Cerulean Blues: Chromium vs Non-Chromium

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  • @InLiquidColor
    @InLiquidColor 5 лет назад +28

    Thanks for the comparison! The granulation of the Cerulean is so beautiful but I like your mixes more with the Cerulean Chromium :)

  • @amongussusybaka
    @amongussusybaka 5 лет назад +9

    This was helpful in finding the difference in both cerulean blues

  • @gorway7
    @gorway7 5 лет назад +11

    I use Cerulean as a colour a lot in my work as it's coolness helps add balance to warmer tones in my compositions, but I have come to prefer PB15 based Cerulean Hues in the main as they are predictably more well behaved in mixes and less distracting when used for things like skies. I do love Cerulean PB35 for some things - It is great for rendering things like lichen on tree trunks and rocks as its ability to flocculate out of mixes can create great textural effects, but for my style of painting, this has only occasional use. My staple for the last 20 years has been the large 21ml tubes of Cotman Cerulean Blue Hue... I love it. I get through at least 2 tubes a year. I have a small 5ml tube of WN PB35 that I has lasted me about 4 years so that puts it in perspective. I recently bought a full pan of Sennelier Cerulean PB35 which is a little less green "like it has a touch of Cobalt" A beautiful sky colour and I really want to start using it more.

    • @stephanes6660
      @stephanes6660 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for sharing your experience. That said, I think you're mistaken about the pigment in Sennelier ceruleum blue: whether it's the basic ceruleum or the one with the red shade, they're both based on the PB28 pigment (not the PB35)...

  • @JohnFishman
    @JohnFishman 5 лет назад +7

    Teoh, you’re the best! You make watching paint dry so fun!

  • @menatullahwahby-bayle2451
    @menatullahwahby-bayle2451 5 лет назад +3

    I’m a huge fan of cerulean blue. The granulation and the fact that it never truly mixes with other colors make it beautiful blue to mix with. You should try out cerulean blue and a tiny touch for transparent pyrrol orange. It makes a beautiful grey where you can see both colors within. Thanks for another great video!

  • @C0raBr0wn
    @C0raBr0wn 5 лет назад +8

    I prefer Winsor & Newton Cerulean blue over Daniel Smith Cerulean blue chromium. Cerulean blue chromium is greener and a bit muddy for me. I have heard that the Daniel Smith version of cerulean is weaker than Winsor & Newton, but haven’t compared them yet. Thanks for another interesting review.

  • @higherground711
    @higherground711 5 лет назад +2

    It's hard for me to say which I like better. I think both are very beautiful and have appealing qualities of their own. Thanks for the comparison Teoh. 👍 😄

  • @Znobishtucon
    @Znobishtucon 5 лет назад +3

    You're convincing me to put the Winsor Newton Cerulean Blue back in my halfpan kit! It just takes so much water and work to make it come alive when it's not straight from the tube.

  • @ArtBrain
    @ArtBrain 3 года назад +1

    I love the Cerulean Blue. I am glad that I accidentally chose it over the Chromium version although I can see the Chromium being useful, when a smooth look is wanted. Thank you!

  • @JunkyardSam
    @JunkyardSam 5 лет назад +1

    Incredible comparison. I would never have guessed they would be so different!

  • @lisathaviu1154
    @lisathaviu1154 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for showing this color. I have avoided using Cerulean Blue because in many paint brands, they use Cerulean Blue Hue, which is pretty much a mixture made from Phthalo Blue. I can see that getting one of these 2 paints could be useful as I progress in learning landscape painting.

  • @ccchk378
    @ccchk378 5 лет назад +1

    I always have big tube of french ultramarine, I thought it's the only blue that can help me to get granulation, but after I watched this video I'll definitely buy cerulean blue. I love seeing the cerulean blue version in your sketch, its pastelly vibe and I really love it. Thanks for sharing Teoh!

  • @EstrafaDC
    @EstrafaDC 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the new video. I have both and have leaned toward the Cerulean Blue, but now after seeing this I like the smoothness (not as granulating) of the Chromium. Certainly for skies which is what I use it for a lot. But I too was surprised by the differences.

  • @LisaSandboge
    @LisaSandboge 5 лет назад +2

    Very nice comparison! Unfortunately now I absolutely have to get the PB35 as I’ve already have the other one! It looks very beautiful!

  • @esthers5876
    @esthers5876 5 лет назад +1

    I've never used either version of Cerulean blue, but I'll try it. From your video, i like the non-chromium but both are lovely. Thanks, Teoh!

  • @berbaas9048
    @berbaas9048 5 лет назад +1

    I like the comparisons very much. I'm a big fan of granulation to the point that I think my blood would granulate quite well. I should see if it will. You can be assured Cerulean blue will be added to my palette.

  • @chammikaiser7740
    @chammikaiser7740 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you Teoh. They both have their merits but like you, I think the cerulean is nicer. Beautiful granulation.

