Honestly, the most graphic part of it for me was that tiny moment between when the king says "I love you" and she, not knowing WTF is about to happen, goes from confused to terrified as they pull her down. The SOUND. The SOUND of her clothing sliding on the bed is what got me.
100%. The situation itself is horrible, but they don't even tell her what's about to happen. I've had the luxury of having a c section with an epidural and knowing exactly what was happening. It's horrible trying to imagine yourself in her shoes.
It’s rare you guys miss the point! The birth scene was uncomfortable on purpose. They knew we’d want it off screen. That was the point tho - men shedding blood is celebrated and have parties/tournies around it, while women are expected to bleed and die quietly offscreen because their sacrifice is considered less important and not glorious
Yes, we absolutely 100% come here because we know you guys are vulnerable and genuine people, we don't expect you to make jokes at every point, and we are on this ride with you. I'm *so* sorry this was a brutal thing to go through for you, but it absolutely is a fact that childbirth was and still is a dangerous thing for a woman to go through, and the United States is the only developed country where the maternal mortality has gone up. It is a difficult thing for anyone to talk about, but it sincerely NEEDS to be talked about. It absolutely IS upsetting, and it should be upsetting to see a woman have to die in order to give birth, and personally I am glad to see it isn't something that you shrugged off without thinking twice about it unlike some of the other reactors. **BIG HUGS FOR JAY** we are here for you, man. And big props to Adam for being there to let you know when you need to look away and even take out the earbuds to keep from being even more upset.
i honestly love how empathetic you are. i've seen other reactors make comments like ''just slice her open lol'' during the c-section scene. it's really nice to see people feel for these characters, it certainly was a very impactful and well acted scene.
That is kind of demented and worrying. I haven't seen a single reactor not act disturbed and concerned by that scene. Those people are missing some empathy.
@@dhritidutta6231 yeah who is so emotionless and cruel? I haven't seen anyone reacting this way fortunately. My favourite reactors are actually people with feelings
I think as horrible as I was, Rhaenyra's mothers death scene being a horror show and us not getting the relief of cutting away was a really good choice. It does a good job of showing us why she's so scared of getting married and having children, and the reality of being a women in westeros at the time.
When the actress who plays Allicent first read the script for S01E01, she said she totally thought that a ROMANTIC relationship would be developing between Allicent and Rhaenyra, and you can tell from their joint interviews of the main press junket that they got along REALLY well, so I think they did play up that possibility.
Yep they ended up getting corrected on that later in the show. That said a lot of this behavior isn't that uncommon for young girls who are best friends for years either.
@@jonathanradut2595 ya don’t think that was portrayed in the slightest. I think there was a hint of targ affection undertones shall we say with the necklace from daemon to wonder about but nothing at all with the friend.
I was totally shipping them too. There's unmistakable chemistry right there. But by the end of the episode it was clear that alicent wouldn't be ally. The voiceover had me convinced and the actress did a great job portraying it subtly.
The thing that I appreciated most about the birth scene was that it was handled with far more emotional maturity and nuance than any really violent scenes in GoT was for me.
If you remember back to season 2, Arya was with Tywin talking about Aegon the Conqueror and his sister wives. Visenya, wielded Dark Sister. And Arya mentioned the sword. Wanted to be her. Rhaenyra just asked to name the baby Visenya if it was a girl. Also, Daemon didn’t say Heir for a Day like Otto said he did. The point was to show Otto sucks and is out to get Daemon. Glad you are reacting!
Yeah, it was to show Otto twisting the context and intent behind Daemon's speech from what we heard Daemon was sounding very sincere in the way that he was choosing his words but then Otto twisted it to make it seem like he was mocking his nephews death. But from the way that Matt Smith was delivering that speech it didn't sound like he was mocking him.
I just messaged my pregnant sister and BEGGED her to let me give her a spoiler just so she has been warned and can choose to watch or not. Also offered to send time stamps if she decides to skip… Brutal, and heart wrenching in its realism. Thank heavens for feminism and modern medicine.
I'm very excited for this show, but as someone who had a traumatic birth with my son, I was not okay after this. Still, I'm glad they made people pay attention. Birth can be a battlefield that very few care to acknowledge or talk about.
Yep, and as graphic as this c-section scene was... still less graphic than what it really is like. I feel like in 2022 even it's important to have people question these kinds of things, childbirth is dangerous, it is risky, it is graphic. To this day, a lot of women still die in childbirth. In a world where abortion rights are questioned or even erased completely, it makes you think.
My daughter was in breach and my wife had an emergency C section. The nurses etc moved calmly... but they were NOT wasting time and sadly I've watched enough realistic depictions and read things... let's just say the 20-30 mins of me pacing by myself in scrubs in the waiting area was the longest scariest time of my life. Almost 5 years later, I still have my girls and they are the most important thing to me.
My mom needed a c-section & the closest hospital at the time was a catholic one. They were more than happy to let her die to save me, but thankfully, my gramps had some strong words with the doctor & they saved both of us. I 100% support her decision to choose herself over me. I would've, if I was in her position. I'm very thankful she was able to even have a choice.
I’m SO glad somebody else felt sapphic vibes from Alicent and Rhaenyra because I thought I was reading too much into it when I watched for the first time. Spoilers for Episode 2… . . . . . . . I have been wondering if that’s part of the reason that she feels so betrayed by Alicent in episode 2. She keeps mentioning how a man won’t make her happy and I can’t help but think there’s a possibility that there’s more to that
It helps that GRRM is directly involved in producing/helping with this show. It was he that told the producers about "Aegon's dream and approved the dialogue for it between the King and his daughter.
