Survivor: All-Stars - Season Retrospective (20 Years Later)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- In this video, around the 20th anniversary of Survivor: All-Stars, I decided to rewatch the season and talk about my detailed thoughts about the season.
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:55 Casting
8:29 Episode 1 (Opening Scene)
13:04 Episode 1 (Tribe Breakdowns)
26:01 Episode 1 (Post-Immunity Challenge)
31:28 Episode 2
39:07 Episode 3
49:32 Episode 4
56:45 Episode 5
1:05:16 Episode 6
1:16:58 Episode 7
1:26:17 Episode 8
1:36:48 Episode 9 (Tribe Swap)
1:49:24 Episode 9 (Post-Immunity Challenge)
2:04:12 Episode 10
2:21:56 Episode 11
2:33:52 Episode 12
2:45:46 Episode 13
2:51:27 Episode 14
2:59:18 Episode 15 (Final 4)
3:06:07 Episode 15 (Final 3)
3:12:03 Episode 15 (Final 2)
3:30:07 Finalist Breakdowns
3:34:46 Reunion
3:38:43 America's Tribal Council
3:43:50 Outro
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“Shii Ann’s trying to make an alliance with a bush” is one of the greatest lines ever.
For what its worth Rupert said post game he "probably" votes Jenna in a Final 2 with Rob since she was a single mother, and since she was his closest ally all game, even though she betrayed him. And said he definitely votes her in a Final 2 with Amber. Reunion show polls are always horseshit, most times the contestants even admit to lying about them right after they happen, LOL! They are mostly to apease Probst and keep him from having a potty tantrum.
Yeah, Joe from HHH said he would have voted for Chrissy years later, but he said he would have voted for Ryan immediately after the season.
Yes, I still agree with his assumption that this is a unique season where everyone in the top 3 had somewhat of a shot at winning against one other person. But I think it’s iffy with Rob v Jenna, I think his claims that Rob clearly wins is an overstatement.
@@gregatkins2156 Yep. This is how I look at it.
Jenna 99% likely wins against Amber.
Amber wins against Rob, as she already did.
Rob vs Jenna is probably a Jenna win. She only needs 1 of Kathy or Rupert. She probably gets Kathy, as I honestly don't think Kathy votes Rob over a single person but Amber (who she was even more bitter at than Rob and disliked), and Rupert is 50/ 50 at best, and again he would need both. Mind you Amber ironically is the safer win for Jenna than Rob.
“Jeff’s love affair with Boston Rob” made me LOL 😭😭😭😂🤣
Thank you so much for marking sections for the video! There's so many podcasts that I lose my place in and have such a hard time finding it again
Love seeing your retrospective on old school survivor
Wow, it's been 20 years since this Season aired?! Man, time flies since I remember watching this Season with my mom when I was 8.
We’re get to the Big Brother & The Amazing Race All Stars Retrospective Season video in the future folks.
Overall amazing and comprehensive review I love the addition of post survivor and production tidbits
If you could get a hold of the DVD commentary of this season really shows a lot more insight of some of these players thoughts during this season. Genuine recommend for all fans
I’ve been waiting for this specific retrospective
Love these retrospectives
Super hyped for bb5 and survivor: Vanuatu
I’m just disappointed it’s gonna be awhile before more international retrospectives
Literally all of your thoughts on survivor all stars perfectly describe my thoughts on bb24. While the Taylor hale arc was somewhat compelling, the overwhelmingly miserable tone surrounding the season makes that story not as enjoyable as what it could’ve been, as bb24 is the epitome of a season where no one was having fun
BB22 exists, that’s much more of a "no one has fun" season than BB24.
The Sue moment is enough for me to be reluctant to show this season to a semi-new viewer
But i guess you have since it the first all-star and consider it importance in Survivor US History
I would fast forward through those segments of these episodes
Will you eventuality do a player ranking for this cast?
love the content!
Yeah, around the 20 year anniversary of the season’s finale
Maaaaan I can’t wait to see this player ranking lol
You usually post these the day that Survivor airs. You got my hopes up thinking that Survivor 46 was on tonight.
