I love how Brady occasional plays the devil's advocate to Grey in a way, since I too initially felt Grey's approach to a person complaining is to that of a snob who tries to play cool by finding emotion meaningless. But by Brady giving all these situation and context, Grey could give more clarity on his approach where he only feels that way to a specific group of people complaining and would take a different approach based on the context. (esp in Brady's hard drive story since it's easy to emphasize) Also, Grey and the reddit guy can both be right, because you both place a different value in the same thing. Person A pass by a street painter and feel that his painting is worthless, person B finds the very same painting worthy of a million of his dollar. The painting right now is both worthless and priceless at the same time, the value of a family name is the same, it is relative and therefore is both worthless and priceless. Grey is the man with the points but Brady adds so much substance to the cast, kudos to the two.
I've never made a comment on a RUclips Video before (that I can remember) and I'm sure I'm just shouting in to a room and then closing the door, but I wanted to say: The closing discussion of this video really touched me. I don't take a side to either Brady or Grey, I think they both made valid points. But I do want to say that the conversation touched me, particularly the long pause towards the end. Those are magical moments in life. I'm reminded of a novel called Dragon's Egg by Robert L. Forward. There's a scene in this book where this alien hyper-sentient AI, which has been severed from itself for many years, is suddenly confronted while trying to infiltrate a system secured by its old self. It's left contemplating the situation, completely stymied, unable to know how to react.
I like comic sans for one reason. I'm dyslexic, and some fonts are much easier to read than others. and comic sans is so much easier to read than many others. then again I agree that it shouldn't be used for all things but it's the second easiest font for me to read, first being this fond I found called dyslexie witch is just so good I can sort of feel the difference of be focusing on what the words mean rather what they are. the only thing I don't like so much about dislexie is that you have to pay to put it on multiple computers. but still a download for a single computer is free and you can get a free thing for your web browser that works... semi well that changes all the fonts to that
I should note, that comic neue is not as good as comic sans for dyslexia due to the fact that one of the things that helps is all the letters looking quite different and not reflections or rotations of each other and comic neue takes some of that away from a font
I see the humbling this as being "With everything going on and seeing how many people there are/how big it is" it sows how much people care it puts it in perspective in a way.
I feel names are very important. They give us a sense of personality, of individualism. If you just identified me as "Caucasian American teenager with brown hair" that doesn't give that sense of individuality that a name does. I know this isn't relevant to the conversation in this podcast, but I just felt like throwing that out there.
The name thing... I'm in the middle. Because I can understand wanting to pass on the name. BUT, his daughters can pass on his name. It's not written in stone that women need to take their partners name, or that the children don't get her name. I'm never giving up my name, because I have sentimental feelings towards my surname, and I am proud of my family heritage. So I think what Grey is pointing out, about names, is that it is a social construct we've created, so if you want to be nihilist about it, then yeah, names don't matter. But why do we still use them? Why are people so sentimental about their names?
I love the long pauses when they're both thinking about what the other is saying : ) I find it kinda sad that political debates don't have more long pauses.
Maybe they're humbled by it, because their self esteem does not match the praise they're receiving and in a way they have been proven wrong by being given an award or compliment. I think it perfectly fits the occasion to say that.
No. Someone can show humility in the face of such rapturous applause. But that doesn’t mean that the applause humbles them. Humbling someone is rendering someone human after they’ve acted as if they’re a god. The reason you think it appropriate is entirely because of how frequently you hear people say this
I have the sameway of thinking than Grey about trying to help others when they tell me about their problems... and it is as explosive for me as it is for him haha
Last can be quite powerful sometimes, the Kennedy's, the Roosevelt's and the Habsburg's... Last name carries the legacy of the families. And sometimes, it is just kinda cool
I find it odd people comment on videos without reading comments. I always read the entire first page of comments before adding anything, if anything you can find yourself corrected in a comment chain and avoid misinforming someone plus you can get some cool information from someone else which you'd never have known without the few minutes of reading. Given the number of comments on most videos of course you can't read them all but at least the first page seems to be a common courtesy to the creator who might get alerted or to the people who do read them (who don't want to read the same thing over and over).
Odd? So you're actually expecting a lot of people to actually put effort into something on the internet? Most people don't care, which is why usually you'll see similar comments repeated over and over.