Honestly I don't even think that is the best part. George Martin is personal friends with Ryan Condal and specifically picked him. The main showrunner/writer. Ryan Condal has been a huge fan of the books for 22 years and re-reads them quite regularly. He knows this world inside and out and he said he texts with George Martin daily. He is a far cry from the Game of Thrones showrunners, who said they didn't read the books much and also made it clear in interviews they would change things sometimes just because they "felt" it would be better. Miguel Sapowschki (sp?) who was also a showrunner for this first season, and did some of the better episodes of GoT, was a great director, but was part of the influence, along with D&D for why they changed some names and the like of characters. According to interviews Miguel wanted Rhaenys' name changed for House of the Dragon because he felt it was too similar to Rhaenyra's and it would "confused viewers". Ryan Condal refused to do that and is really trying to stay true to George's work as much as possible and respects the intelligence of viewers. He also runs his own podcast that's all about film and tv props, and interviewed the armorer for House of the Dragon, who makes all the armor for the characters. Very cool. Alex is replacing Miguel after season 1, and worked on GoT since season 1, and also directed a lot of the best episodes of the show. That, alongside there being multiple talented writers for this show, plus the book being finished, I think it is in very good hands.
This. Having him back and much more involved gives me so much hope for this series. And the colours and sigils being more present was a specific request he made from the production.
I’m so glad you guys are posting these not for my sake but for yours. I think it’s an incredible opportunity for more people to find you and how funny you are. I’ll keep my Patreon account just to support you guys because you honestly deserve it. But I’m happy these will be on RUclips.
I appreciate y’all’s honesty in why you almost didn’t post this. I check this channel first when I want to see a reaction to something I care about, but that is an extremely valid reason and I know your community supports you either way! ❤️
Well he was partly right. The actual song of ice and fire is Jon and dany even though Jon himself is fire and ice. The books will do them justice. If they ever come out.
34:00 I'm with you, Jay. I had something very similar happen (as far as watching somthing like that) years ago when my wife was pregnant with our first child. I was working evening shifts at a hotel at the time, and when there weren't customers you could hust watch TV or whatever. I was flipping through and came across an episode of ER where a mother was giving birth. Baby was born. Father left with the baby thinking everything was fine. Mother took a turn and didn't make it. Last shot was the doctor hesistantly walking into the nursery to tell the father, holding his new baby, that his wife didn't make it. Even though that was 20 years ago and both of my children were born healthy, that still haunts me sometimes. Scared the shit out of me.
Oh you poor sweet summer children 🤣it’s hilarious watching some of your takes knowing where this goes. I can’t wait to see what you think going forward! Rhaenyra & Daemon are the absolute best, I’m anxiously awaiting the third episode!
@@suzannekelly2826 yes! But it’s a big spoiler if you don’t want to know. So SPOILER ALERT It’s coming up very soon! (Look away now if you don’t want to know yet)………. This whole season is leading up to what’s called the dance of the dragons. It’s a civil war with two sides. Rhaenyras team is team black and Alicent/her son Aegon are team green. Based on the different color dresses they wore to a feast. Team black and team green became what they called the two different sides of the war for succession.
@@rachelfallonauthor lop I didn't even look thanks for telling me before I see iit....so hard not to see someone spoil something..esp the ones who have read the books
If you guys wanna go to a Renn Faire, the New York Renn Faire is still open until the weekend of October. It's in Tuxedo Park, just over the NJ/NY border, maybe an hour from Manhattan? Possibly?
Had to crack up a little in that extended intro of Adam pleading that you're trying to make the best possible choices in difficult circumstances with life or death stakes (for the channel). That is....very thematically appropriate for this show. 😂
Ay bois just wanted to say keep up the good work. I watch about ever reacter on RUclips and you guys are in my top 3 but yall have the best reactions and responses on RUclips. You deserve the world and don't be afraid of the internet
@@darknessmoto9912 why? bit disturbing that all you want is two teens to be straight. if they’re gay they lose all value? quit with this BS that everyone has to be straight
@@escapeatdusk2576 😂😂😂 lazy response. You see I never said that all I wanted was for them to be straight. In attempting to use my words against me you’ve only displayed your lack of a true response. Your ability to reason goes no further than a toddler parroting my words against me in an attempt to provoke an emotional reply. Do better, be better
I think Adam has the right idea when he suggested tetanus as the cause of King Viserys' wound given that we see him prick himself on the arm rest of the Iron Throne at the very end of the episode. The birth scene was very uncomfortable for me especially as I am married to a nurse that knows a lot about midwifery who has birthed three children of our own. I think they chose to show the scene fully for two reasons, first to highlight the very real perils of childbirth that are still very much happening today and second, to shed a harsh light on the consequences of men taking away women's bodily autonomy by making decisions like this for them.
I agree about your second point. Also this is now a time where men have to come to terms with the fact that their pregnant spouses might not get help if something goes wrong during pregnancy. If you are in a red or purple state it is a very real possibility that doctors are not going to help (out of fear of being arrested) and that women will die.
I first watched your reactions to ST episode 4, dear Billy and absolutely back tracked and subscribed to watch all of your reactions to it. Im so glad you are watching this, and oh dear gawd I fell in love with your reaction, especially the birth scene. You are now, one of my favourite reactor teams and I adore you both. Thank you.
Im so glad you are doing these on here now because now you will get included in those multi edits like J2O and it really isn’t the same without you guys in those
SO happy that you're uploading these reaction videos to RUclips. I enjoy your reaction videos so much and have been really looking forward to this series reactions, and I appreciate your initial apprehension to upload due to fear of potential copyright strikes. Really hope you have no issues going forward. Love these vids, keep up the great work you two.
I've had an emergency C-section and was woken up with no pain meds given to me 😬 got an infection because they had no time to prep before cutting me open. I definitely cringed and felt ill watching this.
I am not a woman so I definitely can't properly empathize with this, and I do feel bad for anyone that this hit too close to home for. That said I think it was a good thing in some ways because it made a lot of people, especially men, consider things about pregnancy and the nature of it they probably hadn't before, especially men without children. While some sensitivity and delicacy and respect is needed with things like this, I think too often these subjects are avoided entirely by media, and that has created its own problems in society and culture.
I think you guys took Aegon’s vision too literal. It doesn’t say “hey, a Targ has to literally be the one to defeat them.” It simply says a Targ has to unite the realm to defeat them. Which is exactly what happened. Jon, a Targ, got the North, Wildlings, and Dany to help. Arya would not have been able to kill him without all of them.
@@30noir What are you talking about? They said Aegon’s vision changed the original show. I simply showed that it didn’t. I didn’t say a word about “George’s vision.” Or his non-existent books that will never come. While we’re at it, George himself said he wanted to make sure that the canons between all GOT shows stay consistent. He worked with this show, therefore its canon is consistent with the original SHOW.
