Paleo Cave Art Mysteries: A Three-Part Series: Episode Two

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Dive into Paleo Cave Art Mysteries with popular science host and author Neil Bockoven in this three-part documentary series. In addition to showing the beauty of these ancient images, we'll get into the science and stories behind the art. What and where is the oldest art? Who made it, and what did it all mean?
    We'll show how some of the art probably represents the oldest writing in the world, and why - unfortunately - we've come to believe that the bulk of paleo art has been destroyed.
    You'll also see how some of what remains shows the very first images of volcanoes, landscapes, hunting instructions, stars, and directions for rituals - sometimes involving hallucinogens!
    Also, why viewing these mysterious images painted and etched on cave walls is such an emotional experience for so many people.
    And how cave art from different eras has been found in thousands of locations all over the world -- created by our ancestors and other earlier human species -- and why many of the images and symbols used by these ancient artists are so astoundingly similar.
    Neil Bockoven is an award-winning PhD geologist, journalist and the author of the historical fiction “Moctu” series - Moctu and the Mammoth People (October, 2020) and The People Eaters (July 2022) - as well as a children’s science book titled When We Met Neanderthals (2019).
    His popular first video series, Paleo Human Mysteries, is a four-part documentary that examines some of the greatest mysteries surrounding our early ancestors. Did we interbreed with Neanderthals and other archaic human species? And why did we survive, while they did not? Based on Neil’s exhaustive research, the series delves deep into the Paleolithic era and the interactions of paleo humans and explores the most recent discoveries being made through archaeology and paleogenetics.
    All media in this video is purchased or displayed with permission from copyright owners, or it is fair use or from creative commons.
    If I failed to give proper credit or you do not want your images displayed here, please message me on Facebook, and I will give credit or immediately remove at your request. Much of the media displayed in this video is protected under FAIR USE for reasons of Commentary, Education, Criticism, Parody, and Social Satire.
    Credits for Paleo Cave Art Mysteries:
    Neil Bockoven
    Executive Producer, Scriptwriter, Host
    Scott Busby / The Busby Group
    Producer, Script Editor
    Anthony Tamayo
    Director of Photography, Editor
    Daniel Bael
    2nd Camera, Sound
    For more information about Neil Bockoven and his books, visit his website: www.neilbockov...
    Join Neil on Facebook to learn more about paleoanthropology, archaeology, geology, and paleontology at: / authorneilbockoven
    For media inquiries, please contact Scott Busby at scottb@thebusbygroup.com or 310.439.9400
    Special thanks to Genevieve von Petzinger for her review and comments. Check out her book: The First Signs: Unlocking the Mysteries of the World's First Symbols.

Комментарии • 98

  • @-LSTR-
    @-LSTR- 8 месяцев назад +9

    I remember being in Font de Gaume getting emotional from the paintings and the atmosphere inside.
    I just started crying and I still dont know why, I didnt understand the tourguide since the tour was in French

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад +1

      YES! It can be almost overwhelming! Thx for commenting.

  • @figgiefigueroa7372
    @figgiefigueroa7372 2 месяца назад +2

    I just got here algorithms brought me in .
    Love the channel!!!!!!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for commenting! Glad you're liking the videos.

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 8 месяцев назад +6

    Cave art is so amazing. I’ve always been fascinated imagining what their world view was like. The animals are often drawn with such lifelike details, but human images are always suggested rather than detailed. I’m wary of modern people trying to say what images from the past might mean with any certainty. We cannot even comprehend the mindset, thinking patterns and world view of people so far removed from ourselves whose lives were very different than our own. I do enjoy speculating though, on how certain symbols appear in very different times and geographic places. It calls to mind Jung’s “collective unconscious”. Looking forward to the next video!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your interesting comments. Glad your liking the videos!

    • @stuartwray6175
      @stuartwray6175 8 месяцев назад

      'We can't comprehend the mindset of people so far removed from ourselves' - I'm not so sure: Aborigines, Amazonian tribes, Native Americans, etc.

  • @joed1950
    @joed1950 8 месяцев назад +11

    Chauvet Cave, how wonderful! The 4 horse heads. the foot prints of a youngster and their dog--incredibly beautiful.
    Thank you for this wonderful video and we here look forward to the next.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад +1

      So glad you liked it! I love Chauvet. Thx for commenting!

