Thanks for making this vid. I'm moving from a NS3 to NS4 and wanted just a tour of the presets, much as you'd do in a music store if there were any of those left 😁
Glad it was helpful, Chuck! I don't have to tell you that the presets are never ever a mark of how good a keyboard is, especially The Nord...but these are better than the Stage 3 to me. Not that I use them!
@@benallen5967 True, I build my own patches, but it was nice to see what came in the box. I can tell you're an organ player as well as you were doing some serious drawbar sculpting, which I do as well!
Personal opinions aside about quality and value for money, this is, in my humble opinion, the best demo of a Nord I’ve ever experienced. Buy that man a drink. He must be exhausted. Well done sir. 👏👍
Ben - I never owned a Nord. I have extensive experience going back the 80’s with: 1, Live bands - Hardware synths, Rhodes and organ 2. Live bands - Midi master keyboard (KX-88) controlling hardware synths 3. Home studio - Multiple workstation keyboards 4. Current - Home studio - great master keyboard (RD-2000), Logic Pro, plenty of software synths and a recently added Hydrasynth Deluxe Despite having the ability to create most any sound, I miss the immediacy of hardware and the hassle of menu diving when I have limited time to actually play in my home studio. While I know you cannot answer what’s best for me, but what is your opinion of using a Stage 4 as master controller/sound engine tied to my extensive collection of software synths and Logic?
I would say it depends on what you are looking for. The Stage 4 is specifically a keyboard that is meant to do KEYS sounds, very well. So I would say the piano samples in particular, are excellent...so is the organ engine, though the rotary effect is not quite as good as say, a Neo Ventilator or even the Leslie in the Yamaha YC88/73/61. The synths engine is good, but nothing like a dedicated synth. It is designed more for people who don't really need to go very deep into synthesis, but still need the basics. It sounds like you pretty much have all the sonic territory covered - so unless you just really want the Nord sounds... I'm not sure it is worth it to have what seems like would be just another sound engine.
@@benallen5967 Thank you…Appreciate your feedback. Beyond the sonic territory, the immediate nature and lack of menu diving is still appealing. Can you comment on the 88 key action or do you have the compact?
@@trstackyou would still have to menu dive to access your software because the nord controls do not transfer midi ccs. The Kurzweil k2700 does once program the controls to make using your software like it was a part of your hardware…..& that’s not to mention that Kurzweil has all the bread & butter sounds and can go the distance as a synth as a stand alone high quality sound generator.✌🏾
It depends. The Stage 4 is excellent, but at this early state VERY buggy. It has everything the Stage 3 did, but it adds a layer of complexity with the Sections/Groups and unless you specifically need the Wave 2 features in the Synth section - I wouldn't sell a Stage 3 to get a Stage 4 at this point. I did that myself, and it probably wasn't worth it, though I do like the Stage 4...mainly for the extra synth/sample memory, and dedicated effects per layer. I take part of that back... it is capable of everything the Stage 3 is EXCEPT in the Synth section... the A1 based Synth engine in the Stage 3 is actually capable of multi oscillator configurations that the Stage 4 Wave 2 based synth is not. You can still get there.. but you'll have to use two layers on the Stage 4 to accomplish what you can with one, on the Stage 3. Also, the basic synth sounds are out of the box richer and more complex on the Stage 3, but while you may have less obvious wow factor with the Stage 4 synth, you get much more capability and options under the hood.
The octave up/down for each layer is what I use. I prefer middle C to be an octave higher, so I shift my layers where I want them and save my programs that way. The global transpose button can only go up/down by 6 half steps.
I see here a lot of folk are commenting on the the price of $5000 I assume that is American dollars Here in New Zealand that price tag is $9000 at the local music store When I first saw this I just about fell off my piano stool However if you put it in a context in about 1988 I brought a Roland D-50 for $3000 In today’s money that would be about $9500 I can remember saving up all my pennies for that one, believe me I can’t imagine taking a $9000 synth out to some gig. I’m sure it’s a beautiful instrument but not sure it’s for the road.
I've taken it out many many times with zero issues. I treat it well, and it has a waterproof hard case. I've had issues with Nord keyboards with weighted actions, but this one has the waterfall action and like my Stage 3 before it, has been rock solid.