Comic Sans is disliked because it's unprofessional, but people use it in professional contexts (like essays). There is nothing wrong with it in itself. If you want a good font, use Tahoma, or Veranda.
Oh, no. Trust me. There's much worse out there. I agree that Undertale is kind of a shitty fandom. Like all fandoms, really.I'm more of a casual fan, personally, but I changed my account name to this for a week as a goof, but because of Goggle+s shitty name rules I'm stuck with this. Trust me, I really don't want to be associated with those who let this one IP consume their lives any more than the next guy. Still, though, fun little observation.
every Fanbase counts as "Shit" in the Eyes of People outside or sometimes inside of them. Humans can Remeber Negative Things better than Positive ones. Also, when the Information you hear about something is mostly Negative you Automatically assume everything about it is Negative because it is Easier for your Brain to keep Track of it. example would be Muslims, Racism and Country stereotype. TL;DR Your Brain's Lazyness makes the World look more Shit than it is.
As someone who can relate more with Grey's thinking than Brady's, I do realize that I am an outlier however I still find the assertion of "That's not how humans work..." amusingly ironic.
Symbols are perceived as alive because they represent something so when the symbol dies or ends it has the same feeling if the actual thing died but at a lesser scale
Hey Grey, I'm an audiobook narrator, and you should look into the effects (specifically pitch, tempo, and noise cleaning) on Audacity to make an added line fit in with the rest of your sound track. I usually listen to the incorrect line once or twice immediately before recording the new version to make it easier to match the cadence.
I'm completely on-board with Grey's idea about language education. I think learning sign language was a good idea for a half year period. When it comes to the point about English in non-english speaking countries, i think it can be cut back, but not cut out completely, without any degradation to the quality of learning, as long as the kids have access to some English television or internet in their primary school years. They will always learn more outside of class, as long as there is access to it.
Comic Sans was designed to be legible on low resolution screens; that is it's merit. The overuse by amateur designers lead it to be regarded as a bad font.
The effect your talking about at 1:11 is refered to a "hype-poisoning" for videogames. hwne a game gets taked up over and over and everyone is really hyped for it and cant wait for it to come out because its just so amazing! and then it comes out and even if its an ok game it cannot live up to the hype and gets destroyed in the user ratings.
I remember watching that video and being slightly annoyed when he said prefix not suffix. That really bugged me, but I didn't comments, so many other people did already.
Yes, RUclips comments ARE like shouting in the void. But there is something therapeutic about getting it off of one's chest. Especially when said one is listening to the podcast years behind schedule, and thus said one's voice cannot be heard nor even ignored on the relevant Reddit discussion.
Here's how to make Brady's data loss analogy work: You've lost all your data, and then someone who assigns no emotional value to their data walks up and tries to convince you that you shouldn't care the data is gone. It doesn't matter if that person is right or not, you're still going to get mad at them for trying to convince you not to be sad because it doesn't matter. I know Grey would just argue back, and perhaps this reddit person didn't have a full Grey-worthy argument prepared for why a name holds value, but who would? That just means he either wasn't as prepared or isn't as good at debating as Grey, it doesn't mean he's wrong to assign value to a name.
Actually the several articles I've read about the topic claim that BEING bilingual may delay onset of Alzheimers. That means having been raised with two languages AS A KID, not learning a new language at age 20, 50, 70 or whatever.
But you can be bilingual when youre thirty as well... My parents are bilingual from the age of thirty. By the way what about tri-lingual people? I hope it gives me more advantages than being able to write comments on youtube..
The Heretic Sure, but what CGP seemed to imply was that learning a language AT OLD AGE delayed the onset of dementia, but that you might as well do any other brain activity and the result would be the same. What the studies I've found actually say is that BEING bilingual delays Alzheimers. That's not the same thing at all.
The problem with that is that mental deterioration still happens, I know several people that have said more than once "they say mental exercise/knowledge/languages delay Alzheimer's, my Mom/dad/aunt/uncle still got it." As with pretty much every other thing, some people seem to get it earlier, other's later and other don't get it at all.
