I love Original trilogy beacuse that was star wars first realese I love prequel beacuse "Its over anakin i have a high ground" obi wan. Sequel, no thanks
That's the problem with good actors. Robert Downey Carrie Fisher Hugh Jackman They play their characters so well that they make it impossible for someone else to play that character. They leave BIG shoes to fill.
At least Iron Man and Wolverine have a long history with a lot to pull from. Nobody can get away with playing RDJ and Jackman's versions of those characters but I could see someone pulling off a different take. You don't have that option with characters from the original Star Wars films. Well unless you're playing the character at a significantly different age or state than the original actor ever got to play them like Ewan McGregor.
Saberian Dream but atleast the prequels has a good story of joy executed the best yes dialogue was bad at times but it was in the originals aswell they’re not as flawless as fanboys believe and revenge is easily one of my fave films. That said the Eu and old republic books were amazing and I enjoyed reading them as much as watching any of the films. The sequels are a disgrace add nothing steal and copy from the Eu and the ot and shit all over it with their ot reboot rehash parody crap
I'd like to add the fact that its theme is "the gods and heroes you worship are fake. They will become as pathetic as you and die sad and alone. not caring about the good and the bad is the only way to live happily. Become apathetic. Apathy is life." Look at how the rebels act at the end of the film. they're so delusional and obsessed with heroes that they forget to mourn the fallen rebels that died that day since there are now enough rebels to fit in the freakin millennium falcon
One of my friends’ parent said it best, I think. We were watching endgame together and the Lucasfilm logo came up on screen for the pre-movie ads He said “you know, there was a time that we would all clap when we saw this; now... we just sigh and say ‘oh, god’”
@@saberiandream316 I mean Rogue One *is* a Prequel, so of course it's better than the sequel trilogy. Same goes for Solo (the BEST of Disney's Star Wars movies by far, though I haven't seen Rogue One)
Rogue one has character development issues. I only ever cared about the robot and the blind guy. When a robot has better character than the majority of the cast, i find that to be a problem. Other than that, great film.
Thought Rogue One was average. Didn’t see why they needed to make a prequel to Episode IV when we would’ve been totally fine without it in my opinion. Plus there were some wasted roles such as Forest Whitaker’s. I only watched this for Donnie Yen.
Eu I loved as much as the ot and pt films. Reading the stories of the new republic and the galactic civil war between characters like jaina jacen Mara jade thrawn kraut and Tahiri veila was amazing. The Eu is amazing I don’t care what anyone says
Am I'm the only one who really Despise Surpreme Leader Snoke? Plus Am I'm the only person who prefers both Original and Pre-Qualls than today's Sequels.
I didn't like Snoke, because A. There is no real effort into making this guy different from the type of character Palpatine was. He comes off as Diet Palpatine. B. We never found out who he is or how and why he was able to take over the First Order or how the fuck he even knows who Vader is. And C. We never found out WHY he wants to kill Luke Skywalker outside of "Jedi" are Good Guys and will ruin my plans.
Look I'm a big dragon Ball fan. And I'm also a big Star wars fan. I think Disney screwed up last Jedi. Dragon Ball and Star wars. There was one difference between them. The creator was there with dragon Ball. But not with Star wars. That's why Star wars episode 9 doesn't matter.. Because you have a corporation tell you how Star wars works. And we both know better as fans. How Star wars really works.
I don't agree, but not for the reasons you may initially think. I think people give George too much credit. Guy has good ideas, he brainchilded Star Wars and the man should get some respect for that, but a lot of the stuff that people love about Star Wars from before TCW and The Disney Buy out weren't George's ideas. Mara Jade, Aayla Secura, Thrawn, X-Wing Book series, KOTOR, Hell George's original idea of the First Sith, Darth Ruin, almost clashed with the KOTOR timeline as it contradicts the origin of the Sith as a Dark Jedi called Darth Ruin, which they had to fix as a resurgence of Sith that led up to the Bane Rule of Two Sith. George also made changes for the worst like Korriban is now Morraband because Korriban apparently sounds too much like Coruscant. Basically imagine how much people dislike Dragon Ball Minus compared to Bardock Father of Goku but done much more frequently. So I don't really subscribe to the though of "Being the Creator" means all your ideas are golden. I mean the guy isn't Tolkien.
It’s was supposed to be about Luke! All I wanted was to see Luke use a lightsaber and we didn’t even get that. The lightsaber fights are just way too sparse too. There’s nothing really jaw dropping about this trilogy and it doesn’t earn anything.
Just hope that Disney learned their lesson and realize if they are going to do a trilogy from the start that they need a direction and have one director or multiple directors on the same page
Arian Bustamante he doesnt like fan servive in db cuz they rely on it to carry the plot instead of creating an actual compelling plot. Star Wars recently however has a plot and lore that doesnt get explored at all. And the fan service he wants isnt as unreasonable as DB fans creating so many transformations and fusions for no reason.
Arian Bustamante and also, with a movie franchise, you’re supposed to give the pol what they want cuz sumn like this the consensus is usually the same for everyone, we want the same things. Its like the MCU, endgame was good fan service, it was everything MCU fans wanted and more
Zero consistency, why wouldn't they write it out properly? I'd like to see them delve into the old republic territory, so much potential. Would be perfect for getting away from the skywalkers.
Getting away from the Skywalkers? What kind of shit is that?? The Skywalker saga was going to continue whether you wanted it to or not, they made sure that people were aware of this too.
But you can't argue that it wouldn't be good. I say make it a series, maybe the mandalorian wars? Or how about following the creation and foundation of the old republic?
