Mark Has Major PTSD From Killing Angstrom (Invincible's First Kill) Season 2 Episode 8
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I love that “the things I can do” isn’t Mark saying he’s too important for college. He’s afraid of trying to live a normal life when he knows he’s a murderer, when he knows if he loses control he could kill someone again.
Angstrom is going to come back later with a multiverse Mark army and Rex will die during the battle. Angstrom isn't dead
@@inaccurategameplay5766 I am I'm the guy who butt chugs the beers
@@MomJeans1738 moron
he is not a murderer
Won't be the last source of PTSD for Mark..
"Child, please. Being enraged at me doesn't make you stronger. That's not how it works."
Look Mark , I likes ya , now we could do this the easy way or my way.
“I hope you’re not talking about THAT scene 🤓” “wow can’t wait for THAT scene guys 🥸”
@@hoodgoth1I really can’t wait for “that” scene
@@hoodgoth1If we are both talking about THAT scene,
it’ll probably happen by the time of like season 4- 5
The down HORRENDOUS fools won’t be able to get their sauce till like 2067
Only a monster kills without feeling.
While Mark was justified, since Levy was insane and ready to kill Debbie and Oliver, the fact is that he is now afraid of his real power. That is what makes him different from Nolan and the other Viltrumites, understanding just how much damage he can really cause if he isn't careful.
A good sort of human POV of having powers
Eeyup.
It’s dumb. His restraint is why he loses every fight
@@vbar964true, but this is the fight he kinda wish he didn't win like this
@@vbar964 Yea do people not remember when he fought that Viltrumite lady with hair blade and how he froze when he had the upperhand and should've finished the fight and she took advantage of his hesitation and stabbed him in the stomach?
Mark’s humanity is what sets him apart from the other Viltrumites and it’s also affected Nolan, too.
Mark just can’t catch a break. I wish I could give him a hug.
He's been through so much :'(
Yeah, me too.
I wish i could hug him too
From what I see he's bassicly the Spiderman equivalent of invincible. The writers just love to put my boy through hell . I haven't read the comics , but I know THAT event with Anissa , and a few more , and oohh brother .... He'll need alot of hugs to recover
Apparently he’s about to go through much more
Mark reacted the way any son would react when his family is threatened or worse, harmed, as was this instance. Angstrom had this coming.
Facts
Agreed
Exactly
Acted like any son would EXCEPT he clearly wasn't aware of the scope of his capabilities. The problem is he kept on bashing while the body was dead already
Angstrom survived that somehow 💀
Steven Yuen deserves all the possible awards for voice acting for this episode.
Dammit, once again Robert Kirkman delivers another gut wrenching season finale. Invincible is the last show I expected to have me shedding tears.
Animation could a flexed a bit more tho
@@Adoniss99 lowkey, atleast on the most important flying scene of the finale
Dc and marvel better
@@Adoniss99 I have no complaints about it
@@Marcus-ge5lw whatever helps you sleep at night
You'd think he'd still be bothered by that train full of people he got in his mouth.
He likely is but that was his dad who did that, Mark did this all on his own.
@@Ashbrash1998 hard to believe that his life gets worse than tasting a train of people.
I mean whilst not stated, he's been through so much since then, its gotta be all adding up. I think it's why he kept saying you weren't there to Cecil, he didn't see a difference between what Nolan did to him and what he did to Angstrom. This finale hit so much different than s1, but just as hard
It starts. The wave of emotional anguish and self-torture. The over-emotional impasse of wondering whether or not we’re still ourselves, or we have now become what we hate, what we feared to become in the future. This is THAT moment for Mark!
The more I think about it, Mark got extremely lucky that when he lost control it was in an unpopulated wasteland. If this had happened in a city or more populated area it could of been REAL BAD.
The way mark just wails after realizing what he did is soul crushing. Poor baby doesn't deserve this 😭
He's a man not a baby and you don't get into this line if work without expecting to end someone's life, sometimes if not usually for the better
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 bro zip it
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 who gave lucan a YT account
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161super heroes can have trauma too..
This is just the beginning of his trauma, we haven’t seen the worse yet…
Mark after beating someone to death : "NO WHAT DID I DO I'M BECOMING MY FATHERINOOOO"
Rex after beating someone to death : "LMAO I'M INVINCIBLE"
Angstrom is going to come back later with a multiverse Mark army and Rex will die during the battle. Angstrom isn't dead
@@MomJeans1738uh huh sure buddy whatever you say
@@MomJeans1738 🤡 🤡 🤡
@@Goro_Maj1ma Robot betrays the Guardians and takes Cecil's life later in the series. He is also the final villain of the series
@@MomJeans1738ok honey go take your medicine
1:55 there's a dimension where they didn't show up and he ended up eating angstrom or what was left of him this is the same verse where cannibal mark was created.
