Why Aren't Baby Turtles Sold Anymore?
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A little histroy and info today!
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My mom still has her two turtles from this and needless to say they're spoiled and have a $3,000 tank that was custom-built that's 600 gallons
You need to back this claim up with video and documentation…
@@TheFrogfeeder They don’t have to prove anything. You can choose for yourself whether or not you want to believe in it.
@@DrudI’m pretty sure they just want to see that awesome setup., because I do.
Wow that is amazing and I also have a huge tank with a red eared slider turtle and he is about 28 years old already they can outlive us I’m sure😂
@@TheFrogfeederwhy does she have to prove anything to you?why can’t you just thank her for telling her story and move on?jeeesh😮
I actually kinda like that young turtles aren’t able to be sold, it keeps people from buying them as cute tiny little quarter sized pets and making an impulse purchase because they’re “just so darn cute and irresistible and it’ll stay small if I keep it in a small tank yadda yadda” I think if people really want a pet turtle they should be prepared to house an adult turtle, not buy one and like it for less than a year and then try getting rid of it because it’s not small and cute anymore. Sucks that dedicated people have limited options and usually won’t be able to enjoy that cute baby turtle phase but it’s worth it so we can weed out all the average Joe’s that just want a cute pet that they’ll end up abusing in less than a year because they don’t know turtle care or can’t afford proper care.
One time when I was much younger I made an impulse purchase, it was a gecko. I was so unprepared I didn't even know what species it was. I was lucky enough to know a family friend in the reptile hobby and thankfully he was able to take it in a few days after I bought it. Never buy based on feelings or looks, buy because you actually care and are ready.
@@GroundhogKim 14 year old me wanted two turtles. She was an idiot but now I have two adult turtles living in a 100 gallon stock tank in my living room, just glad I have the space for them and space for a final upgrade coming within a year or two
what a great video Dan!! wash your freakin hands people!
Thank you! This was a fun one
Great video! I'm often asked if I'm worried about getting salmonella from my turtles. I tell them, "No! Cause I don't plan on licking them or putting them in my mouth." Lol The whole thing boiled down to parents not being responsible. Those DBTs are adorable! ❤🐢
I remember when I was younger (started turtle keeping around 5 or 6) I went to chinatown la and got some turtles. They lived in that dumb old plastic carrier and one died. That worried me so I started doing endless research.
Mom buy me a filter! Mom buy me a 50 gallon tank! Mom buy me water melon!
It was pretty insane but I got the supplies. I never touched them fortunately since I knew about salmonella prior because of school.
Turtles are still alive.
There's a store in my town that's selling baby turtles with the little island in closures 🤦🏼♀️
God the babies are so cute!
story time: about 5 years ago my grandma and some other people on my dad's side of my family went to Florida. they got me a baby yellow belly slider. flash forward to the winter(i live in new England) of that year, my turtle sadly passed away. We took good care of it and i still to this day don't know how my little buddy passed away.
Unfortunately baby turtles are sensitive. It could have been a lot of things, maybe even something genetic like a deformity. I'm sorry for your loss
Kids tasting turtles😂😂 what the heck’s?! Great video and editing, also you looking buff bro 👍 💪
Haha thank you Jerek!
Speaking of things being very prevalent in the relatively near past (
I'm Korean, but I have four turtles. Lee is a baby common musk turtle that I bought in a shop- she's so small ^^ I think that the rest of them were bought as babies, too?? They're really big, but still lovable :))
Honestly I have red eard sliders with the whole filter and lamp setup I've had them for years and honestly I enjoy just watching them swim around and enjoy their watery life
Great info too
Great vid
I live in Florida they still got babies where I live at least and I love how kids popped turtles into there mouth like that stupid ti pod challenge XD
I thought the reason was that a lot of people were keeping turtles in bad conditions, or many of them were abandoned and because of that they became an invasive species in many places. But nope it was because of salmonella
Well, that was and still is the actual problem.
I also saw a YT video earlier today saying in NC that so many ended up getting released into the wild here they were bullying the native painted turtles as well and since they grow much faster than the native turtle species here, that was also a problem. Still looking for that video ...
Great info for people looking to pick up a turt for a pet also the spotted turt are freakin adorable. My kids and I Love the content keep it going man!!!
Same for red bellied salamanders. You can find them on most big petstores in the 90s but can't find one now. (Well, can't find one where I live)
So true! I had a pair for years as a kid. This was back in the early 90s. They don't sell them anywhere in Florida anymore to my knowledge...
