How the Germans Measured Milliseconds MECHANICALLY - Smarter Every Day 283

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday  Год назад +833

    There's no sponsor on this video, so a huge thank you to everyone who helped me make it by supporting on Patreon at www.patreon.com/smartereveryday !
    If you'd like to check out the cameras at KamerStore, here's the link that gets you free shipping!
    kamerastore.com/smarter

    • @Highlandword9
      @Highlandword9 Год назад +8

      Your vids are always so interesting, thank you! :]

    • @matthewfurlani8647
      @matthewfurlani8647 Год назад +4

      Your eyeball IS technically your brain. So i think persistence of vision is due to both. But im no expert

    • @NicholasA231
      @NicholasA231 Год назад +5

      I'm in the process of adjusting which creators I support, and increasing how much I support those that I can, and I feel a little badly that I haven't become a patron before now. I am hoping (and probably will) add you to my list, but part of my new model is to focus on creators that support alternative sites to RUclips. Is there any reason that you would be opposed to mirroring content to somewhere like Odyssee? I watch a lot of RUclips creators there, and I was a little surprised to not find you.

    • @JessWLStuart
      @JessWLStuart Год назад +3

      Destin, please don't ever loose your child like glee at learning new things and solving puzzles! It's infectious! Thanks! :D

    • @stevekelly5166
      @stevekelly5166 Год назад +3

      I don't do speeling corrections, but KamerStore...
      They really deserve KameraStore

  • @Kamerastore
    @Kamerastore Год назад +7719

    Thanks for visiting us in Finland, Destin! We were happy to show you the lovely Finnish summer and what we do to keep film cameras alive. These machines deserve love and we're happy to provide it. (-: - Connor

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling Год назад +155

      It is wonderful to see you preserving all those incredible machines.

    • @JaniOllikainen
      @JaniOllikainen Год назад +116

      Was like.. is that Finnish guy speaking English and apparently yes. So Torille! :D

    • @pasipulkkinencom
      @pasipulkkinencom Год назад +14

      Gotta pop in next week :)

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 Год назад +17

      I didn't expect this kind of collab

    • @ThomasGabrielsen
      @ThomasGabrielsen Год назад +35

      For some strange reason I've never heard of you before. I love what you guys are doing and I will share this video with my photography friends, of whom I have many.
      Greetings from Norway!

  • @ethanbauer8147
    @ethanbauer8147 Год назад +1976

    The hype I feel when I see that *Destin* just dropped a video about a machine that I never even considered needed to exist.

    • @Ste_Brit
      @Ste_Brit Год назад +17

      It’s Destin but yeah

    • @Rastamanas
      @Rastamanas Год назад +2

      Totally

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Год назад +34

      For what it’s worth: I believe the vast majority of the machines in the world are ones which you had no idea they needed to exist.

    • @ben_hell4437
      @ben_hell4437 Год назад +7

      I know exactly what you mean!

    • @smartereveryday
      @smartereveryday  Год назад +247

      For what it is worth, I feel the same excitement about this thing

  • @CameraRescue
    @CameraRescue Год назад +840

    Thank you so much for the visit Destin! I am amazed how your drill happened to have the right spinning ratio for the Ketchuponator 3000 to be so close to the real thing! - Juho

    • @tapio_m6861
      @tapio_m6861 Год назад +19

      Hienoa työtä, mahtava video! Pitääpä joskus käydä tutustumassa teidän liikkeeseen kun olen Tampereella.

    • @benjaminshropshire2900
      @benjaminshropshire2900 Год назад +6

      What is it about interesting people from Finland and throwing number on the end of everything? ;0)

    • @outandabout259
      @outandabout259 Год назад +18

      ​@@benjaminshropshire2900 it adds a coolness factor 5000 to the name!

    • @motosk8er2
      @motosk8er2 Год назад +4

      That's why he added more lines. So the speed would work.

    • @b0rd3n
      @b0rd3n Год назад +2

      @@motosk8er2 yes yes but... to match so closely... i know its all maths but has he just winged it or did he sharpied his calculatron-o-meter.

  • @de_anubis
    @de_anubis Год назад +834

    As a german it was really interesting reading those pages. Thank you for the insight in this old technology. To figure out all of that mechanically must have been stressful! :)

    • @ivoryas1696
      @ivoryas1696 Год назад +12

      Yuno c:
      Yes, but _endlessly_ fascinating.

    • @TheAlkly
      @TheAlkly Год назад +5

      😀 Totally agree! (Stimme dir zu)

    • @tommymaddox6785
      @tommymaddox6785 Год назад +11

      It is the physical expression of mathematics, there was more coupling of physics, math, and engineering in those days.

    • @soulrobotics
      @soulrobotics Год назад +18

      I worked for a german company for 12 years and I loved!. I loved the philosofy of "fail safe" and then an american corporation destroyed it. It is a petty, because I love the West, the freedom we used to have and the things made for ever. Now i have an old radio repair shop... to survive. The profit alone is not good.

    • @LutzTeichmann
      @LutzTeichmann Год назад

      @@soulrobotics bless you internaut. irgendwann kommen immer bessere zeiten. Habe hier ein altes Nordmende Fidelio stehen. Klingt noch 1a.

