REVIEW: Champion DUAL FUEL Propane / Gasoline Generator
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OK. What is the propane run time RANGE for your 13.5 AC Sean? Your helpful subscribers have me looking at 9 to 14 hours. Your, or Kristie's, reply would really add to this already splendid review. Thank you!
Long Long Honeymoon trying to decide between the 3100 remote start and the 3400 remote start. Any reason to not go bigger? Obviously I’ll follow your link to amazon. Thanks for the help
Long Long Honeymoon Shawn are you by any chance selling any of the inverter generator you have that you are not using?
I bought this unit after much research and I completley agree with your review. Something you touched on but was the deciding factor for me was the reputation regarding customer service. When I first recieved my Champion I went through the recommended break in and was excited to try it out. Fired it up hooked to trailer tried the a/c and it went into overload right away. Called Champion. They walked me through about 45 minutes of troubleshooting and determined the module was bad. They sent a new one overnight delivery. It works great now. For the trouble they also sent my wife and I free champion polo shirts and a free cover for the unit. Now THAT is world class customer service.
Thanks for your comment. You just posted the deciding factor in my purchase.
Congratulations on your decision. I love mine and I honestly think you will yours too.
Hell yeah! Companies that sell defective products are the best!
@@PlanktoniusRex there always has to be one out there. Today its you.
Warning. I have this unit. If the battery is dead, you cannot start the generator at all ON GAS other than jumpstarting the battery. There is an internal relay that needs electricity to switch the unit from Propane to Gas. Pulling the card doesn't work because it won't get the gas due to the relay. Propane works fine without the battery.
(If you leave the battery on for a month, it will kill the battery requiring a replacement. I had to deal with that today)
Otherwise an excellent unit.
Thanks for the info. I was in Canada and mine wouldn't start after leaving the power switch on. I was worried it was a gas issue or something. I jumped my battery this morning and it fired right up. I let it run an hour and will check the battery in a few days to see if it held a charge.
JeffreyCentex trump
I wish I would've read this yesterday. I pulled the cord over and over and over and over after I left the battery switch on. I eventually got a jump pack top jump start the unit
When you say leave the battery on do you mean connected to the battery terminals?
Anything will require a new battery if you leave it on. Companies can’t fix stupid.
The fact that you review purchased products rather than "free from the manufacturer" products gives your channel the credibility that so many RV channel reviews lack. I don't remember ever watching a free product review that ended with the words, don't buy this. And thank you for not spending ten minutes filming unboxing. I never understood why that was a part of a product review.
There's several channels that will give an honest review, even for a product sent free from the manufacturer. Quite a different price range, but there are several lock picking channels that have no problem giving a huge thumbs down to the locks sent to them.
@@gregorysmith3097 that's great news 😉
Love love love this unit. Bought exact one last spring 2018. Used when we boondocked up in Grand Lake CO last summer and often since. No issues running 13.5 ac on propane as well or at high altitude. Highly recommend.
We have this generator and love it. We bought this generator because it could run on propane. We run ours using our low pressure propane port on our trailer, yes even the AC.
Champion customer service emailed us the instructions. It was a quick, easy, and cheap.
I bought this unit a few months ago, tested good. Gunna really put it through its paces when we take it for its first trip this weekend!
We added on an hour meter, and also converted the hose and regulator to work with the BBQ port on our trailer.
I have had mine a year. Only have run propane which runs cleaner than gasoline and less maintenance. Full service camp sites are getting hard to get into unless you reserve 3-4 months in advance. Having this low cost high quality generator has opened up a lot more dry camping options without losing the benefits of great coffee in the morning and ac when needed. The biggest advantage is keeping your batteries topped up. As to ease of starting, under my supervision, my 5 year grandson can fire it up. Love this product, great video on the product.
Hey Jim, what size A/C do you have? I was wondering if it will run a 15k BTU on propane.
Propane packs less power than gas so you wo won't get as many watts. I think about 10% less. Gas is available at every gas station. Propane isn't as readily available. 😉
Beauh Awk it runs our 15,000 BTU air conditioner on propane just fine at 7000 ft.
