Great video. When interacting with high Fi users, it helps me to remember that they ARE DEEPLY AND INTENSELY EMOTIONAL, but because their feeling is introverted, it might not be as easily and as evidently noticeable in conversation, but it is definitely still there. We Fe users want to see and feel the EXPRESSION of that emotional intensity. Fi users FEEL INTENSELY, but don't necessarily EXPRESS it in ways that are easily seen. But I have come to realize they are deeply emotional, deeply feeling individuals, and the mystery of it all is absolutely beautiful to me.
Thanks for this video, as an INFP with a very close INFJ friend I agree with what you said, however i think the obstacle doesn't end when you first meet, but rather once you start getting close you start realizing more conflicts arising. I saw our friendship as pretty equal as i tried to not "use" my friend as a counselor, and i was pretty open about his ideas and art. But my friend saw it as unequal as he told me he was walking on eggshells as he felt i was morally judging (taking too personally) his Ti ideas and he was trying to accommodate me. I had no idea he was accomodating so much, since he hadn't told me. It hurt my feelings as I want my friends to be able to be themselves around me, even if I'm sensitive. I tried to be more mindful of not poking at his Ti ideas and asking my friend about his feelings rather than always bringing up mine at whatever topic. There will always be a sense of otherness, but airing out the frustrations without blaming or judging can do a lot of good and create a more solid sense of harmony.
I’m an INFJ and my boyfriend is an ISFP and my best friend is an INFP. I appreciate their Fi so much and in some way, I envy them. They have a strong sense of self and never compromise on their beliefs. It’s inspiring to be around them. I also appreciate talking to them and getting their counsel when I am unsure of what to do in a complexe situation. I guess that we have similar values thought, and the relationships would not work as well otherwise…
INFJ's can be in relationships with anyone, we just hope they realise that we need some alone time once in a while, to recharge mainly, and that they are not overly clingy or overbearing. People tend to think that the type of person that would be perfect for INFJ's is an ENTP, yet both types would clash in an epic way, the only type that would be perfect for INFJ's is another INFJ and the reasons are because they both know each others limitations, need for alone time and both do not have tendencies to go out and party, whereby putting themselves in the position to cheat on their partner.
From my experience with having a relationship with an infp is that I always felt like I'm walking around egg shells, and I always had to figure her out she would barely express her emotions or reach out to me, she was unhealthy but regardless that's how my experience has been with Dominant Fi users, it's very draining to constantly have to figure them out, It's fi is focused on itself and so is Fe focused on the Fi, Fi Doms barely explain themselves, so essentially it's an exhausting cycle.
Fi is rather tricky for me to understand fully, although I think that for INFJ’s, people who have Fi are unequivocally valuable to us. The reason why is because since we get swept around by others feelings so much we tend to not think to what we want. Fi users are there to remind us to think about what we really want instead of what others want. I think there are times where I clash personally with Fi dominant users because I have a very logical approach to life in general, and I want to have everyone heard. Fi users usually see this as an attack on a specific value of theirs and they become vocal on it, and I have to criticize it further in terms for the sake of my understanding and also for the sake of other’s understanding. I think I tend to enjoy the company of high Ti users with dominant Se (ESTP’s and ISTP’s) more because they know what to value in accordance to reality but in a way that I understand, which in term helps me understand what I want
One of my best friend is an INFP and we have been friends for more than 20 years. We do clash quite a bit, but no one gives me more space or understands me like she does. I notice that she is more willing to sit and feel her emotions, which I sometimes see as sulking. In my case, I feel like ok, you felt the emotions, let's move on now. Whereas I see my emotions, sometimes don't understand them, and I try to rationalize them to see what information they are giving me. I see the difference really about Fi focused on feeling the emotions and talking about the feelings. Whereas I don't want to feel the emotions; I want to just go straight to Ti or connect it to my Ni. However, INFP are wonderful because they can sit with you and accompany you without judgement to feel the emotions, whereas I want them to go down a deeper level and take away a learning from those feelings.
