Terminator: Dark Fate ANGRY RANT! - [Spoilers Discussion!]

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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    AngryJoe goes on an Angry Rant about the shocking Beginning of the Terminator Dark Fate film as well as where the state of the franchise is and where it could go from here. Plus we discuss all the plot holes, stupid parts and crazy moments from the film in our spoilers discussion!
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  • @AngryJoeShow
    @AngryJoeShow  4 года назад +1527

    And a 3/10.

    • @thisistheplan414
      @thisistheplan414 4 года назад +15

      hey joseph!

    • @kaiju-dr5qn
      @kaiju-dr5qn 4 года назад +18

      I've been telling them. Guess they really don't listen to you at all.

    • @JohnDoe-fi9yh
      @JohnDoe-fi9yh 4 года назад +33

      Gotta cover all bases because he always changes his mind.

    • @traditionalartist7184
      @traditionalartist7184 4 года назад +16

      Lmfao 💯

    • @succulentcranberry
      @succulentcranberry 4 года назад +74

      Too late you also rated it 8/10. You are cursed for life now. Btw you give that rating WAY too much

  • @DrViperVideos
    @DrViperVideos 4 года назад +2178

    John connor: i cant believe what they did to my character!
    Luke skywalker: first time?

    • @illusionlb
      @illusionlb 4 года назад +135

      @Diarmid O'Connor /cry

    • @JuwanBuchanan
      @JuwanBuchanan 4 года назад +113

      @Diarmid O'Connor Cry more

    • @fiscer247
      @fiscer247 4 года назад +94

      @Diarmid O'Connor Poor baby.

    • @zzygyy
      @zzygyy 4 года назад +12

      😂

    • @adren42
      @adren42 4 года назад +86

      Dude Luke Skywalker was a badass, and now they made him into a bitch.

  • @Milios666
    @Milios666 4 года назад +337

    By erasing John, they also erased Sarah's importance. Also, erased is the message of the original film of motherhood and hope.

    • @Milios666
      @Milios666 4 года назад +12

      @falchulk But her baby is not humanity's savior, she is.

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 4 года назад +8

      This film is about individuality which is a stupid reason because she didnt earned it that much all she did was giving em hope in one scene but thats not enough a leader does leader things which is why John in T2 came up with the idea on destroying Skynet before inception in their timeline.

    • @fernicusmaximus9282
      @fernicusmaximus9282 4 года назад +4

      Technically Edward furlong is half Mexican.

    • @Khronos12
      @Khronos12 4 года назад +1

      Dragonfury3000 well I mean, John Conner has the same process happen to him, well he would have, but he got killed. So in reality, neither of them earned it.

    • @lamNoJedi
      @lamNoJedi 4 года назад +1

      Point the movie is trying to make is that judgement day is inevitable. John connor isnt important anymore because the actions in t2 stopped that version of judgement day. Man will continue to create an artificial intelligence that will eventually become judgement day and the human race will always win in the end. "Human created it, humans can destroy it" Grace made it clear in the movie. John dies in the beginning because he is no longer important. They destroyed the arm and chip in t2. No more skynet = no more john Conner leader of resistance caus it never happened.

  • @Messiah114
    @Messiah114 4 года назад +597

    This movie shouldn't exist.
    Time to go back to the past and stop this.

    • @Mr.Spanglish_94
      @Mr.Spanglish_94 4 года назад +24

      I’ll be back.
      [Mission Acquire]
      TERMINATE THE FILM BEFORE POST PRODUCTION.

    • @walkers198
      @walkers198 4 года назад +4

      Newsflash: He won’t be back...

    • @Tidushii
      @Tidushii 4 года назад +11

      There's no genders but what we make for ourselves." -Dani Ramos, Feminator: Dark Poop

    • @TheGUFGamer
      @TheGUFGamer 4 года назад +2

      Ducktapes a knife to a roomba, tosses it into a hotub, and pours Chernobly over the control panel....... Welp lets see how this goes

    • @sagadegeminis4869
      @sagadegeminis4869 4 года назад

      😂😂😂🌛

  • @digitalkid5623
    @digitalkid5623 4 года назад +352

    Kyle Reese died for nothing. Thank you Cameron.

    • @danskyl7279
      @danskyl7279 4 года назад +59

      Uncle Bob also died for nothing.

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 4 года назад +74

      Miles Dison also died for nothing in T2,remember he sacrificed himself to prevent Skynet.

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 4 года назад +9

      Wasn't Cameron just one of FIVE writers?

    • @succulentcranberry
      @succulentcranberry 4 года назад +15

      Kyle Reese at least had sex before he died. How many other men could say that??

    • @mattragusa210
      @mattragusa210 4 года назад +1

      @@doublep1980 And they did. Skynet was wiped from existence. How is that hard for you people to understand?1

  • @extrasalt9053
    @extrasalt9053 4 года назад +248

    See you in 5 to 10 years when they try to unsuccessfully reboot Terminator again.

    • @blootube97
      @blootube97 4 года назад

      At this rate, they’ll maybe even do a REMAKE and start from scratch 👀

    • @shanenonwolfe4109
      @shanenonwolfe4109 4 года назад +1

      @@blootube97 wouldn't be surprised if they get the Rock or someone to the new t800

    • @christianguerrero70
      @christianguerrero70 4 года назад +2

      Wait Joe gave genesis an 8? Wait he even says this is better than every movie after T2... Lol okay honestly they need to have alex front and center for these movie discussions cause joe is out of his element.

    • @succulentcranberry
      @succulentcranberry 4 года назад

      Don't you mean when the suicide bombers actually turned good and killed some real evil people for once?

    • @306oldboyful
      @306oldboyful 4 года назад

      Probably next year the way they pump this shit out

  • @Moonhermit2
    @Moonhermit2 4 года назад +122

    Two ironies: They made a token gender switch and sitting right there is Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor, one of THE earliest badass female characters I can remember. Like we've already done this - and properly too. Second: They mock "your womb is important, not you', but that is precisely part of what made T2 great - Mother's tenacious defense of what comes out of that womb - her son. In comparison, New Female Lead Character has no emotional hook with the audience. She wants to be ME - NOW - not live in a mineshaft - end of story. Well that story isn't remotely in the same league as Sarah Connor's story.

