I recently started watercolors and bought my first palette a couple of months ago. Its a VanGogh and I noticed that I haven't made much of dent in any of the pans except Sap Green which is about halfway gone. :D So yes, I LOVE sap green
I use Sap Green. I also mix yellow and black to make olive green and ultra marine and sap green. I try to use 3 colours of green when trying to show shadows and sunlight
I like sap green, it’s a really nice color, even if I use often olive green, because I live in the south of France and it is the color of Provence with many many olive trees. 😉 Thank you Teoh !
I know if I'm buying a green it's always Sap Green! Sometimes, depending on the brand (or art supply) I don't mind Green Gold either, as they seem to be quite similar, and it just comes down to which one I like better.
Sap green is my favorite green, and I always have it on my palette. Qor paints are rapidly becoming my favorite brand, and their sap green is so beautiful! Thanks for another great video - I appreciate all the work you do to create such helpful and informative videos! 👍😊🌸
I have been using the m.graham sap green and absolutely love it .. I also use the apatite green a lot .. I love the granulation in it.. is so interesting to work with!! Thanks for all the info. And hope all is well with sweet Tiffany
I like the new formula. Who knew you could improve sap green. But the old is still beautiful. When you added ultrimarine and burnt sienna , that combination was beautiful !! Karen from Canada
For me, Phthalo Green is king. Out of the tube, the colour IS terrible, but the colours you can achieve with mixing are really quite special. Especially with Alizarin Crimson.
Sap green is so beautiful! Thanks for showing us the difference between the old and the new Daniel smith sap green :D I really like it that the new one is a bit warmer than the older sap green. It will fit the landscape art I do perfectly because there is soooooo much sap green colour in our nature here in Iceland
I'm not sure why, but in my Windsor and Newton Cotman set, the given sap green seems really dull and hard to get some colour out of it. I really love the veridian colour though
Perhaps because I am a beginner I don't know much....but I really enjoy using Sap Green from my WN set. However, yeah Viridian is really fun :-) but never sure how to use it as it's a staining colour so a little goes a long way! Will try making grey with it by adding Alizarin Crimson. Thanks for the tip. Appreciate it.
I really love Daniel Smith Undersea green, and genuine Jadite. I have M. Graham nickel Azo yellow in my pallette too, and Sennilier Brown Green, and adding the tiniest dab of either to get a more golden green I find really adds a lot of depth because both of those greens granulate like crazy, and every have some weird color separation going on, as if part of the Jadite is staining slightly more bluish while the sedimentary granulation part is more of an oxide-like warmer color. But it's a single pigment primatek color. The Undersea green granulates out the same way, with a greyer sediment and a more golden tan overall glow. Here in Southeast Alaska everything is coniferous forest or maritime, so those greens are perfect for my everyday use and they blend into shadows and have super deep dark pigment loads from the tube, so they have a great range. But you've convinced me sap green is worth using in field sketches to reduce the number of pigments one carries. I have an issue with wanting to use 'all the colors' and time and again you show that often times less is more. Thanks for doing these!
I also like Green Apetite genuine -live the natural color also and very granulating-oh-oh-and green gold-love this one also-those are my three carries😊
I agree, I think I'm going to add Green Apatite to my palette when I run out of the old DS Sap Green. I'm also a fan of the DS Green Gold, it's hard to mix it myself to get the glow it manages.
i've been usually mixing my own greens on the recommendation of a few watercolorists i follow, but in my actual practice, i find myself needing that natural green color often that i'm contemplating just buying a premade one for convenience :P i guess we can take as much advice as is available, but we just need to do what works best for ourselves. thank you for the review
Do you have your paint in tubes? If so, you could consider premixing the yellow and blue you use anyway in a separate pan & stir well with a paperclip ;-)
I do use Sap Green. Generally for trees, however, I under paint with light washes of yellow, red, or orange and then glaze Sap Green on top. I try to mimic Autumn colors. This probably doesn't work for tropical plants though.
I have 3 sap greens and none of then have PO 49 in them. Two are a mix of PG 36/PY 110, and the other is PG 8/PY 3. I know green is a secondary color but I probably have more green hues than any other color or at least as many as I have reds and blues. I noticed that the tube of old Sap Green you have looks like it has been wound around your finger or something (perhaps as an attempt to get the most out of it?). If you don't already have one, I recommend you look into getting a tube wringer...they can really squeeze every last drop from a tube of paint (and hand lotion and toothpaste for that matter)!
