

      also there is an update on this document (List of lubricants TE-ML
      )11aftermarket.zf.com/remotemedia/lol-lubricants/lol-en/lol-te-ml-11-en.pdf "ZF
      recommends an oil change after 150,000 km for its transmissions. In operating conditions with high temperatures and loads, or
      with unknown vehicle use in the past, it can make sense to change the transmission oil at shorter intervals."

  • @johnforsyth8414
    @johnforsyth8414 2 года назад +1

    Do you have a link to that video showing the ZF technicians talking about the servicing of the transmissions? I don’t see any link to it on the list. Thanks!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/D0f3AYoE3cI/видео.html

  • @markc7551
    @markc7551 3 месяца назад

    Awesome video. Thanks.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @fengdeng1982
    @fengdeng1982 Год назад

    thanks for all the info sharing and it is very useful.

  • @steveb319
    @steveb319 Год назад

    Very good video. Thanks for taking the time.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching... there will be an update video coming soon

  • @JmanRx81
    @JmanRx81 3 года назад

    This was so informative. Please do a video for Mazda's FZ ATF!

  • @MrDextermorganmiami
    @MrDextermorganmiami 2 года назад +1

    First of all thanks for the great video , the best about ZF 8 so far , I have a Ram 1500 2015 did a flush with the special machine with 130k in some special transfer Service ( live in Europe ) couldn’t find Ram dealer 2 years ago , now I have 205 k km on my ram and month ago started the shifting really bad , temperature is ok it’s not getting hot at all ,called the service again and asked wich oil they’ve used they said Ravenol because i didn’t asked for the lifeguard 8 from ZF , due the Covid i’m not able to travel to the Service back , but yesterday i’ve found on ebay kit with 7 litres of the ZF 8 oil and the pan , can’t find any servise with this flush machine where I live now , do you thing it’s gonna be ok if I just change the pan and oil without flushing the tran ? is it gonna help ? or It can go bad if the ZF oil mixes with the Ravenol ? any ideas ? thanks for help
    take care

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Well if it ran fine on the Ravenol for that long.. I would think it unlikely that it caused the problem. Maybe look around and see if you can find a local oil change place with the other type of flush machine (like in the video). I mixed my fluid with the maxlife and it ran fine.

    • @MrDextermorganmiami
      @MrDextermorganmiami 2 года назад

      @@jonh2408 hi thanks for the answer, found one , filter 900 USD , oil 1liter 89 USD , and changing the oil they want to charge me another 1500 USD live in Switzerland it’s crazy the prices here , so i’m ordering the original ZF8 kit with the pan and 7 litres of oil for 230 USD form ebay and ask the local Service just to change the pan and oil and see what is gonna happen hope it’s gonna help
      take care

  • @dr-mn7ld
    @dr-mn7ld Год назад

    ZF recommends 100,000-150,000km services at the most, for severe duty use. That's really all you need to know. No idea where people get figures like 20,000 miles from.

  • @frankposterello1628
    @frankposterello1628 9 месяцев назад

    Some really great info on this debated topic. Curious how that replacement machine works... seems like it would still end up just mixing like your drain and fill process does. They don't drop the pan even?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  9 месяцев назад +1

      I will be going for my next change soon and will make a video at the shop. But no, they don't drop the pan. I think the reason it works so well is they use 15 liters of new fluid and the capacity of the system is around 7 liters. So they pump twice as much new fluid through as it could hold. I probably had some advantage because when I got mine done I had done 3 drain and fills already, so the fluid was already much newer/cleaner from the start.

  • @dougwatson6406
    @dougwatson6406 3 года назад +1

    Great video Jon I did my own last year on my 2016 Dodge Charger Scatpack at 113K. My question about Great Canadian Oil Change is if you bring them your own oil how much is needed for the full flush and does it get all the oil out? Have you had any issues since changing to the Valvoline?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +2

      They used 15 liters when they flushed mine and it was very clean when they were done (as you saw in the video). The capacity of the entire system is around 8.7 liters. When I brought mine in there I had already done 3 drain and fills so my fluid was already somewhat "cleaner" than original. How much impact that fact had on the end result I can't say, but given that 15L is twice the total capacity I'd say it would come out pretty clean. It's still running fine with the maxlife... when I do the next fluid change (at 150,000 km's) I will send a sample to Blackstone and see what the report is on Valvoline with 50,000 km's on it