I don’t think Force Awakens will be looked as a failure Last Jedi on the other hand will be looked at as a failure hopefully rise of skywalker is good tho
Both movies are good looking pieces of garbage, Harrison Ford is the only one that makes the movie tolerable, and at first Rey is fine but then becomes crazy over powered and just learns how to be a Jedi from thin air, Poe doesn't get enough time in the film and then one moment of Luke smh Disney Star Wars has been a failure from the beginning with the exception of rebels and rogue one
TFA was a solid B+ IMO. Played it safe and executed well, but didn't introduce anything that new and memorable. TLJ gets a D, and that's being generous. If RoS gets in the B range or higher, I'd be willing to say that the trilogy was passable as a result.
The problem is like Geekdom said, is that Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm staff had no plan for the sequel trilogy and don't really understand Star Wars. The reason why the MCU is so popular is because Kevin Feige already had a plan when Iron Man came out and because he was a fan like all of us he wanted to get some ideas from the comics but also new ideas to please the fans and the directors did the same thing.
Had they just adapted the good parts from legends and had the OT cast together again for a scene at least, maybe the sequels wouldn’t have been this much of a disaster.
I would definitely be down for Legends being it’s own continuity and being expanded alongside Disney Canon, everyone wins in that scenario the way I see it.
No matter what happens no matter how good or terrible future movies get we now have to accept the reality that the sequel to RotJ we always wanted is now dead and can never be made. To Disney, this is the sin you must carry forever. Throw all the money and talent you wish but you're going to have to accept that you had it all and you squandered that chance. And that chance will never come again, you have lost...
The thing I hate the most about these movies is Rey. She has no weaknesses and is basically perfect, she's always there at the right moment and has no sort of relateble character traits. She legit could've have been replace by a Taiwanese monk and It wouldn't have changed anything to the plot or the main story. These movie have other flaws but Rey was the most prominent in my eyes
Hey Geekdom! I was wondering, why have you not talked about Godzilla King of The Monsters at all on your channel, especially with it slated to be released at the end of this month. It’s getting a lot of hype, it’s got a good amount of first reviews claiming it to be good and even great. It’s probably going to be the 2nd best film of this summer right behind Endgame. Are you just not a Godzilla fan?
I never hear people talk about how the sequel trilogy sucks because there is no fundamental story. The last Jedi had no fundamental story that’s fundamentally why it sucked. So the trilogy is already ruined because the previous two movies are almost like two stand alone movies with the same characters in them. Just make a damn good story with compelling characters lol that’s all they need.
I was around to see the original trilogy in theaters. The hype was like nothing I had seen as a teenager and this was many years before the internet and cell phones. It was a fun and crazy time. I haven't known any movie to reach that level of unexpected and sudden popularity since. Episode 4 was released a second time at least where I lived, I don't know if it was nationwide and the lines were still long. People were wrapped halfway around the building.
Yeah, we never see Anakin be a hero. Its not like we see him sungle-handedly blow up a trade federation starship that saves countless gungans, go rescue his mom (even if he was too late), go rescue Obi-Wan when he's in trouble, fight in the Battle of Geonosis, take on Dooku by himself, rescue the Chancellor while carrying Obi-Wan on his back, and land a flaming, plummeting wreckage of a ship safely to Coruscant's surface.
I think The Force Awakens as a STANDALONE film/movie is good and entertaining, but when you think of the film in terms of a sequel or a follow-up film/movie, I can see why many fans do NOT like it at all and think of it as a piece of crap. The Last Jedi is just straight up BAD and full of plot holes whether you think of it as a standalone film/movie or a follow-up. It's sad to see how they wasted so many opportunities with this new trilogy. The prequels are VERY far from perfect, but at least they didn't do the damage to the saga the way the ST did-- And the PT is honestly really entertaining, specially ROTS.
Dude. You can’t say a TRILOGY is a failure if you’ve only seen two movies. If I had no Episode III and had only seen I and II, I’d say the same of the Prequels.
And it wasn’t greed when Lucas was in charge? Star Wars has been about selling merch first and foremost since the early days. I’m a huge fan but I can admit that. Nothing at all has changed, people are just hypersensitive in the Internet Era. As for perpetual hope, well isn’t that one of the primary themes of our beloved space-opera in the first place?
Rogue One is the only Disney/SW film I actually LOVE. Its my 2nd favorite Star Wars film of all time and Ill defend it till the day I die. Such a great film. Gareth Edwards should be the guy getting more Star Wars content out there. Id be surprised if he's not at least a consulting producer for the Cassian tv series, its his character. Gareth would be great to direct Green Lantern Corps film. Get him more projects! Rogue One is an underrated, amazing film!
The fact that we won't get a cohesive trilogy in the end is what pisses me off the most. I've come to appreciate some things of TLJ and I definitely still love TFA, but, whether I choose the Abrams side or the Johnson side, I'll never be able to enjoy a trilogy that tells a coherent story split in three parts. About Luke, you know, I don't regret that he wasn't shown as some super powerful Force wizard. He never was the most powerful. He didn't surpass Yoda or Obi-Wan in terms of power. He did surpass them in terms of wisdom and moral authority, and that's the trait of his character that was betrayed. He shouldn't have been remembered as the most powerful Jedi ever, but as the BEST Jedi ever. Which is not the same thing.
I’ve been saying this for a bit now, but I’ll say it here... if Episode 9 is as bad as 8, I’ll completely disregard anything Disney has done despite what they say. MY CANON, will be the original trilogy, the prequel, and the EU/Legends. Because at least Luke was an absolute badass there.