It's always exciting to watch a new Loloho video. Yet another great job on the Champion dual-fuel generator. Sean's sense of humor and witty sarcasm are truly appreciated, and are in my opinion, a big part of why your site is so successful. Where else can you learn so much and be so entertained at the same time? Kudos for the American flag behind the workbench! (Mike Carmouche)
I own two Champion gen sets, and have absolutely no complaints with either of them.
The newer one is a 3500 gas with remote control. When I got tilt, there was a problem with the amount of output...contacted their tech support, and they overnighted a new power control at no cost...great company with super customer service!
We broke in our 3400W dually and then promptly subjected it to the gauntlet of Mobile to Newfoundland. It performed excellent until our last couple of days. It got progressively louder and it turns out that the muffler vibration broke the exhaust manifold weld. I called Champion and they set me up with the repair without question and were super nice to boot. I recently used it pretty thoroughly and it performed flawlessly. I get 6 to 6.5 hours of runtime on gas with our 15K AC running full tilt. I absolutely love this generator, even with the hiccup. I haven't done anything on propane yet.
You are spot on about these generators. I have that exact model and love it so. Customer service will go out of their way to help you if you ever need it.
100 % of my run time has been on LPG. No need to carry gasoline sold me first. But option is there if I ever need to. Running my 15,000 btu a/c unit on LPG in economy mode also makes me happy.
thanks
Mark Reynolds can you run a fridge and lights also ?
@@normnilsson7208 excellent question. I can't believe he runs a 15,000 btu on eco mode! Does it kick up the more power and loud noisy mode every time the compressor goes back on? Besides using propane will decrease the power output by about 10%.
I bought this model about a year ago after watching your review on the remote control version you purchased. I used it on my first trip out in my toy hauler. It ran both my air conditioner and microwave at the same time. It works well and is not obnoxiously loud.
We have this. Love it, but my husband and I argued on which one to get. I wanted the remote control, he wanted duel fuel. He won. 😂 we also own the Honda 2000 inverter model, but can’t run the ac with that. We use the Honda with our truck camper and the Champion with our Sprinter. Thanks for another great video.
To me your videos are the best and most fun to watch and also you are my favorite RV couple on youtube.
Another great video. I bought the Champion 3500 watt / remote start and LOVE IT. The dual-fuel is on the list when we do more dry-camping. Keep up the great work you two.
Currently have he remote start unit that I purchased through your Amazon store. So far, more than satisfied. I do wish they came with an hour meter that I installed myself.
Cool video guys, weve been running this same unit almost 2 yrs now. Make sure to turn the battery off when you kill the generator, I forgot mine on one night and it was dead by morning.
We love this generator! Loved your review on the remote start! Works so well. We pair the duel fuel Champion with a Champion 2800 and they will run our entire rig. Thanks for the awesome generator reviews. You are my #1 when it comes to generators.
4 Moore Adventures 2 15k AC and all the fixins?
I have this image in my mind of you two sitting around thinking up ideas for these videos. It's great! LOL
THAT video made me buy a Champion 2 years ago, (Canadian version though), and I even bought a second one few weeks ago. I confirm that client support is outstanding. I had a small crack in the muffler, called them up, the rep took the time to look at the photo, and set the order for the replacement and all the accessories that were needed to perform the repair (I.e: gasket screws that might be in need for replacement... etc.)
That went way beyond my expectations Huge plus
Had this unit for two years..In Florida we have to worry about getting gas during hurricanes, so the option of propane for me was a no brainier. I have only run mine on propane, runs a 15000btu air, microwave, frig, with no problem.
Nice to see a small Champion unit. It would be a good way to go if our Honda ever dies.
We reviewed the larger Champion (9000w) Dual Fuel in a video a little while ago here on Relentless Homesteading for our homestead and it has been a great unit.
Watching this video reminded me of going out and getting the battery on the unit topped off.
Happy Trails
I have the gas remote model. Two years old and love it. The only issue was the battery, which I admittedly abused, failed after 18 months and spewed white acid dust in the housing. It started to corrode the metal parts inside. I cleaned it up and installed a new AGM battery and it works fine. I would buy this again. The Honda is quieter, but has a higher pitch which carriers farther than the Champion that has a lower pitch that doesn’t carry as far.
Robert Powers put Vaseline or Spark Guard on the terminals. Won’t corrode.