That is very true
wow! I had 5 little turtles when I was young. they where part of the family and live in the living room. we had a cool tank for them withcleqn water, rocks and plants. thanks for the video
Well, this makes me feel better. The RES hatchling I found in my parents’ garage is about 2 months old now, and I have been freaking out every time I clean its tank. Like I glove up and then sanitize every surface that possibly could have been touched by me or the water. I still can’t believe that I have a RES and take care of it like it’s my own flesh and blood child. Where I live they are very invasive and overpopulated. I used to go fishing at a small-ish private lake, and I finally stopped because the only thing that got on my hook were turtles. 🤦🏽♀️ Now here I am spending a lot of money to keep this thing alive, happy, and healthy. I even talk to it like it can understand me every time I walk by its tank. 😂
I didn't buy mine.. I found two baby sliders in my pool. No idea where they came from but luckily I knew what I was doing. They are now 2 years old is my guess... They were pretty much hatchlings when the pool guy netted them out.
These are still prevalent in many cities, unfortunately. China town and downtown Los Angeles have baby turtles in tiny tanks absolutely everywhere!
I have reported every stand and even went so far to speak to officers in the area, they literally laughed at me!
@@myaaghasi5914 Yeah, as someone who lives kinda in the area, law enforcement just doesn't care. It's become too normalized to be taken care of, and ofc the police just don't care, in general...
It frustrates me seeing all the turtles, as I have some myself (impulse buy from my parents long ago and a neighbor, who just handed her turtle to us), and I've been struggling a bit to learn everything and put them in better living conditions. I can't imagine what it's like for people without the resources or awareness -- that you don't just shove a turtle in a tank and call it a day. Just seeing the way they're all handled in LA, it saddens me. They need better conditions than those they're put in, and they're wonderful creatures... The least we can do is try to care for them properly, and do our research :(
I can honestly say I have never gotten salmonella from baby turtles or any of the reptiles we had growing up. we also had a cleaning schedule and a good set up. I’ve never even heard that you could before. This is a first on me. (Sorry for any spelling errors have cat help)
20 years ago, my wife's father got her a baby turtle, thinking it was gonna die in a week. The turtle is still kicking and is spoiled with a 75 gal tank.
internet really helping us today for how to raise animals
I unfortunately cannot have lights for mine. They get sunlight and mine crawls and sits on top of my hand or leg if i am sitting by their enclosure even if they are sleeping, they wake up and just sits and relaxes right next to me
Turtles NEED UVB Ray's for proper growth & health. If your turtles are outside, GREAT! They will get the needed Ray's from the Direct sunlight. However, if they are inside, & the light they are getting is through a window, they are getting NONE of those much Needed rays.. Glass filters out 100% of the UVB Ray's. Screen filters out around 50% of UVB Ray's..
We have sliders in Idaho and I had one when I was a girl. Where did all those little baby sliders come from? And of the ones that didn't die. Were they just set free? It is now against the law here to own a slider.
my mom bought a red eared slider in a shop at chinatown last summer and now he is in a bigger tank and is alot more happy
61 y.o. - I used to beg my parents for these, thank God they never let me get them. I couldn't even keep a GI Joe in one piece.
I have 2 red ear sliders - love them
I imagined the profit to loss ratio also had a big impact. Pet stores use breeders and only a portion of the offspring live long or at all from over breeding pairs or inbreeding so selling only the adolescent or adult animals leads to less maintenance (having to remove the dead ones from display tanks, potentially quarantining the remaining ones) and less returns/refunds. It's more commonly known with snakes since they're bred for specific traits to an extreme and once a trait is successfully bred that snake becomes a breeder snake to get more offspring with that trait.
I nearly died of sepsis caused by salmonella from cleaning out my little corn snake’s tank. I’d had it for 6 years with no problems, because with young kids, I was a germaphobe. I’d swear I could feel bacteria on my hands and washed very frequently. That day was no different. Our best guess is that because the substrate was completely dried out, when I emptied that monster into a trash bag in the garage, it was windy. The theory is that I ingested enough that had become airborne or my hair blew across my face and I repeatedly cleared it from my vision, touching the hair that had blown into my mouth and then cleared by my nasty hands that one way or another, I was infected by salmonella. 6 hours later I was nauseated, which lasted s as ll night, then during the early morning things began exploding from the other direction. By 10am I was in the ER with a 102.7F fever. By the time I was called back I had no control of what was being expelled from my body and my temperature was 104.5F. I was admitted to a ward, but some time later I woke to find my bed being moved around the hospital by a team of people wearing what looked like HAZMAT suits. I asked where I was headed, and learned I was headed to Intensive Care. I stayed unconscious there, mostly, with sepsis that was actively trying to kill me while the ICU docs gave me gallons of antibiotics that, 6 days later, worked, killing the infestation of my body. After a bout with hospital-acquired pneumonia, a month later I went home. What I didn’t know was that the Levoquin, a Fluoroquinolone antibiotic with two Black Box warnings that I’d been given gallons of- followed through on those Black Box warnings, and I’m a useless, bedridden lump of searing pain that nothing controls, and I’m only going to get worse.