    • @Ganon999
      @Ganon999 4 года назад +6

      Very well put my friend. I personally wish that the order of the films would have just been T1, T2, Terminator Salvation, then another future war film that continued the battle against Skynet with an absolute ending with some epic final battle against all of the remaining humans Vs all of Skynet lol I believe that would have been perfect 😂

    • @deeplaysgaming4754
      @deeplaysgaming4754 4 года назад +5

      @@Ganon999 i know right ellen ripley is my hero as well as sarah connor, cant see anyone male or femake in these roles, i do however wonder what it woulda been like if sigorgney was sarah and linda was ripley!

    • @semerahpadi4484
      @semerahpadi4484 3 года назад +1

      @@deeplaysgaming4754 both of them can switched roles and i believe they are still believable compared to these current fake female shove-on-our-face fighter.

    • @levisamom5069
      @levisamom5069 Год назад +1

      Ikr... i hate these woke stuff like "there's no strong female representation in the past"...i mean just look at characters from the 80s and 90s like sarah connar, ellen ripley, kill bill, lara croft all of em just got overlooked by the hypocritical woke feminists who dont actually care about actual female characters but just want whatever the men were having

  • @stepkickking9868
    @stepkickking9868 4 года назад +952

    “I saved 3 Billion lives, but I couldn’t save my son. Now I, am Terminated.”
    Whoever wrote that line should be thrown into a pit of lava

    • @patrickrkruger
      @patrickrkruger 4 года назад +54

      Judging by the dialog in Titanic, probably James Cameron

    • @dushikorsou1
      @dushikorsou1 4 года назад +120

      @@patrickrkruger "who gave you permission to look at my private parts?" "Where are the prisoners? They are called detainees" like who wrote that and thought yeah that is oscar worthy.

    • @Digger318
      @Digger318 4 года назад +2

      ew

    • @giorgiomx
      @giorgiomx 4 года назад

      Just like 80s movies, right?

    • @jpkurihara
      @jpkurihara 4 года назад +6

      StepKickKing What the fuck, is this Terminator or a Shakespeare play?

  • @chaoseater69
    @chaoseater69 4 года назад +89

    The most impressive thing about this movie was that a T-101 managed to grow a conscience even though the default setting was supposed to be "read-only." Seems like poor design.

    • @MPT1983
      @MPT1983 4 года назад +4

      Exactly

    • @CipherzOrion
      @CipherzOrion 4 года назад +3

      ANGRYJOE needs to see this and other like completely obvious failures

    • @pacemsilk8561
      @pacemsilk8561 4 года назад +4

      LMAO!!!
      No wonder Skynet failed...The T-1000 would wreck Skynet in a few days.

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 4 года назад

      Well that particular 800 could had beem set to read & write. It wasn't explained.

    • @sean8102
      @sean8102 4 года назад +11

      And I like how he casually walks away after shooting a child in the chest with a shotgun at point blank range and no one dose anything to stop him or pursue him. No cops or anything lol. He just somehow ended up being able to move into a nice little house in the woods and then this robots feels "guilt" for murdering a kid.

  • @RogueFox2185
    @RogueFox2185 4 года назад +93

    That opening seriously hurt when I saw it, that felt like a knife to the gut and it pissed me off for the rest of the movie.

  • @TekkLuthor
    @TekkLuthor 4 года назад +226

    Joe: Skynet is gone. It is legion
    Me: turns off video

    • @Arcexey
      @Arcexey 4 года назад

      Tekk Luthor what does that mean it is legion?

    • @Lirka_906
      @Lirka_906 4 года назад +26

      @@Arcexey It means that they stopped Skynet from happening in T2. But now they made ANOTHER AI that is going to destroy humanity named Legion. AKA they stopped Skynet, but it was all for nothing.
      It's like Jurassic Park, but now there is a NEW park named Jurassic World.
      Same with First Order.
      The same, but different...but still the exact same damn thing.

    • @Arcexey
      @Arcexey 4 года назад +5

      @@Lirka_906 oh god that is even worse than I thought. definitely not seeing this garbage

    • @brianboardwell1986
      @brianboardwell1986 4 года назад +2

      Lirka Legion is the most unoriginal name, too. Guaranteed the writers came up with that right away with no thought afterwards.

    • @Lirka_906
      @Lirka_906 4 года назад

      Brian Boardwell yeah, even Genisys was at least original.

  • @jameshenry3624
    @jameshenry3624 4 года назад +218

    They kill John Connor , I will never watch this movie

    • @DawnPatrol21
      @DawnPatrol21 4 года назад +6

      Same bro, same. Total BS.

    • @thunderwolf207summit5
      @thunderwolf207summit5 4 года назад +11

      It is why i'm watching this video, cause i don't care anymore.

    • @DarthMacchio
      @DarthMacchio 4 года назад +5

      Yes, please spare yourself, it's disturbing what they did. Tim Miller and Ruin Johnson are both sociopaths.

    • @OGgluttonoustoad
      @OGgluttonoustoad 4 года назад +3

      Y'all are super fucking dramatic lol

    • @alexl.4362
      @alexl.4362 4 года назад +2

      @@DarthMacchio Yes they are.

  • @andresgonzalez5676
    @andresgonzalez5676 4 года назад +134

    19:00
    The moment Joe regrets giving the movie a high rating

    • @olah547
      @olah547 4 года назад +1

      He said 3/10 for fans 8/10 when brains turn off.

    • @nixsis5281
      @nixsis5281 4 года назад +1

      @@olah547 He said 3 out 10 to keep subs and avoid dislikes.

    • @aldovk6681
      @aldovk6681 4 года назад

      He is better reviewing games than movies

    • @olah547
      @olah547 4 года назад

      @@nixsis5281 you saying that genesys is better?

    • @nixsis5281
      @nixsis5281 4 года назад

      @@olah547 Did you hear me say that? No!

  • @thea-ronator57
    @thea-ronator57 4 года назад +169

    I thought we made it pretty clear to Hollywood that we didn’t like the beginning of Alien 3???