@@fotsnacks8705 nah, if certain leaks are to be believed, HOTD is going to distance itself pretty clearly from Season 8 and cling a lot closer to the actual lore of the books, and some people suspect its going to set up Jon to be the actual Prince that was Promised in his standalone show and end up defeating the Great Other or something in the true Long Night, and what we got in Season 8 will be written off as the first wave or something. which honestly would be fantastic, the only other way id have them do it is to just de-canonize season 8 altogether and chalk it up as a lost cause, and go forward from there.
Jay, in reference to the 'silver-hair' line in the brothel: "No, that's a Lannister thing." Me, looking sideways: "You know the Targaryens are like the Habsburgs, right?
Truthfully it was EXTREMELY rare to do a c section before the modern era. I looked it up and medieval midwives were way more concerned about the life of the mother over the baby. When it became possible they would actually take the baby out bit by bit to save the mom when it became clear the baby was going to kill her,
I loved your reaction and especially how sensitive you guys are with regard to the birth scene. I had the luxury of a c section with a functioning epidural and full knowledge and consent as to what was happening. The queen did not. I understand not having modern pain medicine in Westeros, but couldn't they have just knocked her out? And at the very least explained the situation to her? Her confusion followed by fear and panic feels like a violation. Given that Jay is looking to start a family, I completely understand why it's so difficult to watch. Overall I've enjoyed both episodes a lot. I think the show benefits from GRRM's direct involvement, as well as being able to take from a story that is fully complete at this point. Looking forward to your reaction to episode 2!
They gave her as much milk of the poppy as they safely could if they gave her any more it would start to affect the baby. Sure, they probably could have physically knocked her out like.... hitting her on the head hard enough to make her loose consciousness... But they couldn't have done anything with medicine, from what I can tell. I think she was also SO confused because of the amount of milk of the poppy they had given her which is technically like opium, I think. But she was probably also exhausted from the pain which would have also made her a bit confused.
I loved seeing their reaction, too - that scene really captured the terror of birth and I'm glad it doesn't only hit hard for people that went through it. And yes, I had my own (stillbirth) c-section under a full anesthesia and in her place I'd have preferred them to just knock me out no matter how before doing that whole thing fully conscious and no warning. Big kudos for the actress here, too!
It is hinted that Valyrias Doom was caused by the Faceless Men when they assassinated the wizards who kept the giant vulcanos there at bay with blood and fire magic. Thats likely why they captured so many slaves, they used them for blood magic to tame the vulcanos. They also supposedly created a bunch of monsters by twisting humans and animals alike with blood magic. Thats how dragons supposedly came to be which is why there are no other beasts in nature that are on the same level as dragons. Though we know that the Valyrians themselves did not create dragons, not in Valyria, because in the far east there were dragons long before the Long Night, which was before the rise of the Valyrian Empire. But the forefathers of the Valyrians likely created the dragons, and they used them to build Asshai and the Five Fortresses in the far east. Dany sees a vision of these forefathers, four of them who look like Targaryens, like all Valyrians, but only one of them has purple eyes, they all have eye colors that match the associated gem colors dedicated to each far eastern Emperor, showing that these are indeed the forefathers of the Valyrians. Game of Thrones could have included these deep running ancient conspiracies and prophecies. They should have added three more seasons with 10 episodes each where they actually went and explored this like the books seems to be doing. In the books Dany is not going to Westeros, shes going to Asshai where all the secrets will be revealed as foretold by Quaithe. Imagine how cool that would have been, to go deep into the mythology of this world. But instead we get bland assassin Arya stabs the Night King and then everything is over. No prophecies of the Last Hero, Azor Ahai, the Bloodstone Emperor, Jon the Night King, none of it. It's a damn shame. I can't wait for the last 2 books to finally be done, by George or his trusted companions. Then maybe someone can pick up the show again to redo the whole thing fully planned to the end where no major characters and plotlines will be cut just to remove the fantasy from the early seasons. And give the Valyrians their purple to blue-ish eyes damnit.
So so so so so happy you guys have managed to get this on here, thank you guys for trying so hard to work around the copyright lords 🤣🙏🙏 Love your reactions as always
It’s so good being back in this world. I also forgot how bloody it was. I almost couldn’t watch the birth scene. I laughed a little too hard at he’s right behind me isn’t he?
I just discovered you guys and I REALLY love this reaction. I've watched quite a few reactions to this show already and yours is one of the best. I really hope you continue to react to this show. I'll watch every one.
First time commenter full time pReview'd fan.... when will you do a D&D game? I would totatally podcast, subscribe to you both. I find you both a delight, a highlight of my week that good reactions, to good content and would love ... ABSOLUTELY love to see some Original Content!!!! You both are amazing and so fun to watch. Makes me think of my brother and I hanging out shooting said "POOP" EMOJIS. So thank you. You are not alone, but you are magic.
Jay & Adam let me honest with y’all… I have been a long time Peach and just recently joined the Orchard on Discord & Twitch… I have wanted to make joining the Patreon work for a while and when HotD was starting I made it work. I was not disappointed with watch along (poor Jay my heart hurt for you). BUT I totally understand why y’all hesitated to put it on the RUclips & I’m not at all upset about finally joining Patreon and would never think you would bait & switch us Peaches. * I’m a Peach because of how honest & genuine both you guys and your reactions are. Much Love from Canada 🇨🇦 🍑 (CdnPeach/CanadianPeach)
Love that you guys put the episode up on RUclips! I'm a Patreon member but it's great when more people can watch your stuff. Also, WB has gotten new leadership recently, what with being bought out by Discovery. They got a new CEO and everything. I'm wondering if we might eventually see a change in policy for some of this stuff.
Sadly funny that as you say this WB is literally striking channels for tons of old reactions. Not claims. Full strikes. Literally killing channels completely. Yay new leadership!
Hopefully it will all work out. I know Omni put out a post yesterday asking his viewers to check out some of his other outlets in case his You Tube channel disappeared overnight. Fingers crossed WB realizes someday that all of this only helps them in the long run.