  • @chiefwiggum1987
    @chiefwiggum1987 Год назад +7

    5:13 for the interested people here. The translation of the top part in the manual:
    Adjustment and check of shutter speed
    Continuation of page 14
    The slit shape of the shutter needs to be wider on the lower frame edge compared to the top. The drum images (see Abb.19.1) show the progression. If the spring cylinder of the first shutter curtain is tightened then the slit shape on the bottom will be widened, if released it will be narrowed.
    Images of [Abb.19.1]

  • @jacobmcgovern3753
    @jacobmcgovern3753 Год назад +462

    As a film photographer, I cant tell you how long I've been waiting for an answer as to how camera shutters were calibrated before the modern age! Thanks Destin- Great video as always!! :)

    • @harbirnain
      @harbirnain Год назад

      An age where machines could be timed to the millisecond IS the modern age. All that's happened since then is electronics. The early 20th century was an orgy of technology and technological progress. People were flying, for crying out loud. Across continents. It's funny that people have forgotten how far out it was that homo sapiens had started fricking flying. The first half of the 20th century was Very Very Modern. We're now in the post modern era where just writing code creates god powers.

    • @christopherbiomass7155
      @christopherbiomass7155 Год назад +2

      I always wondered that too. And it was really interesting.

  • @bdcheung
    @bdcheung Год назад +243

    I never even considered how one would calibrate mechanical shutter speed. Totally blew my mind -- thanks Destin!

    • @meneldal
      @meneldal Год назад +1

      You could use a standard light and film developing time and compare the brightness but it is very fiddly and hard to get right.

    • @mstrdiver
      @mstrdiver Год назад +2

      Brian - as a diver taking underwater photos before the GoPros were available, we had to guess at mechanical shutter speeds and boy could you waste a ton of 35mm film before one came out even using U/W strobes and light systems. Destin gets into some things that are buried in my wheelhouse, that's for sure.

  • @jaketus
    @jaketus Год назад +100

    From the first thing Ari said, I identified him as Finnish, the accent of Finns talking English is so distinct.
    Greetings from Tampere!

    • @skyefarnan2311
      @skyefarnan2311 Год назад +2

      Yes one of my favorite accents, up there with northern Irish accent

    • @juhotuho10
      @juhotuho10 Год назад +6

      the finnish-english accent is so distinct from others that it's hard to miss once you know what you are looking for

    • @CyclingGeo
      @CyclingGeo Год назад +3

      @@skyefarnan2311 Can’t say I’ve ever heard anyone say they enjoy the Finnish accent. Nice to know there are fans out there.

    • @PeperazziTube
      @PeperazziTube Год назад +1

      One of the things I've always noticed is that Finnish men have very deep voices. Unrelated to this clip, I've met many Finnish men who can drink a lot.

    • @CyclingGeo
      @CyclingGeo Год назад +7

      @@PeperazziTube We don’t have much else to do here haha.

  • @frost8077
    @frost8077 Год назад +185

    I never even questioned how to mechanically measure milliseconds before. I never even knew that those circles on record players had a function.
    These are best types of videos to go with morning coffee on a day off work. Waking up to learning something I didn't know I needed to learn.

    • @seenbelow
      @seenbelow Год назад +3

      I remember watching those markings on the side of the player, kind of mesmerized by them. Never knew what they were for!

  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday  Год назад +128

    If you bought a camera from KameraStore.com/smarter I’d love to know what you got.

    • @stevenpam
      @stevenpam Год назад +8

      Haha I've bought a few cameras AND lenses from there. Fast and reasonably priced shipping to Australia!

    • @Astro_Aladfar
      @Astro_Aladfar Год назад +8

      Over the years, I have bought many equipment from them, including a Nikkor 180mm f/2.8, Distagon 28mm f/2 and several rolls of film.

    • @realcrys
      @realcrys Год назад +5

      Got a vintage lens from them last year. Great experience, lens works perfectly. It's a 135/2.5, very nice lens 🙂

    • @marvinracer88
      @marvinracer88 Год назад +7

      I've bought lenses from them. Got a Mamiya C330 body in Mexico back in november, really cheap, 50 bucks but the lenses for that TLR... I ordered them from KameraStore because I knew they would be tested and would be shipped in a perfect way. Thanks KameraStore and thanks Destin!

    • @bake162
      @bake162 Год назад +2

      Well I do feel a little smarter now 😂, nice one Dustin

  • @hamradiojim6788
    @hamradiojim6788 Год назад +57

    I was the proud owner of a brand new Leica M4 camera many years ago and my dealer (I was living in Germany at the time) arranged for me to attend the Leica School, that included a complete tour of the factory. Although I don't specifically remember this test instrument, I am sure they showed it to us at some point. I was happy to see the Leica "guts" that they gave you to play with, as it reminded me of my now long gone camera. This was one of the best cameras I've ever owned. I'm glad there are people like the ones in Finland who are still appreciating these units and restoring them for people to use today. Thanks for another thoroughly interesting piece.

  • @SoundsUzed
    @SoundsUzed Год назад +206

    At least half of the enjoyment i get from watching SED-Videos is not the information itself but to watch the neverending excitement of Destin while discovering new things. Very wholesome.

    • @mydearriley
      @mydearriley Год назад

      I wish he would've gone more into the effect being utilized here (persistence of vision)!

    • @jcast25
      @jcast25 Год назад +1

      He could call a series SED Talks!

    • @Haldjas_
      @Haldjas_ Год назад +3

      Heh, growing up in east germany, SED Video or SED talks is a funny name to me for sure.

    • @SoundsUzed
      @SoundsUzed Год назад

      @@Haldjas_ Guter Punkt :D

  • @TheMightyZwom
    @TheMightyZwom Год назад +23

    As an electrical engineer I'm always amazed by how many problems can be fixed with mechanics and in what smart ways...