To summarise what I understood from this video, if we can mutually appreciate what the other person has to offer, and learn from their perspectives, values and emotional expressions, then INFPs and INFJs can successfully be in a relationship and benefit from each other.
I can firmly confirm your ideas Renaud. Me, an INFJ, have been in an romantic relationship with an INFP for a year now and we constantly end up in 'clashes' about my non-individualistic and non-authentic behavior. She wants me to speak up about my emotions en inner feelings, but honestly I often do not have any of those as long as we both live in harmony XD. Since the first 'clash' I saw the great opportunity this relationship offered me to learn about myself. Actually, she learned me about MBTI and ever since I have been in a rollercoaster (which is really an understatement), learning about myself, her and others through your YT channel and book, Carl Jungs writings and my own observations. I want to take this opportunity to really thank you for your content, always spot-on. However, the relationship now seems to become a little bit problematic since she seems unwilling (maybe 'unable' is a better word here) to see this relationship as an opportunity to learn about herself too :( ; I think she is now really focussing on her conscious functions, thereby leaving no room available for integration of her shadow parts which I reflect. So I think a 'red flag' arises when one person in the INFJ-INFP relationship is unwilling/unable to learn about her shadow functions, obviously XD. Unfortunately, this asks for a great deal of self-reflective capacities, knowledge, self-consciousness and suffering actually, which typically come in play in late adolescence I think. Behaviorally or cognitively this can be seen when problems regarding INFJ's authenticity or individuality (broadly-speaking) arise, as far as I know. Which, ofcourse, is in a certain sense kind of contradictory and therefore reflective of the INFP's unwillingness to open up his or herself to individuation, because, I dont know why actually, INFJ's are maybe THE most authentic people when they have matured to a certain extent (i.e. for me in particular, acquiring self-knowledge on how Fe can determine the life of an INFJ as reflected by non-decisiveness, non-assertivity and conformity). So when an INFP seems not to be able to RESPECT the INFJ's qualities and person and vice versa, and wants a matured INFJ to really change, than this relationship can become problematic, obviously. My mother is also an INFP and I do not experience any of this with her because we both seem willing to learn from each other. But I (spiritually) believe my girlfriend will also be able to do so really soon :). I love her so much that I dont care how many times we again need to go through these 'clashes' at this point, as long as she can proof to me to be able to respect me and also learn from me from now on. I can really recommend you reading 'The Power of Now' by Eckhart Tolle Renaud. It really teaches you how to be conscious (of 'yourself'); it teaches how to use Se. Then, reading about Carl Jung's ideas actually does not matter anymore XD, but rather becomes a joyful play.
Si/Te are where the biggest sources of misunderstanding lie. These functions seem to leave people to take certain premices for granted. Te for mutual goals and assessments . Si for the existence of a strong sence of personal preference, based on attachment to previous experiences, where there quite often are none, and thereby no true answer to certain questions they expect me to weigh in on or open up about.
Hey, if you don't mind, can you help me differentiate between Si and Ni? I have concluded that my dominant function is an introverted perceiving function ( Si or Ni). But I can't decide which one is it. My primary mode of functioning is like this "I get interested (obsessed) with something and then when I try to do anything else unrelated to the topic of interest I start getting insights about connections with the current topic with my topic of interest. As a result I can't learn about the current topic optimally as I am constantly get directed by these insights". Does it sound like Si or Ni?
I never was with anyone who was like me, whatever it is that I am. I took on their lives and was exposed to many things I would not have experienced. I thought they inspired new revelations and they did, but it turns out those people didn’t care about those ideas as much as they pretended to. I surrendered to get peace. Over time, I’m more strongly what I am because I adopted and took on guiding principals that were my only solace in terribly lonely relationships. Wherever I end up, I will try and look for deeper meaning, to have friendships that challenge each other to our own best highest. Even my friendships with animals and birds is such that I learn their ways and don’t try to push them to adapt to me. Because they feel valued we have very emotion filled friendships. I cry with pure relief when two brother birds return after the worst part of winter is over. I hope whatever answers you’re looking for become clear this year, and that it be your best year ever.