    • @eveadame1059
      @eveadame1059 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@neilbockoven7254 Ever since I was a young child, I dreamed of living in a cave.When I first saw a picture of this cave's artwork. I wanted to paint them in my own cave.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      @@eveadame1059 Yes, the pictures are really beautiful aren't they? Thx for commenting!

  • @lessismore4470
    @lessismore4470 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks a lot. Greetings from Opole, Poland. Looking forward to the third episode.

  • @daeDend
    @daeDend 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, some really cool stuff about Chauvet cave. Keep the videos coming!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  7 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked the video! Episode 3 should be out in March.

  • @edwardd.484
    @edwardd.484 8 месяцев назад +2

    The interesting thing about art is that anyone can interpret whatever is reflecting in their own lives and beliefs.
    This is why we can have different interpretations of art without there being a right or wrong.

  • @bethbartlett5692
    @bethbartlett5692 8 месяцев назад +3

    ((Subscribed)
    I have a Passion for this subject! Really enjoying, it is just delicious yo observe.
    🔹"I appreciate that you dont ignore content that may stretch your Academic Paradigm." 🔹
    🔺 That's a Breath of Fresh Air!
    "Authentic Academics" merely Follow the "Standards of Science and Research": "with Mind fully Open, free of Fears and free of predetermined Beliefs, Theories, Opinions, and allowing the Research Methodologies to extract the greater findings."
    ... Explore, Discover, and allow the Facts to unfold.
    Really good presentation of the contrnt. I look forward to the remainder of your Cave Art Series. I hope there way more of this subject to come.
    ... and in 40+ minute doses.
    Best Thoughts ...
    Beth Bartlett
    Sociologist/Behavioralist
    and Historian
    Artist too ...
    PS: I have heard many of the symbols referred to as:
    Dingra Codes (not certain of the correct spelling used for this) but many of these Codes seem to traverse the world.
    There's no question that the History Books fall short in their accurate conception of our Ancient Ancestors, "I've no doubt they traversed the oceans. The Phoenicians, (of Basque Orgin), the Basque, which includes the Irish and Welsh, the Egyptians, People of the areas of Sumer to N India, Norse, and the people of China, Eastern Asia, Native Americans and Polynesians.
    DNA helps to identify, thus supports this subject.
    A worthy resource:
    David Reich, PhD, Geneticist, Harvard, "DNA Mapping of Ancient Migrations".
    His works discovered that the "All Out of Africa Theory" is not really accurate.
    He repeated the data 3 times, "Peer Reviewed" and "Journal Published".
    A most ethical Researcher.
    It inspires me to observe the Higher Minded behaviors of Ethics in Academia.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for subscribing! I like your comments. Glad you are liking the videos! Best, Neil

  • @LM-lv6fv
    @LM-lv6fv 6 месяцев назад +1

    Look forward to the next one 👍🏼Excellent work

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Laura - glad you're enjoying the videos!

  • @jamesleonard2870
    @jamesleonard2870 8 месяцев назад +4

    Great series . I’m really digging it 🌊🏄‍♂️🪷

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks James - really glad you're liking the series! Thx for commenting.

  • @scottdion3186
    @scottdion3186 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great work Neil, very nice presentation. Subscribed!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much Scott - glad you're liking the videos!

  • @karphin1
    @karphin1 8 месяцев назад +3

    I too love cave art! Thanks so much for this fascinating video!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked the video! Thx for commenting!

  • @MsDcameron
    @MsDcameron 8 месяцев назад +1

    YES!!! Thank you for this video! I am an artist, and Chauvet Cave has sent me on a journey of artistic discovery I will happily never return from. It all started with those foot and paw prints.
    I'd give almost anything to see the real thing in person, and I realize there's very little chance of that happening.
    Thank you so much for your work on this video!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks - I love Chauvet too!

    • @MsDcameron
      @MsDcameron 8 месяцев назад

      @@neilbockoven7254 ❤🐾

  • @taybak8446
    @taybak8446 5 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful speech!

  • @WallaceLivingFree
    @WallaceLivingFree 8 месяцев назад +4

    thank you

  • @gemwise1000
    @gemwise1000 8 месяцев назад +3

    I visited Chauvet, or, rather, the facsimile, two summers ago. That was a disappointment. 15-minute tours with another right behind meant you spent almost no time in the exhibit. From there, 500 miles west, we visited the caves around Les Aziz de Tayac including the Chauvet facimiles. Very much enjoyed your video.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Sorry to hear about the disappointing visit to the Chauvet facsimile, especially since I plan to see it sometime down the line. Thanks for the kind words about the video - glad you liked it!