Funny thing about the analogy with Amazon's dumb marketing strategy, comparing it to a movie trailer that doesn't tell you what the movie is: that's actually exactly what the trailer for Miracle on 34th Street did. Go check it out, it's utterly amazing. Not only does it not mention Christmas or Santa, it doesn't say a SINGLE WORD about the film. And it's LONG, and meta - you're watching studio guys in a screening room watching the trailer. The thing is truly mind boggling
I am writing this into the void... His name is his identity. He is losing a part of himself. When people look at their children they see a part of themselves in them. The name is a part of that identity that then passes to them. It feels like a little part of you is dying. (Even though I understand his feelings I totally am on your side, Grey. I think the name just doesn't matter.)
That's why you have that nice NPR voice. I swear North Carolina grows podcast people over here. We have some of the most reasonable people and some of the stupidest politicians I was never able to understand that.
I just figured out why Grey is personified as a robot, I mean I kind of got it before but yeah. Now I fully understand...
for some reason the visual appearance of the toy reminds me of brady.
Michael Boullon same here! It's so Brady!
it's humbling, isn't it?
this is literally the most humbling podcast
I am humbled by your comment.
reddit.com/r/wholesomememes
I am humbled by joining this year old thread
I am humbled by being humbled
@@ladymilliejean4166 same
"You're so filled with the desire to correct someone else that you scroll past everything else." That is so true, its humbling me so much.
Now where have I seen that name before?
"then why are they telling me their problems?"
"BECAUSE THEY WANT EMPATHY!"
i was half expecting grey to say
"what's empathy?"
1:40:08
For anyone that wants to revisit this quote.
Already listened to the podcast on hellointernet, just came here to see what little toy you have this week. A fantastic choice, Brady :]
Same here!
I love how Brady occasional plays the devil's advocate to Grey in a way, since I too initially felt Grey's approach to a person complaining is to that of a snob who tries to play cool by finding emotion meaningless.
But by Brady giving all these situation and context, Grey could give more clarity on his approach where he only feels that way to a specific group of people complaining and would take a different approach based on the context. (esp in Brady's hard drive story since it's easy to emphasize)
Also, Grey and the reddit guy can both be right, because you both place a different value in the same thing.
Person A pass by a street painter and feel that his painting is worthless, person B finds the very same painting worthy of a million of his dollar. The painting right now is both worthless and priceless at the same time, the value of a family name is the same, it is relative and therefore is both worthless and priceless.
Grey is the man with the points but Brady adds so much substance to the cast, kudos to the two.
The end of the podcast was how I imagine humans will teach emotions robots
Grey is so logical that he considers whether his emotion is rational before getting that emotion.
I've never made a comment on a RUclips Video before (that I can remember) and I'm sure I'm just shouting in to a room and then closing the door, but I wanted to say:
The closing discussion of this video really touched me. I don't take a side to either Brady or Grey, I think they both made valid points. But I do want to say that the conversation touched me, particularly the long pause towards the end. Those are magical moments in life. I'm reminded of a novel called Dragon's Egg by Robert L. Forward. There's a scene in this book where this alien hyper-sentient AI, which has been severed from itself for many years, is suddenly confronted while trying to infiltrate a system secured by its old self. It's left contemplating the situation, completely stymied, unable to know how to react.
Ah! I am a fool! I quoted the wrong book. Dragon's Egg is still a fantastic book, but I was thinking of Fallen Dragon by Peter F. Hamilton.
I like comic sans for one reason. I'm dyslexic, and some fonts are much easier to read than others. and comic sans is so much easier to read than many others. then again I agree that it shouldn't be used for all things but it's the second easiest font for me to read, first being this fond I found called dyslexie witch is just so good I can sort of feel the difference of be focusing on what the words mean rather what they are. the only thing I don't like so much about dislexie is that you have to pay to put it on multiple computers. but still a download for a single computer is free and you can get a free thing for your web browser that works... semi well that changes all the fonts to that
I should note, that comic neue is not as good as comic sans for dyslexia due to the fact that one of the things that helps is all the letters looking quite different and not reflections or rotations of each other and comic neue takes some of that away from a font
ProfAwesomeO Everything you just typed is extremely fascinating to me (no sarcasm)
Mr_Razor I think dyslexia in general is an interesting subject to learn about, so I understand
Bring black plane crash corner
i would like to speak to the endlessly uncaring void to say i usually read the top 10-20 comments.
