Great video. Jjust I'll add that on the "diapers" I always cut a hole in one, and place it over the fill location, so definitely, no splashes reach the boat , and no fuel in the water. A win win.
You say at 3:10 that you need to run your blower for at least four minutes after fueling an inboard engine boat because it will prevent "any accidental sparks." I am afraid you misspoke. What I think you mean is that running the blower to clear out any lingering gas vapor will prevent an explosion or fire if there is an accidental spark when the electrical system is energized or the engine is started. Running the blower won't prevent a spark. Russ, Long Beach, California
Wouldn’t it be better to show you filling up your gasoline fueled boat with an actual gasoline hose ( red) rather than the green diesel hose? I know it’s only for demonstration purposes but still. Also you should accentuate the differences from a safety standpoint point between gasoline and diesel.
I would never assume that a green hose means diesel, David. Hence the reason we strongly recommend confirming with the attendant whether it's gasoline or diesel you want. Ensuring that a marine gas dock has similar standards to a roadside gas station is WELL beyond the scope of this video.
My only concern is whether the dock fuel station is using ethanol free gas or fuel with additive treated to treat ethanol, always good idea to ask because sometimes I refuel at a local road side gas station and always add fuel additive, very few docks offer ethanol free gas
I wrap the diaper ‘over’ the end of the nozzle to make sure residual fuel from the previous boat doesn’t drip on my boat as I turn the nozzle to place it in the inlet.
Thanks for the question, fourrules. The risk is that you defeat the purpose of the blower. By running it while fueling, in some situations it can actually suck in fumes from outside of the boat and introduce them into the engine compartment. The best practice is to shut everything off during fueling, and then run the blower at least four minutes after fueling has been completed.
I agree with you FourRules. If vapor does collect in the engine compartment and for some reason there is any arcing or shorting in the circuit running the blowers, then you would be introducing a spark when you turn the blower on. As for boatus' suggestion that running the blowers while fueling may bring vapors into the boat - if the ambient air has that many vapors present to be drawn in, it would lead me to believe we have bigger problems at that fuel depot. Even if it did bring in outside vapors, 4 minutes of running a blower after fueling is complete should be more than sufficient.
Tipping is SO subjective, Rick! Whatever you think is appropriate for the amount of service provided. There's no right or wrong answer. Some folks don't tip at all; others are more generous. If the dockhand goes above and beyond, it's nice to reward that, but it's certainly not required. $5-$10 is probably a good starting point. Perhaps others will chime in as to whether they tip and, if so, how much.
Thanks for the great question, dz. While we understand some of the risks are lessened with diesel, we suggest following the same precautions, especially when it comes to ensuring safety and that no fuel ends up in the water.
Tipping is not required duarte, but it is always nice to show appreciation to someone who goes above and beyond. In our case, Gannon was kind enough to take significant time out of his schedule to help us with the video, and there was a lot more that you didn't see on screen. Tip or don't tip. Up to you.
And….. if you only fill your boat up with 10 gallons you are wasting the time of everyone queuing at the fuel dock. At least wait until the vessel is half empty then brim it. Not so it’s overflowing… just keep regular readings and you will now how much the tank takes. Fill it to a couple of gallons, 10 litres, less than what you calculate to be brim full. Works every time.
I suppose we should have rescheduled the video shoot to ensure the tank was at a level you deem appropriate for refueling, Philby. Mentioning that it was 10 gallons was merely to demonstrate how Sarah calculates how much to add. We could have said 100 gallons to make the same point -- and someone surely would have pointed out that the pump didn't corroborate that.
Thanks for your sobering comment, Jordan. You'd think there would be a built-in solution by now. There are many products on the market for decreasing the chances of fuel spills, and we recommend them if they solve a problem for you. But everything comes with its own pros and cons-- whether it's creating trash, costing money, taking up space, being made from nonrenewable materials, etc. The best option is to do what you can to protect our waterways. And sometimes the simplest answer is the best one.