    • @gemwise1000
      @gemwise1000 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@neilbockoven7254 Well, perhaps the tour lengths have been modified. Let's hope!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      @@gemwise1000 Yes, as I recall, they spent $54M on making it, so maybe they're pushing people through it to try to get some return on their investment!

  • @greghoosier7553
    @greghoosier7553 8 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent. Thank you. More please.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks Greg - glad you're liking the videos!

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen 8 месяцев назад +3

    great video and message Neil - thank you

  • @DavidLynchScaresMe
    @DavidLynchScaresMe 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love this series you're creating and cant wait for episode three.
    I've been fascinated by the Chauvet cave art ever since I saw the documentary Cave of Forgotten Dreams (2010) by Werner Herzog. Have you seen it? It makes me so emotional, I cant really explain it.
    I had a question about the child and wolf footprints. How can we be sure that the child and wolf walked together and not many years apart? How can we know that the wolf was domesticsted snd not stalking the child for it's dinner?
    Anyway - Thank you for all the time you have spent carefully creating this series. Greetings from England ❤

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your kind comments - I'm glad you're liking the videos! Yes, I've seen the Herzog film, and I really liked it. For the footprints, when the youth and wolf-dog paused together, ashes and charcoal fell into their footprints.

  • @djacs0313
    @djacs0313 5 месяцев назад +1

    Another outstanding video! Fascinating to see the different symbols and how so many of the same ones seemed to be used all over the world by different peoples. It really does make you wonder.

  • @Invading-Specious
    @Invading-Specious 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you🖐

  • @bltjonesthejonestones3697
    @bltjonesthejonestones3697 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff! In my youth, I found cave art boring and irrelevant. One day, a toggle switch flipped and I fell in love with this stuff. Thanks for these interesting and informative vids.

  • @samg6238
    @samg6238 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was waiting for this! Did not disappoint :) excellent video

  • @LorettaHale6321
    @LorettaHale6321 8 месяцев назад +3

    That was so worth the wait! As a first nation member of Australa as well I sat up quick when i heard cave paintings then the part about that brilliant lady's book about the same symbols around the world my very first was yeah our ancestors (the spirits) told us that...and then the part about that dude getting shunned because he said that was all thanks to (our "magic men") shamans. Well, I sat back triumphantly!! Of course I'm right. And I'll get to denial in a minute! But firstly as soon as I saw the hand print on the cave wall my hand instinctively reached out to touch it on the phone. Idc what anyone says THAT hand was the hand of MY ancestor. I know I felt it straight away. And everything about your story resonated in my soul but alas with a tinge of sadness amd joy. Not for my lineage but for the rest who have lost touch with the spirit world as therefore have lost a great part of themselves that they will never know. MY People have never stopped. That's the difference. I am one of the Ancients. My people were the first and I won't be surprised thanks to our magic which we keep safe...if we will be the last too. When you said that old Chinese line "when the pupil is ready..." Well I know it off by heart so I finished it off for ya by saying "the teacher will come!" Then I was thinking HA, come to Australia mate and we'll prove it. I think my ancestors told me that cos i felt it. Then you said you were coming to Austalia. I damn near fell out of my chair! Yeah they still surprise me too! Haha. Anyywaaays. The part about that poor dude being shunned. And denial. Well it's funny how history has proved that it's always the one with the most outlandish theories that girs against all grains that are usually right. Everyone was dead set sure that Chris Columbis was gonna sail clean off the face of the earth at one point cos the earth was supposed to flat remember! Makes me laugh. Like people still DENYING ufos and ghosts. (Spirits who are trying to get the point across!). Haha. Well here's an old proverb line that MY Ancestors have always taught me which I hope you will all remember. *roughly translated it means*
    LYING will not kill. But DENIAL will.
    Can't wait to see you in Australia mate. 🦘👣

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thx Loretta for your very nice comment - glad you liked the video!

    • @ZeldaZonk-zt8fr
      @ZeldaZonk-zt8fr 8 месяцев назад +1

      C'est d'la bonne, ce que tu sniffes, dis donc !

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      @@ZeldaZonk-zt8fr Merci!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  7 месяцев назад

      @@ZeldaZonk-zt8fr Merci je pense ?!