    • @dougwatson6406
      @dougwatson6406 3 года назад

      @@jonh2408 Thanks for the info Jon

  • @myfastcars
    @myfastcars 2 года назад

    Dude,, You rock! GREAT REVIEW!!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks... appreciate it

  • @johnfeliu6635
    @johnfeliu6635 10 месяцев назад

    Jon, I never make comments on the youtube. But for you I'll make the exception. Fantastic job. A wee longwinded but needed to be. Wife just picked up a 17 Pacifica and need info on tranny fluid change. Her's is a 9 speed but I believe same things apply. How's your Jeep doing? Again, thanks for all your hard work and research. I have a hard time believing Chrysler is telling folks Lifetime no service. Sounds like a crock of shite to me.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  10 месяцев назад

      Appreciate the friendly word. The jeep is doing great. I'm at 170,000 km now so will be doing a follow up video showing the machine that does the "exchange" soon

  • @jjforsyth3
    @jjforsyth3 2 года назад

    this was very comprehensive and very good! Thanks. I am planning on changing my oem pan to the PPE aluminum pan on my 2015 dodge ram 1500 with the 5.7L By the way do you know of any American shops that do that fluid exchange?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      I don't... but if the fluid exchange machine is available here in Canada, then it would surely be available in the US. I'm curious to know what the filter setup on the aluminum pan is like, whether it has 4 magnets. If you could let me know what the pan cost you and how hard it was to find a gasket for it. And if what difference (if any) you noticed about your operating temperature, I'd appreciate it. And thanks for watching

  • @ciprianorivera8063
    @ciprianorivera8063 2 года назад +1

    Great informative video!

  • @ramecodiesel8271
    @ramecodiesel8271 3 года назад +4

    I have to laugh at the 45 minute mark where it says to check the fluid once a month or every two weeks. Maybe if they included a dipstick that would be feasible but having a plug on the side of the transmission under the vehicle there is no way anyone is going to check the fluid.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      Sorry I don't remember saying that... im aware there is no dipstick so definitely wouldn't advise checking it

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      oh.. i see you mean the page on the screen...lol... ya that was not a zf or mopar page... it was just a general info page about how heat affects transmissions...

  • @SuezInsertS
    @SuezInsertS 2 года назад

    Good test, very good video. Congratulations from Spain. Mi car: BMW F10 520d whit ZF 8HP50Z. Flush its essential.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @matte578
    @matte578 3 года назад

    Great Video Jon, from a fellow Canadian and hobby mechanic. After all of that, sounds like Great Can Oil change is the way to go :)
    Any complaints with the Valvoline yet, or does it seem to be good?
    Again, Thanks for taking the time and thorough vid!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад +1

      Ya thanks for watching... ya the valvoline is still running fine. I know alot of people rave about how much "better" or smoother it shifts with valvoline. I didn't notice any difference in that regard. I did notice it takes alot longer to reach 93 C (which seems to be the temp it runs at). This would indicate ( to me at least) that the original fluids ability to absorb heat was definitely impacted. I see now lots of good reviews on that $30 pan i mentioned in the comments

    • @matte578
      @matte578 3 года назад +2

      @@jonh2408 Thanks for the Reply! That about settles it then.. take it in for a Valvoline flush... :)
      That'll be a lot easier than I had anticipated this was going to be, esp getting a FULL flush! Have a great weekend!

  • @johnstuart3851
    @johnstuart3851 2 года назад

    It is most likely that Shell ATF L12108 is the OE manufacturer of ZF Lifeguard 8 ATF. ZF Lifeguard 8 ATF is not manufactured by ZF. I believe the actual OEM for this ZF ATF is Shell.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Your probably right, I was unable to confirm any info in my online research, and the shell guy who emailed me the info wouldn't comment on relationships with other companies

  • @luganova4574
    @luganova4574 3 года назад

    The OEM, Original ZF pan I got from Autopartway doesn't have any magnets. Only the pan, filter and a set of screws.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Well then it's not an oem pan

    • @luganova4574
      @luganova4574 3 года назад

      @@jonh2408 The part IS original, made in Germany.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      @@luganova4574 well the ZF pans come with magnets... so not sure what to make of that

