I use a forgotten method with my vintage era movie camera!
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this video, we dive a little deeper into the forgotten craft of "the rack-over" method used in Old Hollywood for more than half a century, as I demonstrate what it was like to shoot this way using my own vintage movie camera! If this sounds familiar, yes I did very quickly hit on this topic in a previous video, but I felt like I didn't do it justice. Besides, I didn't have a good way of reproducing the technique - UNTIL NOW - as I acquire an original accessory for my camera called "the Focusing Alignment Gauge".
Heartfelt thanks to my daughters for helping me and for causing me to over-react with joy to the footage we shot over the Holidays. GOODBYE 2020!
Shout out to Origin8Video and their video for Art Adams "The Canyon", where I pulled the on-set demonstration of the Bell & Howell 2709 racking over, as well as a HUGE shout-out to Sam Dodge and his fantastic insight on historic cameras. AMAZING stuff and thank you for making this available to the filmmaking community!
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With Art Adams "The Canyon" - Bell & Howell 2709 Behind the scenes
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If you made it this far, you're a superb human being :D
Please do more RUclips videos, your channel is gold!! 🙏🙌
(much belated) Thank you so much!! I would love to do more but sadly life and lack of funding has significantly slowed my output for this channel. I was thinking of starting a patreon to assist so that I could afford to turn down freelance work and focus on this more, but not sure how much of a difference if would make. What do you think!? And what kind of rewards would interest you!? THANKS!!!
I love how now a days high quality RUclips channels like this just pop up out of nowhere. I am loving it XD
I have been scoring and accompanying silent films for almost 45 years, so I share your love for the wonderful look and feel of film...I am even trying to keep 16mm presentations alive at our local Laurel and Hardy club meetings. As a camera collector, I appreciate your introducing all to the rackover system. I believe it was part of the "golden age" look due to the constraints it put on camera movement, etc. (Lord, I dislike modern "shaky-cam"😵💫). My Kodak Cine Special has a unique way of accomplishing the rackover that you might enjoy researching. While I have a number of 16mm and 35mm cameras and projectors, my dream is to have an unmodified Mitchell and Bell & Howell 2709 (I dream big). Finally, I absolutely love your idea of creating a vintage studio, something I have thought about for years. Please keep us all posted and keep up these fine video productions. I will now subscribe, Mr. "LLoyd".🤓
Thank you. This is the most interesting, informative and well presented video that I've watched on RUclips for a very long time!
To answer the question in the end: absolutely yes!
Trivia about thr Mitchell camera, One of the most modified Mitchells ever would have belonged to Stanley Cubrick for the movie Berry Lyndon...
And when it comes to film formats, there is no better story than the one about the 2 friends who went from making 16mm surfing movies to pioneering IMAX 70mm (MacgGillivray and Freedman).
Anyway keep up the amazing work!
Well done. Will spread around. I have my father's 16mm Bell and Howell and his films shot in the 1930's, of M.I T' s football games. The football team was resurrected in the late 30's, after bring dormant for many years. My father, who was already faculty, was picked as coach. For some reason, the footage is sepia. The best footage, however, is the camera on the field during a massive tug of war involving hundreds of people. It's sharp, incredibly vivid, and as exciting as any newsreel I ever saw.
I'm obviously biased as I am shooting short films on film myself but the idea of a vintage movie studio sounds amazing
Soon well not that soon but you will be watched for thousands of years As time passes on this art this Incredibly important time Of cinematography Will be studied millions of like minded Individuals that did not get the honor of Being taught this Incredibly rare but not forgotten art And for all of those people I humbly thank you for your dedication Corky Nature And innocent love For old vintage cinematography.
Absolutely love your reaction to seeing your own daughters on film. As a film photographer, developing my own images gets me that excited sometimes.
I know right? It's like magic every time! And so satisfying (especially when it turns out well lol) Thanks so much for the comment. I sincerely appreciate it 🙏
Daughters?!
Thank you Vintage Film Maker Guy. You are the most unlikely Superhero. Stupendously glamorous.