    • @edwinplayer
      @edwinplayer 4 года назад +1

      then they'll retcon Alien 3 and up and make Aliens Dark Fate that'll make Alien 1 and 2 pointless. seriously, i feel people complaining about T3 and up is what brought Dark Fate into creation.

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 4 года назад +9

      @@edwinplayer The only thing that brought this into creation is the studios growing incompetency. They made mediocre sequels to one of the best action movies ever and they got the reception they deserve.

    • @retrotony4119
      @retrotony4119 4 года назад +5

      Cameron was pissed at Alien 3, so what does he do in Dark Fate? Idiot.

    • @succulentcranberry
      @succulentcranberry 4 года назад +8

      HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?!?!

    • @masamune2984
      @masamune2984 4 года назад +1

      I actually feel like these are VERY different scenarios. Hicks and Newt were (amazing) side-characters, but NEVER the core of the franchise story. I actually loved the shocker of their deaths, as it was brutally realistic, even though I absolutely loved and missed their characters, it felt like an actual plot development, instead of a “how can we make a sequel?” Scenario, like Dark Fate does. In this franchise though, John Conner has ALWAYS been the absolute key to the series, even if Sarah is technically the protagonist.
      So basically, I agree with your point, even if I view it a different way.
      F*** this film.

  • @InvisibleMan95
    @InvisibleMan95 4 года назад +585

    2019 is the year of ruined franchises.

  • @clucka34
    @clucka34 4 года назад +71

    I love how Alex offhandedly came up with a far superior plot for this movie.

    • @nomadjoker2760
      @nomadjoker2760 3 года назад +10

      I agree with Alex over joe most of the time

    • @matthewjarek3026
      @matthewjarek3026 10 месяцев назад

      And it's surreal because Alex's plot is EXACTLY like my idea for a Terminator movie.

  • @Wiiranger87
    @Wiiranger87 4 года назад +80

    anyone remember that really old video where its an "alternate" ending to T2 and its Anrold sinking and rather than a thumbs up it was a middle finger? cause when I found out about the beginning of Dark Fate. I just thought of that vid lol.

  • @MegaTuber86
    @MegaTuber86 4 года назад +61

    The mental gymnastics you went through to come up with an 8 score for this pile of crap film must have been exhausting....

  • @JohnyG29
    @JohnyG29 4 года назад +47

    If John Connor dies in this film it makes no sense and I won't watch it. Therefore, in my universe, there are still only two Terminator films - T1 and T2.

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 4 года назад +5

      I can appreciate John being replaced if Judgment Day gets pushed back to the 2040s, but he'd only be like 40 in 2020. John Connor should have been the mentor character passing along his own torch.

    • @crashingcoyote
      @crashingcoyote 4 года назад

      how so idiotic and closed minded you are

    • @K4L3P
      @K4L3P 4 года назад +2

      @@crashingcoyote no he just knows how objectively garbage this film is sheep

    • @DrSmile81
      @DrSmile81 4 года назад

      In T3 the Terminator told John that he killed him. So its all just a plot about Timetravel and possible Effects of it. Every Terminator had another Actor playing John. The only shitty thing is the showing of the killing of john. Just like it was edited on a fullrush in 2min. And the execution also sucked cause instead of just blowing johns head off with his shotgun he shoots him in his chest so they can still have a joker - yeah john survived this attack in the next movie cause nobody wanna see the politic motivated "female hero" and "legion" shit.

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 4 года назад +1

      @@DrSmile81 I don't count T3 as a proper Terminator movie either.

  • @angrygingadude5594
    @angrygingadude5594 4 года назад +46

    Joe should listen to Alex more during trailer reactions that way he wont get too hyped

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 4 года назад +3

      Anybody who had 2 braincells left,realised that this movie would be a stinker,after the first trailer dropped.

    • @SamuraiOniReaver
      @SamuraiOniReaver 4 года назад +4

      That's true, I've noticed in alot of the trailer reactions that Joe gets way too over hyped about the trailer and Alex is just chill

    • @jjmartinezartist
      @jjmartinezartist 4 года назад

      They would never be hyped for anything again, Alex is a hater

  • @maxacorn
    @maxacorn 4 года назад +80

    a movie where they both leech off of and ignore past movies to make their movie "better" and kills off a popular/important character to see up a new character in the same role but no where near as cool/interesting?
    where have i seen this before? hmmmm.

    • @z3poXP
      @z3poXP 4 года назад +15

      Rey: **Force glare intensifies**

    • @deathsdollar2606
      @deathsdollar2606 4 года назад +3

      its gotten to the point that this is every franchise anymore and marvel movies are next im afraid!

    • @KidCas1031
      @KidCas1031 4 года назад +4

      Deaths Dollar For sure because Phase 4 is the SJW phase. Disney hooked us and now they are going to start pushing their SJW shit. Falcon & The Winter Soldier is going to focus on racism and America not wanting a black Captain America. Like dude we voted for a black president TWICE! The fuck out of here with that shit. I was so excited for that show till they said that.

    • @draxrdax7321
      @draxrdax7321 4 года назад

      That's because the woke "creators" can't do anything on their own, they always stick their garbage to already established characters and then they try to kill them because theirs can't succeed otherwise. They killed Star Wars and all its important characters to the point that real fans don't even consider their movies being canon. Remember this movie's director started flaming their "misogynistic and bigoted" audience 3 months ago, before the movie was done even filming for the movie's future failure. The damage control started back then and they knew it will fail, but they couldn't stop pushing their woke garbage.

    • @deathsdollar2606
      @deathsdollar2606 4 года назад +1

      @@KidCas1031 I just wonder why that if sjws are a such a small group of people who dont even watch these movies anyway who the hell is giving them all the power to make all our movies into garbage!? Is it crab people!?

  • @chileanguyfleegman
    @chileanguyfleegman 4 года назад +23

    "Let the past die, kill it if you have to." rip Terminator.

    • @dillonn3918
      @dillonn3918 4 года назад

      Chilean Guy #6 we should all just accept that all our favourite 80s and 90s franchises are dead and we should just imagine that modern movies don’t exist at this point

    • @Lightguardian_HOH
      @Lightguardian_HOH 4 года назад

      @@dillonn3918 Or stop being hypocritical assholes and listen to your own opinion, instead of following what everyone says about the movies they watch. It's your opinion and its your choice. If people hate it, your friends hate it ok that's fine but that doesn't mean you can't love it.