I think Sap green is probably a good replacement for other greens, because it can be blended well with other colors and get some interesting effects. its a more explorable color.
Until I started watercolor painting a couple of years ago, I didn't know how much I loved green. I've heard many watercolor artists long for the old formula. Sadly, the PO49 is no longer available in quantities that allow for the manufacturing of the old formula. I'm glad to hear your perspective on the new formula. Yes, it's a bit more yellow, but it's just as lovely.
As far as the other greens I use, I have every single pigment DS green and all the green PrimaTek colors. I use Undersea, Serpentine, Sap, and Perylene greens most regularly.
Hello Teo, I rarely use sap green. Furthermore, I try and use just single pigment colors. Thus I do not keep this on my palette. The only green on my palette is Daniel Smith Amazonite. Happy painting!
Yes, I do use it a lot but currently I am using the Sennelier (PB 29 PY 153) which is gorgeous, too. I want to try the Schmincke Sap Green (PY 153 PG 7) but I think it leans to the bluish PG 7 more. My father always used to mix his foliage greens with May Green (Schmincke PY 155 PG 7) I believe. He did a lot of plein air painting in his day using a small/limited palette, much like you do.
Love sap green ! as well as fragonard pebeo olive green ... I can make SO many gorgeous colors with these .. but on their own each is a beautiful stand alone color ! ... Great video ... and demonstrations.... ( as ALWAYS ) : ]
Hi Teoh! I'm a green monster! My DS palette has only two greens, one of which is Sap green. I have SIX greens in my Holbein palette. They are mostly convenience colors, but I love to have fun with them and they really are a fast way to layer value in foliage. I always seem to find ways to use them. Here in Arizona the vegetation changes drastically with change in elevation, think pine trees down to cactus, and having lots of greens is useful. Thanks and already looking forward to your next upload!!
Hello Teoh, i like sap green but not the D.S's version, my favorite is Winsor newton professional-perm sap green. It looks more natural to me:), and perform better in wet in wet:). Thanks for the video!
Daniel smith sap green is gorgeous!! I have sap green in other brands and all of them are similar to this one but the Windsor and Newton cotman sap green is awful! I think my favourite sap green is QOR sap green
Teoh, very useful color. I do use a lot of sap green, but hardly ever alone. Your test swatch seems to have a bit more yellow on the new formula. Thanks again. Hope all is good with Tiffany.
I still love sap green. After split primaries, sap green and yellow ochre would be my color choices for a palette. Plus burnt umber and either black (for rare times when I need it) or a nice violet (cause purple is awesome, but it’s hard to find pretty ones that aren’t dreadfully fugitive or are $$$).
I do have a few greens but only the single pigment colours and then mix until I get the colour I want. I do love that sap green from daniel smith though and the green gold (which I do have a tube of, but don’t keep in my palette).
🙋🏼♀️ I don’t!.... No... just kidding! I love Sap Green! I’m kind of sad that the single pigment Quinacridone Gold is no longer available. It’s good to know that the new Daniels Smith formula isn’t all that different from the original formula. Thank your for the helpful video. I use a Pocket Palette from Expeditionary Art, loaded with 28 mini pans as my quick sketching palette when I’m out and about. It lives in my handbag and goes with me everywhere! I also like to use Daniel Smith’s Green Gold, Deep Sap Green, Under Sea Green, and Prussian Green to help me save time while doing quick, little sketches.
It's a bit more yellow, though, isn't it? I managed to get a few tubes of the discontinued *REAL* Quin Gold before they disappeared and still have it in my palette. May have to just mix my own sap green. Thanks for the info about the other greens. I want to check out Prussian Green as I haven't seen that one.
Estrafalario I meant that the new Sap Green wasn’t all that different from the old. 🤗 But, yes the new Quinacridone Gold is definitely a bit more yellow, and doesn’t quite mix as nicely with other colors. What are we going to do, though? We’ll just have to tolerate it, I suppose. 😆 I bought Prussian Green on a whim because I love Prussian Blue. It’s a lovely muted teal green, though, and I find it very useful in my quick sketching palette. I’m sure I could just mix it, but I got tired of mixing all the time. I get impatient when I’m sketching and just want to splash some approximate color on, let pigments mingle on the paper, and get on with it. I’ve also replaced Phthalo Blue AND Phthalo Green with Phthalo Turquoise. I found myself mixing those two all the time to get turquoise anyway. Cool thing is Phthalo Turquoise mixes and mingles well with many other colors. It makes a lovely blue with Carbazole Violet, and a lovely range of greens with various yellows, oranges, and browns. By itself it’s gorgeous.