@@flynnzero9282 nice tip 😉
Excellent review Sean, I bought a 3100 dual fuel from Supergen remanufactured great unit powers my AC no problem the regulator malfunctioned after warranty was out I called and he shipped one out no charge ( a $100 part) fixed the issue! Happy camper!
I was in your town this weekend (two new babies in the family (born only one week apart)). It was hot!
I bought the electric start gas version (based largely on your report) a year ago and love it.
Haha yes it's TOO hot. I'm ready for some cool Montana summer nights!
ive had this one for 3+ years and it works fabulously, no problems at all
Another well-executed & appreciated review, Sean,. Looks like just the ticket for our 16’ Bambi. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Vestavia....
This dual fuel generator got us safely through Hurricane Harvey! A very useful suggestion is the addition of a run time hours meter.
We have a run time hours meter added to a couple of our other generators. Definitely a worthwhile purchase!
Chuckles Guitard what for ?
@@truckcampertraveler7369 During the storm we ran for 6 days waiting for power to be restored, oil change required every 100 running hours. In this case we could use the calendar, normally a hour meter would be more practical.
Absolutely.
@@chucklesguitard6957 understood never thought of that !
I have a 3100 watt unit, and I recently purchased a 3400. I have 2 trailers, so I have one mounted to a trailer and I’ll use the 3400 from my truck bed on the other. The 3100 has performed flawlessly, and has powered my 1500 AC. Unit on propane, and without any problems. I h
I do agree!! Champion did a great JOB! BUT you did a fantastic job on your TOTAL and PRECISE video!! Great job!!!
This is the video that sold me on dual fuel thank you so much Sean & Christy. And yes of course I bought it on your Amazon store thank you again for all the great reviews and grated vice.
I have a 50 amp fifth wheel that at 9000 feet altitude running both ac units I need to run two of these when using propane. So remember you will lose power if you are at altitude. This is the start of my third season with my two dual fuel Champion generators and they have performed flawlessly.
I bought a metal cart with big soft rubber wheels and strap it into that mostly for all the terrain concerns with those wheels. Also I can cover it up better related to rain and the like. Nice thorough review and the warnings for those Californians is great. They do need it.
I bought this same unit. For Mr this was too loud and I didn't want to be "that guy". I returned it and bought a micro air and a Honda 2200. I'm very glad I did. The noise was my only complaint with the champion. Oh, and the weight!
I've got this exact same gennie. I really like it. It is easy to use. I've never used it with gas, I prefer "propano". I leave it in the bed of my truck with the exhaust blowing out. Just be careful and not be in a hurry or distracted like I was 3 days ago and leave anything in front of the exhaust! I left my 2 Home Depot buckets sitting in front on the tailgate. It could've been a disaster.
I purchased this exact generator from your store this year and it has been great. My wife and I use it to power our toy hauler that we use to travel with our dogs to Frisbee dog competitions and performances. We replaced a cumbersome set up of two Honda EU2000 inverter generators with this unit. With the Hondas I had to lug them from the inside of the trailer, hook up the parallel wiring kit, hook up the extended run fuel tank, fill the tanks with gas, and then pull start each generator. Now I simply wheel the Champion down the ramp of the toy hauler and around the front and plug it into my trailers LPG system and push the electric start. I paid a RV service center to install a quick connector at my LPG tanks so I could make use of the two 30 gallon tanks of LPG. I had to call Champion customer service to find out what pressure the generator runs on (13-15”wc) to confirm this would work. Once I got to speak to someone they were great. I will also mention that the Hondas required a 15 amp to 30 amp adapter and their receptacle sits near the bottom without enough room for the cord to bend causing the plug to not be fully inserted. I love not having to carry a gas can. As far as noise I measured the two Hondas running together and they were only one dB less than the Champion. This is a great generator without the Honda price.
Thanks for your report! Many great points... Using your RV propane makes total sense, and the noise output vis-a-vis TWO Hondas is also a good point. While I wish these were a little more quiet, they offer great value for money and the noise output is not unreasonable.
Very nice review! You've definitely gotten me thinking about getting this dual fuel unit.