Wasn't angstrom like... all the angstroms?
@@MCNarret Yes Ansgtrom is unique. He mad that up. What he is referring to is and event occured after "invincible wars" where Ansgtrom teamed up with alternate dimension marks to hunt ours down, and betrayed them at the end by sending them to that deserted world. Only one make remained, who survived feeding up from other marks that was stranded with him. Thats the not made up story of the cannibal mark.
@@askkutay ya... I think I remember that, thanks.
That Cannibal Mark was a Cannibal from the very beginning. If you know who he is, then you would have a guess what he did to Angstrom's love one.
Nope. That was evil mark with the cape and Black goggles. That's the one who becomes the cannibal. And he eats the other evil Marks who Angstrom strands there with him btw
"Think, Angstrom, think"
I love those words that Cecil comforts Mark with: “Bad guys are usually the ones who break people’s arms”. At some point a man like Cecil has to boil morality down to something like that to do what they do. Simplistic of a principle as it is, it’s what Mark needs to hear.
just the mix of the song in the background while showing Mark's PTSD aftermath and remembering all he's been throught make this a very powerful and emotional scene, makes you actually feel his pain
Steven Yeun’s voice acting was phenomenal here
*I feel for Mark.* 🥺 The *struggles he had & how much power he was holding back* to be *Less like his Dad.*
Deep breaths Marky, deep deep breaths
If only that was Marks nickname in the comics and not…
Well… we’ll get there eventually. 💀
@@cadenmorris3680LOLLL
Deep wang deeeep wang
I think this show is more realistic when it comes to heroism than any other things I watched. It taps the reality of having PTSD and the importance of power and how hard it is to live normally when everyone u love is in danger everyday
In the beggining Mark was the one telling Cecil he was not like his father, now at the end Cecil is the one telling him hes not.
The show is making Cecil way better so far
Steven should win an award for his performance in this episode. The pain and confusion in his voice was so raw
Steven Yuen is an excellent voice actor and I absolutely love hearing his voice in one of my favorite shows
Thank you for posting this scene Steven Yuen does an amazing job acting his emotions and I’ve had a lot of trouble searching for this scene
In Mark's defence, Angstrom deserved every punch, and every inch of his body being turned into jam
All versions of Invincible but this is a good guy, while all versions of Angstrom, but that one, was victim, but it isn't anything that allowed him to be such SOAB
What's SOAB?
@@trevturp6891son of a b
@@trevturp6891Means "Son of a ...."
Mark is about to get more ptsd when he finally have his blue and black suit in season 3
I love the mental journey Mark takes from "I had to do it." and then he walks it through all the way to make sure he's aware of what he did and why.
He doesn't want to leave it as a justification. He hates what he did. But he wanted it. And not for the right reasons, but definitely for VALID reasons.
The scene of him crying in the hospital with his mom broke me.
that’s just the beginning of Mark’s PTSD
*YOU'RE MY SPECIAL* 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mark really got the "I've won, but at what cost?" type of PTSD.
"Your not him"💀💀💀
The voice acting is so good
I wanna give bro a hug rn . . .
See you in Helheim Angstrom
I feel SO bad for Mark
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*One act pushes anybody limits even it meant to protect ones family & regret the actions later. He really tried to be different than his dad (even his Viltramite culture)* 😢
Towards the end of this season, Cecil and Donald have really pushed the older adult/almost parental figure (grandparent/uncle) with other characters. Part of me genuinely wonders how me of it in the series will continue to appear legitimate vs. how much is to reach specific goals. Cecil sounds like he is both trying to reassure Mark and convincing himself that this will not turn out like it did with Nolan/Omni-man even if that means stepping into the role of father figure/grandpa for Mark. Will he keep his word to Debbie about looking out for him? I kind of hope so but have my reservations on the subject.
Confirm invincible is not him😂
Not yet.
I mean I doubt you can do the same thing man.
It's easy to bark when you don't have to bite.
@@internetgoat4831 the comment meant that Cecil said he was not him. Referring to his father. But all he said was "you're not him"
1:58 teasing cannibal mark
It makes me think of the 'Man Of Steel' climax that Superman has to do, even though he did not want to do it.
All because the villain threatened to kill more people
Except that wasn’t executed right
I like how cecils behavior contrasts to how he was in episode 1 of season 2 where he had doubts about who mark was but this definitely prooved to cecil that mark is a good egg and wouldn't willing kill anyone.