In the swatches I can definitely see the more yellow side of the new sap green. When mixed with other colors it probably isn't noticeable. Maybe it's just me, but it's like a yellow green eye staring back at me. Thanks for the comparison Teoh. 👍 😄
Sap Green is the green in my palette too... it is a favorite. I didn't realize they had changed the formula, I guess any colors that used to contain PO49 had to change when they ran out of the pigment.
I like sap green but never use it from the tube. I always mix it with something. I prefer darker greens such as PG8 , then phtalo green and green gold (PY129). I could do without sap green because green gold mixed with PG7 makes a beautiful sap green and I am not limited to a single shade.
What nice video! I'm really more concerned at this point that I stick to pigments that are light fast and I seem to like granulation a lot. I've gone through my palette and weeded out all fugitive pigments, especially Alizarin Crimson, which used to be a favorite. It WILL fade and so will the permanent variety. I use the Quincridones (red and magenta) instead. I'm believe Daniel Smith is very reliable (most of my palette brand) so it's probably ok, pigment- wise. It's lovely in your demo. I checked: its lightfastness is rated as excellent, so no problem there.
I would argue "sap green" doesn't exist as a standard paint. In my set sap green is quite a different color being a mix of phtalogreen pg7 and hanza lemon py3. Sap green just means yellowish light green to me. This goes for all convenience mixtures. Looking at pigment numbers helps, other than that only trying them out. Of course checking out other peoples tryouts is gfeat too; thanks for the vid😉
Well said. I see "sap green" everywhere in nature, but....I prefer to have variation in colors and can mix my own "sap green" with blues and yellows or use Viridian and mix it with a warm or cool yellow. The only green I use is Viridian which is similar to Pthalo green and it's more of a convenience color.
I used to not like it... until I used it in a bee painting and fell in love with Qor's... I hate that I love it because that means I made the mistake on not loving it. We have a complicated relationship 😂😅
Teoh- At the beginning of the video, you said that if you could only have four colors on your palette, you would have one each of the primaries plus sap green. Can you tell us which shade of the three primaries you would choose?
I do use sap green occasionally but more often I would mix my greens from phthalo green and viridian. Although your mixes are really nice so it might be time to try sap green again 😁
It's amazing to me that you see a darker green when you add ultra marine blue because all I see is ultra marine blue over sap green. I don't see a shift. I see a whole different color. I really need to work on the "artists" eye. Any suggestions?
Sap green. I have a couple others, but don't use them that much (perylene green and cascade green--which is nice for water); Perylene is in my palette but cascade is not.
It seems like Daniel Smith moved toward a warmer green by adding that Nickel Azo Yellow (PY150) instead of just using their new *pseudo* Quin Gold (PY48) and Pthalo Green (PG7). I'm curious what mixing PY48 and PG7 would get to a closer approximation of Sap Green. May have to try that out.
I love yellowish-sap green. When I was a noob with watercolor, I bought 24 pentel watercolor tubes. Even though they had green, I liked to make it myself... until I found sap green. I didn't like any green before until I found sap green
There is something about sap green that is mesmerizing. Oh also the company that made your Arches watercolor sketchbook... Is it just in Singapore or will they do that for anyone? How much did it cost? I am interested depending on price. Thanks
Teoh, I've been using Winsor & Newton's Permanent Sap Green for a long time. It's a mixture of PG 36 (phthalocyanine green) and PY 110 (isoindolinone yellow). Don't have any DS sap green to compare it to, any comments?
Don't think I even own any Sap Green, I haven't painted in years. I did find a half pan of Schminke Hookers Green 2. I mostly just mixed them. I realized that I don't have any Payne's Gray either. How trends have changed in twenty years. I'll probably have to pick a tube of each to try. Mostly using a limited pallet back then.