    • @Eckef
      @Eckef 4 года назад

      Kingdom of Gamers I mean, if you love a shit movie then you do you. Guilty pleasure movies are a thing

    • @thepsychicspoon5984
      @thepsychicspoon5984 4 года назад

      @@Lightguardian_HOH so instead we should just follow yours and love everything that comes out of hollywwod cause "somebody worked HARD on it".

  • @zachk5249
    @zachk5249 4 года назад +34

    21:19 "It's not a good movie." 8/10

    • @Capthowdy098
      @Capthowdy098 4 года назад +1

      Following that thread of though Joker got a 9/10 so it makes that movie "ok" 🤣🤣

  • @henkman00
    @henkman00 4 года назад +54

    like Jake Skywalker before him, John Goner died

    • @JurgenCutters
      @JurgenCutters 4 года назад +4

      Yes, now Share Connor is sad

    • @josephroszell
      @josephroszell 4 года назад

      No you can't be uncle bob that's impossible!!

  • @lenajohnson6179
    @lenajohnson6179 4 года назад +16

    Well we all know the real sequel to T2 is the Sarah Connor Chronicles anyway

  • @DwayneHicks426
    @DwayneHicks426 4 года назад +29

    The Terminator
    Terminator 2: Judgement Day
    Terminator 2: Battle across time
    Terminator: Salvation.
    There. The only movies.

    • @Vagmodrising
      @Vagmodrising 4 года назад +1

      I love salvation but what is battle acros time?

    • @DwayneHicks426
      @DwayneHicks426 4 года назад +4

      @@Vagmodrising the one from Universal studios.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 4 года назад +1

      I here the terminator resistance game is actually pretty good and it sets up the first two movies

    • @DwayneHicks426
      @DwayneHicks426 4 года назад +1

      @@delta2372
      Yup, there's early release gameplay. It has it's small flaws but makes up for it with gameplay, story and graphics.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 4 года назад

      @@DwayneHicks426 I thought graphics was one of the games flaws

  • @NerdBoy-vg4pg
    @NerdBoy-vg4pg 4 года назад +79

    2019 is when franchises get burned to flames

    • @wokepointz7228
      @wokepointz7228 4 года назад +5

      Nerd Boy2002 except avengers endgame

    • @JIG-vn8sc
      @JIG-vn8sc 4 года назад +11

      @@wokepointz7228 MCU is going to go up in flames soon... give it time

    • @Tidushii
      @Tidushii 4 года назад +3

      There's no genders but what we make for ourselves." -Dani Ramos, Feminator: Dark Poop

    • @whodatninja439
      @whodatninja439 4 года назад

      All there's left is star wars

    • @TheN1ghtwalker
      @TheN1ghtwalker 4 года назад

      @@wokepointz7228 That one was the first

  • @midnightgrahmmer
    @midnightgrahmmer 4 года назад +5

    Did they ever fully explain who actually tattooed Carl's coordinates on grace or had that knowledge in the future ?

    • @jerome1lm
      @jerome1lm Год назад +1

      It must have been Dani. She was the commander and knew where Karl lives.

  • @derick_james
    @derick_james 4 года назад +50

    When they shot John, I just stand up, and walk away from the theater

    • @fgclash454
      @fgclash454 4 года назад +6

      Derick James waste your money dumbass

    • @EurynomeEclipse13
      @EurynomeEclipse13 4 года назад +3

      Fgc Lash I’m gonna waste you

    • @eternalfps3124
      @eternalfps3124 4 года назад +20

      @@fgclash454 If you leave the movie theater within the first 30mins you can get a refund.

    • @cashuflakbreakdancer
      @cashuflakbreakdancer 4 года назад +2

      @@fgclash454 seeing this movie in theaters was already a waste of money

    • @shanenephilim2727
      @shanenephilim2727 4 года назад

      So you didn't know already lol sucks to be you

  • @FunZies.
    @FunZies. 4 года назад +14

    Having the girl be the 'Dyson' of the world to found Legion sounds like a much better idea. That would have been _something,_ at least.

    • @purpleprinc3
      @purpleprinc3 4 года назад

      Well girls are very good vacuum cleaners ;)

    • @RyrienaHoustonBorn
      @RyrienaHoustonBorn 4 года назад

      Or had Michel Dyson Jr be the creator of this new AI named Legion which is a even better Idea. Also have his wife be the military contact for Sarah. In my rewrite they remade Skynet but she began to learn at a rate not yet seen by others and John being the president asks to speak to Skynet after learning they remade it. They form a bond of some short like sister and brother bond and Sky net beings to understand more humans emotions. Then Legion is developed by another corporation by Michel and Danni’s character and shit happens. Sky net or Skylar even becomes a hybrid in my version which takes it further and tries to at least be in line with the lore of the show and brings in some comics to it as well.

  • @i_i8924
    @i_i8924 4 года назад +9

    "Look How They Massacred My Boy"

  • @luhedi6303
    @luhedi6303 4 года назад +68

    Joe is trying to like this movie and tries to make his own head canon.

  • @Dragonfury3000
    @Dragonfury3000 4 года назад +4

    That scene with Sarah just being depressed talking about John sitting on a log near Carl house was quite emotional. Fun fact: there's a very similar deleted scene with Sarah and Reese in the original Terminator.

  • @devouredbyzombies
    @devouredbyzombies 4 года назад +14

    They killed John because feminism.

    • @ericallen789
      @ericallen789 4 года назад +2

      and then Dani's brother died cuz he was a dude

  • @quiett6191
    @quiett6191 4 года назад +41

    why send single Terminator all throughout the 90s when Skynet could've just send em together to work as a squad.
    and
    why would a terminator feel "bad" about what it did and went on to have a family. I guess when Kyle told Sarah that terminators are merciless, unfeeling, unstoppable killing machines, he was lying.

    • @danskyl7279
      @danskyl7279 4 года назад +6

      Haha, yep.. Kyle was a lying maroon. And he died for nothing.