I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with them making a Star Wars movie that is an adaptation of a popular comic or novel. DC, Marvel, and pretty much every other movie studio has made movie versions of popular books, so why can't Star Wars do the same thing?
Disney has been making failures repeatedly. They just make movies for the money and it sucks that they will continue to bring the money in despite there being no heart to anything they do in their movies. It pisses me off! Greed really does win out in the end...
I really enjoyed The Force Awakens, Rough One was pretty good, The Last Jedi isn't the worst ovie I've seen, but it isn't good, I haven't seen Solo, because I really don't want to (but i will before The Rise of Skywalker), and I feel like The Rise of Skywalker has the potential to be at least as good as The Force Awakens. I'm not a hardcore fan, but I have fond memories of the past, and it's a shame to see what Disney has done to the franchise, because of, as you said, the lack of direction.
Eric Ford the sad truth is that people get old and characters move on. We can never have Princess Leia, Han Solo, Luke again. It’s a shame we can’t have stories like that again but the character arcs can be fleshed out better
I’m honestly not too mad not seeing the original 3 together all I wanted was a good Star Wars sequel trilogy. I believe (ALMOST) any concept can be great if given the right hands to make it. Disney Star Wars as a whole (not just the movies) is a tremendous let down.
People who used to be prequel haters have loosened there views on them because of everything these movies and company have done. Also when I was younger I never understood how older people did not like the prequels until i watched these sequels and was like ohhhhhh I finally get it.
I think it’s a huge matter bc of timing like they couldn’t make a movie taking place even like 10 years after Jedi bc the main cast was too old to pull it off safely. They would’ve had to have been made like around the time of the prequels being made. So no matter what, Disney or not, films made past the original trilogy are just meant to be doomed.
Its worse when you try to tell a sequel fan about how badly written this trilogy is and all they will say to you is “rey is one of the best written characters in the series” “sexist” “luke and anakin were mary sues too” “you act like the prequels are any better” now disney is pulling out all the bullshit and even possibly bringing palpitine back which if its not s flashback or memory than this movie is definitely gonna shit all over the OT unless its clone palps from legends which even then makes disney look bad because they only took legends down to take stuff from it whenever they need to
The problem is that they did not respect the original characters how they should have nor did they establish the next generation correctly and got over like crotch rot.
The third movie is MONTHS away and you're already calling it a failure. This shit right here is why there arent going to be any more stand alone star wars movies or regular star wars movies for almost 2 and a half years. Thanks a lot all of you so called "fans".
@@saberiandream316 The movies not out yet is the point. I swear the internet really is a place for everyone to pretend that their group rage matters. Cause heres the funniest shit about all of this. Danny just made this click bait ass video for all of the Star Wars cryers to come here like its an AA meeting in order to talk shit about the franchise and stop themselves from jumping off the nearest bridge. Basically all of the toxic fans that will for some odd reason still watch episode 9 and the Mandilorian with no fucking problem. Its like every movie franchise has a select number of "fans" that are all stereotypical women on their periods.
I’ll forever call the Disney movies the Joke trilogy. Why? Because 7 eat 9. Yep. Shit dad joke. Also I’m just happy people don’t hate on the prequels as much anymore. Pretty good movie that capture the battles and stuff that it needed too within the limitations of movie run times. But it’s now the worse of two evils basically at this point.
Here is what I would've done with the sequels. The Force Awakens I would pretty much keep the plot the same but what I would change is Kylo Ren's personality, have him be a little more cold hearted and less hot tempered. When he meets Rey he doesn't flinch when she mind fucks him, instead he is intrigued. When they get to the scene between Solo and Ren change it to where Solo believes that he is his am Leia's son but is really Jacen, Ben Solo's best friend and brother in arms when training under Luke who posed as Ben after he died. Out of pity and guilt over what he did, Jacen kills Solo saying that he can see his son again. In the final fight Ren keeps his cool throughout and the only time Rey uses the forse it's to summon Lukes lightsaber, in combat he nearly kills her before a wounded Finn distracts him long enough for Rey to slash his face. The rest is history. The Last Jedi A lot could be changed. Luke is not in exile like everyone thinks, he is actually learning everything he can to figure out where he went wrong and is beginning to lose hope. When Rey wants him to train her he is hesitant because of his fear of failure. Among other changes Rose's role is reduced, Kylo/Jacen is actually more impressed by Rey and grows a little more arrogant. Eventually we learn the whole story: Ben Solo was sent to be trained by Luke when his parents realized his power in the force. There he meets Jacen, an orphan who Luke found as a toddler who was strong with the force. The two became inseparable but each had flaws, Jacen was strong with the dark side and struggled to control it while Ben struggled as a student in general. The two helped each other out and soon became Lukes top students. When Snoke came into the picture Luke could sense the darkness in Ben and when he was about to kill him out of impulse Jacen attacked. In that moment Luke realized that Jacen had been meeting with Snoke all along and to protect himself deceived Luke into thinking it was Ben. In the midst of the fight Ben awakens and in a panic crashes down the building killing himself. When Luke came to Jacen had destroyed everything he built and took Ben's lightsaber to make it seem like he turned to the dark side while Jacen died (hence the mask). Kylo later admits that is the only choice that he regrets. Luke goes onto explain that he believes no matter how hard he tried Jacen/Kylo was destined to join the dark side (like the antichrist of star wars, anakin brought balance to the force while Jacen was born to fuck it up). The rest of the plot is pretty much the same.
ORIGINAL TRILOGY: one of the greatest sci-fi film series EVER, absolute epic phenomenal classic. PREQUEL TRILOGY: though not as great or epic as the original, was still entertaining and fun as hell to watch. SEQUEL TRILOGY: though still entertaining and fun (barely) but I ended up having many issues concerning the story and plot lines. A bunch of things and events really didn't add up or make any sense.