@@benallen5967 thanks Ben. I have a S9 and I love the action. For me is better than PH4 from Roland which I played a lot. In the first days I loved the piano sounds. But after I listening some nord demos and after I installing a Salamander Yamaha C5 sf2, I changed my mind a little. The orchestral sounds in my opinion are the best. But the pianos are still "too perfect"
I'm trying to convince myself to buy this thing, but I can't justify it. For THAT price, I want to be blown away. I'll do better to get an M2 Macbook, then buy Keyscape & Omnisphere for starters.
As someone who owns the Stage 4, and a fully specced out MacBook Pro with 64 Gb of Ram, and all the plugins you named and more…I’ll say this. I get far more use out of my Nord Stage 3/4 on stage. As awesome as all those plugins are, the hands on control and immediacy of the Nord still has me reaching for it every time. The Mac and plugins are awesome don’t get me wrong, but these days if I am doing the plug-in thing, it’s with a YC88 and iPad.
@@benallen5967 You seem to know a lot about VSTs. My question is, there are so many great ones to choose from based on my research. If your laptop is powerful enough, is it possible to have say, Pianoteq and Keyscape open at the same time to choose presets to play from? I'm old to hardware but new to software. I'm envisioning having something similar to the original poster. Omnisphere, Keyscape, Pianoteq and others, all opened, and there for me to pick and choose from in a live setting.
@@supgloserv thanks for your question. So, PianoTeq, which I also own and use, is extremely easy on any system, because it’s modeled, not sample based. Even on my iPhone, PianoTeq works super well and taxes the system very very little. The entire app is only 58 mb. Keyscape, and Omnisphere on the other hand, are both very intense apps and will definitely tax your system, so while I can run both of those along with lots of other apps simultaneously (in Logic or MainStage) it is only possible in a very powerful machine. I recommend at the very least, an M1 based Mac with 16 Gb of Ram, and after that, I would suggest you get as much ram as you can possibly afford, along with as powerful a processor as possible. The machine I use is an M1 Pro Max 14 inch MacBook Pro with 64 Gb of Ram and a 2 TB SSD. If you are looking at software, I HIGHLY recommended Backstage Pass and the new expansions for it by my friend Jim Daneker. I’m happy to recommend other options as well, especially if you are just starting out and don’t think you need the massive arsenal that is, Omnisphere. Feel free to email me. Godisopen@ Gmail
@@benallen5967 I ended up getting 32GB of RAM with 1TB SSD. I hope that's enough to do what I want, because that's all I could afford before I'd start to feel it.
I ended up sending back my NS4 and bought a used Kronos 2 73 key and could no be happier. If someone likes it, then they are entitled to - but I personally wouldn't pay more than $3.5k for what the Nord offers.
Io ho fatto la stessa cosa. Pagare tutti quei soldi per avere un buon piano e un buon organo mi sembra esagerato. Io ho sentito i Synth e i campioni, sono veramente ridicoli. Ancora peggio donino suoni orchestrali. Per il resto è ok.
@@Nonyabizz01 it needs one. The triple pedal and the SP-2 options, enables pedal noise, which I personally love. See this page for pedals. www.nordkeyboards.com/accessories/
@@KeithMohrIt's in the general section in the middle at the very top above the screen. On top of that, you can also activate pedal tap, so you can tap the tempo with your foot.
Great playing and demonstration of the Stage4. How do you rate the keybed of the compact in comparison to the 73? I do currently use the Cp73. I do like the action of the Yamaha quite a bit, very responsive.
Hi Ben just received my Nord stage 4 compact 73 never had waterfall keys before, very different from my fantom 7 i just sold , do you find the keys on the compact are slightly noisy and is it the same on the weighted keys thanks !
They have similar approaches to the presets, which Nord calls Programs, and Yamaha calls Live Sets. You have way way more flexibility and power with the Stage 3/4 since they have dedicated synth engines - whereas the YC series has a very basic set of synth editing options. In my personal opinion, the Nord Piano Library is more detailed in all their samples, and provides a level of realism which, while not super important in a live busy band mix, is wonderful for solo and at home/studio playing. The pedal noise, string resonance, and overall more "in the room" sound of the Nord pianos, is very very noticeable. The Yamaha YC and CP also have far less polyphony, since they are sharing all their voices across all three of their available engines. The Nord, has dedicated polyphony for each engine, and I've never experienced notes cutting out with the Stage 3 or 4 - where I definitely do with the CP and YC unless I am playing very sparsely. The YC has a much better keyboard action than anything in the Nord lineup, including the Grand. It also has a very good organ engine, as well as a built in audio/midi interface. I have a YC88 under my Nord Stage 4 and love the flexibility they both give me. One of the best things about the Nord, is the ability to sample your software/hardware and have those sounds inside your Nord. While the YC has the built in interface, and lets you connect a computer or tablet to get additional sounds, it isn't quite the same as being able to actually sample and save those sounds. You have the ability on the YC to have 3 sounds layered at once. The Stage 4, can do 7. They are both excellent - but the Stage 4 a YC are not in the same category.