  • @ericsivilla4091
    @ericsivilla4091 Год назад

    Jon, I have a 2020 Dodge Challenger 6.4 with a ZF 8 HP, I drive spirited and go to the track approx 1 to 2 x per month. Wich fluid in your opinion is the best quality and performance. I'm thinking Amsoil, or Redline. I'm also interested in getting the Aluminum pan. I'm in Miami Florida and need the extra cooling. Right now I'm at 30k and plan to do this at 35k or sooner. Also does the Aluminum pan have the 4 magnets, and exchangeable filter ? Also are the viscosity with the Amsoil or Redline the same ?
    Thanks for the great video. Extremely informative.
    Oh yeah , and if you can recommend a better fluid for my ZF brand LSD Differential that came with my car. The Mopar fluid cost $40.00 Dollars per quart. Takes 1.7 on the diff, if I remember correctly, and I'm sure it's not as good as Redline or Amsoil.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      So I went with the valvoline on mine because of the amount of reviews/reports of people having used it. Also because I don't do much heavy towing or demanding driving. That being said my second choice would be the amsoil. It isn't much cheaper but the limited amount of reviews I was able to find on it were all positive. With the track racing and just general driving style on that kind of vehicle I think its worth the investment. I might suggest asking around to other chrysler/dodge guys at the track (challengers/trackhawks/demons) what there general consensus is. Find out what they've been using. I'll look into the diff fluid as I've never thought about that one before.

  • @fedism
    @fedism 3 месяца назад

    so the 2012 bmw has the same transmission, i was also eyeing Valvoline, same trans but on different maker shouldnt be an issue?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 месяца назад +1

      It's been fine on my grand cherokee, still running great

  • @b_gobo
    @b_gobo 2 месяца назад

    How did you do the procedure with moving through the gears on ramps? The video's I've seen with people following the procedure include the wheels turning and getting it into 2nd gear.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 месяца назад

      You can manually select 2nd gear (at least on my GC) and the directions online from ZF don't say anything about that. I know what your referring too as I saw several people doing that as well when doing my research for the video. I'm not sure where people got those instructions from (possibly from dodge) but I followed the ones from ZF, which just says to go through all the gears P, R, N, D - 1ST & 2ND. It doesn't say anything about actually needing the wheels to turn. So I just kept foot on break and went into each gear for 10 seconds

    • @b_gobo
      @b_gobo 2 месяца назад

      @@jonh2408 Good to know, thanks.

  • @Forged407
    @Forged407 Год назад

    Excellent Video, Thankyou

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @josephellsworth3779
    @josephellsworth3779 Год назад +1

    How has it been running with the aftermarket fluid?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад +1

      Good am currently driving from Vancouver to Fort mcmurray and running great. 159k now so will be changing fluid soon Will make an update video and send sample to Blackstone

    • @everythin1339
      @everythin1339 Год назад

      Good to know, waiting for the video:)

  • @joebryant5793
    @joebryant5793 3 года назад +1

    Great vid!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thank you... I made another one showing a coolant system flush... check it out if your interested.
      ruclips.net/video/e0_FPyw5Bsc/видео.html

  • @jamestunacao2183
    @jamestunacao2183 3 года назад

    Thanks for this useful info bud... good job!

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Glad you found it helpful.... thanks for watching

  • @riology2234
    @riology2234 3 года назад

    Quite informative! Thank you

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @911leoni
    @911leoni 3 месяца назад

    I have a 2020 Jeep Gladiator 8 speed auto. Mopar recommends to use the "Mopar 8 & 9 Speed ATF" for the Transmission fluid change and "Mopar ATF + 4" for the transfer case fluid change. Is there even a difference between the two ? Can I just use the "ATF + 4" for both the transmission and the transfer case. The "8 & 9 Speed ATF" is like $33 but the "ATF + 4" is $10. I'm pretty sure they're both the same thing basically. Thoughts ?

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  3 месяца назад

      No they are definitely NOT the same. But you can use valvoline maxlife which is much cheaper

  • @WeSRT4
    @WeSRT4 2 года назад

    Thank you very much! Maybe I missed it but exactly how much fluid should I put back in the transmission after replacing the pan. 2017 Grand Cherokee Laredo....

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Put back in the same amount you drained out... also there are instructions online for checking the fluid level properly.

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      The link for the instructions is in the description (hopefully still working)

  • @chris323i
    @chris323i 2 года назад

    Great analysis

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @marcomoya6599
    @marcomoya6599 2 года назад

    Great Video!!!!.....thanks!!!!.....i think ill do drain and fill twice....

    • @jonh2408
      @jonh2408  Год назад

      Thanks for watching. Please share video if you can