Teoh, here where I live, Daniel Smith paints are very difficult to find and they are also very expensive. I would very much like to invest in a few basic colours to start off with (I have always used Winsor & Newton paints, but I want to take it up a notch in terms of quality). Alternatively, I can find a better priced set of 6 tubes, containing a warm and cool colour in each of the primaries. Which start off colours do you recommend and which is the best way to go about it? Appreciate it!
Winsor & Newton also makes very high quality paint. You can check out some recommendations here www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolor-sets-beginners
Hetul Katyal: When I was new to watercolor painting, I bought some student brands that were not very good quality, and which I don’t want to use now. They are, however, fun to use for stamping! 😊🌸😻
I only have QoR watercolors 24 pack. This comes with3 greens.... green gold, sap green, and viridian green. I dont think any of these greens are good on their own so often I mix sap green viridian green and paynes gray together to get a green i like more. I mix on my pallet more than on paper. I have just ordered the earth shades and 8 open stock colors they will be coming on the 22nd i have a list of 11 more i will be ordering over the next few months. This will double my color choice to 48.i have a few new greens that I will be playing with. My issue w sap green is that its too yellow. I use it more if I'm painting something plant wise thats dieing. Or for seaweeds in my underwater things. I am new to watercolors ive only really been using them as a staple for a year. It would be really cool if you could go look at my pieces on my instagram account @ladycyr. I have been looking for a waterproof pen so that was very helpful that you listed what you use. I usually have to put the pen on last if I use it. Im currently doing world watercolor month and I am doing their animal challenge. I am attempting all 62 animals. I am also attempting them without using my pen outlines.
Crap. I will be looking for the old 2 pigment sap green. I see the difference and i am used to adding a touch of transparent yellow to get the new shade jn the field but i have the choice of adding it or not. Darn....stop messing with my paints daniel green.
That new Sap Green looks warmer to me.
I recently started watercolors and bought my first palette a couple of months ago. Its a VanGogh and I noticed that I haven't made much of dent in any of the pans except Sap Green which is about halfway gone.
:D
So yes, I LOVE sap green
I like sap green and also olive green by Sennelier. My favorite green, though, is perylene green.
I'm so happy there are so many of us who love this shade, it's such a lush colour! Kind of reminds me of matcha powder.
I just bought a Danial Smith, Sap Green so im to hear your positive comments and i love sap green too.
I use Sap Green. I also mix yellow and black to make olive green and ultra marine and sap green. I try to use 3 colours of green when trying to show shadows and sunlight
I like sap green, it’s a really nice color, even if I use often olive green, because I live in the south of France and it is the color of Provence with many many olive trees. 😉 Thank you Teoh !
I love your color mixing on paper and I love Sap Green. I mainly paint nature and landscapes. Thank you!!
I know if I'm buying a green it's always Sap Green! Sometimes, depending on the brand (or art supply) I don't mind Green Gold either, as they seem to be quite similar, and it just comes down to which one I like better.
Sap green is my favorite green, and I always have it on my palette. Qor paints are rapidly becoming my favorite brand, and their sap green is so beautiful! Thanks for another great video - I appreciate all the work you do to create such helpful and informative videos! 👍😊🌸
I have been using the m.graham sap green and absolutely love it ..
I also use the apatite green a lot .. I love the granulation in it.. is so interesting to work with!! Thanks for all the info. And hope all is well with sweet Tiffany
I LOVE sap green! My new favorite is Undersea Green by Daniel Smith. I use these two in almost every painting.
sap green is a wholesome color
SAP green is must have colour since I get introduced to it apart from burnt sienna.
I like the new formula. Who knew you could improve sap green. But the old is still beautiful. When you added ultrimarine and burnt sienna , that combination was beautiful !! Karen from Canada
For me, Phthalo Green is king. Out of the tube, the colour IS terrible, but the colours you can achieve with mixing are really quite special. Especially with Alizarin Crimson.
i love sap green!
I do use Sap green. It's my most used green and I love it. Right now I have Winsor & Newton version. Thanks for sharing :)
I love sap green. I use Winsor &Newton sap green. Its the only green in my palette. I like to mix it with other colors as well as use alone.
Sap green is so beautiful! Thanks for showing us the difference between the old and the new Daniel smith sap green :D I really like it that the new one is a bit warmer than the older sap green. It will fit the landscape art I do perfectly because there is soooooo much sap green colour in our nature here in Iceland
I'm not sure why, but in my Windsor and Newton Cotman set, the given sap green seems really dull and hard to get some colour out of it. I really love the veridian colour though
Viridian is awesome. I typically mix in some alizarin crimson and it makes this super nice grey green.