It’s like comparing a sling shot to a king’s sword, but yet the sling shot is what was used to killed the giant because the faith-filled giant slayer couldn’t yet carry all the king’s heavy things, but he knew his way around a much simpler tool. Some people would do better with the simpler YC & others with the more complex Nord.
But it’s probably best to personally try them out in the store. The giant slayer tried out the king’s war implements before deciding whether to use them or not. You get a better feel for how the instruments will inspire you when they are in your hands.✌🏾
Looks like you have an effects pedal or something running underneath, maybe you havent told us about. Either that or your foot taps at the wrong times.
This is the weirdest comment I have ever received on any video. What you are seeing is my knees up against the edge of the K&M Omega Pro keyboard stand. I use a second and triple tier attachment with it, so the black objects you see, are the parts of the second tiers which stick out under the keyboard itself. As far what is under the Keyboard where my legs would be....that is a Nord Triple Pedal, and a Yamaha FC-7 Expression Pedal. I definitely do not have any effects pedals connected to the Nord.
So this is a problem. It appears all the great presets in the Nord 3 no longer exist in the Nord 4? If that is true, Nord has a big problem. First of all. -- if that's the case -- there are a lot more presets in a Nord 3 than a Nord 4. And if there is no "matchability" -- why would anybody upgrade unless they were going to keep both units; which is prohibitively expensive. The sound engine may sound fuller ... even magnificent -- but in the context of either a (1) live set or (3) a mix ... it WILL NOT translate. Why Nord wouldn't offer comparable presets with additions is total upgrade suicide. No?
What do you mean by presets? The Stage 4 has a Preset Library, which I have not shown here. The Stage 3, had synth presets only. If you mean Programs, then the Stage 4 has over 100 more programs than the Stage 3. If you are referring to Samples, as in the Nord Sample Library, then it is true that not all of the samples in the Nord Sample Library 3 are in the 4, and vice versa.
I would also say that we have far more narrowed down and immediately usable programs this time around. I owned the Stage 3 for 5 years and it was great, but I NEVER used a single one of its Programs, I just made my own. In the case of the Stage 4, I find many good Programs that work well in a live set, and solo. The main reason to go from the Stage 3 to the Stage 4, is the massively more powerful effects system, the triple sensor action, and the nearly full Wave 2 synth which replaces the A1 derived system in the Nord Stage 3. I do not see the Stage 4 as an upgrade so much as the next iteration of the Stage platform, into which Nord has incorporated the Wave 2 architecture, along with most of the tried and true features of the Stage 3. I disagree that the Stage 4 will not translate. All of it custom samples in nsmp3 format, have in fact been upgraded to nsmp4 format by the Sound Manager software as soon as I added them to the Stage 4. The only ones that will not, are the official Nord samples… but I deleted 99% of those anyway.
It´s not a problem at all as you simply don`t buy a Nord based on it`s pre programmed presets. You buy a Nord Stage to make your own programs. If you want a preset-maschine, buy a Yamaha Montage or a Roland Fantom instead. The Nord translates perfectly both live and in the studio. Just did a major gig with the Nord Stage as my main weapon, and it sounded gorgeous through the huge concert PA system. I think you are overly dramatic…..
I’m not hearing $5000 sounds, way way overpriced, Yamaha, korg, kurzweil, Roland sound just as good for less than half the money, this is an example of the market setting the price, if people are willing to pay the price then the price goes up, even their older models are way overpriced, and they have severe programming limitations
I have played a Nord, and every other brand, and let me say a piano is a piano is a piano, as long as it’s in tune it’s hard to mistake it for another instrument, and finally it’s not the instrument but the player
And a quality piano sound you say? How about a 9’ Steinway? Is that a quality enough piano sound for you? And do you have stock in Nord? They’re way overpriced and limited in their programming ability
I’m just wondering because you paid out so much money for it that you want to believe it’s head and shoulders better than every other keyboard out there, but that’s just not the case, look up Nord comparisons to other brands, but don’t get me wrong, I really like the Nord stages, but not at that price or lack of certain features
I understand the sentiment - but I don’t know a single person who uses the built in programs. I certainly don’t. They shouldn’t be taken as an indication of what the instrument is capable of.