  • @davideleazar5721
    @davideleazar5721 8 месяцев назад +1

    buen vídeo, profesor
    espero la tercera parte con ansias

  • @bardmadsen6956
    @bardmadsen6956 8 месяцев назад +2

    You convinced me to buy her book, I didn't agree with her video, but you showed The Pleiades in cave art around the world. I wish I had access to the thousands of images. I don't understand why my work is shunned, nor the overlooked work of William Napier and Victor Clube, the progenitor comet ~20ka and its debris, The Taurid Meteor Stream, are the key to our past as its pre-perihelion appears to emanate from this star cluster and is the causation of the cyclic destructive ages. It is clearly shown symbolically under Pillar 18 as a Row of Seven Birds in Gobekli Tepe, that Dr. Lee Clare assured me with bullet points does not exist, and is still commemorated today as The Halloween Fireballs, The Taurids. Anthropology is The Story of Man, yet no one seems to comprehend my research that started ~1968.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Yes, I've posted on FB about some of the things you mention! Thx for commenting.

  • @scottowens1535
    @scottowens1535 8 месяцев назад +1

    I lean towards the fact that anything of that nature would be gone if not for the environment that kept these safe.
    Need to consider they were more common. Humans like to make stuff and these people were singing and making music and dancing...
    Wondering what's out there and is there some new technology we could use to look for more?
    Love the program!!! A absolute artist made those.
    That's a sub!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much Scott - glad you're liking the videos!

  • @flipflopski2951
    @flipflopski2951 8 месяцев назад +3

    The crosshatching on that piece of ocher at the beginning is to make it easier to grind into powder.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Very well could be!

    • @flipflopski2951
      @flipflopski2951 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@neilbockoven7254 Fabulous videos... keep up the great work!

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      @@flipflopski2951 Thanks so much - glad you liked the videos!

  • @geslinam9703
    @geslinam9703 4 месяца назад +1

    My theory on the multiple lines around the images at Chauvet were not to show movement…to me they look like artist’s practice sketchbooks, where the goal is not to create finished pieces - but to teach yourself how to draw something, or get better at it. You start a line, it’s not quite right, you start another. Since we don’t know the reason behind the creation of paleo art, could be the artists didn’t always really have a reason, could be they were just being artists, and drawing what they knew best, the natural world around them.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for commenting! I think you'll find some of paleoanthropologist Marc Azema's work interesting - here's an article about him: www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2012/06/05/stone-age-art-gets-animated/

  • @alfreddaniels3817
    @alfreddaniels3817 7 месяцев назад +2

    How precise is the dating ?

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  7 месяцев назад

      Relatively good. Depends which dates you're talking about, because some have been dated by multiple techniques, and those are quite good. But the plus & minuses are usually 1000 years or so.

  • @dbadagna
    @dbadagna 8 месяцев назад +2

    What's the engraving at 00:56?

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thought to be earliest works, see 1st episode for details.
      Thought to be over 100,000 years old.

  • @nibiruresearch
    @nibiruresearch 4 дня назад +1

    Thank you for this video. These rock shelters or caves were a natural hiding spot during the winter or very bad weather conditions but also a surviving place during the most dramatic event in the history of mankind. That is the crossing of planet 9 that occurs every few thousand years. That planet 9 is orbiting our sun in an eccentric orbit so it crosses close to our sun at a very high speed. Due to the gravitational force it causes a huge tidal wave, storms, rains, flooding and earthquakes in unprecedented amounts and a bombardment of fiery meteors. Only people who are in a shelter with a very strong roof, a mountain above your head will do, survive this disaster. In those caves they recorded messages for us. That they were human, many, by printing the hands. A spiral is the first sign of the approaching planet. A square cross is a closer planet and hands up means that they are frightened. That planet is sometimes presented as an aggressive animal with big teeth. The event occurs in seven days. Another result of the cycle of disasters is a cycle of civilizations. They emerge and vanish according to a fixed schedule. This is ancient knowledge that is available for everyone who is searching for it but that is forgotten, neglected or denied by all scientists. Abundant and convincing evidence including many pictures about the cycle of floods and civilizations and its timeline and ancient high tech can be found in the eBook "Planet 9 = Nibiru". Just search for: nibiru = 9

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  3 дня назад

      Thanks for your comments! I'll check out the planet 9 info.

  • @jim0311
    @jim0311 8 месяцев назад +1

    "Ever it was thus"... Oliver Hardy

  • @donnaevans8420
    @donnaevans8420 7 месяцев назад +1

    When is Part 3?