TheHumster Yeah that Cotman green is not A+. Its almost a throwaway
I love Cotman Viridian!!
Even I love Viridian. I get almost black by mixing it with crimson.
Perhaps because I am a beginner I don't know much....but I really enjoy using Sap Green from my WN set. However, yeah Viridian is really fun :-) but never sure how to use it as it's a staining colour so a little goes a long way! Will try making grey with it by adding Alizarin Crimson. Thanks for the tip. Appreciate it.
i love sap green. one of my favorite colors
Using Sennelier and I was choosing between Olive and Sap green. Glad the attendant helped me get the Sap Green.
I really love Daniel Smith Undersea green, and genuine Jadite. I have M. Graham nickel Azo yellow in my pallette too, and Sennilier Brown Green, and adding the tiniest dab of either to get a more golden green I find really adds a lot of depth because both of those greens granulate like crazy, and every have some weird color separation going on, as if part of the Jadite is staining slightly more bluish while the sedimentary granulation part is more of an oxide-like warmer color. But it's a single pigment primatek color. The Undersea green granulates out the same way, with a greyer sediment and a more golden tan overall glow. Here in Southeast Alaska everything is coniferous forest or maritime, so those greens are perfect for my everyday use and they blend into shadows and have super deep dark pigment loads from the tube, so they have a great range.
But you've convinced me sap green is worth using in field sketches to reduce the number of pigments one carries. I have an issue with wanting to use 'all the colors' and time and again you show that often times less is more. Thanks for doing these!
Thanks for sharing 😁
I also like Green Apetite genuine -live the natural color also and very granulating-oh-oh-and green gold-love this one also-those are my three carries😊
I agree, I think I'm going to add Green Apatite to my palette when I run out of the old DS Sap Green. I'm also a fan of the DS Green Gold, it's hard to mix it myself to get the glow it manages.
sap green is a lovely color.
I, too, use sap green frequently. Undersea green is also very useful.
I use White Nights Indian yellow (PY150) and Indanthrene blue(PB. 60) It mixes a great sap green
SAP GREEN IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITES COLORS TOO
By rule of thumb I don’t care for 3 pigment mixes....so sad that DS changed yet another color. My favorite green is WN olive green.
i've been usually mixing my own greens on the recommendation of a few watercolorists i follow, but in my actual practice, i find myself needing that natural green color often that i'm contemplating just buying a premade one for convenience :P i guess we can take as much advice as is available, but we just need to do what works best for ourselves. thank you for the review
Do you have your paint in tubes? If so, you could consider premixing the yellow and blue you use anyway in a separate pan & stir well with a paperclip ;-)
I do use Sap Green. Generally for trees, however, I under paint with light washes of yellow, red, or orange and then glaze Sap Green on top. I try to mimic Autumn colors. This probably doesn't work for tropical plants though.
I have 3 sap greens and none of then have PO 49 in them. Two are a mix of PG 36/PY 110, and the other is PG 8/PY 3. I know green is a secondary color but I probably have more green hues than any other color or at least as many as I have reds and blues. I noticed that the tube of old Sap Green you have looks like it has been wound around your finger or something (perhaps as an attempt to get the most out of it?). If you don't already have one, I recommend you look into getting a tube wringer...they can really squeeze every last drop from a tube of paint (and hand lotion and toothpaste for that matter)!
Or, you can cut open the empty tube, let the last scraps dry out, then put the flakes in a plastic pan and wet it a bit so it sticks.
I think Sap green is probably a good replacement for other greens, because it can be blended well with other colors and get some interesting effects. its a more explorable color.
Until I started watercolor painting a couple of years ago, I didn't know how much I loved green. I've heard many watercolor artists long for the old formula. Sadly, the PO49 is no longer available in quantities that allow for the manufacturing of the old formula. I'm glad to hear your perspective on the new formula. Yes, it's a bit more yellow, but it's just as lovely.
As far as the other greens I use, I have every single pigment DS green and all the green PrimaTek colors. I use Undersea, Serpentine, Sap, and Perylene greens most regularly.