    • @Andy_Paris
      @Andy_Paris 4 года назад +9

      In Terminator 1 Kyle said that they did already win the war, in the future, it wasn't necessary for Skynet to mess with time travel during the war because it was using resources to fight the human resistance.
      Skynet sent a Terminator back in time as a last ditch effort to win because by that time, the human resistance had already won, thanks to John Connor. Skynet actually inadvertently created John Connor as a warlord because they introduced a Terminator to Sarah Connor, giving her knowledge due to Kyle's time travel, thus concluding in Terminator 2.
      TL;DR The future resistance won the war. Skynet only sent one Terminator because it was a last ditch, desperate attempt to assassinate the future leader, only to end up creating him. A paradox, which is why the first two films was so brilliant.

    • @Andy_Paris
      @Andy_Paris 4 года назад +8

      And a Terminator shouldn't feel anything, that was just dumb to put in the movie. I saw an AD on Twitter saying "even a machine can become human." They probably thought it was a good idea to do that. T2 did that way better by having uncle Bob sacrifice himself. In T1 Kyle said Terminators have no concept of feelings.

    • @FlyingwithFire
      @FlyingwithFire 4 года назад

      also surely the resistance would notice all the dates the terminators where sent too
      and send resistance soliders after them

    • @quiett6191
      @quiett6191 4 года назад +4

      @@Andy_Paris wasn't that whole learning to become human thing in T2 possible because they flipped a switch in It's head?

  • @mh4410
    @mh4410 4 года назад +10

    There are a few moments in life where a man is allowed to cry: 1) Birth of his first born. 2) Getting divorce raped in court 3) Death of a best friend (franchises count). Somebody please hold me.

    • @blindeagleace3629
      @blindeagleace3629 4 года назад

      What the hell is divorce raped?
      You guys need therapy.

    • @creamywrath2655
      @creamywrath2655 4 года назад +1

      @@blindeagleace3629 you never been divorced raped, its awful. Stop hating on a victem

    • @dannyjack659
      @dannyjack659 4 года назад

      You have to buy me dinner first before I start holding you...

  • @MisfitPhobia
    @MisfitPhobia 4 года назад +25

    I didn’t like they killed off John Conner.

    • @BeSkeptical851
      @BeSkeptical851 4 года назад +1

      They didn't even have to do that. It would have been cool if Ed Furlong and Linda Hamilton came back as ass kicking mother and son. They could explain that they did stop the Skynet timeline but now they've discovered that other timelines have emerged from it. They could have told the same story.

    • @Jebu911
      @Jebu911 4 года назад

      @@BeSkeptical851 True alltho I really liked the scene because of the good CGI and that terminator finally got to terminate John Connor.

    • @ScrubNigel
      @ScrubNigel 4 года назад +1

      @@BeSkeptical851
      Ed Furlong has been in and out of hospitals and rehab centers for years. He lost custody of his baby son, who was allegedly tested positive of cocaine. Add to that his cases of close relationship violence. He's not a sane person.

    • @ScrubNigel
      @ScrubNigel 4 года назад +1

      I actually didn't mind John Connor dying. They stopped Skynet in T2. His mission was over. Saying that his death made T1 and T2 pointless isn't really true in my opinion. They did everything they had to do. This is another threat, that requires new things.
      What I wasn't a big fan of is that they just did the same thing again. Another kid that is supposed to become the new big fighter of the future. I would have preferred a "smaller" movie than what we got.
      With T2 it felt so real, even though it was fake. Because they actually did a lot of the stunts. Would have loved to see more of that instead.
      That said: I still thought the movie was "good". Nothing spectacular or anything, but a fairly good time at the movies. A lot better than anything else we've gotten since T2.

    • @johnv6806
      @johnv6806 4 года назад

      @@ScrubNigel yeah? So? What actor plays on screen how they are in reality?

  • @jesuscarrillo7952
    @jesuscarrillo7952 4 года назад +18

    All that combat training and John Connor reverts to kid Gohan in the opening scene🤦🏽‍♂️
    ......someone teach these kids to dodge

    • @pacemsilk8561
      @pacemsilk8561 4 года назад

      Now, I am picturing John Connor running on that infinite road to get a Dragon Ball...

  • @CongrexesPrime
    @CongrexesPrime 4 года назад +10

    "They killed John Conor"🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am out too Joe.

  • @omegamaximus1727
    @omegamaximus1727 3 года назад +2

    I watched Terminator Dark Fate today with my dad. The things liked about the movie are the action scenes and the one thing I don’t like about the movie is that they killed John Connor.

  • @zachk5249
    @zachk5249 4 года назад +34

    20:44 This look right here proves that Joe is really reaching with his rating here, and giving his partners shit for not agreeing with him. What Alex is saying makes perfect sense, and for some reason Joe refuses to see it

    • @deathsdollar2606
      @deathsdollar2606 4 года назад +1

      I always thought Alex was his older brother

    • @ki11aqueen5
      @ki11aqueen5 4 года назад +2

      What Alex was saying didnt make no sense. Obviously Sarah knew that shooting him ANYWHERE with a pistol won't kill him. But THAT TERMINATOR KILLED HER SON! she is obviously fucking PISSED because she hasn't seen him in 30 years or so. Alex is literally throwing a random temper tantrum over this understandable scene.

  • @seinfeldx
    @seinfeldx 4 года назад +8

    22:40 - "Skynet can't control and has to ally with humans"
    You mean just like the story of Matrix.

  • @JDRoss716
    @JDRoss716 4 года назад +5

    Joe, I wish you would touch on the review boosting that is taking place on rotten tomatoes. The 4-5 star user reviews that are being posted in 1-2 minute increments by “verified” reviewers with generic names and no avatars is highly suspicious. I think the studios have found a way to game the user reviews. Either that or Tencent is trying somehow to recoup their initial 10% budget investment.

  • @treyowen9213
    @treyowen9213 4 года назад +29

    I cannot wait for the Terminator: Resistance.

    • @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701
      @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 4 года назад +3

      *Revival*
      *Return*
      *Resurrection*
      *Revenge*
      *Reloaded*
      *Requiem*
      *Rise* oh wait they already used that one.