I’m a bit late to this party, but I was thinking that the success of such a relationship might depend very much on the secondary functions of each. Ni and Fi in the raw can be like an irresistible force running into an immovable object. It doesn’t have to be like that if both people have mature, well developed secondaries. Ne is a wonderfully playful function and Fe can be the same in the hands of a flexible Ni primary. I’ve not been in such a relationship myself but I can’t help feeling this is where a truly magic relationship could be found - one that would be like a midwife to a shared Fi/Ni encounter, a shared journey of individuation. It would be different with an ISFP, and that would provide very different challenges for an INFJ.
This is very helpful insight, thank you! It helps me clarify what I'm going through. As a high Fe user (not sure if I'm INFJ, though) I'm painfully aware of how attracted I am to Fis, but also 'hate' them for making me feel envious and inferior. But it's only because I undervalue Fe and glorify Fi, as well as because I'm in the process of integrating my shadow. In the past I wasn't aware of this and I would just abandon Fis after a while, rather passive-aggressively, because I could no longer stand to be in this 'imbalanced' relationship, had no awareness of what was going on, and had no guts to tell them what was going on. Since I've been in therapy which has resulted in more and more individuation, shadow integration, I've been able to stick it out with Fis, so to speak. And have only become richer for it, and achieved deeper connections. It's still a challenge, though. But your explanation really helps with this current phase. I can't wait for further individuation. I know it's going to bring me more and more gifts.
I still don’t know for sure, but my ex-husband may be an INFP, and we did get along great for many years, but the disconnect came in what (I gather) was this Fe/Fi clash. He is very much a person who does what he feels and doesn't care about what others feel. Or rather, he doesn't read the room very well. I can understand the questioner feeling like they do, but I agree we have to decide what obstacles, if you will, we are willing to try to overcome or at least mitigate as best we can, in order to create a harmonious relationship. Ultimately, I do believe there are many pairings that can work. I laughed at the end when. You said an "abstract answer." So INFJ. 😄 Thanks, Ren.✌️
I have a dear ISFP friend, and maintaining a friendship with her is difficult sometimes. But it's always worth it, for her life advice alone. And we have fun together, as long as her mood doesn't dip too low. I can't see living with an IFSP as an INFJ though, it's a connection that needs lots of breathing room.
Always enjoying to listen to you. Fe Fi can clash, in a same way for Te Ti. In the case INFJ INFP, with the 8 functions model. INFJ have also a good Fi, and INFP can have a good Fe. With a little effort to go into their shadow/unconscious functions, learning from each other, see parts of themselves in the other person, they can get along well. Or maybe INFP could be overwhelming for INFJ, I don't know. It can be easy for INFJ, INTJ to lost themselves in a relationship by adapting to others. It depend of what an INFJ want in a relation, we are all different, 2 INFJ can looking for different things in a relation. Maybe he want to be fully understood and listened, another INFJ or INTJ could be perfect, or ENTP or ENFP. Maybe he want someone to help him with to be more comfortable with the external world (a Se user ?) It also depend of the other layers of the personality of each other (enneagramn, subtype, experiences, psychological conditions...) and how the person evolved. To connect with someone, I think we need similarities between the 2 types (same functions in part or totally) or interests in common, connection points. I find it very interesting the dynamic with the shadow/unconscious side, we can have fear of it and in same time be attracted to it, want to discover it, aspire to be like it. You right, the goal is to integrate our shadow/unconscious side (for the goods and bad aspects which come with: hidden talents and vulnerabilities) The unconscious hide us treasures.