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Great job 🎉
loved the demo of each program showing the effects usability of them. learnt a lot from this thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for making this vid. I'm moving from a NS3 to NS4 and wanted just a tour of the presets, much as you'd do in a music store if there were any of those left 😁
Glad it was helpful, Chuck! I don't have to tell you that the presets are never ever a mark of how good a keyboard is, especially The Nord...but these are better than the Stage 3 to me. Not that I use them!
@@benallen5967 True, I build my own patches, but it was nice to see what came in the box. I can tell you're an organ player as well as you were doing some serious drawbar sculpting, which I do as well!
The guitar Center here only sells use controllers and cheap keyboards. I don’t know how they’re still in business.
This aftertouch...amazing. Thx for your demo.
That little song starting at 8:19 was really beautiful.
Personal opinions aside about quality and value for money, this is, in my humble opinion, the best demo of a Nord I’ve ever experienced. Buy that man a drink. He must be exhausted. Well done sir. 👏👍
@@bobrobertson9547 I appreciate the compliment!
Excellent playing.
Great work 👌👌👌
wow some great sounds!
29:38 Tines Layer
36:24 Ballad Layer
1:08:18 Studio Keys 2
1:09:58 Love Ballad Layer
I heard the most incredible Rhodes Affair 3 style EPs in a Jesus Molina Nord grand video
And another Nord piano layers video
Ben -
I never owned a Nord. I have extensive experience going back the 80’s with:
1, Live bands - Hardware synths, Rhodes and organ
2. Live bands - Midi master keyboard (KX-88) controlling hardware synths
3. Home studio - Multiple workstation keyboards
4. Current - Home studio - great master keyboard (RD-2000), Logic Pro, plenty of software synths and a recently added Hydrasynth Deluxe
Despite having the ability to create most any sound, I miss the immediacy of hardware and the hassle of menu diving when I have limited time to actually play in my home studio.
While I know you cannot answer what’s best for me, but what is your opinion of using a Stage 4 as master controller/sound engine tied to my extensive collection of software synths and Logic?
I would say it depends on what you are looking for. The Stage 4 is specifically a keyboard that is meant to do KEYS sounds, very well. So I would say the piano samples in particular, are excellent...so is the organ engine, though the rotary effect is not quite as good as say, a Neo Ventilator or even the Leslie in the Yamaha YC88/73/61. The synths engine is good, but nothing like a dedicated synth. It is designed more for people who don't really need to go very deep into synthesis, but still need the basics. It sounds like you pretty much have all the sonic territory covered - so unless you just really want the Nord sounds... I'm not sure it is worth it to have what seems like would be just another sound engine.
@@benallen5967 Thank you…Appreciate your feedback. Beyond the sonic territory, the immediate nature and lack of menu diving is still appealing. Can you comment on the 88 key action or do you have the compact?
@@trstackyou would still have to menu dive to access your software because the nord controls do not transfer midi ccs. The Kurzweil k2700 does once program the controls to make using your software like it was a part of your hardware…..& that’s not to mention that Kurzweil has all the bread & butter sounds and can go the distance as a synth as a stand alone high quality sound generator.✌🏾
I want one and I don't even play the piano!
Wormhole organ 55:22. sold ❤. Played it well
I wish I had one!!!!
It is a great board!
I know I'll have one!!!!