    • @antonhanley
      @antonhanley 4 года назад +2

      Isabel Rodriguez Sjölund Revamped
      Rampancy
      Ruined
      Revengence
      Response
      Ranseed
      Reloaded
      Revelations
      Retired and Extremely Dangerous
      Red
      Reinstated
      Reinstalled
      Ready to stop makin Shitt.
      R*18
      ??!!
      Runnin our of Ideas 1/2. LMFO .

  • @zackevans5096
    @zackevans5096 4 года назад +50

    Joe: I hate this movie. It sucks!
    Alex: Yeah I agree! That one scene sucked!
    Joe: You're wrong Alex! That scene was perfect! You just haven't lost someone close!

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 4 года назад +3

      Joe was right there...

    • @selectedjustin10
      @selectedjustin10 4 года назад +5

      Democritus86 I get that, but Joe didn’t have to chew his ass out for not understanding and relating to that scene. That made the video awkward. I would’ve gotten really offended if I was Alex.

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 4 года назад +1

      @@selectedjustin10 its Alex we talking about if he cant handle a lil chewing then gtfo

    • @selectedjustin10
      @selectedjustin10 4 года назад +3

      Democritus86 It’s just unnecessary in my opinion. Lol Like... He’s human. He’s allowed to have an opinion on that scene.

    • @blurry3255
      @blurry3255 4 года назад +3

      @@selectedjustin10 and allowed to get chewed out for that opinion

  • @ExpressShirtself
    @ExpressShirtself 4 года назад +21

    *HOLLYWOKE*
    *"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, EVER, until you are progressive." - Kyle = Truth*
    *DARK FATE*
    *Just let that sink in like the new terminator's knife did in our backs.*

  • @tazgamerplays
    @tazgamerplays 4 года назад +16

    What is up with Alex's and other Joe's audio synch?

  • @DairyElemental
    @DairyElemental 4 года назад +18

    Linda Hamilton sounded like Marge Simpson's sisters. I was waiting for her to light up a smoke all movie

    • @troymcclure681
      @troymcclure681 4 года назад +6

      Tell me about it I was married to her once

    • @ericallen789
      @ericallen789 4 года назад

      ☠💀☠💀☠

    • @lonewolf604
      @lonewolf604 4 года назад +1

      @@troymcclure681 You might remember me in such cartoons as, The Simpsons

    • @johnv6806
      @johnv6806 4 года назад

      Didn't she smoke in the original movies?

  • @tobiasboon346
    @tobiasboon346 4 года назад +1

    I would really dig the "Dani Ramos is the creator of Legion" twist. The Rev-9 is actually sent from the future by a clone John Connor to prevent Judgement day.

  • @zachk5249
    @zachk5249 4 года назад +34

    24:33 Look at the disdain in his eyes when his partners give their ACTUAL rating of 5/10... It's just so strange. This is definitely the worst review you've ever done Joe, you contradicted yourself so many times, sometimes in the same sentence

    • @GigglingStoners
      @GigglingStoners 4 года назад +4

      He really is a terrible movie reviewer

    • @ericallen789
      @ericallen789 4 года назад +2

      he seems to double down on being loud to compensate for the foot he consistently puts in his mouth

    • @ericallen789
      @ericallen789 4 года назад

      @@m.a.4500 i wish it was only as annoying as 'grating'

    • @darthmalgus3043
      @darthmalgus3043 4 года назад

      User Account Then fuck off and don’t watch.

    • @ericgarcia7047
      @ericgarcia7047 4 года назад

      Darth Maggot,
      after this review maybe he will

  • @ultimatepatriot
    @ultimatepatriot 4 года назад +6

    Natalia Reyes was so annoying and RUINED the whole movie!! Almost cut the movie off several times because of her even at the end! Arnold was the only good thing about this movie!

  • @Shamall
    @Shamall 4 года назад +10

    You think this ended the franchise, I can't wait to see your reaction to the next star wars movie.

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 4 года назад

      @Joslyn Vazquez Honestly, the fact that the whole sequel trilogy will have taken place within a couple weeks at the end should piss people off more than it does.

  • @RaceProtocol
    @RaceProtocol 4 года назад +4

    I've just saw the movie. The beginning (the 1st half hour) felt like a movie version of the last of Us 2 plot.

  • @m.cproductions3671
    @m.cproductions3671 4 года назад +2

    Alex has the emotional capacity of a T-800

  • @Ghost7065
    @Ghost7065 4 года назад +21

    I completely disagree with human terminator relationship. it was literally just a woke feminist view point if you see the directions words regarding that aspect of the film. it's plain stupidity.
    also the t 800 needs to be reset from read to write before he can start to really learning things.

    • @michaelspianochannel
      @michaelspianochannel 4 года назад

      What did the directors say?

    • @Ghost7065
      @Ghost7065 4 года назад +1

      @@michaelspianochannel It was basically a character description. it was rreally just stupid political plugins. basically "he is the perfect man that never back talks his wife, never says no and always does what she wants."
      they go on to say "yes grown men..." or something along that line (I don't recall) "...do exist".
      I was literally just pander and stupidity.
      you can find it on the web even yt has some videos on the comments.

    • @michaelspianochannel
      @michaelspianochannel 4 года назад

      @@Ghost7065 That's really dumb

  • @williamozier918
    @williamozier918 4 года назад +1

    This movie is hanging out in the same alternate timeline with Highlander II, Star Trek V, and Blues Brothers 2000.

  • @russianintheeagle8285
    @russianintheeagle8285 4 года назад +35

    Oh dont whine you know when James Cameron announces his involvement with another Terminator movie they will just say it's the true sequel to T2 and here we go again. Dark Fate is so shit...

    • @ontologicallysteve7765
      @ontologicallysteve7765 4 года назад +4

      James Cameron is an overrated pile of pretentious shit. His opinion is shit. But, ridiculously enough, there's people who project value upon his opinion. Blerg!

    • @THELANKANCOMRADE
      @THELANKANCOMRADE 4 года назад

      Ontologically Steve easy there boy you probably wouldn’t even be here to bitch about a terminator film in a terminator franchise if wasn’t for Cameron.

  • @deltaruin
    @deltaruin 4 года назад +2

    When they said Legion I immediately thought of Starks Iron Legion, then I started creating my own head canon for a Marvel/Terminator mashup where Ultron is winning in the AI uprising creating the Terminators in a separate universe.