Two things. First: hugs. Your capacity to feel is my favourite thing about you guys. But second, I feel really strongly they HAD to include the visceral nature of the birthing scene. It’s brutal, and horrid, and too true to even imagine. I never want to see it again, but I think it was deeply, painfully moving in its depiction. The juxtaposition with “playing” (that seems like a…. shot game? 😳) at war, and the traumatic reality of womanhood in feudal times is still a little closer to home than I’d like.
@@Squeekysquid oh you're right But yeah, you just can't introduce me to like an eleven year old and think that's gonna be ok She'll always be a kid in my eyes
@@Drummer4President no. It wasn't cool. She was fourteen in the books. But I hadn't known her for 8 years as a child. So in a way it was less shocking than when a legitimately grown woman I'd known since she was eleven had a sex scene But no, obviously that wasn't cool. Though she seemed pretty happy about it pretty quickly. That makes it... murky.
So a game of thrones episode was airing on the day of my birthday and I was so excited that i had like a dinner party and everything with all of my nerdy friends....and it was the episode where the Night King killed the dragon with an ice spear. I was so sad.
I’m so glad you decided to show these on RUclips. I’ve seen other reaction channels do so and their reactions don’t seem to be taken down. So if the powers that be decide to go after you you have a real case of bias against you. I also hope you bring your reactions to ring of power to RUclips.
Thank goodness you posted that after reaction intro. It felt good knowing you had both (although in this instance, Jay, especially) had recovered from the trauma of HotD(ragon). Now I can look pleasantly look forward to GARDEN SCENE, GARDEN SCENE, GARDEN SCENE! Seen episode 2, you know what I mean. I can already imagine Adam going NOOOOOOO! And Jay going That's not right. I do NOT think so. Also, several hours later the video is still up so yay for avoiding striking out. After all, no one wants to see a homeless Jay and Adam, carrying a placard saying we will react, review and riff for food. No! No one wants that. 😱😱😭😭
I was expecting y’all to say, ‘we looked at all the other reaction channels and saw it got a shit ton of views 😂’ but i’m happy y’all are doing reactions to this
I don't know if it was my comment or not that led you to drop the highlights, but good call! I already did the watch-alongs on Patreon, but of course I'm going to watch this and give it a thumbs up! Thanks guys! And I hope this helps drive channel growth for you. Edit: So, I know you're nervous about Rings of Power, but the other channels are posting and seem to be doing fine. Maybe you'd be fine with posting those as well? 🤷♂️
Welcome back to Game of Thrones everyone, with scenes so graphic you're relieved that they cut back to knights murdering each other.
Lol why is this so accurate? And true?
Honestly, the most graphic part of it for me was that tiny moment between when the king says "I love you" and she, not knowing WTF is about to happen, goes from confused to terrified as they pull her down. The SOUND. The SOUND of her clothing sliding on the bed is what got me.
Right? Like he was such a wuss he couldn’t even tell her what was going on. First time we were shown Viserys is weak as fuck.
Right? For me it was when they were prepping her and her screams were getting more and more frantic and wondering when or if they’d cut away.
It literally made me cry and need a cigarette break.
Bro...
100%. The situation itself is horrible, but they don't even tell her what's about to happen. I've had the luxury of having a c section with an epidural and knowing exactly what was happening. It's horrible trying to imagine yourself in her shoes.
It’s rare you guys miss the point! The birth scene was uncomfortable on purpose. They knew we’d want it off screen. That was the point tho - men shedding blood is celebrated and have parties/tournies around it, while women are expected to bleed and die quietly offscreen because their sacrifice is considered less important and not glorious
Reflecting back to what the queen said about the birthing bed being their battlefield.
5 million times yes !
Absolutely yes
Thank you for this!
Interesting interpretation. Not at all what they were going for in my opinion.
I appreciate Adam doing the “mom seatbelt with the arm, when you’re in the front seat” move to help cover Jay’s eyes during THOSE parts. Nicely done!
“Hope we don’t change shirts out of nowhere!” *cut to Jay wearing the same shirt*
I laughed so hard it hurt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, we absolutely 100% come here because we know you guys are vulnerable and genuine people, we don't expect you to make jokes at every point, and we are on this ride with you. I'm *so* sorry this was a brutal thing to go through for you, but it absolutely is a fact that childbirth was and still is a dangerous thing for a woman to go through, and the United States is the only developed country where the maternal mortality has gone up. It is a difficult thing for anyone to talk about, but it sincerely NEEDS to be talked about. It absolutely IS upsetting, and it should be upsetting to see a woman have to die in order to give birth, and personally I am glad to see it isn't something that you shrugged off without thinking twice about it unlike some of the other reactors.
**BIG HUGS FOR JAY** we are here for you, man. And big props to Adam for being there to let you know when you need to look away and even take out the earbuds to keep from being even more upset.
She says it in the episode, "We're women, our battlefield is the birthing bed"
i honestly love how empathetic you are. i've seen other reactors make comments like ''just slice her open lol'' during the c-section scene. it's really nice to see people feel for these characters, it certainly was a very impactful and well acted scene.
That is kind of demented and worrying. I haven't seen a single reactor not act disturbed and concerned by that scene. Those people are missing some empathy.
Who said that? Can you name anyone? Or show the youtuber...?
@@dhritidutta6231 yeah who is so emotionless and cruel? I haven't seen anyone reacting this way fortunately. My favourite reactors are actually people with feelings
@@steampunk_ray3921 i also would like to know
@@dhritidutta6231 it didn’t happen, people say stuff like this for likes…
To me Otto was talking about himself more than Daemon in that moment “the gods have yet to make a man who lacks the patience for absolute power”
So many people think Otto is some mastermind but he reeeeeally isn't.
@@tadcooper9733 have you not seen episode two yet. He's more than you think
Such a great line.
@@CoutureThug I have. He's not
Good call
“So they’re gay right?” THANK YOU like I really thought they were a couple from the first scene alone
Lmao
I think as horrible as I was, Rhaenyra's mothers death scene being a horror show and us not getting the relief of cutting away was a really good choice. It does a good job of showing us why she's so scared of getting married and having children, and the reality of being a women in westeros at the time.