Real survivor ended already
Survivor 45 ended, is that what you mean?
@@ClubPuguin no survivor altogether has already ended to me
I love your analysis of the Jury speeches they're definitely my favorite part of the season. Rob and amber really did suck at answering the questions, especially amber imo like wdym luck is how you played the game????
Worth noting that Rob actually fell in the water first when he slammed Colby in the attack zone challenge but Jeff failed to call it. Jeff went on to admit he missed it in the moment.
I like how you refer to any heterosexual comment as creepy
Most of the time on Survivor it is. I found Amazon nearly unwatchable for that exact reason.
I remember being sooo high on this season when I first got into Survivor back in 2008 and remember thinking this was top tier cause of everything with Rob and Amber and while I wouldn't put this as an bottom tier season, it's definitely not an rewatchable season cause of it again not being an fun season cause of the dark moments despite how iconic some of them are
I think producers designed Chapera to be the disaster tribe so they could protect the legends on the other 2. On paper Chapera looked like the weakest with Boston Rob being the only strong member and at the time he wasn’t considered fantastic. But Rob M, Amber, Alicia, Sue and Tom were expendable early boots and they were hoping Chapera would lose each time. Mogo Mogo was the most stacked with Shii Ann being the only expendable member so they wanted Mogo Mogo to never have to go to tribal. Then Saboga to a lesser extent with Jenna L as the only expendable. Unfortunately their plan did not work.
By the way, when you combine multiple words into one, it’s called a portmanteau.
“Chabogo Mogo” is a portmanteau of Chapera, Saboga, and Mogo Mogo
Chaboga mogo chaboga mogo
This season kinda has that game changers type of vibe
3:34:25 , idk why but I just really like this moment for some reason ?
Like, it always felt like Amber got a pretty bad rep (especially at the time of the season) even she always seemed like a very pleasant person, I ve always kinda felt bad for her too lol
My Rankings:
18. Su
17. Jenna M.
16. Tina
15. Rudy
14. Rob C.
13. Rich
12. Tom
11. Jerry
10. Jenna L.
9. Ethan
8. Alicia
7. Rupert
6. Colby
5. Lexx
4. Kathy
3. Shi Ann
2. Amber
1. Rob M.
Tom is so low on this list!
Is this based on gameplay or entertainment?
My player ranking would be
18 Rob C
17 Sue Hawk
16 Tina
15 Richard
14 Jenna M
13 Colby
12 Rudy
11 Alicia
10 Tom
9 Ethan
8 Jerri
7 Lex
6 Kathy
5 Shi ann
4 Rupert
3 Jenna L
2 Amber
1 Rob
I love how TMR’s opinions on survivor all stars are exactly the same as my opinions on big brother 24 (and conversely, most people’s and TMR’s opinions on big brother 24 are exactly the same as my opinions on survivor all stars)
BB24 really is the epitome of a season where no one’s having fun, at least 100 times more so than survivor all stars
I 100% second this. BB24 is an all time worst season imo, due to how not fun the path to the good outcome is
@@WillEwing2478 stop replying to yourself
Boston Who?
For what it’s worth, I actually found amber really entertaining on WAW.
I was super dissapointed in her on WAW. I had been a big defender of her, probably partly as I never bought the "Rob was robbed" narrative his annoying fan groupies insisted on. But she seemed clueless, out of touch with the modern game, and constantly downplaying herself, and like she showed up to do nothing but wash Rob's underwear on the Edge. The only good thing she did was campaign to Rob to vote Tony and not Natalie, as he was much more deserving, and Rob was on the fence apparently without Amber strongly vouching for Tony and against Natalie.