How can you have “Post” Traumatic Event Disorder if you have one traumatic event after the other?
Mark: damn this is the worst thing ever!
Anissa: YET! 😂😂😂😂
This scene reminds me how Steven Universe reacted after he shattered Jasper. 😢
This makes me respect Cecil talking to Mark
Mark vs conquest is one of the best fights in the series can't wait to see in animated
That is a lot of blood.
Congratulations Mark you popped your cherry
Craig manslaughter 2:24
Mark you lose yourself for a mintune everyone does that but i understand why you scared of doing it again but under thouse conditions no one in there right mind would not lose all control again with your power set it okay to scared of this happening again. Madye condier rejoining the guardains haveing other people around you that can help however little can still help you stop that form this happening again.
What’s the song at the end ?
Mark:WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS?!?
What’s the name of the song in the background
I don't watch the show but I saw this clip on reels and don't blame him. The massive head dude said he'd hurt his family. I'd be the same too Mark... When the worlds bad, you got to save what little joy you have in the world and never let anyone take it from you. Be greedy.
Just because the world around you became bad doesn't mean YOU have to, even if we all think it's "fair". Not trying to say it's wrong but we can't act like this is perfectly fine because it's really just an excuse to do bad and get away with it.
So when does conquest show up?
I wonder who likes to see a video that cuts parts all the time
The "i thought you were stronger" line can mean 2 things...
1) he's referring to himself... belittling himself over his inability to control himself.
2) he's referring to Angstrom... he thought Angstrom was stronger and would've survived~ the onslaught.
If he thought he was stronger, wait until he meets Conquest.
5hat not exactly what he meant he thought he emotionally stronger than that at end of the day mark is a human and vilamiet I know I spelled it wrong I really do try.
Next season 13 reason why arc
I wonder what Mark meant that he himself kinda won after realizing he's stuck?
in the comics he says he kinda won indtead of i kinda won
“Kill” is a strong word
How so? He punched a man until he was dead, how is that not by definition killing someone?
Murder, sure, that would be inaccurate. Not exactly premeditated.
@@GrintockAngstrom is going to come back later with a multiverse Mark army and Rex will die during the battle. Angstrom isn't dead
Mark lost his original world
It’d be nice for Mark to have explained to Debbie that he couldn’t live more than 100 years functioning as a same named practitioner of medicine 😂 wouldn’t make sense for a lot of humans
Crazy to think if you read the comics, Angstrom was still alive and escaped while his head is a pile of spilled chili
Its me or mark looks more muscular now?
Angstrom had zero justification for going after Mark. If he hated him because of the evil versions then he should have gone after them instead of the good one and his innocent mother and brother.
Angstrom was insane by that point the good Mark did/the fact he wasn’t evil ran against literally every other memory of Mark from the other universes where he was evil. To him at this point it was utterly inconceivable there was a “good” Mark and not one who didn’t deserve to die. He was thrashing around and raging at the very *idea* of having saved Mark.
@@thomasraines1396 Mark isn’t angry that he killed him but HOW he killed him. A dog with rabies should be shot once with a gun, not get its brains bashed in. Basically the same mentality.
But still Angstrom admitted the best scientists in other universes couldn’t fix him. Mark ended Angstrom’s suffering either way.
Question. Is this how people are supposed to feel should they ever be met with a reality of having to kill someone? I have not had that to happen to me, but watching these kind of clips i fail to see the ptsd consept. If someone is trying to kill you, why would you feel bad killing them?
Mark is scared of becoming a bloodthirsty monster like his father, the beating looked very similar to when Nolan beat up mark on the mountain
Mark isn't a normal person. He is a superhero and has always idolized that concept and the moral good that it is supposed to represent. He is incredibly hard on himself to do the right thing to the point of neglecting his needs as an individual. This moral strength though is what he has clung to and allowed him to keep getting back up in the face of so many traumatic events he has been through throughout this series. By killing Angstrom, even if Angstrom deserved it, he proves that he is not the ideal he has tried to live up to and all the trauma he has managed to compartmentalize until now is crushing him.
Basically, he "thought he(himself) was stronger..."
Like a comment above me said, his rage, his bloodlust, and even the way he attacked Angstrom at the end, it reminded him of what his father could do, and he's scared that since he has the same powers, and he crossed the line once, what's gonna happen if he keeps crossing the line? How much destruction could he cause?
There is a sinister parallel between Sinclair and Anstrong. They are both extremely intelligent humans who seek to create a utopia, and that makes them more dangerous than any other villain whose only purpose is to steal or kill.
Both characters are foolish enough to believe they can play God. And foolish people with power do a lot of damage.
