That was not pilot error. That was a manufacturer error. They use a plastic gear 4 dollar servo on the elevator and a metal gear servo on the rudder and nose gear. The first thing I do if I purchase an EFlite Bind and Crash is replace every servo with good metal gear servos I have been using for years without a failure. I hope Eflite stand behind the product and replaces it. Cause it flew itself directly down to the crash site. Nice flying site.
I agree . Saving a few dollars for them ends up costing big dollars for us . Stop trying to increase margins by cheaping out on components HH , These plastic gear servos are garbage . I would gladly pay a few bucks more to have all metal an overpowered servos
WISH MY DRACO LANDING (CRASH) HAD BEEN VIDEOED,, elevator (PLASTIC) horn broke,, some repairs to the landing gear and it will fly again,, but I did not get a reply from them, rcing since 1965, lots of crashes byPIC, but not at the dracos price point
I'm sorry, it hurt my heart. I have one, I haven't had my maiden flight yet, but now that I've seen that the servo can have problems, I intend to replace all of them with a good quality metal one.
Once on my carbon cub 52” the rudder servo control arm broke resulting in a full right rudder induced stall spin from about fifty feet. But zero throttle and grass field allowed for repair and several successful flights since and new control arm has her flying again.
Servo glitched for sure. I have had servo problems with a couple of foam planes and as I like the bigger models (6 cell) I now fit quality servo's before the first flight.
I had a simular problem with my Piper Cherokee, except the problem was with the aileron. Upon inspection it wasn't a servo problem. The reciever was defective. I've had many similar experiences with Spektrum electonics. Fortunately, most of the time these problems have presented themselves during the pre-flight inspection.
My super timber did the same thing after trimming it up put in safe mode to test hands free and it just fell out of sky 😢 I was pissed first time that’s ever happened
I have had an issue like this before. And now, every time I adjust anything, I always rebind. Not sure where I heard to do that but I have always done it after a crash like yours. And u bet you that they found nothing wrong is because they bound it with a different radio!! Mechanical trim and digital trim is different. And diffstill when a gyro is in the mix
That was deff a defective servo its like all of sudden it hit a wall and down, that servo went beyond its settings and just down..the plane prob cost HH $50 to $60 tops. I had issues with some planes and I refused to pay to ship back and to have it replaced or repaired and they argued with me but I won in the end. Btw gave you a like and sub and thanks for sharing👍👍👍👍👍
I am so glad to see another Cherokee 1.3m video! There aren't many out there and I love flying my Cherokee too. I've crashed it and broken the wing off hitting a tree in some windy conditions. I lost a prop and hit a foul pole at another field. This plane has done me well and still flies great. I've got a few Cherokee videos out there on my channel. I hope to see more of your Cherokee!
And I’ve noticed on the last 3 eflite planes I’ve bought where they have long control rods and tubes for the tail that the rods won’t move freely in the carbon tube I had to use a drill on the control rods on my valiant just to get it out of the tube an work it to where it would move freely
I almost bought this since they revamped it, but the Xmas in July sale knocked $50 off the Corsair so I bought it instead since my new field has a rough sandy/grass root runway. If I was still at the old club with a runway I 100% would have got the A-10, it was $100 off but I don't think our runway will work for it, but they're all on my wishlist
Over the years I moved away from spending hundreds of dollars on over priced Styrofoam with pre-installed garbage electronics and servos and coming up with my own designs and using foam board and other materials to build them. I've been studying aircraft design and learning as much as I can about all aspects of putting together a good/excellent flying model and it's been beyond rewarding.
Same happened to mine.I had 3 different crashes, first 2 not to severe and plane was repaired plus new servos. I feel that junk servos and the RX was also to blame. Finally junked the plane.
Floating on landing, you took off right to left and then landed left to right. Would also note that they are much easier to get on the ground if you don't do your final leg at 200' or whatever above the ground.
I think something went wrong with that crash for sure cause you hardly had anytime to recover from that unless you had safe on a switch sounds like a servo came lose 😢
That’s BS Horizon didn’t want to take responsibility for this. Anyone who knows anything about rc airplanes, seeing this video knows that wasn’t pilot error. It couldn’t be more clear. Sorry to hear about that.
Wow I have over 200 flights on my Cherokee and not even had a hard landing with it . I love this plane . I have the old version that’s really old and another one still in the box . But the newest one flies great . I even fly mine with a 4s 4000 battery
ARFs and RTFs are a crap shoot. The manufacturers of these planes always seem to instal the cheapest servos they can source. I started in this hobby flying KRAFT and than switched to JR. JR electronics were superior to KRAFT but you still had problems. With the advent of 2.4kz I left 72mhz and purchased SPEKTRUM.