The void always cares but not usually enough, this is an exception
Same here
I agree
*Welcome to the void*
Preußen The Great the void acknowledges your presence
I agree with Grey on names dying out. I don't understand why it's important, especially if you won't be alive for it.
The feeling of legacy can be important. It can feel sad to feel like your life's work is forgotten
+1 op
"Uptown Sinclair"... I much prefer him to Downtown Sinclair
@@ChrisChoi123 That's the joke.
I see the humbling this as being "With everything going on and seeing how many people there are/how big it is" it sows how much people care it puts it in perspective in a way.
"It's almost a character now, this typeface."
That is... such a font pun. Did you even realize? lol
One dude at my company always writes all of his emails in comic sans and knowing how jaded he is I can't help but think he's trying to troll everyone
I feel names are very important. They give us a sense of personality, of individualism. If you just identified me as "Caucasian American teenager with brown hair" that doesn't give that sense of individuality that a name does. I know this isn't relevant to the conversation in this podcast, but I just felt like throwing that out there.
i love it when gray says "on the internet"
The name thing... I'm in the middle. Because I can understand wanting to pass on the name. BUT, his daughters can pass on his name. It's not written in stone that women need to take their partners name, or that the children don't get her name. I'm never giving up my name, because I have sentimental feelings towards my surname, and I am proud of my family heritage. So I think what Grey is pointing out, about names, is that it is a social construct we've created, so if you want to be nihilist about it, then yeah, names don't matter. But why do we still use them? Why are people so sentimental about their names?
DRINKING GAME:
Take a shot every time they say "Humble" or Grey says "Uhum" to Brady.
they said it so many times it doesn't mean anything anymore
I know have no kidneys.
william rhodes Jamei Vu
Hello Internet, the podcast where I can listen to someone shred paper.
And where you can listen to a human talking to a robot about emotions.
That snippet right at the end was gold!! Such a cheeky tone to it. I cracked up at it.
This was oddly profound. I've had conversations like that with people and its always a pleasure.
I love the long pauses when they're both thinking about what the other is saying : ) I find it kinda sad that political debates don't have more long pauses.
Maybe they're humbled by it, because their self esteem does not match the praise they're receiving and in a way they have been proven wrong by being given an award or compliment. I think it perfectly fits the occasion to say that.
No. Someone can show humility in the face of such rapturous applause. But that doesn’t mean that the applause humbles them. Humbling someone is rendering someone human after they’ve acted as if they’re a god. The reason you think it appropriate is entirely because of how frequently you hear people say this
Interesting talking about speed as I watch every RUclips video, including these podcasts at x2 speed
Grey needs to make a full 9 hour deconstruction of the Hobbit movies.
the ending really trails off
About 5:10
"If you really hate someone, teach them how to recognize bad kerning."
~XKCD Comic
The little notebooks for passwords is better than having bad, easy to remember passwords...
Lol people complaining about ads. It's a podcast guys. It started as a podcast. Podcasts have ads. Live with it.
I'm liking this season better. I find myself laughing quite a bit. People at work are probably like, "Why does he have a stupid smirk on his face?"
I have the sameway of thinking than Grey about trying to help others when they tell me about their problems... and it is as explosive for me as it is for him haha
this is just such a fun podcast, theyre both very rational in very different ways hahah bravo.
I hate comic sans because it killed my family, now you´re going to tell me I hate comic sans because we like to hate it? Rubbish.
I hate comic sans because it fed my homework to my dog. My dog refused to eat it, but still. It's a matter of principle.
Last can be quite powerful sometimes, the Kennedy's, the Roosevelt's and the Habsburg's... Last name carries the legacy of the families. And sometimes, it is just kinda cool
I don't think I am meant to be laughing as much as I am. Good stuff.
That looks like a freaking awesome windup toy
CGP Grey's robotic rationality is adorable.
John Green & Brady should have a naming competition
@12:08-.-Saying this about comic sans is very funny in hindsight.
I find it odd people comment on videos without reading comments. I always read the entire first page of comments before adding anything, if anything you can find yourself corrected in a comment chain and avoid misinforming someone plus you can get some cool information from someone else which you'd never have known without the few minutes of reading.