Awesome video! I bought two Lifan ESI3600iER Storm Series digital inverter generators four years ago and they still work great. I do wish they had a manual choke like your Champion though. Auto choke carburetors take longer to start sometimes. I really like the compactness of your Champion generator as well. If I were to purchase a replacement, this Champion would be the one. Thanks for the review. Best Wishes!
We bought the 3100 gas only/manual mode. The other models are not available in Canada though Champion is going to start something up here. We used it on a 5 month 24,000km trip including up to the Arctic Ocean at Tuktoyaktuk. It work flawlessly. And, it is quiet though a touch noisier than Honda but well worth the $ difference.
Been looking at this gen for a while now....like the dual fuel...thanks for a great review !
Hey! GREAT video for the champion generators...we really enjoy the way you measure and comment everything. You may not be NASA, but you two are doing a great job! Thanks for this. We are on the fence...don’t know if the remote thing with the other Champion is a must...or not! We won’t be full timers, but most certainly around cold weather (Canada Rockies skiers here).. LOL. Thanks LOLOHO! We love you! Remi, Montréal.
Great review. I would like to see one in the future comparing run times under similar load. Dare I say you have planned for this. Safe Travels Happy Camping.
We have the dual fuel and really like it. We got it because we do not want to carry gasoline. It was able to run our old camper’s 13500 btu AC at 8000 ft elevation without modification. It’s run our new camper’s 15000 btu AC at 3000 feet elevation but haven’t tried it at higher elevations. Champion sent us the adapter for higher elevation but I’m not sure how to put it on.
Love my champion 3400 w inverter generator with RV plug. I have had it for over 2years runs great. I think its the best for the money.
Excellent test as usual! You thought of EVERYTHING! 👏☺️
Excellent review. Thank you for being so thorough.
Had this same unit for about 3 years. Works great and had a self inflicted battery issue first year and customer service was great. Sent me 2 new batteries and 2 champion shirts free of charge.
Champion customer service is really great.
Probably the best generator review I've seen on the inter webz. Those cicada bugs are insane! Alien creepy also...
I am thinking of getting this model. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for "the things that you do for us" Loved the video.
I have the same model for about 2 years. Still going srong no issues. Even the battery held enough charge to start first try when pulled from winter storage, I didnt have it hooked up to a charger. Even got to experence their customer service when I bought it. Upon umboxing the regulator was broken and they shipped a new one no questions asked.
Thanks for your real world report! I've never had any problem out of these Champion batteries either...
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I've had mine for a year and love the dual fuel capability. My only complaint is the weight and the fact that changing the oil takes a long time because of the small oil fill and drain holes. Other than that it has been a great purchase.
Thanks for sharing the info, really nice of you, what is the run time with propane? 👍
Very nice. I had one of these but just got the new 4500-watt dual fuel unit.
Thank you for review. We learned lots from you 2. We just bought one and I re visited this video . I can't wait for next trip.
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Another great video! Thank you so much! When boondocking and not needing air conditioner what's the suggestion?
I wish Champion would make a remote dual fuel model. This would cover all the features I want in a portable generator.
Reason it cant be done is you need to manually close the propane valve to turn it off.
@@Edwardsjourney I'm sure that's completely tied to the lawyers. They could easily build an "off" into the remote, but with propane, it's a little different than with gas. I'm pretty happy with my Champion, though
Wouldn't you like a fuel gauge too?
Add an hour meter to it as well. I had to add one to keep track of maintenance.
I have the 3500 Watt version of this genie. Currently in the 2nd season with it and it's working very well. Two things that I found very important while using it. One, make sure "nothing is plugged into the genie while starting it". 2nd, before turning "off ....unplug all electrical cords". I mistakenly started the genie while attached to the trailer ...a "newbie mistake" and I had an issue with performance. A call to "customer service" guided me thru a "re-set" and everything returned to normal. Finally, although we have very cold winters in Montana and the genie is stored in a "heated garage" during the winter the battery went dead. My bad...I should have removed it and put it on a "battery maintaince charger". I've not recharged the battery with a charger but noted that running the genie over a series of "off/on" uses totaling 11 plus hours has returned the battery to full charge. This unit is a "very good" product in my view and I've recommended it to a lot of people. One more point..yes..it's heavy. Therefore, when "boondocking" I leave the genie in the bed of my truck with the exhaust pointed in a safe direction. It's also "cabled securely" to keep it from "walking away". A recent camping trip with multiple days of rain and snow with the genie tucked under the bed cover kept it nice and dry and we....the campers comfortably esconced inside our little traveling home.