The thing that pissed me off more than anything with the sequels is that what you describe and what fans wanted would have been the smart business choice of Disney, instead we got NPC politics showed down our troaths. There was a clear bias in DIsney/K.K to essentially destroy the legacy of the classical characters and the OG trilogy, beacuse in the world of hollywood politics, these heroes were not suitable for the narrative they wanted to present. SW was a great opportunity for them to take a cultural phenomena that was cherished and loved by many and then use that against them to "expose" them to above mentioned politics. In other words, the same kind of propaganda that we had around 1930's-40's, (wich is "totally a good guy move", no decrepit facists did ever do that, no sirry) Star Wars was the sacrificial lamb on the slab of these ivory tower authoritarian political elists scum. It was not a good business decision, it was not a good creative decision, but it makes sense the way they did it if the intention was to use someones elses creative labour and infect it with their own twisted version of politics. The sequles will forever be remembered as the height of our current culture war, and that these soulless assholes tried to kill SW to serve their own agenda. Hopefully this shitshow of mixing entertainment and "politics" will die out once businesses gets their heads out of their asses and stops pretending to have any sort of moral compass. If they want to make money they need to cut out the infection wich is identity politics out of their damn business models and cauterize the wound.
You have Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, C-3PO in the same movie and you don't put them on the same ship? Really? You have Luke Skywalker in your movie and THAT is what you do with him? LUKE SKYWALKER. Really?
Okay. We just pointing out flaws. This more the entire sequel trilogy problem. The planning behind the sences or the lack thereof. The reaction from Lucasfilm was a the very least questionable. I don't get what god's son has to do with filmmaking. Star Wars needs to stand the test of time. I watched the Force Awakens 50+ times. The Last Jedi twice. That's a huge shift. 🤔😏
Man dude , first game of thrones season 8 flopped and now geekdom reminded that Star Wars is going to flopped too........ and now game of thrones writers are PRODUCING A FUCKIN SERIES on Star Wars........ Man where’s Thanos when u need him like honestly😂
I'm not a fan of any of this sequel trilogy. Both of the movies we have so far suck and hand wave several issues within their own plots to progress the story. Force Awakens, how did Poe survive and what was the whole story with anakin's lightsaber? Last Jedi, why doesn't Snoke know they can track the resistance through hyperapace and how come Finn and Rose can hyperspace jump away un detected? But the biggest sin the trilogy makes is to the characters of Luke, Han, and Leia. Instead of them growing over 30 years they stayed the same or regressed. Read the original EU under Lucas. Leia became a senator, then supreme chancellor, got married, had 3 kids one of which she named after her biological father as a way to forgive him and move on, and finally she trained to be a jedi, that thing Rey has yet to do. Luke also grew in interesting ways. Her got married, had a kid, restored the Jedi order, lost his wife to his nephew who turned to the dark side, and had to work on his relationship with his son after his wife's passing. I ask you were any of the Disney characters that interesting. Hell look up Booster Terrik if you want someone Disney only wishes they could come up with to make for an interesting character.
LF took a 4 billion dollar franchise and winged it. Their hubris has brought them to this place. No plan or care. They wanted nostalgia to make money. But nostalgia is like a Big Mac. Sure it is tasty but you can get sick of it the more you eat it. Even if TRO is a good movie it isn’t going to change the issues of the ST. That this will be the most inconsistent trilogy of all time. Made by two different visions clashing with one another and no sense of harmony.
@@saberiandream316 It hAd LaYerS Of CaNoN George Lucas himself said several times that the books aren't canon. Did you even bother doing some research? It's also stupid of you to think that Disney doesn't consider making more books and comics when there have been plenty of them since 2012
My issue is that Episode 8 was such an important part of this trilogy and with how bad Disney and Rian Johnson made that part of the story, they have no other choice but to end it with cheesy fan service. Still gonna see Episode 9 but this will forever be a trilogy of what could have been... Love your continued analysis on the sequel trilogy Geekdom!
It all sucks but I do hope for a Anakin and Luke interaction in 9. That will at least keep me invested in Star Wars. My interest took a hit with the direction of 8 and what they did to Luke. I did enjoy 1-7, R-1, and Solo.
I just want to see Luke Skywalker fighting more than 3 sith at one time. Or maybe fighting an entire army. Heck I want to see Anakin fight like 5 jedi masters at one time, instead of reading books about it.
@@saberiandream316 Nah forcing yourself to be limited to very specific periods of time with mountains of "canon" is the same as severing creativity. Also only Empire competes with VII and VIII
@@saberiandream316 The MCU also ignores Marvel canon and does its own thing. Also you're ignoring hundreds of novels and the fact that basically all of Luke's life and his children's lives are accounted for
Even if Luke's motivation was the same, the script is poorly written. The Last Jedi is filled with unlikeable characters and I can still feel the fuck you to fans.
I love Star Wars. As a kid I watched the prequels then the original... freaking love them... the games... the toys... the lore all of it.... I hate the new trilogy. I wasn’t a fan of episode 7, but was like ehhhh they can’t fuck it up... it’s Star Wars... then movie 8 came out and ... well ... fuck
Honestly I feel like they should let 20 Century Fox or some other movie studio do Legends Movies in animated form similar to Spiderverse and contract Dark Horse and Delrey to continue Legends books. So they can have their own continuity and us older fans can have our original continuity. I feel this would at least give the more bitter (And I don't mean this as an insult) fans who don't like the new canon a new avenue. Also it increases the most important thing for them more money to make. I mean it works for Marvel what with their X-Men and MCU stuff. Then they can do games and cross over material featuring Legends and Canon characters similar to the mobile games. Because honestly I never liked the new movies (Outside of the spinoffs and The Mandalorian is peaking my interest), because I was always bitter they got rid of the stuff I liked like Luke's Jedi Academy, Thrawn, and the Solo Twins and X-Wing Series for THIS?! But I understand that there are people that like the new movies and the new characters.