  • @Idhart
    @Idhart 4 года назад +21

    I’m more confused about how the T2 Terminator wasn’t aware of this separate Terminator when it came to eliminating Skynet, especially considering Carl was well aware of the dates and times of Terminator arrivals.
    :|

    • @Idhart
      @Idhart 4 года назад

      Perhaps T2 Terminator didn’t get the memo?

    • @alleystargrowley2784
      @alleystargrowley2784 4 года назад

      It's a different future

    • @mrcheesemunch
      @mrcheesemunch 4 года назад

      Easily explained, he wasn't around long enough to feel those waves or whatever. It was never said they're some constant thing. T2's is only around for like...a week?

    • @guilhermehank4938
      @guilhermehank4938 4 года назад +3

      Superfan Giovanni that's a shitty explanation and you know it

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 4 года назад +1

      Because T2 was supposed to be the end and Uncle Bob couldn't predict the greed that comes with bad franchise stewardship.

  • @insomn3ak
    @insomn3ak 4 года назад +5

    “So she’s just throwing a temper tantrum?” Joe’s face 😂

  • @Fanible
    @Fanible 4 года назад +1

    That was one of the few clever things I liked about the movie. He didn't morph a gun. He had morphed a paper bag AROUND the gun hiding it.

  • @ProjectDelta1
    @ProjectDelta1 4 года назад +8

    I’m going to be honest I haven’t seen any Terminator movies since Terminator Salvation. I just lost interest and with this double whammy I don’t want to watch something that will piss me off.

  • @Seahawkfan1108
    @Seahawkfan1108 4 года назад +1

    First Luke now John....what's next? Rambo forgets his pills and dies?

  • @Radberrymoofin
    @Radberrymoofin 4 года назад +7

    I enjoy the ending for the Terminator in Mortal Kombat 11 story.

  • @acrow5
    @acrow5 4 года назад +6

    "There is no more Skynet." Yeah, it's Legion now. Just the same thing, but not.

    • @NaruBrilu
      @NaruBrilu 4 года назад +2

      Lmao ya this point exactly. He was like skynet doesnt exist anymore.. i was like well... it basically does it just has a different name and different cosmetics now

  • @lukewilson1745
    @lukewilson1745 4 года назад +2

    Why does Joe have so much animosity towards Alex?

  • @armanimartinez8105
    @armanimartinez8105 4 года назад +29

    The 80’s look....... the first movie was made in the 80’s

    • @smxwing
      @smxwing 4 года назад +2

      You don't get it

  • @GraceDupre
    @GraceDupre 4 года назад +4

    I'm already broken hearing that they Alien 3'd this one. :(

  • @JoveJoved
    @JoveJoved 4 года назад +17

    It's almost as if giving SJWs and feminists the reins of a loved franchise is a bad idea.

  • @kingfang949
    @kingfang949 4 года назад +6

    T1: Classic
    T2: Masterpiece
    T3: Meh...
    T4: is Okay
    T5: why...
    T6: DEAR GOD WHY!?!

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 4 года назад +2

    I want a movie that’s like Salvation but good. Not the same story, but I liked a couple things about it.

  • @ShaunORourke
    @ShaunORourke 4 года назад +1

    One of my subscribers stopped counting at 113 F-Bombs in my EPIC RANT about this shit stain of a film. As a life long Terminator fan I just didn't care if my video was demonitized.

  • @JnGArtimation
    @JnGArtimation 4 года назад +6

    Either your franchise dies a hero, or lives long enough to become a villain.

  • @blancmarquis2269
    @blancmarquis2269 4 года назад +12

    Joe: "It's sooo bad i hate every aspect"
    Also Joe: "8 out of 10 its got a little bit for everybody"

  • @skilledsummoner4274
    @skilledsummoner4274 4 года назад +4

    at least they can go back in time and fix john conner's death in the next one XD

  • @joyfreg2337
    @joyfreg2337 4 года назад +4

    they didn't even age dani up at all for the flash forward. just oh "lil girl supreme hardcore resistance leader."
    more power to lil girls, but real life is reasonably more savage.

  • @PRicanGeek
    @PRicanGeek 4 года назад

    Alex begins a rant as to why Sarah Conner even bothered to shoot Carl with a 9mm. Incredulous, I slowly start glancing over at AJ as the same time he's slowly glancing back at the camera. It was eerie. As if I was actually in the room with him. And out loud, I said to my screen, "Yes. I totally agree. Alex obviously has never had a traumatic loss". The concept of an irrational urge to take out frustration for an "illogical" reason totally eluded him in this instance.

  • @NitpickingNerd
    @NitpickingNerd 4 года назад +5

    18:50 his hand did NOT become a gun , he was hiding a gun in a small lunch bag and then simply morphed the bag away to reveal the gun

    • @craziedzombie
      @craziedzombie 4 года назад

      No he didnt dummy. He forged the gun.

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 4 года назад

      @@craziedzombie rewatch it. He hid it in a bag in his hand . The bag was part of his body but the gun wasnt it was just inside

  • @skowser7671
    @skowser7671 4 года назад +5

    When they killed John Conor, I was really thinking about walking out of the theater, but then through out the movie, I ended up enjoying it.

  • @alansmith4655
    @alansmith4655 4 года назад +5

    It's definitely 3/10. The moment Arnie arrives on screen it turns into a parody of itself. To a lesser extent Linda Hamilton. First act was good and I thought Mackenzie Davis' Grace was a great new character. After act one though it abandoned any attempt to take this franchise forward in a serious direction and turned into a CGI laden bunch of set pieces and stupid fucking jokes which shouldn't have a place in this universe. Not surprising really given that the director's previous work was action comedy. This was an action comedy. Shocking. T1 was a sci fi, action, thriller and horror movie. We've gone from that to action comedy that is so far removed from Cameron's vision of this universe. So, so disappointing. The wait for another great Terminator movie continues.