I’ve often seen ENFJs purported as an ideal match for INFPs, and ENFPs similarly described as really good for INFJs. I wonder if there’s so much room for natural dysfunction between these types, why they are then so often presented as ideal matches for one another.
ENFJ and INFP, oof… I don’t know about ideal match, but a promise of huge personal growth if both sides can work through their differing perspectives and appreciate each other’s worldviews
Ti and Ni are the deeply satisfying INFJ functions to click with in other people. My long-term intimate relationships have been with INTJs, INTP, and one ENFJ. I'm seriously sapiosexual, so it can be hard to find partners. I don't find Fi intellectually stimulating but I do find it self-absorbed. I have a couple of INFP friends, but they are incapable of seeing my pain.
Possible but not 'technically' speaking. The INFJ would have to relent most of the time. As you say, whether that's a good or bad relationship is another thing, as the emotional needle for the INFP very rarely shifts.
Assuming he’s actually NiFe vs. “INFJ.” I’d only trust CT for that identification before making any claims as to compatibility. I certainly wouldn’t use memebti or Keirsey/MBTI to make that assessment or conclusion. That in itself is the first hurdle. The individual claiming to be one based on one model may very well not be. What then? I’ve not had these issues with any FeTi users. It’s certainly not related to some supposed “analytical thinking” that Fi users are lacking.
So are you saying just let them be. They seem very unyielding. I'm starting to think they actually don't have the capacity or too much internal stubbornness. They are often just not nice people, something about their vulnerability/sensitivities toward "me only" or the thinking in very small circles. Or naturally internally resistant to change, just their wiring.
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Great video. When interacting with high Fi users, it helps me to remember that they ARE DEEPLY AND INTENSELY EMOTIONAL, but because their feeling is introverted, it might not be as easily and as evidently noticeable in conversation, but it is definitely still there. We Fe users want to see and feel the EXPRESSION of that emotional intensity. Fi users FEEL INTENSELY, but don't necessarily EXPRESS it in ways that are easily seen. But I have come to realize they are deeply emotional, deeply feeling individuals, and the mystery of it all is absolutely beautiful to me.
Thanks for this video, as an INFP with a very close INFJ friend I agree with what you said, however i think the obstacle doesn't end when you first meet, but rather once you start getting close you start realizing more conflicts arising. I saw our friendship as pretty equal as i tried to not "use" my friend as a counselor, and i was pretty open about his ideas and art. But my friend saw it as unequal as he told me he was walking on eggshells as he felt i was morally judging (taking too personally) his Ti ideas and he was trying to accommodate me. I had no idea he was accomodating so much, since he hadn't told me. It hurt my feelings as I want my friends to be able to be themselves around me, even if I'm sensitive. I tried to be more mindful of not poking at his Ti ideas and asking my friend about his feelings rather than always bringing up mine at whatever topic. There will always be a sense of otherness, but airing out the frustrations without blaming or judging can do a lot of good and create a more solid sense of harmony.
I’m an INFJ and my boyfriend is an ISFP and my best friend is an INFP. I appreciate their Fi so much and in some way, I envy them. They have a strong sense of self and never compromise on their beliefs. It’s inspiring to be around them. I also appreciate talking to them and getting their counsel when I am unsure of what to do in a complexe situation. I guess that we have similar values thought, and the relationships would not work as well otherwise…
INFJ's can be in relationships with anyone, we just hope they realise that we need some alone time once in a while, to recharge mainly, and that they are not overly clingy or overbearing.
People tend to think that the type of person that would be perfect for INFJ's is an ENTP, yet both types would clash in an epic way, the only type that would be perfect for INFJ's is another INFJ and the reasons are because they both know each others limitations, need for alone time and both do not have tendencies to go out and party, whereby putting themselves in the position to cheat on their partner.