Solo made money? That was one of the most expensive films ever produced PLUS all the money put into marketing, where did it get out of the red? It failed in projected dvd sales as well, much below what was needed to put it into the black..idk about that statement you may want to research it
I still enjoyed the prequels. Of course it will never be as good as the originals. The prequels still gave us some good stuff. For example the Phantom menace had a lot of problems, but still gave us a darth maul. Who was an awesome villain, and the fight with him, quigon(idk how to spell it) and obi wan was epic.
Also, it was clear LF wanted to remake the OT but knew they couldn’t due to backlash. They put agenda and a lack of planning instead of cohesive storytelling. And they’ve got fans but this is a Pyrrhic victory. TLJ won the battle money wise but lost the war in terms of long run consequences.
Can you do us a favor and stop saying TLJ ruined Star Wars? We understand if you don't like the movie, but stop saying that this film is a cancer on the franchise because for _most, not all_ Star Wars fans, they liked or loved this film. Thanks again, Danny.
the Sequels are a creative failure in all sense of the word. I LOVE TFA. I think TFA despite it's flaws set up potential, you all remember the hype for TLJ and the theories. I miss those days. TFA set up potential and TLJ killed it. because Kathleen had no direction for the sequels. George at first had no direction for the OT when he made ep 4 because he intended it to be 1 film, then after the box office success he saw how people loved it and got to work making a trilogy. He saw it's success and continued. the Prequels though having many flaws still feel like Star Wars because they didn't ruin the OT characters but made them better. the Prequels even have an overall narrative and great world building. the Sequels don't. TFA set up a decent start only for TLJ to kill it because Ryan didn't need to follow any guide lines. and now Disney is trying to pull an overall story out of their asses at the last minute. ep 9 may be good, if it is it will only be good as a solo film. no mater what they do in ep 9 can't fix their trilogy. because these incompetent idiots don't know the basics of story telling. you NEED an over all story and end point your trying to get the characters to. look at the MCU. over 20 films and they knocked it out of the park with Endgame. now that they've reached their goal with the MCU interest will die down and especially because they want to make it woke. I wish George would have been brought on to help them, but they failed. it's a failure because it ruined the potential of Star Wars to continue in film, ruined the potential set up by TFA. and them sacrificing the EU was a waste because of the failure of their trilogy.
The new trilogy needed a better and more seasoned directors and producers like Josh Weahdon, Oliver Stone, Speilberg, or even a Peter Jackson, Etc, not ones easily bullied and strong creative power OR a young Director who is a SUPER FAN of Star Wars; I never agreed with the choice of Abrams and knew it was going to be a kind of reboot. These movies are strangely disjointed as if created by someone who doesn’t think Star Wars is cool or is only for boys and felt resentment towards it. Do you know what I mean?
If this sequel trilogy didn't have a death star 3 and got rid of the new republic and instead of the resistance, it was the new republic vs the first order, that at least would've been better then just whipping the slate clean and completely getting rid of the new republic which was an accomplishment from the original trilogy, the fact that the empire was defeated and that a new republic was gonna reform, but to just get rid of it entirely was stupid and repetitive, if they did this, at least that part of the accomplishments of the og trilogy would've still meant something, and it would not have been as regarded as a rip off with yet another death star, and as for the jedi still not being back I would've been a lot less forgiving cause they didnt just throw away everything from the og trilogy and rehash it, but still what we have is just the og trilogy but done way worse so whats the point
Some really good points. I loved Force Awakens and hated Last Jedi. These will have a similar feel to the Prequel Trilogy when all is said and done, imo: coming up just a bit short, and leaving a lot to be desired.
They are not failures and isn't even done. Also and most importantly the fandom expected too much and just because it wasn't what they wanted they hated on it. Sure they have issues but eps 7 n 8 are good.
Luke gave up on a kid that could turn evil when he had proven an evil adult can be redeemed. Hell, his own mother gave up on Ben, total nonsense. Even if it could be stretched that it's logical, it's still bad. There is no point to even pretend they are the "light side" if they are incapable to forgive.
Why does Luke tell Rey “You’ve been here before” when she first walks into the Jedi tree on Ahch-to? Doesn’t that imply some original idea where she did receive Jedi training? Reincarnation, maybe? 🤔
I agree, the original trilogy CANNOT be remade, it will be the absolute worst received star wars project (particularly by fans); creativity was defenatly lacking in the sequels and much more, my 2 biggest issues were that it felt it was not sticking to the original storyline like the prequels did; the effects weren't good either, tie fighters don't blow up, instead, they just get hit by blaster fire and break apart and crash, anyway, that's just my opinion though...
OG Trilogy is the best
Prequel Trilogy was my childhood and great memories
Sequel Trilogy made me go on a star wars hiatus
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carrz 44 I’m back on one though I’m playing fallen Jedi which is a way better story than these awful sequels and just started watching the mandalorian
carrz 44 they should’ve just stopped at Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.....
I love Original trilogy beacuse that was star wars first realese
I love prequel beacuse "Its over anakin i have a high ground" obi wan.
Sequel, no thanks
OG Trilogy is the best
Sequel Trilogy introduced me to the franchise and got me invested in it
Prequels made me question if I actually like Star Wars
The writers of this season of Game of Thrones are writing the new trilogy.