I never really found her that entertaining the only reason she won was because the jury was pissed at Boston rob
@@58twright Not an Amber fan but she has a shot vs a lot of people, in fact probably moreso than Rob does.
vs Tom: Tom would have Kathy, Lex, Alicia locked. Amber would have Rupert, Jenna, Rob locked. Shi Ann is the swing. Rob btw would lose to Tom as Shi Ann, Kathy, Lex, Alicia would all vote Tom.
vs Jenna: Rupert, Kathy, Lex would all be locked for Jenna. Rob, Shi Ann, and probably Alicia all vote Amber. Tom is the swing who decides who wins, and if Amber does as well answering Tom as she did vs Rob, she could get his vote to win. Rob btw loses to Jenna as Lex, Alicia, Tom, Kathy all vote Jenna for sure, and probably Rupert too.
vs Rupert: OK both Rob and Amber lose badly, both lose 6-1 in fact, with their only vote coming from each other. Maybe Amber gets Shi Ann to lose 5-2.
vs Alicia: Amber beats Alicia 4-3 with the votes of Rupert, Jenna, Rob, and Shi Ann who hated Alicia. Come to think of it Rob probably wins 4-3 with the same votes, Alicia is the only one Rob beats.
So Amber has a good shot vs any of the Final 6 except Rupert. Rob meanwhile probably only beats Alicia.
I just wanted to say I am 100% team Lex and Kathy on this season! Lex and Kathy are both better off with their many amazing friends and not wasting friendships with thrash like Boston Rob in real life. Just like Grant on RI is living his best life, and much happier without a thrash, fake friend like Boston Rob in his life.
Lexs and grants bitterness towards rob is so incredibly frustrating to watch imo. When I heard their bitterness, I wanted to bust through my tv and yell “shut the f*ck up!” at them. Their reasons for being bitter at rob is almost entirely bullshit imo
@@WilsonReviews Lex were close to Boston Rob and helped him when he was in his worst moment (after a breakup), Lex expected Rob to follow their pre-gaming gameplan, where him, Rob and Kathy would stick together on the merge and pick up Big Tom who were in the alliance as well. When he voted out Ethan, it wasn't a betrayal, Ethan was never part of Lex's pre-gaming alliance, plus, Lex didn't wanted to keep Amber, Kathy actually convinced him to vote out Jerri because she thought Boston Rob would honor their deal.
@@WilsonReviews Grant isn't bitter at Rob, he just doesn't want anything to do with him. And he literally has no reason he should have anything to do with Rob. They weren't even friends in the game, they didn't even know each other before the game, and Rob betrayed him for no reason at all. I doubt you could come up with a single reason Grant should be talking to Rob, LOL!
Lex is a bit different as they actually had a real friendship once, which Grant and Rob never had. However Lex has tons of friends from the Survivor community, he officiated many weddings. He has no need for an obnoxious douchebag like Rob in his life.
@@frankiedelgadoes Exactly. Not wanting to be friends with someone is not the same as being bitter. Grant was never bitter at Rob, he should not be obligated to be friends with him for no reason at all. He even voted Rob to win, and Rob fans are still whining somehow.
Lex was bitter bigtime, but had good reason to be of course.
@@queenzoroark And people keep mentioning Lex and Ethan being the same thing but it wasn't as Lex even told Ethan before the game he refused to work with him since he was a past winner. In fact the entire All Stars cast had an anti winner pact. Wilsonboys seems like a blind OTT crazed Rob fanboy, and I doubt he even watched All Stars to know things like the anti winners pact the entire All Stars cast had, so Lex was never planning to work with Ethan, and never led him into thinking he would.
My favorite season tbh
How many survivors has Ethan dated
12 and that includes Shii-Ann’s Alliance with the bush
@@iamkonner4813 dang
All Stars is much better appreciated as the story of Rob and Amber. It’s one of the few where it’s way more compelling to watch knowing the outcome, kind of like SoPa and Samoa. I personally still really love this season. Watching Rob and Amber dominate while also really destroying the innocence of the game is so intriguing.
I liked the Rob and Amber story better than most, probably since I like both players, especialy Amber. However destroying the innocence of the game part I didn't like so much. All earlier seasons had some unwritten moral and honor code. It is the main reason Colby took Tina over Keith on Outbacks, as winning by taking Keith would be dishonorable. That was broken forever on All Stars, and it was a bit sad. It had to end sometime, but would have been nice if it were 10 seasons later or something.