When the actress who plays Allicent first read the script for S01E01, she said she totally thought that a ROMANTIC relationship would be developing between Allicent and Rhaenyra, and you can tell from their joint interviews of the main press junket that they got along REALLY well, so I think they did play up that possibility.
Yep they ended up getting corrected on that later in the show. That said a lot of this behavior isn't that uncommon for young girls who are best friends for years either.
Didn’t see any of that for even a second.
@@GlennShook yeah, they are close friends who grew up together. Not every relationship needs to be romantic
@@jonathanradut2595 ya don’t think that was portrayed in the slightest. I think there was a hint of targ affection undertones shall we say with the necklace from daemon to wonder about but nothing at all with the friend.
I was totally shipping them too. There's unmistakable chemistry right there. But by the end of the episode it was clear that alicent wouldn't be ally. The voiceover had me convinced and the actress did a great job portraying it subtly.
The thing that I appreciated most about the birth scene was that it was handled with far more emotional maturity and nuance than any really violent scenes in GoT was for me.
When the king was discussing Aegon's dream, he had his hand on the dagger, that Arya killed the night king with.
Happy to see you decided to bring these to RUclips.
If you remember back to season 2, Arya was with Tywin talking about Aegon the Conqueror and his sister wives. Visenya, wielded Dark Sister. And Arya mentioned the sword. Wanted to be her. Rhaenyra just asked to name the baby Visenya if it was a girl. Also, Daemon didn’t say Heir for a Day like Otto said he did. The point was to show Otto sucks and is out to get Daemon. Glad you are reacting!
Yeah, it was to show Otto twisting the context and intent behind Daemon's speech from what we heard Daemon was sounding very sincere in the way that he was choosing his words but then Otto twisted it to make it seem like he was mocking his nephews death. But from the way that Matt Smith was delivering that speech it didn't sound like he was mocking him.
I just messaged my pregnant sister and BEGGED her to let me give her a spoiler just so she has been warned and can choose to watch or not. Also offered to send time stamps if she decides to skip…
Brutal, and heart wrenching in its realism. Thank heavens for feminism and modern medicine.
I'm very excited for this show, but as someone who had a traumatic birth with my son, I was not okay after this. Still, I'm glad they made people pay attention. Birth can be a battlefield that very few care to acknowledge or talk about.
Yep, and as graphic as this c-section scene was... still less graphic than what it really is like. I feel like in 2022 even it's important to have people question these kinds of things, childbirth is dangerous, it is risky, it is graphic. To this day, a lot of women still die in childbirth. In a world where abortion rights are questioned or even erased completely, it makes you think.
Exactly. I live in Texas...so this scene made me burst into tears and almost throw up
My daughter was in breach and my wife had an emergency C section. The nurses etc moved calmly... but they were NOT wasting time and sadly I've watched enough realistic depictions and read things... let's just say the 20-30 mins of me pacing by myself in scrubs in the waiting area was the longest scariest time of my life. Almost 5 years later, I still have my girls and they are the most important thing to me.
My mom needed a c-section & the closest hospital at the time was a catholic one. They were more than happy to let her die to save me, but thankfully, my gramps had some strong words with the doctor & they saved both of us. I 100% support her decision to choose herself over me. I would've, if I was in her position. I'm very thankful she was able to even have a choice.
Child birth is part of how we continue as a species sorry but we are not committing suicide the births will continue
Adam. "The hand is now trying to pimp his daughter to the King... hes single."
Jay: "Textbook."
I’m SO glad somebody else felt sapphic vibes from Alicent and Rhaenyra because I thought I was reading too much into it when I watched for the first time.
Spoilers for Episode 2…
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I have been wondering if that’s part of the reason that she feels so betrayed by Alicent in episode 2. She keeps mentioning how a man won’t make her happy and I can’t help but think there’s a possibility that there’s more to that
King’s Landing had a godswood during “Game of Thrones”, too. It was where Ned spoke with Cersei because, as he put it, “the gods are watching”
Rhaegar knew of the prophecy. He believed initially it spoke of him. He later presumed it spoke of his offspring
It helps that GRRM is directly involved in producing/helping with this show. It was he that told the producers about "Aegon's dream and approved the dialogue for it between the King and his daughter.
Honestly I don't even think that is the best part. George Martin is personal friends with Ryan Condal and specifically picked him. The main showrunner/writer. Ryan Condal has been a huge fan of the books for 22 years and re-reads them quite regularly. He knows this world inside and out and he said he texts with George Martin daily. He is a far cry from the Game of Thrones showrunners, who said they didn't read the books much and also made it clear in interviews they would change things sometimes just because they "felt" it would be better. Miguel Sapowschki (sp?) who was also a showrunner for this first season, and did some of the better episodes of GoT, was a great director, but was part of the influence, along with D&D for why they changed some names and the like of characters.
According to interviews Miguel wanted Rhaenys' name changed for House of the Dragon because he felt it was too similar to Rhaenyra's and it would "confused viewers". Ryan Condal refused to do that and is really trying to stay true to George's work as much as possible and respects the intelligence of viewers. He also runs his own podcast that's all about film and tv props, and interviewed the armorer for House of the Dragon, who makes all the armor for the characters. Very cool. Alex is replacing Miguel after season 1, and worked on GoT since season 1, and also directed a lot of the best episodes of the show. That, alongside there being multiple talented writers for this show, plus the book being finished, I think it is in very good hands.
This. Having him back and much more involved gives me so much hope for this series. And the colours and sigils being more present was a specific request he made from the production.
Jay was partly right, a king actually died ON the iron throne. It is implied that he was impaled by sitting on it wrong.
Meagor was found dead on the iron throne I think
Yes Maegor the Cruel. He got cut all the time and was found dead.
Yes. And the theory is that the throne itself rejects bad leaders and that's why it's a bad omen for a King to get cut by it.
I’m so glad you guys are posting these not for my sake but for yours. I think it’s an incredible opportunity for more people to find you and how funny you are. I’ll keep my Patreon account just to support you guys because you honestly deserve it. But I’m happy these will be on RUclips.
I appreciate y’all’s honesty in why you almost didn’t post this. I check this channel first when I want to see a reaction to something I care about, but that is an extremely valid reason and I know your community supports you either way! ❤️
34:35 Rhaegar knew about the prophecy I believe. That was one of the reasons he got together with Lyanna, to bring to song of Ice and Fire together.