Hello Teo, I rarely use sap green. Furthermore, I try and use just single pigment colors. Thus I do not keep this on my palette. The only green on my palette is Daniel Smith Amazonite. Happy painting!
doodle date 😂
glimbri yeah,Steph hates Sap green 🤣🤣
sap green is a beauty
STEPH
I use Sap Green also and I really like it too; just like I really like your channel :)
Thanks 😁
Yes, I do use it a lot but currently I am using the Sennelier (PB 29 PY 153) which is gorgeous, too. I want to try the Schmincke Sap Green (PY 153 PG 7) but I think it leans to the bluish PG 7 more. My father always used to mix his foliage greens with May Green (Schmincke PY 155 PG 7) I believe. He did a lot of plein air painting in his day using a small/limited palette, much like you do.
I looove sap green! It's my favorite green along with olive green!
Thank you for the ultramarine blue mix tip.
Love sap green ! as well as fragonard pebeo olive green ... I can make SO many gorgeous colors with these .. but on their own each is a beautiful stand alone color ! ... Great video ... and demonstrations.... ( as ALWAYS ) : ]
Hi Teoh! I'm a green monster! My DS palette has only two greens, one of which is Sap green. I have SIX greens in my Holbein palette. They are mostly convenience colors, but I love to have fun with them and they really are a fast way to layer value in foliage. I always seem to find ways to use them. Here in Arizona the vegetation changes drastically with change in elevation, think pine trees down to cactus, and having lots of greens is useful. Thanks and already looking forward to your next upload!!
Hello Teoh, i like sap green but not the D.S's version, my favorite is Winsor newton professional-perm sap green. It looks more natural to me:), and perform better in wet in wet:). Thanks for the video!
Sap green is my favourite color, i doubt i ever made a piece without using it in some way or the other!
I like sap too. I switched it for viridian in my new palette I just made but I love having sap green on hand. :)
Am i the only one who thinks of sap green as a matcha color
I never thought of that but now I do!
Daniel smith sap green is gorgeous!! I have sap green in other brands and all of them are similar to this one but the Windsor and Newton cotman sap green is awful! I think my favourite sap green is QOR sap green
Cotman is the highest line I have for sap green. It’s much better than the Hobby Lobby stuff! Lol.
But I agree, #NotMySapGreen
Teoh, very useful color. I do use a lot of sap green, but hardly ever alone. Your test swatch seems to have a bit more yellow on the new formula. Thanks again. Hope all is good with Tiffany.
I still love sap green. After split primaries, sap green and yellow ochre would be my color choices for a palette. Plus burnt umber and either black (for rare times when I need it) or a nice violet (cause purple is awesome, but it’s hard to find pretty ones that aren’t dreadfully fugitive or are $$$).
I do have a few greens but only the single pigment colours and then mix until I get the colour I want. I do love that sap green from daniel smith though and the green gold (which I do have a tube of, but don’t keep in my palette).
Hi beautiful color😊😊😊 Thank you 😊
🙋🏼♀️ I don’t!.... No... just kidding! I love Sap Green! I’m kind of sad that the single pigment Quinacridone Gold is no longer available. It’s good to know that the new Daniels Smith formula isn’t all that different from the original formula. Thank your for the helpful video. I use a Pocket Palette from Expeditionary Art, loaded with 28 mini pans as my quick sketching palette when I’m out and about. It lives in my handbag and goes with me everywhere! I also like to use Daniel Smith’s Green Gold, Deep Sap Green, Under Sea Green, and Prussian Green to help me save time while doing quick, little sketches.
It's a bit more yellow, though, isn't it? I managed to get a few tubes of the discontinued *REAL* Quin Gold before they disappeared and still have it in my palette. May have to just mix my own sap green. Thanks for the info about the other greens. I want to check out Prussian Green as I haven't seen that one.
Estrafalario I meant that the new Sap Green wasn’t all that different from the old. 🤗 But, yes the new Quinacridone Gold is definitely a bit more yellow, and doesn’t quite mix as nicely with other colors. What are we going to do, though? We’ll just have to tolerate it, I suppose. 😆 I bought Prussian Green on a whim because I love Prussian Blue. It’s a lovely muted teal green, though, and I find it very useful in my quick sketching palette. I’m sure I could just mix it, but I got tired of mixing all the time. I get impatient when I’m sketching and just want to splash some approximate color on, let pigments mingle on the paper, and get on with it. I’ve also replaced Phthalo Blue AND Phthalo Green with Phthalo Turquoise. I found myself mixing those two all the time to get turquoise anyway. Cool thing is Phthalo Turquoise mixes and mingles well with many other colors. It makes a lovely blue with Carbazole Violet, and a lovely range of greens with various yellows, oranges, and browns. By itself it’s gorgeous.