I'm not the hero we deserve ; )
But seriously, you're welcome kind sir. And lol I was thinking the same thing about my makeup but was hoping no one else noticed! I'll work on that in the future. I've got a gross skin condition so I tend to overdo it :P
Be well, and thanks for your support!
This is pure joy! Subscribed!
Accidentally came across your site and I grew up at I haven't shot film since the early 70s with my super 8 mm makes me want to jump back in again thank you for sharing
I’m not a filmmaker but I love film. I am also a father of three daughters and felt very moved by your images and your excitement about them. I wasn’t expecting that, thank you.
B&H made a camera slider before they became cool nearly 60 years later during the DSLR era. How neat is that
9:12 don't worry im SCREAMING LOOKS GORGEOUS
Just discovered your channel....EXCELLENT!!
This is fantastic. Keep making these films. I used to have one of those 16mm Bell & Howell 70 cameras. I didn't know that little glass lens or what ever that was on the side was used for focusing. I figured for critical focus you had to measure. I know there is a small group of people out there that like silent movies.
20 minutes video and it felt like 3, you make all of these videos so entertaining, love it!
WOW Thanks so much! That's very high praise and I really appreciate it 🙏
This channel inspired me to buy my own Filmos and see where the journey tales me 🙂
Beautiful picture great film love it
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
The SLR type camera was actually quite popular prior to the 40's, but they were quite expensive. As a vintage guy, you might find the Graflex type camera quite fascinating. While graflex might be better known for their press cameras like the crown and speed graphics, they had been making reflex camera designs since the teens. If you watch a few of the great silver screen classics, like "It happened one night" you'll see many of the press photographers were using graflex reflex type cameras. (The development of flash photography is what ultimately makes the graphic type camera more popular, due to easier flash synchronisation.) However, the popularity of the 35mm stills SLR is very much attributable to the Exakta and Kine Exakta (and also potentially the GOMZ sport of the same year.)
Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing this. I looked up the Graflex SLR's and totally geeked out about it :D
And sorry if I oversimplified the SLR story for this video. As with anything there's always SOOOOO much more detailed history than what I had time to get into, but I did want to attempt to connect modern mirrorless/DSLR video shooters with that iconic 60s-70s SLR body origin, since it's a familiar shape and since many of them were unaware of what "SLR" stands for. But the technology itself is admittedly much older and separate from the ARRI story or reflex movie cameras in general. I may have to revisit this topic in another video someday lol Again, thanks again for sharing!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯 thanks for this information. Very helpful. Love it!
Glad it was helpful! Thank YOU for the comment!!! 🙏🙏🙏
your footage looked amazing!! and i love this video. subbed
I just found your channel. Everyone of your videos are excellent. Keep on shooting. Just subscribed.
Thank you so much! It's been hard to make more but I will do my best. I might start a patreon so that I can afford to do this more often, so stay tuned!
superb,please keep making videos...we have your back...
THANK YOU!!! I really appreciate it 🙏
No joke I recently just bought one of the and was looking for a tutorial and found your video on the filmo which was also a huge coincidence because I just bought the Filmo 70 DL model recently hehe still waiting for them to arrive.
Your channel is very inspirational I love old Hollywood and it's nice to see someone with the same passion!!
That's awesome!!! I sincerely hope your camera brings you as much delight as mine has. It's such a fundamentally different experience. Please lmk if you wind up doing anything you feel is "share worthy" ;)
Best of luck!
Great video thanks
I got addicted to this whole camera thing thanks to a canon t70 SLR. I love it still, but guessing is kinda fun in a way with my Demi and various folding cameras I own :3
How the heck do you have 1.5k subscribers. Your channel is so amazing.
I love the excitement and passion!
You have a really good channel, its a shame you dont have more subscribers.
Good, now i need more video of yours. Please continue your beautiful work!
wow...thank you SOOOOO MUCH!!! I'll do my best to keep them coming!
Very nice job “vintage film guy”!