Well he was partly right. The actual song of ice and fire is Jon and dany even though Jon himself is fire and ice. The books will do them justice. If they ever come out.
“We’re going to need another Timmy!”
You sent back to my early childhood with that one, Adam. That was a deep cut. 🤣🤣🤣
"We're operating out of fear alone."
"....and he's right behind me, isn't he?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I definitely come for the authentic reactions. My heart broke for Jay and Adam protecting him instinctively was great.
"I think people come to our show because we are authentic and genuine people." THIS. TEA. Yes. Please don't change.
34:00 I'm with you, Jay. I had something very similar happen (as far as watching somthing like that) years ago when my wife was pregnant with our first child. I was working evening shifts at a hotel at the time, and when there weren't customers you could hust watch TV or whatever. I was flipping through and came across an episode of ER where a mother was giving birth. Baby was born. Father left with the baby thinking everything was fine. Mother took a turn and didn't make it. Last shot was the doctor hesistantly walking into the nursery to tell the father, holding his new baby, that his wife didn't make it. Even though that was 20 years ago and both of my children were born healthy, that still haunts me sometimes. Scared the shit out of me.
King Robert Baratheon came from the humble beginnings of A Knight's Tale! Man, what a fantastic movie. Ledger was perfection.
They way I laughed when Jay had on the same shirt LMFAO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the energy you guys have. Shall definitely sign up to watch the full watch alongs. Keep up the great work.
"I love a good spread"
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh you poor sweet summer children 🤣it’s hilarious watching some of your takes knowing where this goes. I can’t wait to see what you think going forward! Rhaenyra & Daemon are the absolute best, I’m anxiously awaiting the third episode!
Right tomorrow can't get here fast enough..like seriously..daemon all day!!
Hey I've been seeing apt of team green team black...u wouldn't happen to know what means?
@@suzannekelly2826 yes! But it’s a big spoiler if you don’t want to know. So SPOILER ALERT It’s coming up very soon! (Look away now if you don’t want to know yet)……….
This whole season is leading up to what’s called the dance of the dragons. It’s a civil war with two sides. Rhaenyras team is team black and Alicent/her son Aegon are team green. Based on the different color dresses they wore to a feast. Team black and team green became what they called the two different sides of the war for succession.
@@rachelfallonauthor lop I didn't even look thanks for telling me before I see iit....so hard not to see someone spoil something..esp the ones who have read the books
@@suzannekelly2826 haha that’s why I put the warning! Don’t worry you’ll find out very soon watching!💕
If you guys wanna go to a Renn Faire, the New York Renn Faire is still open until the weekend of October. It's in Tuxedo Park, just over the NJ/NY border, maybe an hour from Manhattan? Possibly?
Had to crack up a little in that extended intro of Adam pleading that you're trying to make the best possible choices in difficult circumstances with life or death stakes (for the channel). That is....very thematically appropriate for this show. 😂
Ay bois just wanted to say keep up the good work. I watch about ever reacter on RUclips and you guys are in my top 3 but yall have the best reactions and responses on RUclips. You deserve the world and don't be afraid of the internet
Adams facial expressions this episode killed me 😂 I’m so glad you guys are doing this
The giggle that escaped me when Jay said “so they’re gay right?” Because its truly all I want in this world
why?
Why? Bit disturbing that all you want is two teens to be gay. If they’re straight they lose all value? Quit with this BS that everyone has to be gay
@@darknessmoto9912 why? bit disturbing that all you want is two teens to be straight. if they’re gay they lose all value? quit with this BS that everyone has to be straight
@@escapeatdusk2576 😂😂😂 lazy response. You see I never said that all I wanted was for them to be straight. In attempting to use my words against me you’ve only displayed your lack of a true response. Your ability to reason goes no further than a toddler parroting my words against me in an attempt to provoke an emotional reply. Do better, be better
I think Adam has the right idea when he suggested tetanus as the cause of King Viserys' wound given that we see him prick himself on the arm rest of the Iron Throne at the very end of the episode. The birth scene was very uncomfortable for me especially as I am married to a nurse that knows a lot about midwifery who has birthed three children of our own. I think they chose to show the scene fully for two reasons, first to highlight the very real perils of childbirth that are still very much happening today and second, to shed a harsh light on the consequences of men taking away women's bodily autonomy by making decisions like this for them.
💯 percent sir 👌
Its not tetanus. Tetanus has a different clinical presentation. If it were, he would have been dead by the time of episode 2
I agree about your second point. Also this is now a time where men have to come to terms with the fact that their pregnant spouses might not get help if something goes wrong during pregnancy. If you are in a red or purple state it is a very real possibility that doctors are not going to help (out of fear of being arrested) and that women will die.
Love that Jay's shirt didn't change from the intro
"I hope we don't suddenly change shirts!"
*Jay is wearing the exact same shirt*
I first watched your reactions to ST episode 4, dear Billy and absolutely back tracked and subscribed to watch all of your reactions to it. Im so glad you are watching this, and oh dear gawd I fell in love with your reaction, especially the birth scene. You are now, one of my favourite reactor teams and I adore you both. Thank you.
So glad you decided to add these to the channel. Thank you
The Gold Cloak memes will never get old for me! 😂😆
Im so glad you are doing these on here now because now you will get included in those multi edits like J2O and it really isn’t the same without you guys in those
Yes!! I’ve been waiting for this! I wasn’t totally sure you guys would react to it
SO happy that you're uploading these reaction videos to RUclips.
I enjoy your reaction videos so much and have been really looking forward to this series reactions, and I appreciate your initial apprehension to upload due to fear of potential copyright strikes.
Really hope you have no issues going forward.
Love these vids, keep up the great work you two.
Bout muthufukin time! Let's go boys 🔥🔥🔥
Glad you made the decision to put this on YT
I'm so happy you guys decided to put this up! Love you guys :D
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO RUclips!!!
I've had an emergency C-section and was woken up with no pain meds given to me 😬 got an infection because they had no time to prep before cutting me open. I definitely cringed and felt ill watching this.