WWendi Kasey Golden likes Sap Green
WWendi : Thanks for your excellent comment - very informative! 🌸👍😻
I only use Daniel Smith's sap green. No other greens. I love it!
In the swatches I can definitely see the more yellow side of the new sap green. When mixed with other colors it probably isn't noticeable. Maybe it's just me, but it's like a yellow green eye staring back at me. Thanks for the comparison Teoh. 👍 😄
Your sketches are great! 😁😁
Thanks 😊
Sap Green is the green in my palette too... it is a favorite. I didn't realize they had changed the formula, I guess any colors that used to contain PO49 had to change when they ran out of the pigment.
I like sap green but never use it from the tube. I always mix it with something. I prefer darker greens such as PG8 , then phtalo green and green gold (PY129). I could do without sap green because green gold mixed with PG7 makes a beautiful sap green and I am not limited to a single shade.
What nice video! I'm really more concerned at this point that I stick to pigments that are light fast and I seem to like granulation a lot. I've gone through my palette and weeded out all fugitive pigments, especially Alizarin Crimson, which used to be a favorite. It WILL fade and so will the permanent variety. I use the Quincridones (red and magenta) instead. I'm believe Daniel Smith is very reliable (most of my palette brand) so it's probably ok, pigment- wise. It's lovely in your demo. I checked: its lightfastness is rated as excellent, so no problem there.
I would argue "sap green" doesn't exist as a standard paint. In my set sap green is quite a different color being a mix of phtalogreen pg7 and hanza lemon py3.
Sap green just means yellowish light green to me. This goes for all convenience mixtures. Looking at pigment numbers helps, other than that only trying them out.
Of course checking out other peoples tryouts is gfeat too; thanks for the vid😉
Well said. I see "sap green" everywhere in nature, but....I prefer to have variation in colors and can mix my own "sap green" with blues and yellows or use Viridian and mix it with a warm or cool yellow. The only green I use is Viridian which is similar to Pthalo green and it's more of a convenience color.
I used to not like it... until I used it in a bee painting and fell in love with Qor's... I hate that I love it because that means I made the mistake on not loving it. We have a complicated relationship 😂😅
I use DS sap green always. It is my favorite!!!!!
I love SAP Green!✨✨✨🎨
Beautiful color. My sap green is a bit too bright. I’m planning to try mixing it with yellow ochre to tone it down.
Teoh- At the beginning of the video, you said that if you could only have four colors on your palette, you would have one each of the primaries plus sap green. Can you tell us which shade of the three primaries you would choose?
Perhaps Hansa Yellow Medium, Transparent Pyrrol Orange and Phthalo Blue.
Teoh Yi Chie this would make a fun video.
I use the sap green that comes with the tiny Winsor and Newton pocket size palette and find it to be quite sheer.
I do use sap green occasionally but more often I would mix my greens from phthalo green and viridian. Although your mixes are really nice so it might be time to try sap green again 😁
Sap Green is life. If I had to only use one green ever, it'd be Sap. First 'pro' color I ever bought, Daniel Smith, and I've not regretted it once.
Steph's doodle date hate sap green though...
I'd love to see her reaction to this!
I was thinking the exact same when I read the title haha!!
I was gifted a WN Sap Green, but haven't really tried it yet. It is PG36 + PY110 (perhaps mix that up and compare with your current one).
It's amazing to me that you see a darker green when you add ultra marine blue because all I see is ultra marine blue over sap green.
I don't see a shift. I see a whole different color. I really need to work on the "artists" eye. Any suggestions?
Love it.
MEEEEE! I never use it but I don't do alot of grass. When using green I use dark green.
I have a perlyne and a azo green on my palette and when I mix them it looks like a sap green
Sap green. I have a couple others, but don't use them that much (perylene green and cascade green--which is nice for water); Perylene is in my palette but cascade is not.
Great video!