Thanks very much Shawn!
Pity you didn’t ask me before. Historically correct would be: exact framing and accurate focusing was possible with a number of cameras since 1895. The cinématographe Lumière afforded direct vision of the scene on the film, so did the Parvo by Debrie (1907), the Pathé industriel (1908), the Wilart (1919), the Sept by Debrie (1920), and still a few more. The process was also used with 16-mm. cameras, for example the Dilk-FA or the Su-GA among others. A few cameras have a behind-the-film reflex finder, again in various film formats.
I love you channel, I got into vintage film cameras only a year ago and can’t get enough of it.
Isn't it the best!? There's something about having that tactile feeling and the manual operation that gives you such a direct, personal responsibility for the outcome of the film (at least for me anyway lol). Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@@TheVintageFilmmaker Exactly! I am a student trying to be a filmmaker and I keep find myself going to film. I have done 16mm, 8mm, Super 8 experiences and hopefully one day 35mm film movie. This channel you have is essential for the world of motion picture and it’s history!
Great Job!
THANK YOU! (sorry for the delayed response! haha)
such enthusiasm and clear passion as a content creator and good quality too, yet so unseen. I found you today cause I found an old Bell & Howell 8 mm zoomation in my local antique store and was researching on how it worked, then I came across this video. keep up the good videos man, you're doing good
I like the Harold Lloyd look.
Thanks!! 🤓
Loved this video! I started making videos on RUclips this year and have been getting really into old cameras and attempting to recreate the look of old cameras digitally in editing, but recently got my hands on a Cine Kodak Eight Model 90 and really interested in trying to film something with it (or at least keeping it as a nice prop and getting another old camera whose film is easier to find 😅) So cool to see your real reaction to your daughters' film! Love the idea of 1940s movie studios coming back! So cool! Would love to hear more about the art and history of movie making, subscribing and looking forward to seeing more! 🙌
I shot news with a non reflex Bolex and Bell and Howell 70DR and titles with a Mitchell rackover. Reflex viewing existed as far back as the silent days with the European Cineflex cameras that used a rotating mirror like a modern Arriflex. Hollywood wasn't interested for a number of reasons. I suspect that one of them was fear that it could potentially put focus pullers out of a job. I could see reflex viewing regarded as a "vulgar newsreel" thing by Hollywood cinematographers of that time. Joseph Walker, ASC, mentioned some of this elitism in his memoirs, The Light on Her Face. I highly recommend that book if you love old Hollywood stuff.
Great video. Tx
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow you are so underrated! I am absolutely in love with your style and channel! I'm actually about to pick up a Bell and Howell 70DL 🙂
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! It means a lot that you'd take the time to give me feedback, especially when it's supportive! lol So again, thank you
And good luck with your "new" B&H DL! I've been using my 70D quite a bit lately and will post more about my experiences soon :D
Loved this video! Very entertaining and fascinating.
I'm so glad you liked it!!! It's always a joy to see your comments and receive your kind feedback :D
The production quality for these videos is understated. I don't know how your view and subscriber count still amounts to so low.
As a vintage film lover (and hopefully gonna learn how to load my 16mm Krasnogorsk one day-type guy) this is a channel I've always wanted to exist! Instant subscribe! Your production quality, edit pacing, and information etiquette is off the charts dude :D
Holy smokes, thanks Kevin! I sincerely appreciate your feedback. I'll do my best to keep making videos for you and everyone who's recently subscribed. I'm completely blown away!!! Good luck with that Krasnogorsk (I may have to get one of those someday too lol) and thanks again :D
I have an 8mm canon which has a second viewfinder (which is sadly inverted) so you can rack down by flipping the turret. Its rough but it works
Keep on baby! 🎉💥🥴
I love how you filmed your reaction to the footage! It came out really well.
Thank you!! 😊 And that was TOTALLY unplanned! I was kind of nervous about sharing that but so many have reached out to me about it, I'm truly glad I did. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!!!
I am just falling in love with this channel! That's what I needed in life and didn't know about.