@@RStout59 Keep in mind also: A tank filled to the absolute top or even close to the top may vent liquid which would certainly not be ideal at best. Rule of thumb: Ten Percent space for expansion in marine and equipment environments that experience rapid movement.
You're not wrong, pm. Though while you may know this information already, there are plenty of boaters out there who don't. Especially remembering to run the blower for at least 4 minutes. And also lots of folks who don't realize they shouldn't use the shutoff clip.
You clearly missed the point, dental, which is to know how much fuel you need to put in so you don't overfill. We could have said 100 gallons, but then someone would have called us out because that's not what it says on the pump.
I understand the sentiment. It is just kind of rude to make a ten dollar fuel purchase at a marina, especially if they are busy. Not everyone is familiar with marina etiquette.
You make an excellent point about not clogging up the fuel dock for others when it's busy. In our situation, there was no line at the pumps when we were there (a weekday), and we put in more than $10. (It was 10 gallons, so close to $50.) We weren't going to reschedule the shoot because the tank wasn't "empty enough."
Great video. Jjust I'll add that on the "diapers" I always cut a hole in one, and place it over the fill location, so definitely, no splashes reach the boat , and no fuel in the water. A win win.
I keep the diaper for my passengers because they shitt their pants when I plane off.
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Your supposed to keep the propeller IN the water at least some of the time.
Excellent tip, java! We appreciate boaters who go above and beyond. Thanks so much for sharing!
You say at 3:10 that you need to run your blower for at least four minutes after fueling an inboard engine boat because it will prevent "any accidental sparks." I am afraid you misspoke. What I think you mean is that running the blower to clear out any lingering gas vapor will prevent an explosion or fire if there is an accidental spark when the electrical system is energized or the engine is started. Running the blower won't prevent a spark.
Russ, Long Beach, California
You're correct, Russ. Thanks for your attention to detail and offering a clarification.
Wouldn’t it be better to show you filling up your gasoline fueled boat with an actual gasoline hose ( red) rather than the green diesel hose? I know it’s only for demonstration purposes but still. Also you should accentuate the differences from a safety standpoint point between gasoline and diesel.
At 1:37 you can see this Dock Station uses a green hose for their unleaded too. Like you stated, they should use a red hose to not confuse customers.
Do not assume that all green fuel hoses are diesel. I have personally seen stations where the green was unleaded.
I would never assume that a green hose means diesel, David. Hence the reason we strongly recommend confirming with the attendant whether it's gasoline or diesel you want. Ensuring that a marine gas dock has similar standards to a roadside gas station is WELL beyond the scope of this video.
My only concern is whether the dock fuel station is using ethanol free gas or fuel with additive treated to treat ethanol, always good idea to ask because sometimes I refuel at a local road side gas station and always add fuel additive, very few docks offer ethanol free gas
I wrap the diaper ‘over’ the end of the nozzle to make sure residual fuel from the previous boat doesn’t drip on my boat as I turn the nozzle to place it in the inlet.
Excellent tip, glass! Thanks for sharing!
I like to run the blower while fueling but everything else powered down. What's the risk?
Thanks for the question, fourrules. The risk is that you defeat the purpose of the blower. By running it while fueling, in some situations it can actually suck in fumes from outside of the boat and introduce them into the engine compartment. The best practice is to shut everything off during fueling, and then run the blower at least four minutes after fueling has been completed.
I agree with you FourRules. If vapor does collect in the engine compartment and for some reason there is any arcing or shorting in the circuit running the blowers, then you would be introducing a spark when you turn the blower on. As for boatus' suggestion that running the blowers while fueling may bring vapors into the boat - if the ambient air has that many vapors present to be drawn in, it would lead me to believe we have bigger problems at that fuel depot. Even if it did bring in outside vapors, 4 minutes of running a blower after fueling is complete should be more than sufficient.
What happened to operating your bilge blower?
Absolutely critical for boats that have an enclosed engine space! She did mention that. However, this boat has an outboard, so it's not a concern.