I'm sorry that happened to you
I hope you're better now
@@rockyseverino9230 Thank you! I am. That was 11 years ago when my daughter was born.
@@janel1386 it's a relief to hear your daughter was also ok. I didn't want to be rude and ask.
@@rockyseverino9230 Yes. She was saved just in time.
I am not a woman so I definitely can't properly empathize with this, and I do feel bad for anyone that this hit too close to home for. That said I think it was a good thing in some ways because it made a lot of people, especially men, consider things about pregnancy and the nature of it they probably hadn't before, especially men without children. While some sensitivity and delicacy and respect is needed with things like this, I think too often these subjects are avoided entirely by media, and that has created its own problems in society and culture.
I just want to give Jay some hugs. *huggles*
So glad you guys are doing reactions for this show! Love the show and your channel 👏
"If you've played the Doctor, you'll be a terrifying villain." Oh God, how scary would Jodie Whittaker be in a villainous role?
I think you guys took Aegon’s vision too literal. It doesn’t say “hey, a Targ has to literally be the one to defeat them.” It simply says a Targ has to unite the realm to defeat them. Which is exactly what happened. Jon, a Targ, got the North, Wildlings, and Dany to help. Arya would not have been able to kill him without all of them.
And they also guarded the secret of valyrian steel working against WW.
Please don't reference that rubbish as if it had anything to do with G R R Martin's vision.
@@30noir What are you talking about? They said Aegon’s vision changed the original show. I simply showed that it didn’t. I didn’t say a word about “George’s vision.” Or his non-existent books that will never come.
While we’re at it, George himself said he wanted to make sure that the canons between all GOT shows stay consistent. He worked with this show, therefore its canon is consistent with the original SHOW.
@@fotsnacks8705 The show is ass.
@@fotsnacks8705 nah, if certain leaks are to be believed, HOTD is going to distance itself pretty clearly from Season 8 and cling a lot closer to the actual lore of the books, and some people suspect its going to set up Jon to be the actual Prince that was Promised in his standalone show and end up defeating the Great Other or something in the true Long Night, and what we got in Season 8 will be written off as the first wave or something. which honestly would be fantastic, the only other way id have them do it is to just de-canonize season 8 altogether and chalk it up as a lost cause, and go forward from there.
You know, I was really craving a little Paul Bettany grade Chauceresque Heralding in this. Would have been amazing!
Jay, in reference to the 'silver-hair' line in the brothel: "No, that's a Lannister thing."
Me, looking sideways: "You know the Targaryens are like the Habsburgs, right?
Yay! So happy you’re putting these on RUclips!
The thing to know about what happened with Queen Aemma…THAT is what our own ancestors went through, and women are still going through it today.
Truthfully it was EXTREMELY rare to do a c section before the modern era. I looked it up and medieval midwives were way more concerned about the life of the mother over the baby. When it became possible they would actually take the baby out bit by bit to save the mom when it became clear the baby was going to kill her,
I loved your reaction and especially how sensitive you guys are with regard to the birth scene. I had the luxury of a c section with a functioning epidural and full knowledge and consent as to what was happening. The queen did not. I understand not having modern pain medicine in Westeros, but couldn't they have just knocked her out? And at the very least explained the situation to her? Her confusion followed by fear and panic feels like a violation. Given that Jay is looking to start a family, I completely understand why it's so difficult to watch.
Overall I've enjoyed both episodes a lot. I think the show benefits from GRRM's direct involvement, as well as being able to take from a story that is fully complete at this point. Looking forward to your reaction to episode 2!
They gave her as much milk of the poppy as they safely could if they gave her any more it would start to affect the baby. Sure, they probably could have physically knocked her out like.... hitting her on the head hard enough to make her loose consciousness... But they couldn't have done anything with medicine, from what I can tell. I think she was also SO confused because of the amount of milk of the poppy they had given her which is technically like opium, I think. But she was probably also exhausted from the pain which would have also made her a bit confused.
I loved seeing their reaction, too - that scene really captured the terror of birth and I'm glad it doesn't only hit hard for people that went through it. And yes, I had my own (stillbirth) c-section under a full anesthesia and in her place I'd have preferred them to just knock me out no matter how before doing that whole thing fully conscious and no warning. Big kudos for the actress here, too!
Gives me the creeps that Daemon( Matt Smith) sounds like Ramsey Bolton at times😳
Totally understnd yalls concerns but I will say this reaction was some of yalls best content imo. Really emotional but also funny at the same time
I definitely subscribed because you are genuine and vulnerable people
It is hinted that Valyrias Doom was caused by the Faceless Men when they assassinated the wizards who kept the giant vulcanos there at bay with blood and fire magic. Thats likely why they captured so many slaves, they used them for blood magic to tame the vulcanos. They also supposedly created a bunch of monsters by twisting humans and animals alike with blood magic. Thats how dragons supposedly came to be which is why there are no other beasts in nature that are on the same level as dragons.
Though we know that the Valyrians themselves did not create dragons, not in Valyria, because in the far east there were dragons long before the Long Night, which was before the rise of the Valyrian Empire.
But the forefathers of the Valyrians likely created the dragons, and they used them to build Asshai and the Five Fortresses in the far east. Dany sees a vision of these forefathers, four of them who look like Targaryens, like all Valyrians, but only one of them has purple eyes, they all have eye colors that match the associated gem colors dedicated to each far eastern Emperor, showing that these are indeed the forefathers of the Valyrians.
Game of Thrones could have included these deep running ancient conspiracies and prophecies. They should have added three more seasons with 10 episodes each where they actually went and explored this like the books seems to be doing. In the books Dany is not going to Westeros, shes going to Asshai where all the secrets will be revealed as foretold by Quaithe.
Imagine how cool that would have been, to go deep into the mythology of this world. But instead we get bland assassin Arya stabs the Night King and then everything is over. No prophecies of the Last Hero, Azor Ahai, the Bloodstone Emperor, Jon the Night King, none of it. It's a damn shame.
I can't wait for the last 2 books to finally be done, by George or his trusted companions. Then maybe someone can pick up the show again to redo the whole thing fully planned to the end where no major characters and plotlines will be cut just to remove the fantasy from the early seasons. And give the Valyrians their purple to blue-ish eyes damnit.