  • @sararamer-dean7846
    @sararamer-dean7846 Год назад +1

    I like my Cerulean Blue from Holbein because it doesn't granulate. We are all so different! But it is always a beautiful hue, whether granulating or not. I use it in wild blueberry paintings.

  • @IrisMG
    @IrisMG 5 лет назад +1

    Cerulean Blue looks like the perfect sky color. I don't like the blue greenish feel to the chromium. That's just my preference. As far as granulation I need to study why that's a good or bad thing. Thanks for the info, Teoh!

  • @michaelhemmingartist
    @michaelhemmingartist 5 лет назад

    I have just bought some Daniel Smith Cerulean chromium but haven't used it enough yet to get a feel for it. I use a lot of cerulean in my oil work so looking forward to testing the chromium in watercolour. Thanks for your videos. very enjoyable & easy to listen to.

  • @SouthernArtGallery
    @SouthernArtGallery 5 лет назад +1

    My favorite is the Chromium version. I use it all the time.

  • @PaulaBean
    @PaulaBean Год назад

    Today I bought a tube of DS Cerulean Blue Chromium (I always used DS Cerulean Blue). I find both a bit weak, but that's in the nature of Cerulean, one has to live with it. I just made some swatches on Arches Hot Pressed and the Cerulean Blue is a bit patchy, while the Cerulean Blue Chromium leaves a better gradient. More experimentation is needed! Thanks for the video, just what I was looking for!

  • @githayang
    @githayang 5 лет назад

    Wow your video posted at the right time.. today I just searching about this colour, and just discovered the name is cerulean blue, and then you post it.. eventhough I'm looking for oil paint, but this also really helpful. thank u 😊🙏

  • @terrymeechan2998
    @terrymeechan2998 5 лет назад +1

    Very infomitive, mahalo! I like the non chromium color best but prefer the chromium mixes.

  • @isabellecade277
    @isabellecade277 5 лет назад +6

    I like both but if I could choose, perhaps the chromium version ? 🤔 thank you for this video Teoh !

  • @jdub3853
    @jdub3853 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Teoh. I've been using DS cerulean blue chromium, but I've just ordered some Holbein Cerulean (PB35). It will be interesting to see how Holbein, which isn't known for granulation, will compare with the Daniel Smith. I absolutely love my cerulean blues, so thanks for posting this!

  • @Cirra7
    @Cirra7 5 лет назад +2

    Before your video I didn't have anything to show the difference so I bought chromium as it was the most recommended of the two on various blogs/YTs. Well darnit now I'm wondering if I bought the wrong one, thanks! Lol!

  • @dragorsi
    @dragorsi 5 лет назад +2

    I appreciate the granulation of PB35 but the mixes with PB36 are just stunning. Very hard not to have both of them. :D

  • @colorcrazy2944
    @colorcrazy2944 5 лет назад

    I have watched this video again & also the video where you just reviewed the PB36, and one of all the blues you used (at least back then). I have the Cerulean blue PB35 but I have ordered the PB36 to compare. I really like blue so I may eventually try all the DS blues lol. I ordered the stick version to avoid the separating & drying problems you have mentioned. Hopefully you will get the commission credit. Thanks for all the videos I really like watching them over & over. :D

  • @aisazia
    @aisazia 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for covering this! I'm curious how they mix with yellows. I have the chromium version as that was recommended in my research but I like non-chromium color and granulation a bit more! Might have to get one to try! :D

  • @miriammoriarty8588
    @miriammoriarty8588 Год назад

    Very helpful, thanks :) PS I really like your sketches, you are so talented!

  • @frenchgrama
    @frenchgrama 5 лет назад

    I loooove cerulean blue and prefer it over cerulean blue chromium however both ceruleans have great uses in certain mixes as you showed

  • @lindyashford7744
    @lindyashford7744 5 лет назад

    I love this mans work! Could we have a video review of one of his books, preferably with lots of nature bits?

  • @pambrown9523
    @pambrown9523 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this comparison... I was surprised at the difference in granulation as well. I certainly had that backwards... LOL! I thought Cerulean blue chromium was the more heavily granulating pigment. So very interesting....🤔🤔🤔💖💖🎨🖌️

  • @asamandhiry8648
    @asamandhiry8648 5 лет назад

    Thank you Teoh once again this was helpful video. I love cerulean blue but never use chromium version.

  • @2lmdi
    @2lmdi 5 лет назад

    I use PB35 mixed with various yellows to do shubs/bushes/leaves for its granulation and separation. I only use ultramarine blues similary but very lightly for their granulation in dark areas.

  • @keepyourshoesathedoor
    @keepyourshoesathedoor Год назад

    7:11 That painting is beautiful.

  • @Kamoolti
    @Kamoolti 3 года назад

    Hi Theo. Very interesting video. Not many people on RUclips explain it with so much details. I would love to see your comparison all cerulean blue from different brands. I have Rembrandt Cerulean which is PB35, and I really like the granulation, I think this brand is underestimated.