Good
From my experience with having a relationship with an infp is that I always felt like I'm walking around egg shells, and I always had to figure her out she would barely express her emotions or reach out to me, she was unhealthy but regardless that's how my experience has been with Dominant Fi users, it's very draining to constantly have to figure them out, It's fi is focused on itself and so is Fe focused on the Fi, Fi Doms barely explain themselves, so essentially it's an exhausting cycle.
I'm reading your book on the INFJ, 'The Ecstatic Soul'... so far very good. Had some pretty good insights early on. Loving it!
Delighted to hear it, Francky!
Fi is rather tricky for me to understand fully, although I think that for INFJ’s, people who have Fi are unequivocally valuable to us. The reason why is because since we get swept around by others feelings so much we tend to not think to what we want. Fi users are there to remind us to think about what we really want instead of what others want.
I think there are times where I clash personally with Fi dominant users because I have a very logical approach to life in general, and I want to have everyone heard. Fi users usually see this as an attack on a specific value of theirs and they become vocal on it, and I have to criticize it further in terms for the sake of my understanding and also for the sake of other’s understanding.
I think I tend to enjoy the company of high Ti users with dominant Se (ESTP’s and ISTP’s) more because they know what to value in accordance to reality but in a way that I understand, which in term helps me understand what I want
One of my best friend is an INFP and we have been friends for more than 20 years. We do clash quite a bit, but no one gives me more space or understands me like she does. I notice that she is more willing to sit and feel her emotions, which I sometimes see as sulking. In my case, I feel like ok, you felt the emotions, let's move on now. Whereas I see my emotions, sometimes don't understand them, and I try to rationalize them to see what information they are giving me. I see the difference really about Fi focused on feeling the emotions and talking about the feelings. Whereas I don't want to feel the emotions; I want to just go straight to Ti or connect it to my Ni. However, INFP are wonderful because they can sit with you and accompany you without judgement to feel the emotions, whereas I want them to go down a deeper level and take away a learning from those feelings.
To summarise what I understood from this video, if we can mutually appreciate what the other person has to offer, and learn from their perspectives, values and emotional expressions, then INFPs and INFJs can successfully be in a relationship and benefit from each other.
I can firmly confirm your ideas Renaud. Me, an INFJ, have been in an romantic relationship with an INFP for a year now and we constantly end up in 'clashes' about my non-individualistic and non-authentic behavior. She wants me to speak up about my emotions en inner feelings, but honestly I often do not have any of those as long as we both live in harmony XD. Since the first 'clash' I saw the great opportunity this relationship offered me to learn about myself. Actually, she learned me about MBTI and ever since I have been in a rollercoaster (which is really an understatement), learning about myself, her and others through your YT channel and book, Carl Jungs writings and my own observations. I want to take this opportunity to really thank you for your content, always spot-on.
However, the relationship now seems to become a little bit problematic since she seems unwilling (maybe 'unable' is a better word here) to see this relationship as an opportunity to learn about herself too :( ; I think she is now really focussing on her conscious functions, thereby leaving no room available for integration of her shadow parts which I reflect. So I think a 'red flag' arises when one person in the INFJ-INFP relationship is unwilling/unable to learn about her shadow functions, obviously XD. Unfortunately, this asks for a great deal of self-reflective capacities, knowledge, self-consciousness and suffering actually, which typically come in play in late adolescence I think. Behaviorally or cognitively this can be seen when problems regarding INFJ's authenticity or individuality (broadly-speaking) arise, as far as I know. Which, ofcourse, is in a certain sense kind of contradictory and therefore reflective of the INFP's unwillingness to open up his or herself to individuation, because, I dont know why actually, INFJ's are maybe THE most authentic people when they have matured to a certain extent (i.e. for me in particular, acquiring self-knowledge on how Fe can determine the life of an INFJ as reflected by non-decisiveness, non-assertivity and conformity). So when an INFP seems not to be able to RESPECT the INFJ's qualities and person and vice versa, and wants a matured INFJ to really change, than this relationship can become problematic, obviously. My mother is also an INFP and I do not experience any of this with her because we both seem willing to learn from each other. But I (spiritually) believe my girlfriend will also be able to do so really soon :). I love her so much that I dont care how many times we again need to go through these 'clashes' at this point, as long as she can proof to me to be able to respect me and also learn from me from now on.