In your opinion, Ben, do you think it’s worth the upgrade from the stage 3 to the stage 4
It depends. The Stage 4 is excellent, but at this early state VERY buggy. It has everything the Stage 3 did, but it adds a layer of complexity with the Sections/Groups and unless you specifically need the Wave 2 features in the Synth section - I wouldn't sell a Stage 3 to get a Stage 4 at this point. I did that myself, and it probably wasn't worth it, though I do like the Stage 4...mainly for the extra synth/sample memory, and dedicated effects per layer. I take part of that back... it is capable of everything the Stage 3 is EXCEPT in the Synth section... the A1 based Synth engine in the Stage 3 is actually capable of multi oscillator configurations that the Stage 4 Wave 2 based synth is not. You can still get there.. but you'll have to use two layers on the Stage 4 to accomplish what you can with one, on the Stage 3. Also, the basic synth sounds are out of the box richer and more complex on the Stage 3, but while you may have less obvious wow factor with the Stage 4 synth, you get much more capability and options under the hood.
im keeping my stage3 and returned the stage4@@benallen5967
muy buenoooo
If you get a 73 Key version -- How does it transpose up or down to get the 15 keys you are missing? Thanks for answering. L
You can press the Octave keys under each section as needed, or just transpose the whole keyboard globally.
The octave up/down for each layer is what I use. I prefer middle C to be an octave higher, so I shift my layers where I want them and save my programs that way. The global transpose button can only go up/down by 6 half steps.
I see here a lot of folk are commenting on the the price of $5000
I assume that is American dollars
Here in New Zealand that price tag is $9000 at the local music store
When I first saw this I just about fell off my piano stool
However if you put it in a context in about 1988 I brought a Roland D-50 for $3000
In today’s money that would be about $9500
I can remember saving up all my pennies for that one, believe me
I can’t imagine taking a $9000 synth out to some gig.
I’m sure it’s a beautiful instrument but not sure it’s for the road.
I've taken it out many many times with zero issues. I treat it well, and it has a waterproof hard case. I've had issues with Nord keyboards with weighted actions, but this one has the waterfall action and like my Stage 3 before it, has been rock solid.
Clavia Nord should be aware of iPad IOS and make an app for live set programming and maybe a sequencer too as they have for norddrums 😊
Can you make a comparison between nord and Dexibell pianos? I really like your honest opinions.
Stand by - I may have some Dexibell news soon.
@@benallen5967 thanks Ben. I have a S9 and I love the action. For me is better than PH4 from Roland which I played a lot. In the first days I loved the piano sounds. But after I listening some nord demos and after I installing a Salamander Yamaha C5 sf2, I changed my mind a little.
The orchestral sounds in my opinion are the best. But the pianos are still "too perfect"
@@benallen5967 one more question Ben: when you tested S1, the OS let you to adjust the velocity curve?
A super musical instrument, but I believe the Yamaha YC73 was not far behind,
I'm trying to convince myself to buy this thing, but I can't justify it. For THAT price, I want to be blown away. I'll do better to get an M2 Macbook, then buy Keyscape & Omnisphere for starters.
As someone who owns the Stage 4, and a fully specced out MacBook Pro with 64 Gb of Ram, and all the plugins you named and more…I’ll say this. I get far more use out of my Nord Stage 3/4 on stage. As awesome as all those plugins are, the hands on control and immediacy of the Nord still has me reaching for it every time. The Mac and plugins are awesome don’t get me wrong, but these days if I am doing the plug-in thing, it’s with a YC88 and iPad.
@@benallen5967 You seem to know a lot about VSTs. My question is, there are so many great ones to choose from based on my research. If your laptop is powerful enough, is it possible to have say, Pianoteq and Keyscape open at the same time to choose presets to play from? I'm old to hardware but new to software. I'm envisioning having something similar to the original poster. Omnisphere, Keyscape, Pianoteq and others, all opened, and there for me to pick and choose from in a live setting.
@@supgloserv thanks for your question. So, PianoTeq, which I also own and use, is extremely easy on any system, because it’s modeled, not sample based. Even on my iPhone, PianoTeq works super well and taxes the system very very little. The entire app is only 58 mb. Keyscape, and Omnisphere on the other hand, are both very intense apps and will definitely tax your system, so while I can run both of those along with lots of other apps simultaneously (in Logic or MainStage) it is only possible in a very powerful machine. I recommend at the very least, an M1 based Mac with 16 Gb of Ram, and after that, I would suggest you get as much ram as you can possibly afford, along with as powerful a processor as possible. The machine I use is an M1 Pro Max 14 inch MacBook Pro with 64 Gb of Ram and a 2 TB SSD. If you are looking at software, I HIGHLY recommended Backstage Pass and the new expansions for it by my friend Jim Daneker. I’m happy to recommend other options as well, especially if you are just starting out and don’t think you need the massive arsenal that is, Omnisphere. Feel free to email me. Godisopen@ Gmail
@@benallen5967 I ended up getting 32GB of RAM with 1TB SSD. I hope that's enough to do what I want, because that's all I could afford before I'd start to feel it.