It seems like Daniel Smith moved toward a warmer green by adding that Nickel Azo Yellow (PY150) instead of just using their new *pseudo* Quin Gold (PY48) and Pthalo Green (PG7). I'm curious what mixing PY48 and PG7 would get to a closer approximation of Sap Green. May have to try that out.
I love yellowish-sap green. When I was a noob with watercolor, I bought 24 pentel watercolor tubes. Even though they had green, I liked to make it myself... until I found sap green. I didn't like any green before until I found sap green
There is something about sap green that is mesmerizing. Oh also the company that made your Arches watercolor sketchbook... Is it just in Singapore or will they do that for anyone? How much did it cost? I am interested depending on price. Thanks
It’s around SGD 40-50+. That includes the price of the paper that you have to buy. Takes 2 weeks to make.
I use sap green a lot
Teoh, I've been using Winsor & Newton's Permanent Sap Green for a long time. It's a mixture of PG 36 (phthalocyanine green) and PY 110 (isoindolinone yellow). Don't have any DS sap green to compare it to, any comments?
I tend to enjoy mixing greens, and I like olive green best.
Don't think I even own any Sap Green, I haven't painted in years. I did find a half pan of Schminke Hookers Green 2. I mostly just mixed them. I realized that I don't have any Payne's Gray either. How trends have changed in twenty years. I'll probably have to pick a tube of each to try. Mostly using a limited pallet back then.
If I dont have sap green, how to mix it? Thank you!
I'm also curious how Sap Green combines with New New Gamboge and Lemon Yellow. I think I'll buy a tube.
In the meantime I bought a tube, and I'm not disappointed!
I LOVE me some sap green 😍
Sap green is nice, but emerald green is my favourite.
Teoh, here where I live, Daniel Smith paints are very difficult to find and they are also very expensive. I would very much like to invest in a few basic colours to start off with (I have always used Winsor & Newton paints, but I want to take it up a notch in terms of quality). Alternatively, I can find a better priced set of 6 tubes, containing a warm and cool colour in each of the primaries. Which start off colours do you recommend and which is the best way to go about it? Appreciate it!
Winsor & Newton also makes very high quality paint. You can check out some recommendations here www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolor-sets-beginners
I wonder if you can use diluted watercolor as fountain pen ink 🤔
I don't think so. Watercolour is pigmented and when dry will clog the fountain pen.
@@teohyc exactly what I thought
Hetul Katyal: When I was new to watercolor painting, I bought some student brands that were not very good quality, and which I don’t want to use now. They are, however, fun to use for stamping! 😊🌸😻
I only have QoR watercolors 24 pack. This comes with3 greens.... green gold, sap green, and viridian green. I dont think any of these greens are good on their own so often I mix sap green viridian green and paynes gray together to get a green i like more. I mix on my pallet more than on paper. I have just ordered the earth shades and 8 open stock colors they will be coming on the 22nd i have a list of 11 more i will be ordering over the next few months. This will double my color choice to 48.i have a few new greens that I will be playing with. My issue w sap green is that its too yellow. I use it more if I'm painting something plant wise thats dieing. Or for seaweeds in my underwater things. I am new to watercolors ive only really been using them as a staple for a year. It would be really cool if you could go look at my pieces on my instagram account @ladycyr. I have been looking for a waterproof pen so that was very helpful that you listed what you use. I usually have to put the pen on last if I use it. Im currently doing world watercolor month and I am doing their animal challenge. I am attempting all 62 animals. I am also attempting them without using my pen outlines.
kasey golden love sap green! :D
I replaced Sap Green with green apatite genuine DS
I'm think I'll do the same when I run out of the old formula Sap Green, Green Apatite is amazing!
the green is a deeper green, the old one is muted and duller, where the new one is brighter with more yellow
The new sap green looks more Vibrant
i wanna buy pen support windows tablet under 700$ and i can use only clip studio paint what should i chose? i'm newbie pls help me
See if you can find good prices for Surface Pro 2017, Lenovo Miix 510 or Lenovo Miix 520
im colorblind and I can tell a diference between the two of them
oof another colour to add to my wishlist
Yeah to me the new formula definite looks a little more yellow. I almost prefer looking at the old formula.
I must have Hooker green and sap green.
I like Hooker Green too
Crap. I will be looking for the old 2 pigment sap green. I see the difference and i am used to adding a touch of transparent yellow to get the new shade jn the field but i have the choice of adding it or not. Darn....stop messing with my paints daniel green.