  • @robotic2000k
    @robotic2000k 4 года назад +12

    Let me introduce you to the new Terminator: W.O.K. 9000

  • @down-timegaming
    @down-timegaming 4 года назад

    This will blow your mind. The name of the resistance is Danni. The name of Miles Dyson's son is Danny. What if Dyson's kid was supposed to be the leader of the resistance after his meeting with john, sarah, and uncle Bob but John being killed changed the future and made it just different enough....idk

  • @kohisaaakohisaaa7095
    @kohisaaakohisaaa7095 4 года назад +10

    Terminator: Last Jedi

  • @bawitdaba1337
    @bawitdaba1337 4 года назад

    When they killed John they also shit on the TV series where he was a teenager. One of the things shown in the TV series is that the Terminators have Primary and Secondary objectives/targets. So if this took place in the TV series that Terminator would have killed John and Sarah together, it makes absolutely no sense for it to just walk away.

  • @thee_morpheus
    @thee_morpheus 4 года назад +6

    Dude, you're way off on this one Josey, 8/10??? What???

  • @Mordecai06
    @Mordecai06 4 года назад +1

    John Connor is not killed in Mexico, it was Guatemala, a different country

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 4 года назад +8

    I wish this franchise would try to copy T1 next time cuz they've tried to copy T2 like 3 times now lol

    • @laneshirley3706
      @laneshirley3706 4 года назад

      Because honestly the first Terminator was relatively boring

    • @lonewolf245-4
      @lonewolf245-4 3 года назад

      @@laneshirley3706 how

  • @Thastormable
    @Thastormable 4 года назад

    So basically... In trying to fix up the paradox of T2 (if skynet was destroyed no Terminator should be sent back) they ended up creating a even larger paradox (no John Conner means no Kyle Reese meaning no first movie and no Sarah for this film because she would not have known of terminators)
    I always saw it as three timelines. The first which is the original timeline which goes all the way up to salvation (everything seems to be in line with what was discussed before)
    The second timeline is dark fate which branches off from T2's tampering
    And the third timeline which is the 'paradox' timeline which is T1 is replaced with Genesis.
    Though ironically enough Genesis actually had a explanation for how earlier terminators could exist in later timelines, when your time traveling your stuck in your own little bubble and thus resistant to a extent to timeline changes and only start being effected after you come out of the bubble (we see that happen in Genesis)
    Edit:mind you I am referring to movie timelines, realistically every movie is its own timeline since the very act of going back in time alters the past and future.

  • @columbatiberius2176
    @columbatiberius2176 4 года назад +1

    Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator Films;
    In T1 he was The Terminator
    In T2 he was Uncle Bob
    In Genisys he was Pops
    And in Dark Fate he was Carl

  • @dustinforbes1788
    @dustinforbes1788 4 года назад +5

    After giving the movie an 8/10, AngryJoe's first rant is about how the plot doesn't make any sense. It's a 5 at best because not only does this movie screw up the story it throws in a dab of wokeness and politics just to remind that the world sucks and Hollywood is still mad Trump got elected. That shit was 3 years ago, get over it. No, they can't just give us 2 hours to just relax and take our minds off the constant BS we hear and go through every day. All I ask is for Hollywood to drop the politics in movies and to stop preaching at me while I'm trying to watch their movie. That's all I ask.🙏

    • @deathsdollar2606
      @deathsdollar2606 4 года назад +1

      Your sposed to turn your brain off remember

  • @TankNBeans
    @TankNBeans 4 года назад

    Remember in Terminator, Kyle Reese explains to Sarah that Terminators cannot be bargained with, It has no remorse, but fuck that Carl feels bad because reasons

  • @jordantinucci3509
    @jordantinucci3509 4 года назад +4

    Terminator: The last t-800

  • @sh9jscg
    @sh9jscg 4 года назад

    They do show the commander, it was the guy that was being carried on the medical thing, the pan a shot over her laying down while Grace is doing her "oh shit imma die here" moment

    • @jerome1lm
      @jerome1lm Год назад

      That was Dani. She is the commander.

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 4 года назад +2

    If you’re gonna make a *true* sequel, then you have to do something new. Just rehashing the second movie the same way is lazy. It’s a Force Awakens situation.

  • @redankennethuy1148
    @redankennethuy1148 4 года назад

    A tabletop match between Imperial Guard vs Necron is so much better representation of war against Skynet.

  • @phasedplasmarifle40w
    @phasedplasmarifle40w 4 года назад

    Guys, have to point out a detail you got wrong; the Rev-9 doesn't morph his hand into a gun. You see him notice the gun before he walks into the factory. He has taken the gun and has morphed his hand into a paper lunch bag surrounding the gun to hide it.

  • @harjabenharris4510
    @harjabenharris4510 4 года назад +5

    Question: if the future was changed how the hell did they send back more Terminators??

    • @danskyl7279
      @danskyl7279 4 года назад

      Plot error, moving on.

    • @oIIDAM
      @oIIDAM 4 года назад

      I guess ite meant to be that the t800 was sent the same time as the t1000 he just caught up a while later

    • @Azuwat
      @Azuwat 4 года назад

      Yes i noticed this too. Sarah was saying she gets cordinates of new terminators coming in and she kills them. Maybe there are other johns or some other things going.

    • @markuswien447
      @markuswien447 4 года назад +1

      Because women have to be the heroes in all well established movielore from now on. That's why. Nevermind the plot holes. Just adore these strong women and shut up. lol

    • @Azuwat
      @Azuwat 4 года назад

      Markus Wien i love women in action? I think its sexy

  • @BljesakiOluja
    @BljesakiOluja 4 года назад

    Alex doesn't understand how anger relief works apparently. Mate, it is called venting. Venting! Not venti, venting! And she can do it in the best way possible. Without harm to others. Screaming, tensions, breaking or punching something is a psychological release. It doesn't matter a punching bag doesn't feel or has any relation to an event, it helps the body and mind tense and release tension in a quick outburst of energy. The pointlessness in the point.

  • @coreprimal1172
    @coreprimal1172 4 года назад

    the question is who set carl's cpu to read and write, doesn't Skynet set all its terminators to read only when they are out on solo missions

  • @GeekdomCentral
    @GeekdomCentral 4 года назад

    One of my biggest issues Joe touched on - I didn’t buy her as the leader of the resistance. I just didn’t buy it. She looked like she was 14