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 Год назад +349

    Those Germans never cease to amaze and remember that Lieca was doing ground breaking work, this was new territory and absolutely amazing.

    • @elmariachi5133
      @elmariachi5133 Год назад +13

      Sadly, they already did cease. There has been no significant innovation in Germany for at least 20 years, now.

    • @tfulookinatm8
      @tfulookinatm8 Год назад

      @@elmariachi5133 thanks to the retarded immigrants ruining our country, I doubt we will get more powerful again in the future either...

    • @Pilzmann
      @Pilzmann Год назад +14

      Yikes what a wrong statement

    • @RHYTE
      @RHYTE Год назад +5

      @@Pilzmann it's true

    • @SergioAbarca9
      @SergioAbarca9 Год назад +16

      @@elmariachi5133 Not only Germany, the whole world has sort is stagnated. Yes, we are making better and better iterations of screens, radios, photovoltaic cells, etc. But when it comes to a truly new zero day exploit we haven’t found it yet. New breakthroughs in physics have to occur for truly new technologies to arise!

  • @errhka
    @errhka Год назад +65

    This was an absolutely brilliant demonstration - the additive photo showing the stripes with the rolling shutter in slo mo just made it make so much sense!

  • @adamplace1414
    @adamplace1414 Год назад +152

    Enthusiasm is contagious and learning is the most enjoyable human activity. This is great.
    Also, years of watching F1 told me IMMEDIATELY that we were in Finland.

    • @ryangd05
      @ryangd05 Год назад +15

      u can really place accents after years of watching F1, thought it was bottas for a split second at the start lol

    • @arthurkallinen
      @arthurkallinen Год назад

      @@ryangd05 Bottas is Finn

    • @h3mb3
      @h3mb3 Год назад +3

      This is top tier race driver English, I have to say!

    • @toweri_li
      @toweri_li Год назад +3

      @Adam Place - That's A.K.A. "Rally English".

  • @ebola831005
    @ebola831005 Год назад +135

    As an amateur photographer, I am always wondering why a film camera can act a millisecond-timescale shot, and how to caliberate the mechanical shutter. This video answers all the questions. It's amazing and fascinating that people developed those techniques in 1930s. Thanks for your informative video. I'm so happy to be smarter today!

    • @paulstewart6293
      @paulstewart6293 Год назад +1

      During the 20s and 30s, most of our machines were imagined or being developed. Normal people take about a hundred years to understand mathematical concepts and apply them. We aren't stupid but there has to be a utility.

    • @nobnobnobnob
      @nobnobnobnob Год назад +1

      I think the shutter of a film slr and digital slr still works in the same principle. If you set it 1/200 of a second, the film will be exposed to light only on 1/200th of a second, which is the same with a digital sensor

  • @pantheis
    @pantheis Год назад +20

    I have almost no interest in film photography, and even I can't help but get excited whenever you post a video on this topic. Amazing presentation, as always! Thank you for sharing this with us!

  • @joshcee3362
    @joshcee3362 Год назад +51

    This was a really interesting video, Destin! I now want to repair cameras in Finland...Thanks Patrons for helping him make this!

  • @Subanator
    @Subanator Год назад +103

    The advancement of technology over the past century is freaking crazy. I love seeing where a lot of our current technology evolved from. Great video Destin!

    • @Noah_7s
      @Noah_7s Год назад +7

      We can't even imagine where we'll be in another century

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk Год назад +5

      Aliens. History Channel dude told me.

    • @LolSho0orTs
      @LolSho0orTs Год назад +3

      @@Noah_7s we will be back to swords and horses .

    • @Noah_7s
      @Noah_7s Год назад +1

      @@LolSho0orTs that’s best case scenario

    • @user-vp1sc7tt4m
      @user-vp1sc7tt4m Год назад

      I love the old analog tech as well.

  • @MathieuStern
    @MathieuStern Год назад +10

    Wow, We both visited the Kamerastore in Finland ! What an amazing place !

  • @stephenbeck7222
    @stephenbeck7222 Год назад +144

    Love the video Destin, especially your at home recreation with the ketchup bottle. By the way, it was interesting to see a TI-84 CE calculator on your desk. The CE model was released in 2015 as an effective continuation of the TI 81 series (which went through 82/83/83+/84+ branding with various upgrades), all of which used the same processor, the Zilog Z80 that was released as a consumer chip in 1976. The CE is the first model in the line to get a new processor, the eZ80 that was released in 2001. So TI went from a 40 year old processor to a 14 year old processor…and now 8 years later they still sell that calculator for basically the same $100 price point they have been selling for decades. Could be a good topic for a video, I don’t know.

    • @thoraudio2848
      @thoraudio2848 Год назад +3

      Boo TI.
      HP 4 lyfe. or, in RPN:
      Lyfe
      4
      HP

    • @hansangb
      @hansangb Год назад +3

      HP41CV or go home!!! 😁 Once you go RPN, you never go back!

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude Год назад +3

      Had a TI84+, loved it, but when an Android phone that costs less than the calculator, running an emulator, running the calculator OS, works better and is a better UI... you might want to reconsider your price point, TI 😅

    • @sidgar1
      @sidgar1 Год назад +8

      I would suspect that certain college campuses REQUIRING students to own one for math class (and not allowing anything else) might have something to do with the artificial pricing and outdated hardware.