Agreed, not even a big Rob fan but was super fun to watch. I loved seeing the evil side of Survivor coming out for the first time. Since we were losing the big names early regardless, that was the next best alternative.
Survivor all stars is essentially a better version of big brother 24 imo. Both seasons contain a somewhat compelling storyline that is bolstered by the outcome, but in bb24, the overwhelmingly miserable tone surrounding that season makes that storyline not as enjoyable as it could’ve been.
BB24 is really the epitome of a season where no one’s having fun, at least 100 times more so than survivor all stars
@@WilsonReviews Alyssa and Kyle were atleast having a certain kind of fun quite often. Until Kyle's eviction that is. Probably resuming the "fun" in jury house.
All stars was basically the rob & amber show
Honestly this season is way overrated. Besides the Sue/Rich situation (which is gross obviously) on a rewatch the complete hatred from the cast is so refreshing compared to the “sunshine and rainbows” the current seasons have
Wouldn't that be underrated based on what you just said? Did you mean to say that instead.
@@EdwardJarvis-be3ck ohhhh I meant overhated haha not overrated
The All stars jury is by far the most frustrated I’ve ever been with bitter jurors. Lex whines about how rob betrayed him, when he LITERALLY DID THE EXACT SAME THING to Colby, Ethan, and Jerri all in a row. And preaches nothing personal, it’s just business, and then whines about the way you play is representative of who you are as a person. Like…????? SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!
And then Alicia bashes on rob saying that you may have outwitted us, outplayed us, and outlasted us, but you have not outclassed us. Which, AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!!! Like what does that even mean????
And then big Tom talks about he was robs best and closest ally and that he was nothing but good to him, even though Big Tom LITERALLY not only threw rob’s name out to the others, but also agreed to take rob out with Rupert at f5. And then he outright says to Rob that he’s the swing vote. How is any of that being nothing but good to rob? And then tells him don’t be stupid, stupid??? Like, F*CK OFF! What a great rationale, it makes so much sense.
Hearing those people’s jury speeches was so incredibly frustrating to watch
Okay to be entirely fair to Lex, he had a pregame alliance slash friendship with Rob that Rob broke, which is technically different than what he had with Ethan and Jerri so I guess I vaguely understand him being upset while also doing virtually the same thing?
Um that's about where my defenses end lol.
The other jurors though hmm... I get that they were all pretty close friends so there was no good way to play this for Rob but... c'mon.
Lex is excusable, the rest are not.
Rob sucks at jury management. It isn't a coincidence BOTH seasons he reached the end he loses a jury vote to almost everyone since the jury hated him both times, despite mostly dominating the game both tims. He did win RI, only due to being up against the 2 biggest goats in Survivor history at FTC.
And a very bad cast which wasn't even made for him to win, RI was bad all around...
@@samanderson5774 Rob just sucks at jury management. Unlike better all around players like Kim, Tony, Earl, who can play just as dominantly, but have juries love them at the end. So I kind of get your point, but Rob does not have the ability or tact to not make a jury angry, so you have to consider that.
It isn't a coincidence BOTH seasons he reached the end he loses a jury vote to almost everyone since the jury hated him both times, despite mostly dominating the game both tims. He did win RI, only due to being up against the 2 biggest goats in Survivor history at FTC.
Sue deadass made that shit up I think
I think so too sue clearly initiated the whole incident I wonder what would have happened if hatch was there the next episode when sue quit i wonder what would have happened
Lex acts like a child. Grow a pair and move on
He has moved on with his life. He literally never talks about Rob unless he is asked about him, and even then says the bare minimum and moves on. It was Rob who bemoaned Lex for years in interviews (not really anymore but for far too long) which was frankly pretty silly, not the other way around, so it seems for the longest time it was Rob who had not moved on, although thankfully now it seems both have and almost never mention the other, just as it should be with any dead friendship. And I am not even a Lex fan, and he was my least favorite player on Africa other than maybe Brandon.
His bitterness is so frustrating to watch. The all stars jury is by far the most frustrated I’ve ever been with bitter jurors