We should all be worried.
BlackScape If you think GOT is bad now just wait until you see who sits on the throne next week when all is said and done, it really makes no sense.
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Pod the Rod.
well so nothing will change ,they will be shit like ep 7,8,9 rofl
Anddddd they just left😂😂😂
That's the problem with good actors.
Robert Downey
Carrie Fisher
Hugh Jackman
They play their characters so well that they make it impossible for someone else to play that character. They leave BIG shoes to fill.
Spirits 2024
Indeed
At least Iron Man and Wolverine have a long history with a lot to pull from. Nobody can get away with playing RDJ and Jackman's versions of those characters but I could see someone pulling off a different take. You don't have that option with characters from the original Star Wars films. Well unless you're playing the character at a significantly different age or state than the original actor ever got to play them like Ewan McGregor.
Stealthy Octopus
Indeed
Facts man
I really loved the Prequels tbh. The New trilogy had so much potential.....
Drew O’Ryan same. Prequels > Sequels
The prequels are amazing.
@@saberiandream316 But it ain't as flashy. I still like Episode 3 the most.
@@saberiandream316 Atrocious dialogue? no, it's not the coming of the anti christ, stop exaggerating it.
Saberian Dream but atleast the prequels has a good story of joy executed the best yes dialogue was bad at times but it was in the originals aswell they’re not as flawless as fanboys believe and revenge is easily one of my fave films. That said the Eu and old republic books were amazing and I enjoyed reading them as much as watching any of the films. The sequels are a disgrace add nothing steal and copy from the Eu and the ot and shit all over it with their ot reboot rehash parody crap
When you type 5 paragraphs sharing your in depth thoughts but then hit cancel instead of comment.
...Sigh...
Then no one reads it cuz it's too long. That sucks too. But witty memes and salty toxic shit gets read because it's short.
The problem was that TLJ broke the rules of the universe and then did NOTHING UNIQUE AT ALL with the opportunity.
I'd like to add the fact that its theme is "the gods and heroes you worship are fake. They will become as pathetic as you and die sad and alone. not caring about the good and the bad is the only way to live happily. Become apathetic. Apathy is life."
Look at how the rebels act at the end of the film. they're so delusional and obsessed with heroes that they forget to mourn the fallen rebels that died that day since there are now enough rebels to fit in the freakin millennium falcon
I still find it more enjoyable than TFA.
it only broke ONE rule tho it was the breaking the ship with hyperspace. And even that was retconned in TROS. lol
One of my friends’ parent said it best, I think. We were watching endgame together and the Lucasfilm logo came up on screen for the pre-movie ads
He said “you know, there was a time that we would all clap when we saw this; now... we just sigh and say ‘oh, god’”
Aditya Shankarling damn
Prequels > Sequels
Edit: Rouge One is fu€kin great too
@@saberiandream316 was it tho? That's the first I've heard of it
@@saberiandream316 I mean Rogue One *is* a Prequel, so of course it's better than the sequel trilogy. Same goes for Solo (the BEST of Disney's Star Wars movies by far, though I haven't seen Rogue One)
Rogue one has character development issues. I only ever cared about the robot and the blind guy. When a robot has better character than the majority of the cast, i find that to be a problem.
Other than that, great film.
Yup and Rogue One is indeed a prequel lol
Thought Rogue One was average. Didn’t see why they needed to make a prequel to Episode IV when we would’ve been totally fine without it in my opinion. Plus there were some wasted roles such as Forest Whitaker’s. I only watched this for Donnie Yen.
Disney dropped the ball with Star Wars: I'm not expecting much from Episode 9.
Eu I loved as much as the ot and pt films. Reading the stories of the new republic and the galactic civil war between characters like jaina jacen Mara jade thrawn kraut and Tahiri veila was amazing. The Eu is amazing I don’t care what anyone says
Saberian Dream darth maul would whip kylo bitch boys ass in seconds here
Am I'm the only one who really Despise Surpreme Leader Snoke?
Plus Am I'm the only person who prefers both Original and Pre-Qualls than today's Sequels.
What was there to dislike about him there was barely any snoke in the movies. But palps was hard to follow.
Nightmare Trooper
I don’t care about Snoke.
Agreed
Saberian Dream
I completely agree
@@ryanmatthew05 I was hoping he do something cooler but instead he is so incredibly Anti-Climatic.
I didn't like Snoke, because A. There is no real effort into making this guy different from the type of character Palpatine was. He comes off as Diet Palpatine. B. We never found out who he is or how and why he was able to take over the First Order or how the fuck he even knows who Vader is. And C. We never found out WHY he wants to kill Luke Skywalker outside of "Jedi" are Good Guys and will ruin my plans.
Look I'm a big dragon Ball fan.
And I'm also a big Star wars fan.
I think Disney screwed up last Jedi.
Dragon Ball and Star wars.
There was one difference between them.
The creator was there with dragon
Ball.
But not with Star wars.
That's why Star wars episode 9 doesn't matter..
Because you have a corporation tell you how Star wars works.
And we both know better as fans.
How Star wars really works.
Charles Fletcher
Exactly
The Psycho Jack
Makes sense
and look how dragon ball evolution turned out without its creator!