“i don’t like it when they kill the dragons.” oh boy… oh boy oh boy
So so so so so happy you guys have managed to get this on here, thank you guys for trying so hard to work around the copyright lords 🤣🙏🙏 Love your reactions as always
Huh, fun fact. I actually had a conversation just last week whether a lightsaber could kill Whitewalkers.
I'm glad you guys uploaded this reaction
“I am not having fun” really sums it up 😂 21:58
Glad you are going to put these on RUclips
It’s so good being back in this world. I also forgot how bloody it was. I almost couldn’t watch the birth scene. I laughed a little too hard at he’s right behind me isn’t he?
The gold cloaks song😂👌
I just discovered you guys and I REALLY love this reaction. I've watched quite a few reactions to this show already and yours is one of the best. I really hope you continue to react to this show. I'll watch every one.
Can't remember how I found this channel (it's been a while now!) but it's just a joy every time!
First time commenter full time pReview'd fan.... when will you do a D&D game? I would totatally podcast, subscribe to you both. I find you both a delight, a highlight of my week that good reactions, to good content and would love ... ABSOLUTELY love to see some Original Content!!!! You both are amazing and so fun to watch. Makes me think of my brother and I hanging out shooting said "POOP" EMOJIS. So thank you. You are not alone, but you are magic.
Jay & Adam let me honest with y’all…
I have been a long time Peach and just recently joined the Orchard on Discord & Twitch… I have wanted to make joining the Patreon work for a while and when HotD was starting I made it work. I was not disappointed with watch along (poor Jay my heart hurt for you). BUT I totally understand why y’all hesitated to put it on the RUclips & I’m not at all upset about finally joining Patreon and would never think you would bait & switch us Peaches. * I’m a Peach because of how honest & genuine both you guys and your reactions are.
Much Love from Canada 🇨🇦 🍑
(CdnPeach/CanadianPeach)
I was watching this episode as you guys, covering my eyes the whole time 🙈🙈🙈
Love that you guys put the episode up on RUclips! I'm a Patreon member but it's great when more people can watch your stuff.
Also, WB has gotten new leadership recently, what with being bought out by Discovery. They got a new CEO and everything.
I'm wondering if we might eventually see a change in policy for some of this stuff.
Sadly funny that as you say this WB is literally striking channels for tons of old reactions. Not claims. Full strikes. Literally killing channels completely. Yay new leadership!
@@storyofm6820 Ohh... Great.
Forget I said anything.
Hopefully it will all work out. I know Omni put out a post yesterday asking his viewers to check out some of his other outlets in case his You Tube channel disappeared overnight. Fingers crossed WB realizes someday that all of this only helps them in the long run.
I mean they released the first episode for free on the official youtube channel yesterday. I think things will be okay.
You're a good friend Adam, kudos to you
"We can't lose this." -Jay
"We can't lose you. ❤️" -me and the peaches
Two things. First: hugs. Your capacity to feel is my favourite thing about you guys. But second, I feel really strongly they HAD to include the visceral nature of the birthing scene. It’s brutal, and horrid, and too true to even imagine. I never want to see it again, but I think it was deeply, painfully moving in its depiction. The juxtaposition with “playing” (that seems like a…. shot game? 😳) at war, and the traumatic reality of womanhood in feudal times is still a little closer to home than I’d like.
"Podrick the Dragonslayer." Dragons weren't the only thing he was slaying if you know what I mean.
And the world collectively googled Massie William's age...
And we're still deeply uncomfortable
@@Squeekysquid oh you're right
But yeah, you just can't introduce me to like an eleven year old and think that's gonna be ok
She'll always be a kid in my eyes
Hottest (and biggest) of the D's
@@rockyseverino9230 but child Daenaerys was cool?
I know they aged her up for the show, but it wasn’t by much.
@@Drummer4President no. It wasn't cool. She was fourteen in the books.
But I hadn't known her for 8 years as a child.
So in a way it was less shocking than when a legitimately grown woman I'd known since she was eleven had a sex scene
But no, obviously that wasn't cool. Though she seemed pretty happy about it pretty quickly.
That makes it... murky.
I'm so stoked that you guys are uploading these to the tubes. ^_^
I'm not even watching the show but I'm here to support the boys. You guys are the best. ❤
dont watch don't comment
Use rope and soap.
Maybe it’s just for the algorithm 🤷♀️
I was hoping you guys weren't skipping over this. Here til the end for this.
That’s the bit Jay! I lost it. Keep rocking
So a game of thrones episode was airing on the day of my birthday and I was so excited that i had like a dinner party and everything with all of my nerdy friends....and it was the episode where the Night King killed the dragon with an ice spear. I was so sad.
I’m so glad you decided to show these on RUclips. I’ve seen other reaction channels do so and their reactions don’t seem to be taken down. So if the powers that be decide to go after you you have a real case of bias against you.
I also hope you bring your reactions to ring of power to RUclips.
"I Love a good spread." -Jay's thoughts on strip clubs.
The dance of dragons is my favorite story from the original show and books. IM READY FOR THIS
SOOOO glad to see you guys doing this!!
Thank goodness you posted that after reaction intro. It felt good knowing you had both (although in this instance, Jay, especially) had recovered from the trauma of HotD(ragon). Now I can look pleasantly look forward to GARDEN SCENE, GARDEN SCENE, GARDEN SCENE! Seen episode 2, you know what I mean. I can already imagine Adam going NOOOOOOO! And Jay going That's not right. I do NOT think so.
Also, several hours later the video is still up so yay for avoiding striking out. After all, no one wants to see a homeless Jay and Adam, carrying a placard saying we will react, review and riff for food. No! No one wants that. 😱😱😭😭
I was expecting y’all to say, ‘we looked at all the other reaction channels and saw it got a shit ton of views 😂’ but i’m happy y’all are doing reactions to this
I don't know if it was my comment or not that led you to drop the highlights, but good call! I already did the watch-alongs on Patreon, but of course I'm going to watch this and give it a thumbs up! Thanks guys! And I hope this helps drive channel growth for you.
Edit: So, I know you're nervous about Rings of Power, but the other channels are posting and seem to be doing fine. Maybe you'd be fine with posting those as well? 🤷♂️