    • @AllAmericanGuyExpert
      @AllAmericanGuyExpert Год назад

      Back in the day, it was:
      HP - about 70% (mostly 11C, 32S, etc.)
      TI - about 20%
      Casio - about 5 or 10%. The Casio apparently outperformed the TI in a few categories
      I thought this breakdown was pretty interesting, especially since I had a relative who was a TI employee and fanboy. I know I owned a TI, but never used it as it was not reliable for fast calculations. The 30-series of the TI was way more influential than the 80-series until later.

  • @TheCrashcore
    @TheCrashcore Год назад +30

    As a german, I'm kinda proud about all the stuff we invented in the past.
    I just love the mechanical engineering behind this.

    • @gownerjones
      @gownerjones Год назад +1

      Hey, not trying to be rude, but I'm curious: Why do you feel any kind of kinship with the people who invented this? The only thing we both have in common with the people who invented this is our nationality and it's not like being German gives us some sort of higher power that allowed those people to invent these machines. So I don't really understand this whole thing about being proud that you happen to have been born in the same country as the inventors and scientists that came before.

    • @ironcrown2383
      @ironcrown2383 Год назад +6

      ​@@gownerjonesIs that not enough, being proud of what someone else who lived in the same country as you has invented. If your brother or someone you've gone to school with accomplishes something great, wouldn't you feel proud to have gone to the same school as that guy or lived in the same house? Its something that connects you to that person

    • @Thunderbird1337
      @Thunderbird1337 Год назад +3

      @@gownerjones Why are Americans proud of being Americans? It's the same thing. Basically you can't be proud of something you haven't achieved, but was simply given. But still people (no matter which nationality) tend to be proud of being part of a social group, no matter if it's an achievement or not. Or being proud of "your" football team that has won a match, although you are not part of the team at all. It's the feeling of being part of social group that is better than other groups. I guess that's an evolutionary thing. By the way, the whole professional sports thing is living from this phenomena. People identify themselves with their team as if they're part of the team, and feeling superiority over others when their team wins.

    • @gownerjones
      @gownerjones 11 месяцев назад

      @@mickeyslaven Looks like I struck a chord with you. I think my country is the best country in the world. How is that demoralizing? I just think pride is a weird emotion to feel about being a nationality, or for a complete stranger's achievements. If you feel demoralized because I have a slightly different opinion than you, you probably need to visit a mental hospital.

    • @gownerjones
      @gownerjones 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@mickeyslaven Except I am. And I'm not just white, I'm a native German, born and raised. But that doesn't fit the narrative, does it? You seem to be stuck in a disturbingly deep ideological hole and I doubt you'll ever get out of that. But I'll say it again: I love my country, I think it's the best country in the world. But that's a feeling of contentment, happiness, gratefulness and kinship, not pride. If that's enough for you to immediately shut down, boot up your ideological firewall, and accuse me of propaganda, even to the point where you think you know my skin color because of it, then you're well and truly lost to the world of free thinkers.

  • @LeicaCameraGlobal
    @LeicaCameraGlobal Год назад +6

    Great video and very well explained! We've still got some of these devices in our workshops 😉

  • @SutherlandBoswell
    @SutherlandBoswell Год назад +63

    I love seeing you dive into these deeply technical bits about how cameras work! I had never considered the non-linear speed a spring would move the shutter. This also is a great demonstration of why cameras can (traditionally) only sync with a flash up to a certain shutter speed. Once the shutter speed is high enough that the rear curtain starts closing before the front curtain is completely open, the flash does not stay illuminated long enough to cover the entire frame as it is exposed. That opens up so many other topics like how flash duration is measured, T.1 and T.5, how the capacitors discharge at different power levels will affect duration, how leaf shutters work, and how modern high speed sync works. Once you start trying to use flashes to compete with sunlight it starts getting tricky!

    • @vonscratch
      @vonscratch Год назад +1

      Would love to see an episode related to this episode and also involving flash photography. Basically explaining to me, some of the stuff you mentioned here and why/how correct flash speeds work!

    • @prakashcj
      @prakashcj Год назад +2

      These mechanical camera shutters are truly feats in miniaturised engineering. Some implementations of the 'cloth shutter' had a window that was pulled across the shutter opening by ribbons across the top and bottom, a tiny brake to slow it down a bit as the shutter reaches its home across the opening. Later more updated designs had titanium shutter blades - between 4 to 6 of them travelling vertically in order to use faster shutter speeds with high speed flash guns.
      Older flash guns could operate at 1/60th of a sec., and more modern flash guns would operate at 1/250th of a sec., and the need for the shutter to travel a shorter distance, much quicker as well, hence the vertical 'guillotine' shutter. Fascinating engineering and fully mechanical too 🙂

  • @marouka99
    @marouka99 Год назад +21

    Love this Destin! One of the reasons I love playing around with older technology is because its a testament to the ingenuity of old inventors and engineers who lacked much of what we currently have

  • @HardhatRussian
    @HardhatRussian Год назад +117

    Fun fact: This is also how turbo-prop engines are balanced to their propellers, very similar tech :D

    • @ThorDyrden
      @ThorDyrden Год назад +25

      you remember, that these old engineers where able to sync machine-guns with the propellers? So the gun would fire through the gaps - not the best use-case - but stunning anyway. 😲

    • @breadloafbrad
      @breadloafbrad Год назад +5

      @@ThorDyrden yeah I think the trigger was activated by the timing gear so there was physically no possible way for the pilot to accidentally cause it to hit the prop

    • @DABrock-author
      @DABrock-author Год назад +8

      @@ThorDyrden Another fun fact: Those guns that were set up to fire through the propeller weren’t actually running in full-auto mode. They were set to semi-auto, one shot per trigger pull. But as BreadLoafBrad said, the engine was pulling the trigger so it was still quite fast.
      The split-second timing required for this also required using guns that fired from a closed bolt, like the Browning machine guns and various Maxim derivatives, such as the Vickers MG. Open bolt designs like the Lewis have cycle times too variable for reliable synchronization. That’s why the WW1 era fighters that used the Lewis had them mounted to the top of the upper wing, firing over the prop. (/gun nerd)

    • @PeteZam
      @PeteZam Год назад +4

      @@breadloafbrad wow thats crazy, they had the gun shoot and the bullet would travel through the gaps of a spinning propeller? i had no idea

  • @Pilledskin
    @Pilledskin Год назад +1

    Been a client of kamerastore since a couple of months now. For being a finnish store their prices are very much reasonable. Greetings from Italy!

  • @ansleylobo8917
    @ansleylobo8917 Год назад +6

    Your raw energy and enthusiasm to all these subjects is really contagious. I love watching every new video

  • @vincentsumner5232
    @vincentsumner5232 Год назад +118

    Your ability to make us feel your passion about things that we didn’t even know existed before we clicked on the video is amazing! Thank you for everything you’ve introduced to all of us to. I love you so much!!

    • @MrTerduckin
      @MrTerduckin Год назад

      I noticed you could see the holes in the peg board (I think) when he does the slow mo on the camera initially.

  • @tricky98
    @tricky98 Год назад +23

    Whilst I love the deep dive stuff, it’s these type of video, where something unexpected gets Destins child-like curiosity going, that are defiantly the jewels in the collection. You can feel the excitement as he understands what is happening, and then hear the cogs spinning as he works out how to explain it to the rest of us.
    Brilliant!
    Thanks Destin - Please keep them coming :)

  • @MrTheblackopsdude
    @MrTheblackopsdude Год назад +90

    Destin always answers the questions I didn't even know I had, but I'm always amazed at what I learn

  • @drew657
    @drew657 Год назад +10

    Every time I learn about midcentury analog engineering, I’m amazed at the puzzle pieces they put together to achieve the things they did.

    • @fukkitful
      @fukkitful Год назад

      Yes, how they designed the internal of early semi-auto rifles has always been fascinating to me.

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf Год назад +2

    The manual is nice to read. Such easy to understand diagrams, such clean sketches of the camera it self, and a well written text.
    How nice would it be if we actually got good manual again and things would be repairable.

  • @8paolo96
    @8paolo96 Год назад +18

    As long as there are people like Destin showing us on RUclips this amazing things I know this social is not doomed like all the others right now

  • @johnabbottphotography
    @johnabbottphotography Год назад +6

    As a photographer of some 30 years, as soon as you said the phrase "persistance of vision", I was excited to see what was within.
    So much fun. Thank you.

    • @bsc4344
      @bsc4344 Год назад

      Same. Not a fan of the term bokeh like I am of more proper Circles Of Confusion... wonder if he ever looks into the math and calculates some for us in a vid some day.

  • @wazowski489
    @wazowski489 Год назад +5

    out of all the photographers i follow on social media, Destin is the only one that itches the engineering aspect of photography that i can’t get over and i LOVE it, keep up the wonderful work !!

  • @mboom86
    @mboom86 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this video! I just got into analog photography and it's so fascinating, how they made these high precision machines back in the day, completely mechanical. Thanks to @Kamerastore for keeping this wonderful craft alive!

  • @c.augustin
    @c.augustin Год назад +17

    I knew about this machine and how Leica cameras were adjusted "back then" - but I did not know how it works. I think this is even better than the usual electronic measurement, as you can also see if the shutter works inconsistently (like having one shutter curtain catching up or traveling with varying speed). Absolutely cool!

    • @rsc9520
      @rsc9520 Год назад +1

      It's amazing!

  • @brandonbraquet6176
    @brandonbraquet6176 Год назад +24

    It never fails. Something I think will be boring, Destin make interesting and exciting. Thanks for the great content!

  • @AlexSmith-gt4oy
    @AlexSmith-gt4oy Год назад +43

    Not even into cameras but one of the coolest videos and best explanations you’ve made in awhile! Love your stuff Destin! Can’t wait to see the baseball cannon again!

  • @2zz98
    @2zz98 Год назад +1

    Mechanical solutions are like poetry as they are complicated and elegant at the same time.
    There is something really honorable about keeping those marvels alive in a time of cheap throw-away tech.

  • @Clancydaenlightened
    @Clancydaenlightened Год назад +1

    5:08 i can read it and know how its supposed to sound, but i still gotta get a translation, i can make out some of the words, something about the size of the slits compared to shutter speed and how they get wider and smaller, pretty much the gist of it anyway

  • @Peronioz
    @Peronioz Год назад +5

    I love this channel.
    From your enthusiasm about every single subject you tackle, to the level of dedication to the science, to the clear intention of making everything completely understandable to everyone, no matter the level of schooling.
    Even the little psalm you add to the end of every episode, always pertaining to the subject. It all speaks volumes about your love for what you do.
    You are inspiring.

  • @kstarler
    @kstarler Год назад +10

    Hey Destin, in a convergence of interests between video series you've done, this video put me in mind of Theodore Roscoe's book Pig Boats (about submarine warfare in World War II). In the section, "Submarine Photographic Reconnaissance (Nautilus with a Candid Camera)," - on page 272 of my 8th printing copy from September 1982 - it is described how the cameras issued to the US Navy for periscope reconnaissance weren't up to the task. However, the lieutenant commander of the Nautilus had a German manufactured Primarflex camera, which proved so effective that the model became standard issue for future periscope reconnaissance during the war.

  • @EisenFeuer
    @EisenFeuer Год назад +63

    I liked the part where they did the thing

  • @thoughtful_criticiser
    @thoughtful_criticiser Год назад +5

    Destin, you have featured two of my all time favourite cameras. A Leica and Hasselblad, I couldn't afford either. I had a full Bronica SQA system which cost me £12,000 new. Had I bought it in Hasselblad it would have been three times that. I also used a Mamiya 6x7 with the bellows body, it was great but my 5"x4" land camera could do everything I needed. My ex sold my Bronica SQA system, I wasn't happy. When I discovered what she got for it I was fuming, she got £600 for the three years old system including my Elinchrom flash lights. She didn't find the boxes with my darkroom in them.

  • @Basicproaudio
    @Basicproaudio 11 месяцев назад

    I just watched this video with my kids and I saw immediately what was happening. I use a strobe tuner to tune my musical instruments. It's based on the same visual mechanics, combined with audio waves. It's the most accurate way to tune. I love it. Thanks for doing what you do!

  • @MaxRomantschuk
    @MaxRomantschuk Год назад +15

    As a fan of your videos Destin as well as a KameraStore customer and a Finn this was a very wholesome video about the things that can be done even with vintage technology. 😊

  • @kendog0013
    @kendog0013 Год назад +92

    From the insane giddiness in every video when Destin learns something new to the bible verse at the end of the video... there is always just something special about SED videos and im entirely grateful for your channel Destin. Thank you Destin and to all the Patreons! One day, I too hope to support you in what you do; teaching everyone that there is ALWAYS a way to enjoy something you never even knew about!

  • @ziggystardust4627
    @ziggystardust4627 Год назад +9

    My dad had a Leica camera, and I played around with it (and dropped it once), not knowing what an incredible piece of engineering I held in my hands and played with! I remember seeing that rolling shutter in action. It's unfortunate that his Leica equipment is not in our family, but I'm hopeful that they went to people who properly appreciate them! That's more important than me having a "trophy" in the back of the closet.

  • @joulesinwatt
    @joulesinwatt Год назад +1

    Very nice persistence of vision animation at 9:42. That's when it all made sense to me.

  • @dudeman8323
    @dudeman8323 Год назад +1

    This is a great video for me, my great grandfather held several patents with Kodak. When my grandmother was alive, I got free tours of the Eastman house and other facilities in Rochester. I have several Leica cameras/lenses as well as slides taken in the 30's and I am piecing together our family history with these.

  • @johnlueder5556
    @johnlueder5556 Год назад +20

    the German Handbook looks very specific and mentions everything, even the diameter of the screwdriver you should use 😂

    • @octane613
      @octane613 Год назад +7

      It's German, I would be shocked if it didn't include that kind of minutiae

  • @twalton
    @twalton Год назад +6

    Thank you for coming to Finland! The people at that store are a great example of what you'll find all over the country - humble, kind, generous people. So glad to hear you had a great experience here. 🇫🇮

  • @Jacobel27
    @Jacobel27 Год назад +5

    I regularly use stroboscopic imaging in my research, so this video was especially fun to watch. Thanks for another great video Destin!

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall Год назад

    4:20 (lol) watch that thing open up frame by frame (using the < and > keys when paused.... if ya didnt know)
    .
    pure mechanical bliss

  • @10secondsrule
    @10secondsrule Год назад

    Guys are truly blessed with what they do. It doesn’t get much better than loving your job. If you need to work this is.

  • @ericmarcucci8213
    @ericmarcucci8213 Год назад +5

    Génial !!! J'ai adoré cette vidéo et pouvoir voir le fonctionnement de l'obturateur. Je suis toujours impressionné par l'ingéniosité des anciens !

  • @interstellargreenbean
    @interstellargreenbean Год назад +4

    This is why I'm a patron. This stuff is awesome! Keep bringing us fun concepts that we never knew we were interested in, Destin!

  • @Veem2
    @Veem2 Год назад +3

    Thanks for a really nice video. I love your enthusiasm for the genius of the Leica camera and their special shutter servicing equipment. It is a great observation that it used separate forms of technology and visual phenomena to work. It is nice to know that there is a group of folks keeping film photography equipment alive. Thanks again!

  • @shtopfl5247
    @shtopfl5247 Год назад +1

    Sick technique 😄👍🏻 my people 🇩🇪 are brilliant greetings from Germany

  • @kevinhoward1574
    @kevinhoward1574 Год назад +1

    Fascinating, great video! A couple of additional things I'm interested in are (1) how do you confirm the mechanical machine is actually measuring 1/250, 1/500, etc. without modern instruments, (2) once it appears a camera's shutter is out of adjustment, how is the camera fixed? All of these analog adjustments are so interesting - spring tensions, speed of the revolving cylinder, etc.

  • @chrisggoodwin777
    @chrisggoodwin777 Год назад +3

    I had a little chuckle. When I loaded RUclips, and the video started its preview, the subtitle read, "(speaking in Finnish accent)" instead of transcribing the actual spoken words 😂 this was a really cool video, and to think the measurement technology is close to 100 years old is absolutely fascinating.

  • @niklaskoskinen123
    @niklaskoskinen123 Год назад +10

    Literally after the first words coming out of his mouth: "Ah I see, a fellow Finn."