I can really recommend you reading 'The Power of Now' by Eckhart Tolle Renaud. It really teaches you how to be conscious (of 'yourself'); it teaches how to use Se. Then, reading about Carl Jung's ideas actually does not matter anymore XD, but rather becomes a joyful play.
Only after replying to this video, for the first time actually, I noticed that the video had 44 views and was published 44 minutes ago
Si/Te are where the biggest sources of misunderstanding lie. These functions seem to leave people to take certain premices for granted. Te for mutual goals and assessments . Si for the existence of a strong sence of personal preference, based on attachment to previous experiences, where there quite often are none, and thereby no true answer to certain questions they expect me to weigh in on or open up about.
Hey, if you don't mind, can you help me differentiate between Si and Ni? I have concluded that my dominant function is an introverted perceiving function ( Si or Ni). But I can't decide which one is it. My primary mode of functioning is like this "I get interested (obsessed) with something and then when I try to do anything else unrelated to the topic of interest I start getting insights about connections with the current topic with my topic of interest. As a result I can't learn about the current topic optimally as I am constantly get directed by these insights". Does it sound like Si or Ni?
I never was with anyone who was like me, whatever it is that I am. I took on their lives and was exposed to many things I would not have experienced. I thought they inspired new revelations and they did, but it turns out those people didn’t care about those ideas as much as they pretended to. I surrendered to get peace. Over time, I’m more strongly what I am because I adopted and took on guiding principals that were my only solace in terribly lonely relationships. Wherever I end up, I will try and look for deeper meaning, to have friendships that challenge each other to our own best highest. Even my friendships with animals and birds is such that I learn their ways and don’t try to push them to adapt to me. Because they feel valued we have very emotion filled friendships. I cry with pure relief when two brother birds return after the worst part of winter is over.
I hope whatever answers you’re looking for become clear this year, and that it be your best year ever.
I’m a bit late to this party, but I was thinking that the success of such a relationship might depend very much on the secondary functions of each. Ni and Fi in the raw can be like an irresistible force running into an immovable object. It doesn’t have to be like that if both people have mature, well developed secondaries. Ne is a wonderfully playful function and Fe can be the same in the hands of a flexible Ni primary. I’ve not been in such a relationship myself but I can’t help feeling this is where a truly magic relationship could be found - one that would be like a midwife to a shared Fi/Ni encounter, a shared journey of individuation.
It would be different with an ISFP, and that would provide very different challenges for an INFJ.
This is very helpful insight, thank you! It helps me clarify what I'm going through. As a high Fe user (not sure if I'm INFJ, though) I'm painfully aware of how attracted I am to Fis, but also 'hate' them for making me feel envious and inferior. But it's only because I undervalue Fe and glorify Fi, as well as because I'm in the process of integrating my shadow.
In the past I wasn't aware of this and I would just abandon Fis after a while, rather passive-aggressively, because I could no longer stand to be in this 'imbalanced' relationship, had no awareness of what was going on, and had no guts to tell them what was going on.
Since I've been in therapy which has resulted in more and more individuation, shadow integration, I've been able to stick it out with Fis, so to speak. And have only become richer for it, and achieved deeper connections. It's still a challenge, though. But your explanation really helps with this current phase.
I can't wait for further individuation. I know it's going to bring me more and more gifts.