@@supgloserv Which Mac did you get specifically? What processor?
I ended up sending back my NS4 and bought a used Kronos 2 73 key and could no be happier. If someone likes it, then they are entitled to - but I personally wouldn't pay more than $3.5k for what the Nord offers.
Io ho fatto la stessa cosa. Pagare tutti quei soldi per avere un buon piano e un buon organo mi sembra esagerato. Io ho sentito i Synth e i campioni, sono veramente ridicoli. Ancora peggio donino suoni orchestrali. Per il resto è ok.
Does it have or need a sustain pedal? This would be the perfect keyboard for me
@@Nonyabizz01 it needs one. The triple pedal and the SP-2 options, enables pedal noise, which I personally love. See this page for pedals. www.nordkeyboards.com/accessories/
It comes with a Nord SP-1 pedal, but you can also purchase an SP-2 or triple pedal depending on your needs.
@@scottm1238 that’s not the case actually. None of the Stage 4 models I’ve purchased had a pedal included (in the USA at least)
I’ve purchased a NS4 HA73 and HA88 and they both came with SP-1 pedals in the keyboard box.
@@scottm1238 I’m happy for you!
Why 5000?
please could you tell me what song you are playing with program A:32 ((at 13:32 minutes) ?
Just improvising! It isn’t a song that I know of- just me playing random notes.
@@benallen5967 your improvising is awesome. My mind was blowing for what you played on the A:32 program.
Thx for your answer.
Is there a tap system tempo button that is easy to get to? Great playing btw!
Yes. There is a dedicatet button. Tap it four times to set the tempo, hold it to adjust with the dial.
thanks. where is that button located? I see a tap tempo for a delay, but not for an arpeggio or a pulsating sound@@baernergiu
@@KeithMohrIt's in the general section in the middle at the very top above the screen.
On top of that, you can also activate pedal tap, so you can tap the tempo with your foot.
Now to chose which of my internal organs to sell.
Great playing and demonstration of the Stage4. How do you rate the keybed of the compact in comparison to the 73? I do currently use the Cp73. I do like the action of the Yamaha quite a bit, very responsive.
Compared to the YC73, both the compact and HA73/88 models of the Stage 4 are much more responsive and quick.
Hi Ben just received my Nord stage 4 compact 73 never had waterfall keys before, very different from my fantom 7 i just sold , do you find the keys on the compact are slightly noisy and is it the same on the weighted keys thanks !
The waterfall keys on Nord keyboards are not noisy, I had the Roland Fantom 7 and that key bed is noisy
Purely in terms of quality and quantity of sounds, how much better is the NS4 than the YC overall?
They have similar approaches to the presets, which Nord calls Programs, and Yamaha calls Live Sets. You have way way more flexibility and power with the Stage 3/4 since they have dedicated synth engines - whereas the YC series has a very basic set of synth editing options. In my personal opinion, the Nord Piano Library is more detailed in all their samples, and provides a level of realism which, while not super important in a live busy band mix, is wonderful for solo and at home/studio playing. The pedal noise, string resonance, and overall more "in the room" sound of the Nord pianos, is very very noticeable. The Yamaha YC and CP also have far less polyphony, since they are sharing all their voices across all three of their available engines. The Nord, has dedicated polyphony for each engine, and I've never experienced notes cutting out with the Stage 3 or 4 - where I definitely do with the CP and YC unless I am playing very sparsely. The YC has a much better keyboard action than anything in the Nord lineup, including the Grand. It also has a very good organ engine, as well as a built in audio/midi interface. I have a YC88 under my Nord Stage 4 and love the flexibility they both give me.
One of the best things about the Nord, is the ability to sample your software/hardware and have those sounds inside your Nord. While the YC has the built in interface, and lets you connect a computer or tablet to get additional sounds, it isn't quite the same as being able to actually sample and save those sounds. You have the ability on the YC to have 3 sounds layered at once. The Stage 4, can do 7. They are both excellent - but the Stage 4 a YC are not in the same category.
It’s like comparing a sling shot to a king’s sword, but yet the sling shot is what was used to killed the giant because the faith-filled giant slayer couldn’t yet carry all the king’s heavy things, but he knew his way around a much simpler tool. Some people would do better with the simpler YC & others with the more complex Nord.