Given the number of comments on most videos of course you can't read them all but at least the first page seems to be a common courtesy to the creator who might get alerted or to the people who do read them (who don't want to read the same thing over and over).
Odd? So you're actually expecting a lot of people to actually put effort into something on the internet? Most people don't care, which is why usually you'll see similar comments repeated over and over.
Tempus Sans ITC is my favorite font in the semi hand written style.
Yeah... I REALLY would like to hear your full Hobbit rant...
I fucking love this seal... its so entertaining...
Also, ultimate shredder is fire.
Grey kinda sounds like in conversations
"Mhmm, mhmm" "uhhhh, ummm"
"SIGH"
How many times did you need to wind up that toy...
Feel so bad for you Brady, you need more self moving objects.
Yay!! Another HI episode, my day is complete :D
"This old church burned down.." Brady predicted Notre Dame
@@ideallyyours It is a church in the same way an aircraft carrier is a boat.
“[Comic Sans] is almost a character now.”
oh boy just wait another few years past Brady.
When he started talking about fonts did anyone else think of "The Middle" with Brick and his Fontcast?
Comic Sans is disliked because it's unprofessional, but people use it in professional contexts (like essays). There is nothing wrong with it in itself. If you want a good font, use Tahoma, or Veranda.
"It's almost a character now, this Comic Sans..."
WELL, IT IS NOW!!! NYEH HEH HEH!
(Cringes at own joke)
+CoolSkeleton95 __
I'm pretty sure Undertale is the only fanbase worse than the MLP community.
Oh, no. Trust me. There's much worse out there. I agree that Undertale is kind of a shitty fandom. Like all fandoms, really.I'm more of a casual fan, personally, but I changed my account name to this for a week as a goof, but because of Goggle+s shitty name rules I'm stuck with this. Trust me, I really don't want to be associated with those who let this one IP consume their lives any more than the next guy. Still, though, fun little observation.
im pretty sure most of the Undertale fan base cam from MLP fan base... watch out for the sonic fans , they are rare but some are rabid.
every Fanbase counts as "Shit" in the Eyes of People outside or sometimes inside of them.
Humans can Remeber Negative Things better than Positive ones.
Also, when the Information you hear about something is mostly Negative you Automatically assume everything about it is Negative because it is Easier for your Brain to keep Track of it.
example would be Muslims, Racism and Country stereotype.
TL;DR
Your Brain's Lazyness makes the World look more Shit than it is.
In my first period class my teacher's self made test are in Papyrus and my second, comic sans
As someone who can relate more with Grey's thinking than Brady's, I do realize that I am an outlier however I still find the assertion of "That's not how humans work..." amusingly ironic.
Symbols are perceived as alive because they represent something so when the symbol dies or ends it has the same feeling if the actual thing died but at a lesser scale
Brady, to feel humbled means to learn to be humility / humbleness.
It's a figure of speech :P
56:42 Dashlane must have listened to that section.
Hey Grey, I'm an audiobook narrator, and you should look into the effects (specifically pitch, tempo, and noise cleaning) on Audacity to make an added line fit in with the rest of your sound track. I usually listen to the incorrect line once or twice immediately before recording the new version to make it easier to match the cadence.
Exiguous seems like a good word to replace humbled.
I feel "small in size" by your praise.
I'm completely on-board with Grey's idea about language education. I think learning sign language was a good idea for a half year period. When it comes to the point about English in non-english speaking countries, i think it can be cut back, but not cut out completely, without any degradation to the quality of learning, as long as the kids have access to some English television or internet in their primary school years. They will always learn more outside of class, as long as there is access to it.
Humbleness and humility are two different things... That's how.
1:00:11 - 1:00:14 you just know they had a big argument over that silence
Shredders are just fun to use.
Comic Sans was designed to be legible on low resolution screens; that is it's merit. The overuse by amateur designers lead it to be regarded as a bad font.
The Jungle- Uptown "funk" SINclair
The effect your talking about at 1:11 is refered to a "hype-poisoning" for videogames. hwne a game gets taked up over and over and everyone is really hyped for it and cant wait for it to come out because its just so amazing! and then it comes out and even if its an ok game it cannot live up to the hype and gets destroyed in the user ratings.