We’ve owned this model for nearly a year. We just got back from another trip where this powered us for 6 days. Absolutely no issues with it. I have yet to find a magnetic dipstick for this model.
Amazon has a mag dipstick. Just be sure you use the manufacturer's model number in the search engine. It cost me about 22 or 23 bucks.
I’ve used a half dozen Champion generators during natural disasters in different sizes, here in Canada and have never had a problem with them. Been every bit as happy with them as my Honda. I still own 3 of them.
Thanks for a great review of this product. Best I have seen. Just what I needed.
Bought the same unit recently and did a Colorado 2 week vacation. Powers the AC and all light and a hairdryer, but not the AC and the microwave with lights at the same time. powers the water heater and AC and lights easily. Love it. It is heavy, but well made. So easy to start and the switch to other fuel is so easy. Seems quieter on LP. easily does the AC overnight on LP on the power-saving setting. the cover is very nice and worth buying if you carry in the open truck bed. I wish they made weather proof covers for the 110 outlets on the front. I was surprised they don't offer remote, but the logic of the gas shut-down to turn it off on LP wouldn't work because you'd still have to go out and turn off the LP valve--a safety issue I think as well. Use LP if you're using it all night to sleep with AC. So far, it's quieter than everything else around me.
Being from S.E. Tennessee I understand the cicadas! Thank you for your great info, reviews and since of humor!!!
Arizona too.
Bought this unit a year ago. Charged battery, Broke engine in on propane, It sat a year, battery was just turned off. This June, the battery was still charged and the Champion generator started right up! Can't complain one bit so far.
Thanks for the video/review, and humor . I am buying a Champion Generator in a few days and your info was useful. I have a whole house Generac that runs on NG and like the cleaner LPG for the portable. Later from Texas.
WOW! I thought you were being facetious about the cicadas! I had no idea they were that loud. We don't get them around here, so I had no clue.
We have a small Honda whisper quiet generator that we bought years ago just as household emergency equipment, and we used to also take it out on a boat we used to have. The starting sequence on that, I had to use a 'naughty word' acronym to remember: FUel, Choke, Key! I'm sure you can spot the word--to start--F** the generator! LOL
I can vouch for the great customer service. I have the dual fuel open frame gen as my emergency power for my house. I have only used it on propane. When I have questions they get back to me right away. When a critter chewed into a hose, they replaced in free, with rush delivery. Hondas are great but this was one third the cost and Honda did not have a duel fuel option without a modification.
Thanks for the things you guys do for us. Pretty good review...
I really enjoy your informative content. Thanks.
I have Champiion's 3500W generator, looks just like these, it is gasoline, and REMOTE START! I have around 115 running hours on it now and it is great! The remote start is the game changer, no longer do I have to go outside in the cold,wet,dark,early,late to start or stop the generator, just press the button on the remote! Champions are great, I had one of their open frame construction ones before this and it worked fine too..
We have the remote start gas only version too and really love it. We mainly bought this unit for review purposes since we've been asked about it so frequently.
Would love to see a review on the Westinghouse dual fuel and do a comparison
Oh yea Sean, as a side note, while the a/c is running I was able to run the fridge and microwave and all of the lights at the same time. On gasoline. Haven't tried it on lpg yet.
Chief what size AC?
Great info from folks that live in Southwest Georgia where there are plenty of "Katydids" or cicadas!
WE use the champion Hybrid generator, that has work well for us
Excellent review, any idea of the cost of running on propane versus gas?
We have the remote start one gas only. Ran our 15K BTU AC for a bout 25 hours so for without a hiccup. We are impressed so far.
cyclist01222 15k AC and fridge ? Maybe TV ?
Good review thanks! I have the same model and the electric start suddenly quit working. Battery is charged and it will run if pull-started (using gasoline). Have you experienced this? If so resolution? I have a support call into Champion but wondering if someone has had this happen before. Thanks
Great review, We have this model and it runs our 30 Amp trailer quite nicely. I have never used Gasoline as I love the reliability of a non-gummed Carb. Cheers
I have a 9000 watt Champion, it will run a city but way too noisy. Also have a Harbor Freight Predator 3500 watt love it really quite. Mind you we are not full time boon-dockers, and I have pretty good array of solar panels. So we don’t have to use all that much. You should b put the decibel reader on when you start up See-More. Love the channel.