But it’s probably best to personally try them out in the store. The giant slayer tried out the king’s war implements before deciding whether to use them or not. You get a better feel for how the instruments will inspire you when they are in your hands.✌🏾
And honestly, the new presets are quite inferior --
Looks like you have an effects pedal or something running underneath, maybe you havent told us about. Either that or your foot taps at the wrong times.
This is the weirdest comment I have ever received on any video. What you are seeing is my knees up against the edge of the K&M Omega Pro keyboard stand. I use a second and triple tier attachment with it, so the black objects you see, are the parts of the second tiers which stick out under the keyboard itself. As far what is under the Keyboard where my legs would be....that is a Nord Triple Pedal, and a Yamaha FC-7 Expression Pedal. I definitely do not have any effects pedals connected to the Nord.
@@benallen5967 well said..guess that rules that one out 🙂
23:50 gorgeous
So this is a problem. It appears all the great presets in the Nord 3 no longer exist in the Nord 4? If that is true, Nord has a big problem. First of all. -- if that's the case -- there are a lot more presets in a Nord 3 than a Nord 4. And if there is no "matchability" -- why would anybody upgrade unless they were going to keep both units; which is prohibitively expensive. The sound engine may sound fuller ... even magnificent -- but in the context of either a (1) live set or (3) a mix ... it WILL NOT translate. Why Nord wouldn't offer comparable presets with additions is total upgrade suicide. No?
What do you mean by presets? The Stage 4 has a Preset Library, which I have not shown here. The Stage 3, had synth presets only. If you mean Programs, then the Stage 4 has over 100 more programs than the Stage 3. If you are referring to Samples, as in the Nord Sample Library, then it is true that not all of the samples in the Nord Sample Library 3 are in the 4, and vice versa.
I would also say that we have far more narrowed down and immediately usable programs this time around. I owned the Stage 3 for 5 years and it was great, but I NEVER used a single one of its Programs, I just made my own. In the case of the Stage 4, I find many good Programs that work well in a live set, and solo. The main reason to go from the Stage 3 to the Stage 4, is the massively more powerful effects system, the triple sensor action, and the nearly full Wave 2 synth which replaces the A1 derived system in the Nord Stage 3. I do not see the Stage 4 as an upgrade so much as the next iteration of the Stage platform, into which Nord has incorporated the Wave 2 architecture, along with most of the tried and true features of the Stage 3. I disagree that the Stage 4 will not translate. All of it custom samples in nsmp3 format, have in fact been upgraded to nsmp4 format by the Sound Manager software as soon as I added them to the Stage 4. The only ones that will not, are the official Nord samples… but I deleted 99% of those anyway.
It´s not a problem at all as you simply don`t buy a Nord based on it`s pre programmed presets. You buy a Nord Stage to make your own programs. If you want a preset-maschine, buy a Yamaha Montage or a Roland Fantom instead. The Nord translates perfectly both live and in the studio. Just did a major gig with the Nord Stage as my main weapon, and it sounded gorgeous through the huge concert PA system. I think you are overly dramatic…..
@@theclaverman agree with your assessment 100%. I have never used a single preset in my Stage 3 and don’t now in my 4 - save the ones I’ve created.
I’m not hearing $5000 sounds, way way overpriced, Yamaha, korg, kurzweil, Roland sound just as good for less than half the money, this is an example of the market setting the price, if people are willing to pay the price then the price goes up, even their older models are way overpriced, and they have severe programming limitations
You have obviously never played a Nord……
Dare i go as far as to say, you don’t know what a quality piano sounds like…..
I have played a Nord, and every other brand, and let me say a piano is a piano is a piano, as long as it’s in tune it’s hard to mistake it for another instrument, and finally it’s not the instrument but the player
And a quality piano sound you say? How about a 9’ Steinway?
Is that a quality enough piano sound for you? And do you have stock in Nord? They’re way overpriced and limited in their programming ability
I’m just wondering because you paid out so much money for it that you want to believe it’s head and shoulders better than every other keyboard out there, but that’s just not the case, look up Nord comparisons to other brands, but don’t get me wrong, I really like the Nord stages, but not at that price or lack of certain features
Not digging sounds for the price some good most not usable-
I understand the sentiment - but I don’t know a single person who uses the built in programs. I certainly don’t. They shouldn’t be taken as an indication of what the instrument is capable of.