I started in 1976. Owned about every brand back in the 72 mhz era. The servos back then were built much better than today in some regards. Your control link is only as good as your servos in the plane. I'm working on a Freewing F9F and out of the box and one elevator servo full down on fire up and dead. Plastic junk. They charge 10 bucks but they are not worth 1 dollar!
@@BigTRC100 no i hate to c a rc=er crash cause i hate it when i crash and wouldnt wish that pain on others. look at the sky those clouds dont look like they did when i was a kid
HH customer service used to be great but since they bought Tower Hobbies which was their main competitor CS has become not so great and Tower’s CS horrible. It’s sad but I won’t buy from either anymore.
@@Mikeylikesit1968 Like many of us, I'm sure he has multiple planes on the same transmitter. Logic suggests if the radio was bad he would have crashed other models as well. Mr. T, did you wipe out the original profile on the radio or bind up the new plane on the model you originally created?
No, I flew it under the same programming as the original and it flies great. Mikey is correct though, planes don’t just fly into the ground but when the servo fails on the thing that keeps them in the air it’s likely they will crash.
That was not pilot error. That was a manufacturer error. They use a plastic gear 4 dollar servo on the elevator and a metal gear servo on the rudder and nose gear. The first thing I do if I purchase an EFlite Bind and Crash is replace every servo with good metal gear servos I have been using for years without a failure. I hope Eflite stand behind the product and replaces it. Cause it flew itself directly down to the crash site. Nice flying site.
It was replaced but not for free.
@@BigTRC100 What a shame. Happy flying.
I agree . Saving a few dollars for them ends up costing big dollars for us . Stop trying to increase margins by cheaping out on components HH , These plastic gear servos are garbage . I would gladly pay a few bucks more to have all metal an overpowered servos
Pilot truth!
WISH MY DRACO LANDING (CRASH) HAD BEEN VIDEOED,, elevator (PLASTIC) horn broke,, some repairs to the landing gear and it will fly again,, but I did not get a reply from them, rcing since 1965, lots of crashes byPIC, but not at the dracos price point
I'm sorry, it hurt my heart. I have one, I haven't had my maiden flight yet, but now that I've seen that the servo can have problems, I intend to replace all of them with a good quality metal one.
Sorry! Sorry that happened. I just got a Cherokee, but haven’t maidened it yet.
Once on my carbon cub 52” the rudder servo control arm broke resulting in a full right rudder induced stall spin from about fifty feet.
But zero throttle and grass field allowed for repair and several successful flights since and new control arm has her flying again.
Talk about straight into the ground. That was an electronic malfunction for sure. I hope you get a new one.
I got a new one but it wasn’t free.
Servo glitched for sure. I have had servo problems with a couple of foam planes and as I like the bigger models (6 cell) I now fit quality servo's before the first flight.
I had a simular problem with my Piper Cherokee, except the problem was with the aileron. Upon inspection it wasn't a servo problem. The reciever was defective. I've had many similar experiences with Spektrum electonics. Fortunately, most of the time these problems have presented themselves during the pre-flight inspection.
Someone at my club had one of these that did the same thing.
So what was the exact Problem? Is it a mistake just at this Type of airplaine?
The elevator servo failed
My super timber did the same thing after trimming it up put in safe mode to test hands free and it just fell out of sky 😢 I was pissed first time that’s ever happened
it´is sad!
Ouch! Lost my Cherokee to a faulty battery adaptor, miss mine so so much!
I have had an issue like this before. And now, every time I adjust anything, I always rebind. Not sure where I heard to do that but I have always done it after a crash like yours.
And u bet you that they found nothing wrong is because they bound it with a different radio!!
Mechanical trim and digital trim is different. And diffstill when a gyro is in the mix
That was deff a defective servo its like all of sudden it hit a wall and down, that servo went beyond its settings and just down..the plane prob cost HH $50 to $60 tops. I had issues with some planes and I refused to pay to ship back and to have it replaced or repaired and they argued with me but I won in the end. Btw gave you a like and sub and thanks for sharing👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks man. Yeah HH is definitely getting harder to deal with.
I am so glad to see another Cherokee 1.3m video! There aren't many out there and I love flying my Cherokee too. I've crashed it and broken the wing off hitting a tree in some windy conditions. I lost a prop and hit a foul pole at another field. This plane has done me well and still flies great. I've got a few Cherokee videos out there on my channel. I hope to see more of your Cherokee!