Sean
We don’t talk about that
I don't agree, but not for the reasons you may initially think. I think people give George too much credit. Guy has good ideas, he brainchilded Star Wars and the man should get some respect for that, but a lot of the stuff that people love about Star Wars from before TCW and The Disney Buy out weren't George's ideas. Mara Jade, Aayla Secura, Thrawn, X-Wing Book series, KOTOR, Hell George's original idea of the First Sith, Darth Ruin, almost clashed with the KOTOR timeline as it contradicts the origin of the Sith as a Dark Jedi called Darth Ruin, which they had to fix as a resurgence of Sith that led up to the Bane Rule of Two Sith. George also made changes for the worst like Korriban is now Morraband because Korriban apparently sounds too much like Coruscant. Basically imagine how much people dislike Dragon Ball Minus compared to Bardock Father of Goku but done much more frequently. So I don't really subscribe to the though of "Being the Creator" means all your ideas are golden. I mean the guy isn't Tolkien.
The Saga we loved...gone it is, consumed by Disney.
It’s was supposed to be about Luke! All I wanted was to see Luke use a lightsaber and we didn’t even get that. The lightsaber fights are just way too sparse too. There’s nothing really jaw dropping about this trilogy and it doesn’t earn anything.
Just hope that Disney learned their lesson and realize if they are going to do a trilogy from the start that they need a direction and have one director or multiple directors on the same page
Pretty much this. This trilogy is consistently inconsistent because directors had differing visions of how the sequels should play out...
Saberian Dream
Same here, my friend
Saberian Dream
Eeeyup
Originals (IV-VI) = Classic Story
Prequels (I-III) = New School
Sequels (VII-IX) = Old School
Old School vs New School
Honestly, they should've adapted from the previous Star Wars AU. It would've been better then what we got.
I never got into star wars but I like listening to geekdom lol
You’re missing out. Not just movies books comics video games and animated tv shows and a potentially good live action show
Meh neither and listening to all his videos it's weird. It's like he doesn't like Dragon Ball fan service but wants Star Wars fan service.
Arian Bustamante i watched his db super reviews, and to me it seemed he wanted limited fan service done right.
Arian Bustamante he doesnt like fan servive in db cuz they rely on it to carry the plot instead of creating an actual compelling plot. Star Wars recently however has a plot and lore that doesnt get explored at all. And the fan service he wants isnt as unreasonable as DB fans creating so many transformations and fusions for no reason.
Arian Bustamante and also, with a movie franchise, you’re supposed to give the pol what they want cuz sumn like this the consensus is usually the same for everyone, we want the same things. Its like the MCU, endgame was good fan service, it was everything MCU fans wanted and more
Zero consistency, why wouldn't they write it out properly? I'd like to see them delve into the old republic territory, so much potential. Would be perfect for getting away from the skywalkers.
Getting away from the Skywalkers? What kind of shit is that?? The Skywalker saga was going to continue whether you wanted it to or not, they made sure that people were aware of this too.
But you can't argue that it wouldn't be good. I say make it a series, maybe the mandalorian wars? Or how about following the creation and foundation of the old republic?
Nothing can top empire strikes back
I disagree. I actually prefer Revenge of The Sith, but i respect your opinion.
Hikaru Ringdal there was so many fight duels in that movie
I'm just glad people enjoy revenge of the sith thou
Revenge of the sith.
Car salesman: *slaps Disney*
_”This bad boy can ruin a billion dollar franchise so fast"_
I don’t think Force Awakens will be looked as a failure Last Jedi on the other hand will be looked at as a failure hopefully rise of skywalker is good tho
Both movies are good looking pieces of garbage, Harrison Ford is the only one that makes the movie tolerable, and at first Rey is fine but then becomes crazy over powered and just learns how to be a Jedi from thin air, Poe doesn't get enough time in the film and then one moment of Luke smh Disney Star Wars has been a failure from the beginning with the exception of rebels and rogue one
Yea but lookin at it its just a copy and paste new hope it doesnt hold any real value since it was copied off the first movie in the series
TFA was a solid B+ IMO. Played it safe and executed well, but didn't introduce anything that new and memorable. TLJ gets a D, and that's being generous. If RoS gets in the B range or higher, I'd be willing to say that the trilogy was passable as a result.
The problem is like Geekdom said, is that Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm staff had no plan for the sequel trilogy and don't really understand Star Wars. The reason why the MCU is so popular is because Kevin Feige already had a plan when Iron Man came out and because he was a fan like all of us he wanted to get some ideas from the comics but also new ideas to please the fans and the directors did the same thing.
Had they just adapted the good parts from legends and had the OT cast together again for a scene at least, maybe the sequels wouldn’t have been this much of a disaster.
I would definitely be down for Legends being it’s own continuity and being expanded alongside Disney Canon, everyone wins in that scenario the way I see it.
Saberian Dream
I completely agree with you
No matter what happens no matter how good or terrible future movies get we now have to accept the reality that the sequel to RotJ we always wanted is now dead and can never be made.
To Disney, this is the sin you must carry forever. Throw all the money and talent you wish but you're going to have to accept that you had it all and you squandered that chance. And that chance will never come again, you have lost...
Thanks to whom is now supposed to direct future titles, the rest of the series is a failure overall.
The thing I hate the most about these movies is Rey. She has no weaknesses and is basically perfect, she's always there at the right moment and has no sort of relateble character traits. She legit could've have been replace by a Taiwanese monk and It wouldn't have changed anything to the plot or the main story. These movie have other flaws but Rey was the most prominent in my eyes
Hey Geekdom! I was wondering, why have you not talked about Godzilla King of The Monsters at all on your channel, especially with it slated to be released at the end of this month. It’s getting a lot of hype, it’s got a good amount of first reviews claiming it to be good and even great. It’s probably going to be the 2nd best film of this summer right behind Endgame. Are you just not a Godzilla fan?