The biggest crimes in the past century were committed by humans with a completely broken moral compass who thought they were doing good. And they brought hell to Earth,
Both Sinclair and Anstrong hurt people in Mark's personal circle, and of course, he reacted in a different way than he would if they did it to anonymous civilians.
While Mark in his confrontation with Sinclair avoided killing him (despite destroying his jaw) in the case of Armstrong he could not do the same.
Mark was quite angry and stressed after that hostage situation with his family, Armstrong did not fall unconscious when he started hitting him and he was teleporting him to several universes, so he lost his cool for longer than with Sinclair.
Obviously Armstrong had to die to prevent his madness from causing irreparable damage, and he was suffering enormously so death was a relief for him.
No one blames Mark for killing him, he didn't give her much choice and it was an accident anyway. But this sends an ominous message to Invincible.
He still doesn't know how to control his strength and he still doesn't have the nerves of steel to face a hostage situation, especially if they are known people.
Obviously he has PTSD and a hard time, since killing is not something that leaves you indifferent.
Plus, there's the whole thing with Omni Man and the Viltrumites, so that adds even more pressure on him.
Angstrom is just a warm up before the main event with Anissa.
It's not that Mark didn't have a choice, he did make a choice and chose to kill Angstrom. What matters is that he made the right choice. Angstrom threatened a defenseless a nine month old baby and beat an innocent woman. Mark may not have wanted to, but it's something that he should do. Him wanting to kill Angstrom to protect his family is the most human thing a person can do.
angstrom deserved it all
As much as I enjoy this series, it has a major "tell, don't show" problem. Even the music is painfully on the nose at times
Angstrom is still alive he will appear in the next season to attack Mark with an army of evil Invincibles
Yes that likely will happen next season, by the end of season 3
This ending is kinda lame, Mark killed a guy that wanted to kill his family and cried for straight minute about it but when he realized he cannot come back from this dimension to see his family he was like "that's a shame".
This is just setting up for what's to come, buddy. If you read the comics, you'd know this is just building up for Mark questioning his morals as a hero.
Hate when characters are so corny, like it’s some star wars entering the dark side or batman’s ego.
Break my moms arm and the same thing is happening every time , idk why mark felt bad
I just realized something: why didn’t he fly into space in that universe with the barren Earth?
Haven’t discover he could do that yet I think
@kevinreyes1145 he has, multiple times.
It'd be a gamble. He has no idea if the planets are the same, or if they'd have a breathable atmosphere.
Plus so far when he's traveled into space it's been for brief moments. Moon and back at best. He's not certain of how far he could go before running out of air.
Because it took weeks to fly to Mars and that is the nearest inhabited planet we are aware of. He also doesn't really know the way.
Mark is a bit too emotional to the point where he lets his emotions cloud rational judgment
I mean, can you blame him? He killed a deranged psychopath after threatening his family. That'll bring a ton of emotional trauma onto a kid like Mark.
What exactly do you mean here? It is pretty rational to recognize that going to college isn't really a good choice for him as he really needs to give his 100% to being a better hero, especially with the threat of the Viltrumites.
@@joelsasmad that after he got some of it out the supper fast flight it was because he was problems with not fast effort to save his loved ones amber and his mom and brother he letting some serious steam the so munch so he think clearly again
Angstrom was wrong. He wasn't stronger. He could NEVER match up to a Viltrumite's strength.
Mark, listen to me. Levy went after your mother and little brother. He broke her arm. Those actions alone were automatic death sentences. 🙁
Dude, why are you acting like Mark's real? Share and state your opinions with US, not the fictional characters. LOL
@@dnmstarsi Why are you replying to me? 😐
@@origamipein18 Why did you respond? You CAN ignore me if you have a problem with my comment. And at least, I'm not being THAT serious with my response even if it's weird that you're directly talking to a fictional character about why you think he shouldn't feel bad about that moment.
@@dnmstarsi Lots of people do what I do. |:
@@origamipein18 Not at all. You're mistaking your comment for role play which is what most folks normally do. What you did is not role play or w.e. you think is normal. It's weird much like Mark talking to himself.
Dudes weak, bitching and crying about killing a dude who was ready to butcher his family.
He felt bad because he lost control. Losing control means if he was slightly angered he would put everyone around him in danger. And that is not something he never wants to do because succumbing to anger and violence would make him no different to Omniman and all the other Viltrumites.
this show is killing me sometimes
You know what I dont understand when Allen the alien was searching for mark they telepathy talk to each other, but when Mark was trying to stop a metor he was talking perfectly with his father why can't he do that when immortal attacked allen
Because when Mark and Nolan was catching the asteroid, they were still near the Earth's atmosphhere