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  7 месяцев назад

      My editor went to Europe for three weeks. Still, #3 should be out in earliest April. Thx for your interest!

  • @yanina.korolko
    @yanina.korolko 8 месяцев назад +3

    0:47 I am sorry, but that is incorrect.
    A species consists of a population (or populations) that cannot interbreed successfully with another species. A subspecies consists of a group within a species that is usually geographically isolated from other subspecies, If ranges of different subspecies do overlap, successful interbreeding can occur.
    What defines a subspecies?
    A subspecies refers to a smaller group within a species. Although a subspecies is genetically distinct from other groups within a species, they are still capable of interbreeding and producing viable offspring.
    How many subspecies of humans were there?
    In the past, there were numerous human subspecies. The three most commonly studied human subspecies are Homo neanderthalensis, the Denisovan hominids, and Homo floresiensis.
    Are there any human subspecies left?
    Currently, the only human species is Homo sapiens. Despite differences in appearance, modern humans share over 99% of the same DNA and are therefore not further divided into different subspecies.
    Thank you for an informative video and for reading my comment.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your nice comment. Here's a post I did on FB back in June: WE'RE THE LAST OF AT LEAST 23 SPECIES OF HUMANS. The Smithsonian Museum of Natural History lists 21 species that they claim are recognized by most scientists. Evolutionary paleoecologist John Stewart thinks the list is likely to keep growing and is already at least 23, with new additions like Denisovans and Homo luzonensis. The exact numbers accepted by individual scientists vary widely mainly based on two definitions: What defines a human, and what defines a species. It used to be accepted that if two individuals could produce fertile offspring, they were the same species. But the lines have blurred as researchers struggle with many gray areas such as asexual reproduction or hybrids like ligers, which come from lion-tiger combinations. Many, perhaps most, scientists think we need a more expansive definition of species. And what defines humanity is an even thornier question. If you accept the 23-and-growing number of human species (and that's likely to depend on whether you're a lumper or a splitter), it's astonishing that more than a third of these overlapped in time with us - Homo sapiens. At least eight other human species lived alongside us, and we interbred with several of these and today carry their genes. However, except for a few genetic traces, they're all gone now, and I find myself deeply saddened by that. We often look up at the stars and wonder if there is, or ever was, other intelligent life out there. It turns out there WAS - right here on Earth. But no longer. Here's a related article: www.livescience.com/how-many-human-species.html...

    • @yanina.korolko
      @yanina.korolko 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@neilbockoven7254 I appreciate your responce, and link you provided.
      below, I 'm quoting from Wikipedia, info verified in several languages:
      Humans (Homo sapiens) or modern humans are the most common and widespread species of primate, and the last surviving species of the genus Homo. A great ape characterized by their hairlessness, bipedalism, and high intelligence.
      Although some scientists equate the term "humans" with all members of the genus Homo, in common usage it generally refers to Homo sapiens, the only extant member. Extinct members of the genus Homo are known as archaic humans, and the term "modern human" is used to distinguish Homo sapiens from archaic humans.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@yanina.korolko I agree with this! Thx

  • @richardkennedy8481
    @richardkennedy8481 2 месяца назад

    Why are we looking at that old man reading a teleprompter?

  • @LorettaHale6321
    @LorettaHale6321 8 месяцев назад

    ps. I get carried away writing so fast that I forgot...the part where I said my soul felt a tinge of sadness AND joy. I meant to add and joy because thank goodness there are still people like YOU that somehow still feel it in your soul when you see it and like us try and do our best to keep that alive. So all our ancestors will not be forgotton. Or else we will ALL be forgotton. THAT thing you felt in that cave that impacted you. I do not need to tell you what is was .....and what your purpose is.

  • @lynemac2539
    @lynemac2539 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a muralist. I know why.

  • @johndaugherty4127
    @johndaugherty4127 8 месяцев назад +2

    Evolution takes way too much faith for me to believe.

  • @jormahevonkoski2613
    @jormahevonkoski2613 8 месяцев назад +3

    Too much talking heads

  • @comanchewillkillyou
    @comanchewillkillyou 8 месяцев назад +2

    a simpler, better time. perhaps we can recreate this among the stars, away from Our Home.

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Be sure to check out Episode 3, which is largely about the stars! Thx for commenting.

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen 8 месяцев назад

    great video and message Neil - thank you

    • @neilbockoven7254
      @neilbockoven7254  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks Frank - glad you liked the video and commented!