It is a very decent scale flying plane. Thanks for watching.
Paying attention to the details...I guess so.
Sorry for your loss friend 😢
Great video and breakdown though 👍🏼
Thanks Buddy!!
And I’ve noticed on the last 3 eflite planes I’ve bought where they have long control rods and tubes for the tail that the rods won’t move freely in the carbon tube I had to use a drill on the control rods on my valiant just to get it out of the tube an work it to where it would move freely
I almost bought this since they revamped it, but the Xmas in July sale knocked $50 off the Corsair so I bought it instead since my new field has a rough sandy/grass root runway. If I was still at the old club with a runway I 100% would have got the A-10, it was $100 off but I don't think our runway will work for it, but they're all on my wishlist
It’s a good flying plane.
Over the years I moved away from spending hundreds of dollars on over priced Styrofoam with pre-installed garbage electronics and servos and coming up with my own designs and using foam board and other materials to build them. I've been studying aircraft design and learning as much as I can about all aspects of putting together a good/excellent flying model and it's been beyond rewarding.
Very good pilot!
sorry ..that was a solid hit at full blast !
so it was a servo or receiver problem ?
To me it was definitely the servo.
Iv been getting alot of bad servos from them. Like 3 different planes and had to replace one on each
Yep. I’m hearing that a lot.
Same happened to mine.I had 3 different crashes, first 2 not to severe and plane was repaired plus new servos. I feel that junk servos and the RX was also to blame. Finally junked the plane.
That’s a shame.
Floating on landing, you took off right to left and then landed left to right. Would also note that they are much easier to get on the ground if you don't do your final leg at 200' or whatever above the ground.
Thanks
I think something went wrong with that crash for sure cause you hardly had anytime to recover from that unless you had safe on a switch sounds like a servo came lose 😢
If you watch after the crash you can see the elevator servo twitching back and forth from full up to full down.
That’s BS Horizon didn’t want to take responsibility for this. Anyone who knows anything about rc airplanes, seeing this video knows that wasn’t pilot error. It couldn’t be more clear. Sorry to hear about that.
I can’t be too mad at them. I do feel like they should have replaced the plane for nothing but it only cost me 50 bucks for the replacement.
@@BigTRC100 it’s just the principle of a faulty product that gets me
Wow I have over 200 flights on my Cherokee and not even had a hard landing with it . I love this plane . I have the old version that’s really old and another one still in the box . But the newest one flies great . I even fly mine with a 4s 4000 battery
The one I have now flies great.
ARFs and RTFs are a crap shoot. The manufacturers of these planes always seem to instal the cheapest servos they can source. I started in this hobby flying KRAFT and than switched to JR. JR electronics were superior to KRAFT but you still had problems. With the advent of 2.4kz I left 72mhz and purchased SPEKTRUM.
I agree.
I started in 1976. Owned about every brand back in the 72 mhz era. The servos back then were built much better than today in some regards. Your control link is only as good as your servos in the plane. I'm working on a Freewing F9F and out of the box and one elevator servo full down on fire up and dead. Plastic junk. They charge 10 bucks but they are not worth 1 dollar!
13:45 GEO-ENGINEERING AT ITS FINEST
So I’m assuming you’re saying I crashed it on purpose? lol?
@@BigTRC100 no i hate to c a rc=er crash cause i hate it when i crash and wouldnt wish that pain on others. look at the sky those clouds dont look like they did when i was a kid
lol, ok thanks I misunderstood.
Yeah it does hurt. Hurts worse when it’s not your vault.
Send video to horizon. They should replace it
“Stabilater” hell ya
It’s a real word lol.
Probably using a Spekjunk transmitter
Nah, Spektrum works just fine
@@BigTRC100 😆 🤣 😂
HH customer service used to be great but since they bought Tower Hobbies which was their main competitor CS has become not so great and Tower’s CS horrible. It’s sad but I won’t buy from either anymore.
Yeah I hate the fact that you can’t call anymore.
Shame to see .
Servo probably broke in crash. Ditch your Spekjunk transmitter
Most definitely wasn’t the radio.
@@BigTRC100 planes just don't dive into the ground
@@Mikeylikesit1968 Like many of us, I'm sure he has multiple planes on the same transmitter. Logic suggests if the radio was bad he would have crashed other models as well. Mr. T, did you wipe out the original profile on the radio or bind up the new plane on the model you originally created?
No, I flew it under the same programming as the original and it flies great.
Mikey is correct though, planes don’t just fly into the ground but when the servo fails on the thing that keeps them in the air it’s likely they will crash.
Fms is better