How much do you tip the dock hand?
Tipping is SO subjective, Rick! Whatever you think is appropriate for the amount of service provided. There's no right or wrong answer. Some folks don't tip at all; others are more generous. If the dockhand goes above and beyond, it's nice to reward that, but it's certainly not required. $5-$10 is probably a good starting point. Perhaps others will chime in as to whether they tip and, if so, how much.
How many of these precautions are needed for a diesel boat?
Thanks for the great question, dz. While we understand some of the risks are lessened with diesel, we suggest following the same precautions, especially when it comes to ensuring safety and that no fuel ends up in the water.
Tipping the dock hand for literally doing nothing is a must 😂
Tipping is not required duarte, but it is always nice to show appreciation to someone who goes above and beyond. In our case, Gannon was kind enough to take significant time out of his schedule to help us with the video, and there was a lot more that you didn't see on screen. Tip or don't tip. Up to you.
If I deboard my passengers they will not pay for gas so I let them pump
And….. if you only fill your boat up with 10 gallons you are wasting the time of everyone queuing at the fuel dock. At least wait until the vessel is half empty then brim it. Not so it’s overflowing… just keep regular readings and you will now how much the tank takes. Fill it to a couple of gallons, 10 litres, less than what you calculate to be brim full. Works every time.
I suppose we should have rescheduled the video shoot to ensure the tank was at a level you deem appropriate for refueling, Philby. Mentioning that it was 10 gallons was merely to demonstrate how Sarah calculates how much to add. We could have said 100 gallons to make the same point -- and someone surely would have pointed out that the pump didn't corroborate that.
How many people here watching off board all passengers when fueling ? I feel like our tight fuel dock is more dangerous than the boat itself .
It feels like we are living in prehistoric times refueling-wise. Fuel spills and drips can and should be and can be obsolete.
Thanks for your sobering comment, Jordan. You'd think there would be a built-in solution by now. There are many products on the market for decreasing the chances of fuel spills, and we recommend them if they solve a problem for you. But everything comes with its own pros and cons-- whether it's creating trash, costing money, taking up space, being made from nonrenewable materials, etc. The best option is to do what you can to protect our waterways. And sometimes the simplest answer is the best one.
Wow
Is that a good wow or a bad wow, Dal?
Fuel expands in warm weather? 🤨 not really. Vapor pressure increases but the fuel does not expand.
ANYTHING with a molecular structure expands when it gets hotter, including liquid fuels.
Physics 101.
Worked in gasoline industry. Gas expands and contracts depending on temp.😊
You are both absolutely correct. I should have said "not appreciably" in the context of the video. I look fatter in the summer than the winter.
@@RStout59
Keep in mind also:
A tank filled to the absolute top or even close to the top may vent liquid which would certainly not be ideal at best.
Rule of thumb: Ten Percent space for expansion in marine and equipment environments that experience rapid movement.
@blaydCA seems like an excess amount to me. Not arguing. Is that an OSHA or similar rule. Trying to learn more always.
It’s basic common sense stuff.! 😮
You're not wrong, pm. Though while you may know this information already, there are plenty of boaters out there who don't. Especially remembering to run the blower for at least 4 minutes. And also lots of folks who don't realize they shouldn't use the shutoff clip.
Ah yes, let’s add 10 gallons to our 110 gallon tank.
I was thinking the same thing for my 450 gallons
You clearly missed the point, dental, which is to know how much fuel you need to put in so you don't overfill. We could have said 100 gallons, but then someone would have called us out because that's not what it says on the pump.
I understand the sentiment. It is just kind of rude to make a ten dollar fuel purchase at a marina, especially if they are busy. Not everyone is familiar with marina etiquette.
You make an excellent point about not clogging up the fuel dock for others when it's busy. In our situation, there was no line at the pumps when we were there (a weekday), and we put in more than $10. (It was 10 gallons, so close to $50.) We weren't going to reschedule the shoot because the tank wasn't "empty enough."