We gave the snake away to someone who fully understood the risks- my Primary Care Doctor. It has been 8 years since the sepsis. My life expectancy is shorter, but no one can say how much shorter.
My point, and I did have one, was that I washed my hands. In scalding hot water using antibacterial soap until they were raw. More than once. And I was still infected with salmonella by a reptile that was kept according to the directions found on the Internet from a reputable source.
I still wasn’t safe. Leave reptiles to professionals. It truly isn’t worth the risk to own one as a pet. Get a dog. Or a pet rock. They’re less likely to lead to the place I’m in and cost millions of $$$$$ from the initial ER visit to the multiple doctors I still have to see and the prescription copay for covered meds or full price for the uncovered ones.
Lol
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today fr fr
Sometimes people are not the smartest. Your babies are so darn cute!
Fantastic vid Dan! I loved the new style 😃🐢
omg ....I had one of the turtles with the palm tree but the container he came in was like a bowl he crawled out and disappeared for like 3 months and 1 day we heard a scratching sound it was him !!!!!!He was alot bigger we couldn't believe it we ended up putting him in a pond bc he was like 5 times the size he was!!!!!!
"plopping turtles in their mouths" ok so woever does that should learn a lesson
They still have these stores in Daytona Florida
My turtle won't eat unless i'm not in the room
Still have in Arizona unfortunately
Well here in Germany we sell baby turtles everywhere and I have never heard of a salmonella case but you are warend by keepers, breeders, ect. because they CAN carry salmonella so that's why it's not recommended to get one from the wild or anywhere else. Also you are always adviced here that you are supposed to wash your hands after handling a reptile and also to not lick it or touch your mouth after handling a reptile.
I just looked it up and that bill was passed in 1975.. I know for a fact the RES I'm homing now is about 15-16 years old and my brother got it from a pet shop when it was only the size of a 50 cent piece.
What kind of foliage do you have in your tank?
My hubby found a hatchling all dried out and stuck, eyes to the skies in grass.
He brought it home.
I researched like a mad woman.
Daniel is my son.
No salmonella here. And we wash our hands right after handling him, which is rare. I have a super hyper four year old and he washes his hands when touching Daniel.
I do feed him in his tank though, but we got that good bacteria going and keeping it clean!
Thanks for this video! I had no idea that's why they weren't selling them anymore.
My local pet shop has baby turtles available, I even seen baby side necks and painted turtles
I wish that only exotic pet stores could sell them because the only reason that happens was because of plates like PetSmart and petco not to name any names or anything
5:25 the wink ;)
Government is run by lizard people ....
I mean you're not wrong Dan.
Love Turtles 🐢
Oh and if you do not mind can you pls do one video of how to take care of sick turtle instead of bring it to the vet
Part of the reason turtles got so popular was TMNT. So people started carrying turtles to cash in on the new pet craze. When they were revealed to be RES, the popularity of that species went sky high so they could sell droves of them to kids who wanted a ninja turtle. RES, however, are horrible for beginners to have, at least without a lot of prep. They get big, they grow fast, and even for turtles they are very messy. They are also some of the hardiest turtles ever, so they can live in just about any freshwater environment, and I’ve even seen some wandering around in brackish water. Add that to the popular myth that turtles grow to the tank size and you had a bad situation. When the parents got tired of them or the turtles didn’t stay small, they would wait for the kids to be out of the house and dump the turtles wherever they could, which would lead to the kids wanting a new one to repeat the cycle.
Another thing that kept happening was kids getting sick. Anyone who keeps aquatic turtles knows that they pee, A LOT, and it’s one of their defensive options. When younger kids put the baby turtles in their mouths, it would pee to make them let go causing the kids to get sick from having a unhygienic turtle peeing in their mouths. Or even swallowing them if the turtles were small enough, so all that bacteria went straight into their bodies and caused major problems.
Even under bad conditions turtles are some of the most bulletproof pets you can get. Even the shortest lived ones live decades if given the space. For example, Sylvester Stallone still has Cuff and Link from Rocky and they are thriving, if a bit stunted from what I saw. You can tell Stallone cares for them a lot, since they weren’t just one time props in a movie, they’ve been with him since Rocky and not gotten rid of like most animals used at the time.