But I am gonna curse you if that will cause another addiction as even (24x)35mm film is already ripping me off!
Beautiful video about vintage film making! All power to you, vintage film maker.com. best regards, Marcus Macann.
If you ever want to make it into the sound era, perhaps your next camera should be an Auricon with an optical sound amplifier. There's a whole cult following behind Auricons. Here's an assignment for you, go out and cover a modern event with an Auricon and your Bell and Howell. Then put together a newsreel in the style of Walter Winchell.
YES! I've been looking at Auricons and considering possibly investing in one. I've been stupid busy with free-lance video work lately trying to pay the bills I've temporarily had to put off getting my hands on more vintage gear at the moment, but I'll keep you updated should I get the chance. STAY TUNED!
You should try to recreate two strip technicolor with two color filters and two identical motor driven cameras!
What a great video👌 I don't know how you don't have more subscribers
Thanks so much!!!
YOU NEED A PATREON MAN
Would you be able to give measurements of the gauge, I can’t find the device for sale but I’d like to try and possibly make one :)
прекрасно !!!
Andy: Did Bell & Howell manufacture these focus alignment gauges in a universal manner, or were they made for specific models in the 70 series?
Hi Frank! Thanks for the question. I believe they were specific to a camera system, i.e. the one in the videos was meant for the 16mm Filmo 70 series so it would not work on say a 35mm Eyemo. Mind you, this stuff is still new to me and I could be wrong! but that's based on what I've learned thus far. Hope that helps :/
I don't suppose there's any way you could measure one of those up for us? Thank you for showing about the viewfinder I just purchased one and I'm trying to learn how to use it it came with some film inside of it of course it's been open twice at least but that doesn't mean anything can't wait to get it developed and find out if there's anything on it... But I'm thinking I could use a slider on my tripod and it might be helpful to know the measurement between the holes I have 70 Dr... Keep up the good work and if there's anything I can do to help let me know I have thoughts along the same line vintage film studio... I will be working on my movie as soon as the film arrives... I looked all over the place to try to find one of those gauges but there are none that I can see anywhere I mean I could estimate it actually probably get it right but there's any way that you can measure it that would be cool or maybe photograph it to scale
@@bootmenow Have you received any answer about the dimension. yes it would be a great info to share ;-)
No. Mine is a dr70 16mm like the vintage filmmakers .. having the hole measurements would maybe be useful. I have a machinist Freind.... Distance apart, other better images. Thanks. It might even be possible to have some 3D printed
God damn your setup is absolutely gorgeous though. My 16mm is a keystone a9 criterion. Yours is a lottttttt nicer. I really just wanted to use mine to shoot music videos but I fucked up and ordered a 33ft lomo tank instead of the 100ft variation and developing my own 16mm is going to be an issue lmao.. four whole cycles for a single roll
Honestly, i would be as excited and reacting the same way!! haha
Good job!!
But, why are you watching on your cellphone????? its a tiny screen to see all the details.
I know right!? The irony lol. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I bought a 4K camera Sony FDR AX43 and I am tve happiest man on the earth. I discovered that adjusting reducing iris very subexposed looks like movie camera, and the effect as Cine (film look) is not selecting "Movie effect", as any owner can think. No. I discovered that ussing another photographic effect (in fact photographie effect) looks like movie texture, reducing the classic digital television border line contorn (similar as focusing nore or blur in Photoshop). Well, movie are less (or nothing) contorn line (I don't know if I am being clair explaing what I want to say🤔). Film has more pastel colors than television or digital picture, and my camera haw that effect.
I had a Suowr 8 Bell & Howell projector brand new in 1985. And my brother snd me bought a Kodak camera all new, same year. Very cheap, cause they were obsolet midle 80s.
Greetings from Santiago, Chile SouthAmerica 🇨🇱
You should try using a modern lens on your camera just to see what the results would look like.
I wanna ask some question where you get the new film iam wanna new film to
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i guess good has multiple definitions
One take wonders like Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin.