The Doom of Paragon - The Rise, Fall and Rebirth of a MOBA
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Paragon was a third-person multiplayer online battle arena video game developed and published by Epic Games.
At the height of the MOBA craze when practically every major developer was trying to wrestle a piece of the market from the likes of Riot Games and Valve, Paragon's development team was given free rein when making the title.
Unfortunately, a series of issues both in-game and on the business end between Epic Games and Tencent led to the demise of Paragon before it could really take off.
For most titles that share such a fate, this would typically be the end of the story, but for Paragon a group of passionate developers took action to restore the beloved game and gave rise to its second coming.
This is the story of Paragon.
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Nothing has come even close to filling the hole this game left in the scene. In it’s prime, it was fantastic
Agreed
This and gigantic
I mean there is Smite and Overwatch which are both similar. I agree though that Paragon was better.
@@nathaniels9141 Stop saying Overwatch is similar to Paragon. If anything, Smite and Battleborn are similar to Paragon. Overwatch is not a MOBA, far from it.
@@zakwankhidzir Bruh, Overwatch is a Moba. Lol
It's a dumbed down simple Moba but it's still a Moba.
Rip paragon, the only MOBA I ever liked.
same qq
Smite is pretty similar just old with ugly graphics, has potatoes for servers and has an Item shop.
Gigantic tho
Tried league. No thanks.
Tried smite, no.
Paragon? Yes please
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 shit you're right, gigantic was also tight
I’ve genuinely never felt more like a company has turned their back on a game more than when epic shut down paragon. I was so invested in the game and played it every day. Now it’s just a memory
I had Gideon and Murdock masteries I still miss it.
They shoveled everything into Fortnite and that was it lmao.
@@TigerTT I love paragon but from a busines point you cant deny fortnite made a stupid amount of money but its a shame they shut down paragon the other day I saw my little brother playing fortnite and i saw an animation im 100% was reused from paragon I saw it and got good memories from seeing kwang attacks I hope predecesor launchs soon.
Revenant, twinblast, iggy and scorch, wraith, kallari😞😞
Bro I use to be on for hours and didn’t notice vgs chat if they had audio chat too omg this game had so much potential
I think it's the first time I see a "Rebirth" on these Rise and Fall videos
I remember the forums. There was a specific post that stuck out to me, from the devs. They were asking about ways the community wanted to improve the game. Everyone and their mother was screaming about reverting the card system.
Nothing happened.
I firmly believe that Paragon didn't just die. It was killed off.
I liked the deck system
I liked the initial deck system more than the last version. 3 cards? That is basically only 3 items. It was bad.
@@JPieTv As someone who played during it, it was awful. Especially since the game balance was basically ripped apart for no apparent reason.
My friend had a beta code that he sent me and we played a bit before it went open beta. I think it was like RIGHT when Faye was released.
It felt like open beta is when the game started to get less fun. It seemed like all the changes up until its death were them trying to appeal to league and dota players instead of building their own game.
Def killed off Im telling you fortnite did it we use to talk to devs daily even see then in lovbys
I didn't even know there were successors to this game. That's great news.
Predecessor is the one to keep your eyes on! It is shaping up to be something special.
But u should explore theyre other copies of it to see which is better for you to decide.
"Fault", "Overprime", "Predecessor".
My eyes are tearing up just from seeing the title. it was too young to die :(
I really got my refund converted into Vbucks lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know mate. It was definitely one of my favorite games
i got your vibe too my guy i got it too...
Imagine, just started playing these game back then and 2 weeks later their shutdown announcement, yeah, sad :")
I remember seeing it and being really interested but I had a bad pc at the time. Was really bummed by the cancellation
I started seriously playing around december 2017.. the month or 2 after that they announced funding stopped and servers were closing april. LMAO
Wow thatsbpainful
This was my absolute favorite game. I played it whenever I possibly could, and the servers closing broke my heart. I miss the gameplay, the mechanics, the characters, the graphics, the verticality, and the card system (before its last rework).
I moved on to other MOBAs to try and recapture that magic, but it just isn't the same.
Sir, have you tried the community iterations like Predecessor?
@@GustyforEminem Have you? Been trying to get in for a while
@@nahfam360 no, I haven't
@@GustyforEminem then why did you ask lol
Yeah facts man , you couldn’t of said it better
This MOBA helped me get over a heartbreak. I had some fantastic times with it. I literally cried on the day servers shut down. Another thing is the reveal trailer for PS4 somehow can be interpreted as a goodbye trailer. God I miss this game.
Damn, i miss this game. Was such a blast. The card system made it so much more unique than other mobas. It required planning and correct execution with your team. I remember me and the boys spending sleepless nights planning and playing this masterpiece of a game. Rip Paragon, i still long for you.
I was a founder of the the game. I remember following it pretty early on in development. Played from alpha until the last day. It was a game I loved and I couldn't be more excited to play the remakes. The game did have many problems but it was such an interesting experience. The vertically was amazing and made for unique gameplay. Also most of the characters had very interesting kits. Personal favorites being Wraith, Wukong, Sevarog, and Sparrow. The graphics were one of its strongest points which shouldn't come as a surprise considering it came from the home of the unreal engine. It was one of the most beautiful games I've ever played. Unfortunately I no longer have a pc to play on, but as soon as I can I'll be playing the remakes.
They did my boy Sev and Murdoc dirty by shutting the game down :(
Khaimera, Greystone, Severog, and Iggy and Scorch we're my favorites. I still hope they bring this game back.
@@andrew9194 man I loved Iggy and scorch they were, so broken for a long time the split push kings
Hey guys, we hope you enjoyed this video!
One thing we missed mentioning was the existence of Fault, a 3rd MOBA title from Strange Matter Studios, that has taken inspiration from what was once Paragon and is currently in Early Access on Steam.
Fault is a shady cash grab, not so fun and low playerbase. Predecessor will be better, other 2 might be decent but my money is on predecessor.
@@krayzfool please explain how Fault is a cashgrab when they are in constant communication with their community and update the game every 2 weeks while making massive imporvements?
They're literally the only playable version. Preds last alpha was an unmitigated disaster and Overprime is currently being sued by EPIC
@@EmiliaB94 While I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a cash grab, SMS promised a free to play date during the indiegogo and through early access. They accepted money under those conditions - only to fail to deliver on that specific promise. This normally wouldn't be a problem, but they have not announced a new F2P date since January 2021. It's just been swept under the rug. It is a move that lacks integrity and a slap in the face to their biggest supporters, ie. indiegogoers.
The Mantra of the discord is, "that it is not ready." Which is ironic considering the state the game was released in for early access. Also there have been many games that have gone F2P while still in early access, so the mantra doesn't make any sense to begin with.
Paragon NEEDS RETURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Fault is the one that seems a scam, isn't?
Ah, I loved this game, even though I would only play it ocassionally. I loved playing as Aurora, this girl with ice powers, the gameplay felt sooo smooth after you reached lvl 6.
The green, boxing robot character was my favorite. You literally combo people to death. Super fun. Can't wait to play him again.
"my name is crunch and i like to punch"
I will never get over this game dying. It's my biggest disappointment I've ever had in gaming
same
3:46 "By a company, Tencent"
Ah, it all make sense
Loved Paragon! When my friends and I meet up we somehow always end up talking about this game, and the great memories it gave us. Really looking forward to Pred and hopeful that someday we can relive those moments of close finishes, or wild team gameplay!
Be still my heart
Lets all hold hands with a moment of silence for what once was..
You just so happened to release this during my semi-yearly period of mourning for this game. I really hope no only does predecessor come out soon, but Epic sees its success, buys it, and guides it to what it once was.
I miss paragon so much man, sniping people across the map with Murdocks laser remains a faint memory in my early days of competitive gaming
I always really enjoyed this game and had many fun months playing it. I was initially sad to see it shut down but realized that the direction they were headed wasn't sustainable.
What games did you move onto?
It is great to see these projects getting some love! To me, it seems like Predecessor has the passionate dev team that Paragon deserved without the corporate greed overhead. My hopes are high!
problem is they're turning it into a generic MOBA. paragon was special because it was different and it did those different things right. the item shop predecessor has is just wrong and spits in the face of what made paragon different.
@@Hal_142 One of the reason's Paragon's card system existed was to shoehorn in loot boxes. It was also bad for the overall game because it caused many issues like limiting build diversity. They were trying to reinvent the wheel in this regard.
I think Pred is shaping up to be what most people hoped Paragon would eventually become.
@@JPieTv it's shaping up to be a smite clone. paragon was a 3D skill based MOBA. whereas smite and predecessor are just 3D MOBAs. they didn't reinvent the wheel they just invented a tire. I never spent a cent on paragon and I had most of the cards. if not, all the ones I wanted.
@@Hal_142 It certainly is similar to Smite, but calling it a clone is a stretch. Smite has no z-axis. I'm not sure what you mean by skill based MOBA. Pred is going to have a considerably high skill ceiling, higher than Paragon had.
@@JPieTv because of the item shop. it's an artificial skill ceiling. cards were more fair because anyone could understand it. item shops are archaic unorganized relics from the start of MOBAs. not even resident evil uses tank controls anymore.
Man I miss paragon, that game was like nothing else. I hope they make the remakes at least as good as the original that's all it would take for me to install and put money under it
To be honest I miss paragon it was my favorite game when it came out I wish they would bring it back
I played paragon for 2 years on the ps4, the best part of the game was no doubt the verticality.
This is why smite could never dream of being as good as paragon. It's just a 2D over the shoulder moba whereas paragon was an actual 3D game.
Also kallari is bae
Your pfp lmao
Fellow Kallari player here, and yeah. Shinbi was my main but Kallari was a close 2nd or 3rd
Yesss kallari was so fun when fed. High risk high reward.. i dont usually play assassins or characters like that but the triple jump and invis was so fun about her. Countless times I accidentally ulted an enemy at their base and died.
@@_goodmeasure too real, when they are recalling and you ult them you're rolling some serious dice
@@bryangamer4027 I preferred the original kallari ult that was a high damaging execute dash
Thanks for this, had no idea any revival was taking place! Played it a lot back in the early days, will be following those new projects intently.
Have fun!
I miss this game SO much. Easily my favorite game of all time. I was gutted when it was canceled.
Broke my heart when it shut down. I didn't even get to see it off on its last day.
This game was awesome I had so much fun with it. I randomly stopped playing it back when it was still up. One day I remembered it and went back stoked to play again only to download it and see it was gone ☹
I remember playing this game when I was young. Had no idea how to play but I wish it was around now so I could really experience it
I played Paragon and the reason I think it will stand out is the 3D aspect and the map. High ground, juking around trees and mountains, getting lost, traversing the terrain, having an enemy pop out of the bushes or fall on top of you from a nearby cliff, all of these things you experienced in Paragon that you never would have felt in other Mobas. I think if they doubled down on the map to make it even cooler, the game will be able to compete with all of the other Mobas.
This Video almost made me cry. When someone asks me about my favourite games, I will to this day mention Paragon. It will be in my heart and remembered by its community forever.
Paragon?
More like *Paragone.*
I'm sorry.
Predecessor and Overprime are both set to enter Early Access this year.
And huge news for Overprime, they have permission from Epic Games to use the Paragon branding, so the title was changed to Paragon: The Overprime
My dad and I used to play this game more than Id like to admit. Like... A LOT, had so much fun with it. Glad to finally see a video about it
Cannot explain how happy seeing other people who feel the same as me makes me lmao
I rememeber all my siblings (5 of us all together) downloaded this game and player from a Thursday to Sunday with only a few hours of sleep in between... It was one of the best experiences of my life.
I remember the card system being such a pain in the ass to learn and get used to, but if you were able to hold your nose while walking past it, it was some of the most fun you could ever have in a MOBA. You are a real gamer if you enjoyed this.
I miss that game so much, thanks to all the people who worked on it, never had so much fun on a free game, really beautiful too, RIP
I’m not even gonna lie, I miss this game. I enjoyed it, it was hella fun and I sure as hell played it a lot before it shut down. It was definitely something different than what I usually played but if a new version of the game comes out, I will be more than happy to play it
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I put thousands of hours into Paragon... Still miss it to this day and watch gameplay vids from Ace, who's the founder of Omeda. Can't wait to play Predecessor!
Paragon was truly amazing it was the first moba I ever tried out it truly broke my heart when the servers closed
I played Paragon back then. I've always been interested in Mobas like LoL which I played for a long time.
I thought Paragon was beautiful. The graphics and engine was obviously top notch. The gameplay was actually fun as well. Because your basic attacks required aim and skill was involved with that. The game felt like a better and improved "smite". I did like the card system for what it was despite the numerous flaws but agreed it was confusing to new players.
I was sad when Paragon felt like it was stuck in beta and eventually knowing that it shut down.
I miss this game so much it hurts to even try a think of a game that comes close. My heart goes to all who tried their hardest with this big ups the community
They revived it. Now it’s called Predecessor
My buddy and I still talk about this game. We were there since the beginning, on the OG map, when characters got speed boosts from the base, with the original card system, when Murdock threw traps on the ground, and when Iggy was OP with his flame turrets. My buddy was a long-time LOL player and my first MOBA was Smite, but we both agreed that Paragon was the best MOBA either of us ever played.
We hung in there through the reworks, the map change, the card changes, the nerfs and character reworks. We were sad watching our favorite game slowly decaying while the devs tried to figure out whatever they were figuring out. When Fortnite was released, my buddy and I both bought it since it was made by the same studio, back when it was just a Zombie/base defense survival game, before it was a battle royale, and it was....underwhelming to say the least. We ditched it pretty quickly and were just happy to have Paragon. I never in a million years would have thought that Fortnite would have taken off and left Paragon in the dust.
When I received the news that Paragon was done, I nearly cried. It felt like such a slap in the face that they offered to convert my money spent into Fortnite Bucks. I of course opted for the refund instead. I've heard about the Paragon remakes and I have a little hope that one of them will be able to recapture the magic. I am glad I have the memories of playing Paragon during its prime. What a game.
I miss Paragon so much! It was one of the greatest games I've ever played!
This game was so fucking good. I played from launch till they shut it down. I miss it so much. The character were so dope, very diverse and unique. I wish this game didn’t fail.
When i tell you i loved this game to no end. I was there day one till the last day he was live. Serath, i miss you dearly.
I was around 14 and remember playing a hero that would gain stacks of HP5 on every basic attack, i quickly realized there was no cap so i farmed minions and constantly building and refreshing the stacks until i saw a player and literally stood in their faces, it got so ridiculous that i could wipe the entire team completely alone and completely stock by just holding down RT and forward
Khaimera
I never played this game, but someone I used to watch a ton, BlueWestlo, absolutely loved this game. When I heard it was shutdown, I always had a lingering regret of never giving it a try.
I remember playing this game almost every day on my old ps4 and then one day after school it just disappeared off my console. I miss this game I used to play the paladin and the robo dude with two guns.😢
Played it beferore any of the "every 3 weeks a new hero" where released. Its a moba, not a shooter or action game. You need to aim but its equaly difficult to click on stuff in leaque. I thought every AA was non tracking but it doesn't add significantly to the complexity or required skill.
The bigest thing is the perspective, it reduces your awareness and allows for fun stuff like less movement speed while walking backwards. If you like mobas and actiongames/shooters you might prefer paragon over other mobas, if you don't like them you probaply won't like paragon.
>The bigest thing is the perspective
But Smite exist
I wish I saw this
Saw gameplay and it looks fun
You couldn’t have played before the new hero every three weeks as it was like that at the start of early access and there was initially no backwards movement penalty. Sounds like you got into the game much later than you think.
@@shush2415 I remember being confused by it and it being changed to include it, but not sure. I don't remember how many heros there where when I started but sevarog (mentioned by a redit thread to be the first hero released) wasn't in the game yet.
Edit: looking back at my mail: aperantly i played during the closed testing phase and stoped after the first hero was released in the open beta.
Even after 4 years, I can still confidently say that paragon was the best moba I have ever played.
I remember watching some streamers play it early early on and thought it looked dope. Was excited to see more but then literally never heard of it again
I really wasn't expecting that narrator switch and I really liked it. Used to watch your video about GOATS on loop because of the narrator and the way you guys scripted the video.
I loved Paragon. For a long time it was my favourite game. And I was truly sad when it was cancelled. It did go through a bit of ups and downs and had couple large changes but it was very enjoyable to play. When I heard that Epic had released the Paragon assets I was extremely happy and have been looking forward to the successor games.
OG paragon before the small map was one of my favorite games of all time. I would give anything to go back and just play the OG game.
I miss Paragon so much.
Once they created the new map it was downhill. Every large change they hoped would push the game really just took away from it's identity.
EDIT: Wow, I never knew about the Tencent thing. Makes sense now though.
The game went downhill coincidentally as soon as Wukong was introduced. i remember they had a 6 week interval between releasing new characters like crunch and countess. i aint bad mouthing wukong he was cracked, but yes you are correct as well with the map thing
😭onm i miss paragon sm. I never got good or even decent at paragon but u had a hell of a time playing it.
This is single handedly one of the best games I have played in my entire life and I have other gamers that will second and third that notion. I truly believed this game was dumbed down in order to plateau it into not getting to the point of being the equivalent of Smite. Steve Summerville if you’re reading this, do it again plssss….
I spent hours just figuring out the cards and how to get better was soo fun feng mao was my fav character with that teleport slash
Paragon was the reason why I bought a 4K monitor in 2016. Love and miss this game... will look into the reworks
I never got to play the day I learned of it. The devs shut it down after I downloaded it about say a week later. I was bummed though, the game seemed so attractive. Glad someone has revived it, into something that I hope will be great
i never forgot about this game even though i never kept up and was new for 2 months before getting taken down, it hurt to see it go on the day I logged in, but knowing we have a chance is bring tears to my eyes knowing moba's are going placess
I loved this game when it came out but my pc barely run it. It was so well done, even the card system didn't bother me. I keep seeing people every year talking about the future of the game so i guess there's still some hope left. I'd give up every other game to have this one right now man... :(
Thank you for this concise summary on the history of Paragon! I love this game when it was active and it was the moba that got me into this genre, although league still never fill that hole for me. I look forward to when Predecessor becomes playable again!
Honestly I really enjoyed playing Paragon on the ps4, I really liked the character 'Crunch' and had a blast playing it. Much more fun than any time I've played League of Legends
Paragon was the best ever moba i ever played,it had everything great card system,mods jewels,fun gameplay,unique character abilities
I ran into this game while looking for character reference images. The game was already dead when I found it, but I wished with all my heart i'd be able to play the games that are attempting to revive it. Crunch was the character that introduced me to the game, btw. Personally, I'm interested in what Predecessor will do for it. It also seems to be the farthest worked on, other than Fault, but Fault's not free, so...
All I gotta say is if Crunch ain't there, I'm not coming.
I really miss Paragon, this game was so much fun.
AKSHON. Thankyou for the video you made. THUMBS UP. 👍👍
The unreal series needs to comeback
Paragon legacy days were by far my favorite. It has left a huge void and I don't think I've managed to replace it by any other game so far.
I am impressed with Tencent's craftiness. Using their influence, they drove the game into the ground. I wonder why Epic games let Tencent buy up 48% of the company?
That's actually just how most markets work unless there is regulation or other systems in place to prevent it, the bigger businesses use their size to drive out the smaller businesses in their industry to then have an even bigger share of the market. It can be as direct as just buying them like this but we also see it with things like Walmart opening stores at a loss in order to starve out all the local stores that can't compete with their low prices on everything.
It's coming back as Predecessor on the epic store
Fantastic video! Just to clear the air as well, Ethereal is not a Paragon successor. Instead, the team behind Ethereal is creating their own 3D MOBA from scratch!
There’s a reason I’ve had this Pfp for years now
I stopped playing because of the constant reworks on the card system. I’ve had multiple decks for each character and I put so much time into crafting each one. The constant changes and wipes to all the hard work I put into each deck was what killed it for me 😢
I still can’t believe I was able to get full refunds on all the skins I had purchased. That was pretty great of them to do
Rip my homie revenant. No other moba had a character that felt anywhere near as satisfying to play
don't make me cry bro 😭
My boy kwang has no one similar and it makes me sad
@@BetterCallKahl I feel you brotha
paragon was my most fav game I remember when I was 6/7 yrs old I would wake up open my PS4 and play paragon those where very good times
I was obsessed with it as soon as it was released, it really broke my heart when I heard the announcement ☹️
I along with many others loved this game. It was approachable and engaging for beginners and complex and difficult for veterans of the game. It introduced me to MOBAs and other MOBAs have felt so lukewarm ever since. The third person shooting, map complexity and verticality all felt so right. Paragon didn’t die, it was sniffed out. The business model wasn’t as profitable as a battle royale (and the cosmetics to go with it) was.
Paragon’s cars system was one of the best things! I would spend hours making decks for multiple champions
Phantom Dust, this game is a Phantom Dust Spinoff with a twist. PHANTOM DUST (MTG MOBA) Never Forget R.I.P. 2005
I played Paragon back in the day. there was a special kind of Magic in the game play of that game the combat was Beautiful and stunning to be apart of. The champions were so cool and bad ass and their designs were just plain beautiful. When they announced it was dying a little part of my gamer soul just went poof but seeing that there's a chance I could play it again even under a new name... It brings a tear to my eye. Hope returns and I pray that I can have just one more chance to play it again in my lifetime.
0:22 Smite is Dominating in that MOBA Hybrid.
God, no one knew this existed and ever since it dies people been one it. I genuinely hope that the post-mortem interest in it will help it’s successors along and help them ever even see the light of day.
Stoked to see it back, the game was too good to be left on the cutting room floor
This game got me through high school. The third person 3d combat mechanics were unrivaled in quality.
I shed tears thinking about this game.
Same, i wouldn't be in jail now if they didn't shut it down
As an avid Paragon player and content creator (at the time), it was very difficult to see the announcement of its shutdown. I knew Predecessor was in good hands when I saw that ACE is one of the top three leading development. Now, more than ever, I continue to look forward to a day in which I can continue to play the game I was once so wrapped up in. Paragon would have been a Strong contender in the realm of MOBAs and perhaps would have won over the audience of its largest competitors in time.... I guess we'll see what the future holds.
It was the best MOBA i ever played. iggy and scorch i miss u :(
At least they offered all the models and stuff for free to use with the Unreal Engine.. I loved this game.. really wish it survived
I was heartbroken to see this game die, so to see it’s rebirth is so exciting, I can’t wait to try it again
I remember seeing this game and thinking it looked so cool but I didn’t have a PlayStation, didn’t know it was so special to people
This game gave me so many memories damn I kiss this game
to anyone that wants to play predecessor: htey started stress testing the servers today, it's on steam
The one thing I absolutely want them to bring back was the sprinting mechanic of the game. Nothing ever felt more good for me than to run in there at blazing speeds, getting ready to go in there and get in the fight. And given the fact I always played Steel, being able to sprint in there and use my ultimate from said sprint made it feel even more amazing. Everything felt good with that and ever since they took that away, it never felt really fun for some reason anymore. The characters always looked amazing but something felt wrong with the game at some point in terms of gameplay and system mechanics. I hope one day somebody manages to revive this and give us something back that was taken down too early.
I cant wait for predecessor cuz I really loved Paradox when it came out and I was so confused when it dissapeared
The only moba I really played continuously. I will definitely be playing predecessor.
When I first downloaded Paragon when it released I instally Loved it. No moba have feel the same since.... Still waiting for a Replacement.
Still remember using the Tank Warrior dude and Build him FULLY TANK (Health and Defense) I literally could do 1 vs 5 and they couldn't kill me no matter what 😅 (Literally compared to other mobas this tank is like 5-10 times more TANKY)
Omgggg, this game! I can believe it's 5 years old!!