You're going to get salmonella! Lol 😂
I'll betcha $50 I never do 😝
@@DanTheTurtleMan_ well if you did it probably wouldn't be from the turtles.
If anyone is going to get salmonella...it would be me. I kiss my pets snakes!
First?
You can find them all over the place in downtown LA
so what if the turtle is under four inches as an adult? Like the Stinkpot, or other musk turtles
In Chinatown In LA they are EVERYWHERE
Second! :)
In Chicago on 47 and Chinatown they sell baby turtles for 20 with the plastic tank and food
First maybe
Just go to the flea market in there still a lot of baby, red ear sliders
You are the most informative and truly care about all turtles!!! Have you always been into turtles or did you start with something else? Just curious THANKS!! YOU'RE STILL THE BEST!!!
Great videos and info!
Unfortunately they are still being sold like crazy in LA
Because it’s already in Manila
They still sold baby turtles in the early 80s, sooo 83 84. When was the bill passed?
Now I have to order everything online or from people I know lol , all the pet stores in Houston stopped selling the “good stuff” 😅☹️☹️☹️
What kind of turtles are those you are feeding? He’s so cute.
You can still purchase them in New York
My brother just got a baby turtle with that exact enclosure and Lil palm tree inside 😮 what should I do? He got it from trip a in Chicago, china town
Good for the turtles though, they deserve better
Nowadays in my country, they're on average $4 :')
Growing up in the 60s and 70s the Woolworths had tanks full of them . Unfortunately, our parents thought that the plastic round bowls with the islands and trees were a perfect habitat 😩and they didn’t live too long . But we never got sick from them .
If you ever go to Turtle Pond in Central Park ( next to the Castle behind the Met Museum of Art ) in warm weather you would be shocked at how filled it is with all of those grown up pet store turtles . People bring their kids there .. it is an amazing sight.
My grandsons really want a turtle. I was thinking of taking a net and visiting a pound near their house. We had a manmade fish pound growing up, and l snagged a couple of painted turtles that way.
I really enjoyed this and l don’t know what type of turtles you have , but they are adorable 🥰
I've been there many times! It's really interesting to see
I’ve had turtles and never had Salmonella
I just haven’t, people in the 70s didn’t cut click” on anything !
We actually had to Read shit in the newspaper !😂😂😂😂
Do you know where you can find them now?
Im guilty of that lol... but I was a lil kid
They still had them in Venezuela back in 2019, though it was rarer and rarer
you can still technally buy baby turtles. people found a loophole., if you buy a baby online they will sell it for "educational purpose's"
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4:08 what type of turtle is this?
What food do you use?
Commenting because I can. ;)
Do you sell turtles?
Where can I get a cute baby turtle? Can they live in groups? Doesn’t the water have to be filtered and cleaned like a fish?
Yes, I have them on my Patreon every spring! Yes with enough size, and yes it needs to be filtered and usually heated
People are like why do you have turtles they’re deadly to me
And I’m like you idiot if I wash my hands I’m fone
I see baby turtles for sale a lot
They sell them in my china town I'm doing research into getting one cause I feel bad for them
go to flea market to find some
Actually my country still sell
U sell turtles?
well uhh i dont have uvb lights or heat lights so i put my turtle in the sunlight
IVE TOLD EVERYONE THIS FACT AND NO ONE BELEIVES ME!!!!!
Holy sh*t I stopped watching u for a bit and I had 10k now u have almost 60 that’s insane
I have a slider it cost 25 it is growing biger faster😊
I love it
All of my turtles are for educational purposes as well.
It was for the wrong reasons, but it was a good thing the sale of baby turtles was banned. The industry you describe of breeding baby sliders in bulk to sell at malls and corner stores led to a widespread animal disaster (which you mention) and an even worse ecological disaster. Sliders are invasive across the entire continental USA, Europe, South America, Australia, and Asia, where they compete and frequently outcompete endemic species due to being large, hardy, and aggressive. If anything, more legislation to prevent the spread of slider turtles via irresponsible and unethical breeding and sales is needed to have any hope curbing their spread. But it's probably too late, seeing as how prevalent they are now all over the world and how the issue is only likely to get worse as the climate warms, creating even more suitable habitat for them.
The little guy in my profile picture is a baby RES that was found in a university campus pond, likely released there by a careless student who didn't know what they were doing was wrong and potentially dangerous.
I got one but it died out
Bro I just got a baby turtle (boy and girl, I got two) a few weeks ago-
I ever got them but im a kid i got them at 2021 but they died😔
I gots so much saminilla haha I get same messages
Aww :( i wanted to buy a baby turtle:(
Hello can i get a mystery box turtle
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