  • @AustinChick1000
    @AustinChick1000 Год назад +4

    I love electro-mechanical stuff so much. This makes me happy that this exists

  • @TheSylfaein
    @TheSylfaein Год назад

    The 'Zauberwort' for that old machine is frequency.
    When i worked at Dreiha (HVAC manufacturer), we used a similar device to measure the rotation speed (rpm) of their electric heater units:
    Mark a blade of the rotor with a dot and switch it on, point the device's light at it and adjust the frequency of the strobe light so that the dot
    seemingly stays in a steady position, exactly like you explaned at 9:55. Then you can read the rotation speed on its "display".

  • @doorstampyellow
    @doorstampyellow Год назад +1

    You can also see dark strobe lines by releasing the shutter in front of a fluorescent light bulb. If you measure a new or just tuned camera, you can somewhat easily compare the strobe lines that show up on an older camera that may need a tune up. I got this from a Leica technician in Germany, when I worked there.

    • @emilyadams3228
      @emilyadams3228 Год назад +2

      The same thing happens when you shoot an old TV at anything over 1/60 sec. Analog TV works at 60 frames/sec, so faster speeds register the black stripe between frames. Anything slower than 1/60 doesn't, for the same reason that a focal-plane shutter that has an electronic flash sync speed of 1/60 sec will expose less of the film at faster speeds, and all of it at slower speeds.
      If you've ever seen home movies of a TV, you'll see the black stripe flicking across the screen. That's because 8mm and 16mm film runs at 16 frames/sec. The stripe is blurred because the shutter speed of the movie camera was 1/30, and it's out of sync with the film (60 fps on 16 fps film), which is why you see two stripes, moving upward across the TV screen, and they're curved, just like the lines in the test video.
      My granddad filmed the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in 1964, for my mom, and I always wondered why it had those stripes on it, cos I didn't see them when I watched the TV. I first saw the film in 1968 (age 3), and since we didn't have any intertubes then, it wasn't until 1975 that I found out. My granddad built a darkroom that June, and I asked the owners of the camera store about it.

  • @2dmossholder
    @2dmossholder Год назад +3

    You should talk about the constant speed of the curtains. Horizontal curtains such as these cameras have a flash sync of 1/60 and vertical shutters have a flash sync of 1/125 or 1/250. Love the video!

    • @petercrary5411
      @petercrary5411 Год назад

      I agree. It might be worth noting that this method can be used to determine both the curtain speed and the curtain separation.

  • @alans585
    @alans585 Год назад +4

    This channel was one of the big reasons I got into film photography as a mechanical engineer, and I absolutely fell in love with it. Please keep the camera content coming, there are so many incredible engineering problems that were solved with simple mechanical systems to be explored.

  • @calebmaddox8979
    @calebmaddox8979 Год назад +3

    This is such a cool example of rolling shutter! It's impressive how fun you can make such an informational video. Keep it going!

  • @walo3000
    @walo3000 Год назад +1

    11:53 I believe it is because the thing that spins is cylindrical, so the linear speed of the stripes, will vary like sinusoidal

  • @darktoranaga
    @darktoranaga Год назад

    It's easy to understand how this works once someone explains it to you. Coming up with it for the first time and putting it into practice is a whole other thing. This took some serious mental power.

  • @schoenae
    @schoenae Год назад +5

    Loved the video Destin! Happy to hear you visiting us in Finland! Would love to hear more of your trip and experiences you had in here! No doubt nature and sauna were included! 😊

  • @dcu21
    @dcu21 Год назад +12

    That Finnish accent. Love it

  • @morganahoff2242
    @morganahoff2242 Год назад +4

    The stroboscope principle is also used for tuning musical instruments -- turning something you can hear into a clearly visible pattern so you can make fine adjustments. You could do a follow-up video about that. There was the Conn Strobotuner, later bought by Peterson.

    • @cjgordon22
      @cjgordon22 Год назад +1

      Its also used to set ignition timing on older cars and engines

    • @morganahoff2242
      @morganahoff2242 Год назад +1

      @@cjgordon22 That's right! I remember twisting the distributor and watching the marks on the flywheel.

  • @jarethclark2470
    @jarethclark2470 Год назад +2

    I love that your excitement and sense of wonder at this amazing technique comes through on film. I really like learning about all the fantastic stuff on your channel, but your awe, wonder and open excitement is my favourite part. Thanks for being you Destin.

  • @michaelmaurer9014
    @michaelmaurer9014 Год назад +2

    Hi Justin, you are right, the curve and also the change in width of the stripes came from the springs. That says the german text above the patterns in that manual. Greetings from Austria

  • @maaltagabriel
    @maaltagabriel Год назад +7

    OH MY GOD, this is the crossover I never saw coming and never knew I needed! I love these guys! Now I need all sorts of content with them about repairing old cameras

    • @michaeldimmitt2188
      @michaeldimmitt2188 Год назад

      Totally! I love Smarter Every Day and I love Camera Rescue! I have wanted to go to CameraRescue these last five years that I have been in Berlin (from Los Angeles)! I discovered them just after we moved here and wanted to work with their German rep. They did a Berlin event but I wasn't here at the time! I would love to do some kind of monthly clinic where people could bring in their old cameras and we could help them use them, get them repaired so they could use them, or sell them to someone who could use them.

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 Год назад +12

    The camera you're using is incredible, the fact you're able to simulate the effect in real time is insane, what an awesome video!

    • @potatofuryy
      @potatofuryy Год назад

      The high-speed camera? Yeah it’s really quite cool

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 Год назад +4

    Without the advent of modern transistors, it's always fascinating to see how high levels of precision are achieved with relatively simple mechanical systems. Also, it's interesting the shutter rolls right to left on the film cameras instead of top to bottom like modern CMOS cameras, but I suppose that just made the shutter mechanics simpler and easier to package into the camera body.