"stuff" and "things" are greys kryptonite
There is a way to design that toy to run longer by stopping the ball spinning while it's waddling.
Viewer casts Sadness, Grey revives priority with Sadness on the stack, casts Counterspell. Counterspell resolves, viewer have be happy now.
Wow, I forgot how far behind the YT versions are...
I like the "grey data" honestly...
I remember watching that video and being slightly annoyed when he said prefix not suffix. That really bugged me, but I didn't comments, so many other people did already.
Yes, RUclips comments ARE like shouting in the void. But there is something therapeutic about getting it off of one's chest. Especially when said one is listening to the podcast years behind schedule, and thus said one's voice cannot be heard nor even ignored on the relevant Reddit discussion.
best...walrus, ever
once again without emotion the humans are deaddeaddeaddeaddeaddeaddeaddeeurh
there is already a word for what the ISP's want to do, it's called throttling. We need the reverse term
I would TOTALLY have a notebook full of passwords
flattered to the point of embarrassment =humbled... for some people. Personally, I think they should say the long version (fttpoe)
1:25:20
Actually, I have rewatched (nearly all of) Grey's videos around 7 times.
*yells into the void*
Uptown Sinclair? LOL
when you replie to a 6 year old commecnt
That's irrationally rationally ordered.
out of all places for the word freeboot to be used in it had to be sinclairs book. GG
Here's how to make Brady's data loss analogy work: You've lost all your data, and then someone who assigns no emotional value to their data walks up and tries to convince you that you shouldn't care the data is gone. It doesn't matter if that person is right or not, you're still going to get mad at them for trying to convince you not to be sad because it doesn't matter. I know Grey would just argue back, and perhaps this reddit person didn't have a full Grey-worthy argument prepared for why a name holds value, but who would? That just means he either wasn't as prepared or isn't as good at debating as Grey, it doesn't mean he's wrong to assign value to a name.
Actually the several articles I've read about the topic claim that BEING bilingual may delay onset of Alzheimers. That means having been raised with two languages AS A KID, not learning a new language at age 20, 50, 70 or whatever.
But you can be bilingual when youre thirty as well... My parents are bilingual from the age of thirty. By the way what about tri-lingual people? I hope it gives me more advantages than being able to write comments on youtube..
The Heretic Sure, but what CGP seemed to imply was that learning a language AT OLD AGE delayed the onset of dementia, but that you might as well do any other brain activity and the result would be the same. What the studies I've found actually say is that BEING bilingual delays Alzheimers. That's not the same thing at all.
The problem with that is that mental deterioration still happens, I know several people that have said more than once "they say mental exercise/knowledge/languages delay Alzheimer's, my Mom/dad/aunt/uncle still got it." As with pretty much every other thing, some people seem to get it earlier, other's later and other don't get it at all.
I can't stop staring at that fucking walrus... I have to minimize the screen now XD
Funny thing about the analogy with Amazon's dumb marketing strategy, comparing it to a movie trailer that doesn't tell you what the movie is: that's actually exactly what the trailer for Miracle on 34th Street did. Go check it out, it's utterly amazing. Not only does it not mention Christmas or Santa, it doesn't say a SINGLE WORD about the film. And it's LONG, and meta - you're watching studio guys in a screening room watching the trailer. The thing is truly mind boggling
I feel bad that I made an owl joke on the last podcast, then seen 2 more when i scrolled through the comments
My name for net neutrality is "queue sieving".:)
Ironic to listen to this for the first time fresh off the heels of the repeal of net neutrality.
Comic Neue is great!
I am writing this into the void...
His name is his identity. He is losing a part of himself. When people look at their children they see a part of themselves in them. The name is a part of that identity that then passes to them.
It feels like a little part of you is dying. (Even though I understand his feelings I totally am on your side, Grey. I think the name just doesn't matter.)
1:57:35 So Brady did not dropped a book of password, was just the toy?
36:30 What was that laugh, Grey!?
Grey, do you call it the Sears or Willis tower?
1:42:18 There have been CASES in Grey's life...
Here I am commenting with the certainty that Grey and Brady will never read it. 😊
That's why you have that nice NPR voice. I swear North Carolina grows podcast people over here. We have some of the most reasonable people and some of the stupidest politicians I was never able to understand that.