  • @pantalonious3984
    @pantalonious3984 3 года назад

    I was very VERY disappointed to discover that Mjello incorrectly labels so many pigments in their sets, most importantly the pure pigment set in which I was expecting Cerulean Blue(the regular version) and instead was given Phthalocyanine Blue Green Shade and they are calling it Cerulean. There are no less than 5 pigments Mis-labeled in the 24 color set alone, and so now I am on the hunt for a good true cerulean as the other option for the pure pigment line is the Chromium variant and I too really want the granulation to shine. . .that’s what brought me to your video here… which was very informative as usual thanks

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      Companies may name pigments differently. E.g. Lemon Yellow could be PY3 or PY175. It's best to look at the pigments rather than the names.

  • @lylylo613
    @lylylo613 5 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing. I haven't been able to find a use for cerulean blue apart from painting skies. It lacks the depth and intensity I like in blues.
    PS. I am having my first experience painting Plein Air with urban sketchers in Seville. I am so excited that I needed to tell you. Wish me good luck.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад

      I use it for softer blues, for light grays, and those pastel-like violet/purples

  • @ginettelachance3280
    @ginettelachance3280 5 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing!✨✨✨🎨

  • @lorideb6688
    @lorideb6688 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Teoh love your colour comparison videos. Any chance of comparing cerulean with manganese blue hue?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад +1

      I’ve that colour but not sure when I’ll make that video.

  • @keltyk
    @keltyk 5 месяцев назад

    You had strong granulation some of the time, with Chromium CB, and sometimes not. Maybe the fine-ness of pigment in paint batches has been variable. This would effect the dispersion properties of the paint. Maybe you used same colour in different brands, and there were differences. I don't know if chromium CB pigment is milled, or is precipitated as a microfine powder. I don't know if normal CB is milled, and has variability across manufacturers. Those things could be worth considering. Basically, you might expect the fine-ness of pigment powder, to affect the outcome. Larger grains causing stronger granulation, and vice versa. But then of course, there might be issues around how pigments react within their binders, but I'm out of my depth in that area

  • @ben-cs6uk
    @ben-cs6uk 5 лет назад

    Great video!!

  • @z4k4z
    @z4k4z 5 лет назад

    Hi Teoh. I find these colour analysis videos very interesting.
    I noticed you labelled the lower two mix areas "PB35 ...", although it's clear the lower one is PB36, so no confusion :-)

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад

      Yeah, I labeled wrongly for that

  • @ladyshadow79
    @ladyshadow79 5 лет назад

    Another great review! Have you tried the QOR version of the Cerulean Blue Chromium? I use it often, and it's one of my favorites. Blessings from North Carolina, Stacy

  • @elainemagliacane
    @elainemagliacane 5 лет назад +1

    I use Holbein's Verditer Blue instead of Cerulean Blue.

    • @Znobishtucon
      @Znobishtucon 5 лет назад +1

      Question: does that Verditer Blue behave with its granulation? I'd love to try it if it had the same expressiveness. Holbein my favorite paint overall, and it was the founder's son himself who sold me on the quality. He gets around conventions and is awesome.

  • @micrologus2
    @micrologus2 Год назад

    I’m a huge fan of Cerulean but from W&N. I don’t like the Daniel Smith one

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner 5 лет назад +1

    They are both Cobalts, right? Just one has Chromium instead of Aluminum?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад

      Not sure about that. I don't think so since they would have listed Cobalt.

  • @alexsandercoelho7484
    @alexsandercoelho7484 3 года назад

    Thank you for the great video! I know this is a old one, but I was wondering if you could answer a question: knowing that you squeeze the tubes into pans, are both Ceruleans hard to rewet when dry or they are on the easy to rewet side?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад +1

      Both rewet well

    • @alexsandercoelho7484
      @alexsandercoelho7484 3 года назад

      @@teohyc That's great! Thank you for answering Teoh!

  • @Shesvii
    @Shesvii 5 лет назад

    Weird, my cerulean blue from the brand Venezia is a mix of PW4 and PB15:1.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад

      Different brand may use different formula

  • @Waynimations
    @Waynimations 5 лет назад

    I would’ve never noticed the difference if it wasn’t for you

  • @suzalasuzala1135
    @suzalasuzala1135 5 лет назад

    Teoh Is there a difference on staining or lightfastness between the two? Tia

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  5 лет назад

      Not sure about those differences. I did not test for staining. According to Daniel Smith, the non-Chromium is non-staining while the Chromium is less staining.

    • @ulutiu
      @ulutiu 5 лет назад +1

      both have perfect lightfastness as one might expect from cobalt pigments

  • @mariajosegarciabarroso1006
    @mariajosegarciabarroso1006 Год назад

    Acabo de cojer el. Cerurelqn cromo. Però e repetido el. Normal. Un poco por miedo 😅

  • @KittehNow
    @KittehNow 3 года назад

    WOW! This video really helped me out with trying to decided which one of these blues is best for my palette...I choose chromium..THANKS TEOH!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