    • @danosdotnl
      @danosdotnl Год назад

      Super interesting indeed, I only use reflex cameras and never realised the viewfinder cameras (or 'mirrorless') used this 'curtain' as a shutter

  • @AP-RSI
    @AP-RSI Год назад +3

    I knew the KameraStore before and wanted to offer them a few older lenses for sale some time ago, but never got around to it.
    But nice to see the store directly. They really seem to be having fun with it!

  • @serxhiorira4715
    @serxhiorira4715 Год назад +1

    always amazed when i was a kid to see the car tires roll backwards due to aliasing

  • @Ca7iburn
    @Ca7iburn Год назад

    Love the word play in the name! Kamerastore -> Kamera/store -> Kame/rastore -> Camera restore/Camera store. Not sure if that was intentional or not, but it is fitting 😄

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 Год назад +5

    I love Destin's enthusiasm, the pure joy of discovery. 🙂🇦🇺

  • @snakedoktor6020
    @snakedoktor6020 Год назад +5

    Another excellent video Destin! Love them all.

    • @MovingThePicture
      @MovingThePicture Год назад

      16 min video commented one minute after release?

    • @snakedoktor6020
      @snakedoktor6020 Год назад

      @@MovingThePicture I'm prescient, what can I say.
      I wasn't wrong, was I?

  • @UncleManuel
    @UncleManuel Год назад +5

    It's funny to see "rolling shutter" like this explained. In our modern digital world we mostly have forgotten where certain technologies come from... 😉
    Also funny: as soon as it clicked in my head how shutter speed is created and how the shutter moves I did notice the curves in the calibration images - and I intantly realized that some speed ramping is involved. It totally makes sense since the mechanical shutter is released and is accelerated by spring pressure. I started shooting photos on a DSLR in 2002 so this old tech is very interesting to me how it actually works. 😎🤟

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 Год назад +2

    OMG did this ever bring out my inner nerd! Loved this from start to finish - thanks SO much , Destin!

  • @evellior
    @evellior Год назад

    This guy is genuinely the best content creator. Shouting out someone simply because he believes in them, plus refusing to take an affiliate link cut and asking them to instead pass that cut onto us (in the form of covering shipping costs).

  • @ColtonRMagby
    @ColtonRMagby Год назад +9

    The way things used to be done continues to impress me. Millisecond accuracy from a person is ASTOUNDING!

  • @96oscarC
    @96oscarC Год назад +4

    For little boys without dads, who grew up to be engineers. You were the role model alot of us needed. Thanks Destin.

  • @OfficiallySnek
    @OfficiallySnek Год назад +56

    Drawing lines on ketchup bottles to explain something? Ah, the age-old tradition of turning condiments into a visual aids

    • @nayhem
      @nayhem Год назад +1

      The Brits and Germans didn't experience as much success due to the wildly varying shape of mustard jars.

  • @dopehr
    @dopehr Год назад

    met your channel today at veritasium video from 7yrs ago (the syncing vid) and i've seen you alot in his vids but never knew you had channel. your channel, your projects and you are precious. this video was also amazing. please never stop. big big love from iran. GL Destin ^_^

  • @Seimstudios
    @Seimstudios Год назад +2

    Over 20 years as a photographer and over a decade as a photography teacher and history student and never seen this explained. Thanks.

  • @rhr-p7w
    @rhr-p7w Год назад +16

    When Destin accidentally dropped the stripped camera mechanism I quietly yelled NOOOOO to the screen. Then I realized how much I care about Destin's work and well being.

  • @rocketfuel8037
    @rocketfuel8037 Год назад +6

    I always assumed the reason the later leica m added the backdoor feature was just to ease loading the film (you had to custom cut a 10cm long film leader for the i, ii and iii cameras). But it makes more sense when you see how they would have to completely disassemble the camera body of the earlier iii cameras to access the shutter for simple calibration and why they might want to just open the back instead. Pretty cool!

    • @Adrian-wd4rn
      @Adrian-wd4rn Год назад +1

      Not entirely the reason....You still had to disassemble the camera to fix the speed.

    • @rocketfuel8037
      @rocketfuel8037 Год назад +1

      You are correct. I suppose my point was that it was not necessary to disassemble the camera to simply check if the speeds work. Us engineers account for many factors in determining a design. Whether an intentional effect or not, a technician (in theory) could test the speeds, rangefinder coupling and other features then proceed with disassembly if required rather than disassembly by default. That is a simple change in the process which likely saved hours of work considering how many cameras might require testing.

  • @OverTheVoids
    @OverTheVoids Год назад +6

    Not gonna lie, but this guy's accent made me almost immediately think that he is Finnish.
    Edit: 3:47 Confirmed!

  • @DannyPops
    @DannyPops Год назад +2

    This is such an incredibly challenging concept to visualize in a video but I came away feeling like I really understood this after it!!! Amazing job.

  • @mikehaas543
    @mikehaas543 Год назад +1

    My favorite camera is the A-1 also! I have had it for 3 ish decades. I bought a lot of lenses for it when their prices dropped as auto focus SLR started to take off. I remember my dad teaching me how to use a full manual Olympus 35mm range finder, back when I was in elementary school in the early 80. Now I know a place I can sell some or most of my camera collection to since they repair and resell them and they can have a new life. I really enjoy your excitement and content. Keep up the good work!