How do you keep one of these from growing legs and walking off? That would be my major concern. Great video.
Thanks for your in-depth review
Hey, that filling / measuring cup is cool! Oh, I bought this generator already, but I don't have enough experience with ity yet to say how much I like it, but I can say something else:The customer support at Champion Power is real good. there is a long story, but I'll skip it and say how happy I am with Champion. Oh, one more thing is that the battery requires a trickle charger if you want to have dependable operation with infrequent use. 'Gotta go, I am getting a little itching.
Any idea how long a full 20lb propane tank would power the RV AC?
Awesome video thanks I like champion gens got 2000 5year on it works awesome 👏🇨🇦🇨🇦🛠🛠
I have the 3100/2800 Dual Fuel model, great little machine.
Are there any add-ons that effectively boost cell service when you're traveling?
Great video and we are seriously considering it for our AS. Do you know if with the proper hose it cam be attached to the AS propane port. The Genconnex/Honda has that option. Thanks!
Any decibel testing from inside the camper? Also, we had a seriously noisey generator and compressor going on a construction site back in the day. We used to prop a piece of 2" thick foam board insulation between us and the machinery just so we didn't have to yell over the noise. It worked pretty good. I'm wondering if it would make this generator quieter also. What can you typically run off this generator at once? Fridge? AC? TV?
We have this generator and used it on 2 10,000 mile trips over the past 2 summers. Last year during the hurricane a tree fell on it and crushed it pretty good. She kept running for 3 days even being quite deformed from the tree. I just kept putting gas in it.... I know hot refueling is not good and running non stop is not good either. However, it was crushed and would need replaced. We have since replaced it with the exact same one. I still have the crushed one, someday I'll take it apart and see if it can be fixed. If so, we're tethering them for the 50 amp. The first one we bought came with a plugin to keep the battery topped up, not sure why they would have removed that on the newer model....
Nice presentation I am trying to get one for family in hurricane country (Barbados) however here in True North a power failure in -25 C would be hell my question is can it supply power to my furnace and what connection would be needed. Thanks for sharing.
I noticed your bike rack. Have you done a video on it. What make and model is it
I see that the propane regulator looks big. Does that mean that you can or cannot use the quick connect connection on side of RV from the RV tanks with just a line straight to RV tanks to the generator?
What is your favorite generator in this space? We are needing to purchase one and like the versatility of the dual fuel, and being able to hook multiple together. So those boxes are checked. The thing it is missing is a 50 amp for us (hoping that size is available) and also a remote start. We recently saw an Energizer generator eZV7500 7500/6500 we would love to see you review but I believe it may be simply too heavy for us to handle at around 200 lbs. But it has quite a few perks and we would have an all in one. Would love some thoughts!
Should you have battery button on to charge while generator is running? My initial start up would not start with switch. Had to manual start.
I've had the slightly lower power dual fuel for 2 years and always run it on propane. It starts the A/C in 100 degree weather with no problems. I use propane because it's just safer than gasoline to transport and use, and it burns much cleaner. The only problem I've had is that the battery does not hold a sufficient charge to start the generator (this year). But one pull usually gets it started. When it is running my power meter inside the trailer indicates 120-121 volts and 60Hz, just as it should be.
I saw a lot of good reviews on champion so I bought one. Brand new out of the box, put gas and oil. It wouldn't start. Took it back and got a dewalt. No problems with the dewalt.
The Beauty of propane is that burns cleaner. So clean that the oil will be clear when it is time to change the oil. The in June should last longer by using propane. The soot caused by burning gasoline is abrasive. Do not think of because the oil is not black that you don’t have to change it. There is always “blow by” in A internal combustion engine. Therefore the oil eventually gets diluted by the fuel. Using Archoil friction modifier is excellent to use in the engine. Great product.
We've got the same generator, in gasoline only with the remote start. 2 thumbs up on it! No desire at all for the propano capability... gasoline is MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to acquire while traveling... and takes up the same space. But... different strokes for different folks!