I still don’t know for sure, but my ex-husband may be an INFP, and we did get along great for many years, but the disconnect came in what (I gather) was this Fe/Fi clash. He is very much a person who does what he feels and doesn't care about what others feel. Or rather, he doesn't read the room very well. I can understand the questioner feeling like they do, but I agree we have to decide what obstacles, if you will, we are willing to try to overcome or at least mitigate as best we can, in order to create a harmonious relationship. Ultimately, I do believe there are many pairings that can work. I laughed at the end when. You said an "abstract answer." So INFJ. 😄 Thanks, Ren.✌️
I have a dear ISFP friend, and maintaining a friendship with her is difficult sometimes. But it's always worth it, for her life advice alone. And we have fun together, as long as her mood doesn't dip too low. I can't see living with an IFSP as an INFJ though, it's a connection that needs lots of breathing room.
Always enjoying to listen to you.
Fe Fi can clash, in a same way for Te Ti. In the case INFJ INFP, with the 8 functions model. INFJ have also a good Fi, and INFP can have a good Fe.
With a little effort to go into their shadow/unconscious functions, learning from each other, see parts of themselves in the other person, they can get along well. Or maybe INFP could be overwhelming for INFJ, I don't know.
It can be easy for INFJ, INTJ to lost themselves in a relationship by adapting to others.
It depend of what an INFJ want in a relation, we are all different, 2 INFJ can looking for different things in a relation.
Maybe he want to be fully understood and listened, another INFJ or INTJ could be perfect, or ENTP or ENFP.
Maybe he want someone to help him with to be more comfortable with the external world (a Se user ?)
It also depend of the other layers of the personality of each other (enneagramn, subtype, experiences, psychological conditions...) and how the person evolved.
To connect with someone, I think we need similarities between the 2 types (same functions in part or totally) or interests in common, connection points.
I find it very interesting the dynamic with the shadow/unconscious side, we can have fear of it and in same time be attracted to it, want to discover it, aspire to be like it. You right, the goal is to integrate our shadow/unconscious side (for the goods and bad aspects which come with: hidden talents and vulnerabilities) The unconscious hide us treasures.
Thanks Ren, this was very insightful :)
I’ve often seen ENFJs purported as an ideal match for INFPs, and ENFPs similarly described as really good for INFJs. I wonder if there’s so much room for natural dysfunction between these types, why they are then so often presented as ideal matches for one another.
ENFJ and INFP, oof… I don’t know about ideal match, but a promise of huge personal growth if both sides can work through their differing perspectives and appreciate each other’s worldviews
Enfp's and Infj's...... NOPE
Not in my experience!
😭 Ji is logical tho 🤷♀️
A whole new world 🧜♀️
A dazzling place I never knew
Unbelievable sights, Indescribable feeling
Ti and Ni are the deeply satisfying INFJ functions to click with in other people. My long-term intimate relationships have been with INTJs, INTP, and one ENFJ. I'm seriously sapiosexual, so it can be hard to find partners. I don't find Fi intellectually stimulating but I do find it self-absorbed. I have a couple of INFP friends, but they are incapable of seeing my pain.
Well, they *could* be in a relationship with infj's. Whether that is a good relatoinship of course is another thing. But technically it's possible
Possible but not 'technically' speaking. The INFJ would have to relent most of the time. As you say, whether that's a good or bad relationship is another thing, as the emotional needle for the INFP very rarely shifts.
Assuming he’s actually NiFe vs. “INFJ.” I’d only trust CT for that identification before making any claims as to compatibility. I certainly wouldn’t use memebti or Keirsey/MBTI to make that assessment or conclusion. That in itself is the first hurdle. The individual claiming to be one based on one model may very well not be. What then? I’ve not had these issues with any FeTi users. It’s certainly not related to some supposed “analytical thinking” that Fi users are lacking.
i don't get it, what can we learn from them?
So are you saying just let them be. They seem very unyielding. I'm starting to think they actually don't have the capacity or too much internal stubbornness. They are often just not nice people, something about their vulnerability/sensitivities toward "me only" or the thinking in very small circles. Or naturally internally resistant to change, just their wiring.
you should go to a dental hygienist for a thorough clean of your teeth, it will improve your speaking and clarity of voice.