I never hear people talk about how the sequel trilogy sucks because there is no fundamental story. The last Jedi had no fundamental story that’s fundamentally why it sucked. So the trilogy is already ruined because the previous two movies are almost like two stand alone movies with the same characters in them. Just make a damn good story with compelling characters lol that’s all they need.
I was around to see the original trilogy in theaters. The hype was like nothing I had seen as a teenager and this was many years before the internet and cell phones. It was a fun and crazy time. I haven't known any movie to reach that level of unexpected and sudden popularity since. Episode 4 was released a second time at least where I lived, I don't know if it was nationwide and the lines were still long. People were wrapped halfway around the building.
Is The Sequel Trilogy too much like The Original Trilogy?
Yeah, we never see Anakin be a hero. Its not like we see him sungle-handedly blow up a trade federation starship that saves countless gungans, go rescue his mom (even if he was too late), go rescue Obi-Wan when he's in trouble, fight in the Battle of Geonosis, take on Dooku by himself, rescue the Chancellor while carrying Obi-Wan on his back, and land a flaming, plummeting wreckage of a ship safely to Coruscant's surface.
I think The Force Awakens as a STANDALONE film/movie is good and entertaining, but when you think of the film in terms of a sequel or a follow-up film/movie, I can see why many fans do NOT like it at all and think of it as a piece of crap. The Last Jedi is just straight up BAD and full of plot holes whether you think of it as a standalone film/movie or a follow-up. It's sad to see how they wasted so many opportunities with this new trilogy. The prequels are VERY far from perfect, but at least they didn't do the damage to the saga the way the ST did-- And the PT is honestly really entertaining, specially ROTS.
Dude. You can’t say a TRILOGY is a failure if you’ve only seen two movies. If I had no Episode III and had only seen I and II, I’d say the same of the Prequels.
And it wasn’t greed when Lucas was in charge? Star Wars has been about selling merch first and foremost since the early days. I’m a huge fan but I can admit that. Nothing at all has changed, people are just hypersensitive in the Internet Era. As for perpetual hope, well isn’t that one of the primary themes of our beloved space-opera in the first place?
@@arbington No. He only wanted to do his movie. Don't you know that he actually lost money producing the clone wars show?
Rogue One is the only Disney/SW film I actually LOVE. Its my 2nd favorite Star Wars film of all time and Ill defend it till the day I die. Such a great film. Gareth Edwards should be the guy getting more Star Wars content out there. Id be surprised if he's not at least a consulting producer for the Cassian tv series, its his character. Gareth would be great to direct Green Lantern Corps film. Get him more projects! Rogue One is an underrated, amazing film!
I respect you so much by giving your unreserved opinion on these things.
Is Return of the Jedi better than The Last Jedi?
Yes
*HELL MUHFUKIN YES!!!*😂
I havent been involved with Star Wars since the TLJ!! Walked out of TLJ and turned my back on that universe like Luke did!!!!
Solo was good tho.
@Richard Johnson in a Galaxy far far away
The Anthology films are better than the Sequel Trilogy.
This isn't the same universe that Lucas created.
You hit nail on the head...it's about money... Disney uses movies now to setup their parks
We just dropped a documentary on the sequel trilogy. Would love to get your thoughts on it.
The fact that we won't get a cohesive trilogy in the end is what pisses me off the most. I've come to appreciate some things of TLJ and I definitely still love TFA, but, whether I choose the Abrams side or the Johnson side, I'll never be able to enjoy a trilogy that tells a coherent story split in three parts.
About Luke, you know, I don't regret that he wasn't shown as some super powerful Force wizard. He never was the most powerful. He didn't surpass Yoda or Obi-Wan in terms of power. He did surpass them in terms of wisdom and moral authority, and that's the trait of his character that was betrayed. He shouldn't have been remembered as the most powerful Jedi ever, but as the BEST Jedi ever. Which is not the same thing.
I’ve been saying this for a bit now, but I’ll say it here... if Episode 9 is as bad as 8, I’ll completely disregard anything Disney has done despite what they say. MY CANON, will be the original trilogy, the prequel, and the EU/Legends. Because at least Luke was an absolute badass there.
I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with them making a Star Wars movie that is an adaptation of a popular comic or novel. DC, Marvel, and pretty much every other movie studio has made movie versions of popular books, so why can't Star Wars do the same thing?
Its possible either they hate it because they are legends fans, hated Disney, misogynistic on women, etc.
Disney has been making failures repeatedly. They just make movies for the money and it sucks that they will continue to bring the money in despite there being no heart to anything they do in their movies. It pisses me off! Greed really does win out in the end...
I really enjoyed The Force Awakens, Rough One was pretty good, The Last Jedi isn't the worst ovie I've seen, but it isn't good, I haven't seen Solo, because I really don't want to (but i will before The Rise of Skywalker), and I feel like The Rise of Skywalker has the potential to be at least as good as The Force Awakens.
I'm not a hardcore fan, but I have fond memories of the past, and it's a shame to see what Disney has done to the franchise, because of, as you said, the lack of direction.
let's forget about this new trilogy and just erase them from the canon. start fresh
Eric Ford the sad truth is that people get old and characters move on. We can never have Princess Leia, Han Solo, Luke again. It’s a shame we can’t have stories like that again but the character arcs can be fleshed out better
I’m honestly not too mad not seeing the original 3 together all I wanted was a good Star Wars sequel trilogy. I believe (ALMOST) any concept can be great if given the right hands to make it. Disney Star Wars as a whole (not just the movies) is a tremendous let down.
People who used to be prequel haters have loosened there views on them because of everything these movies and company have done. Also when I was younger I never understood how older people did not like the prequels until i watched these sequels and was like ohhhhhh I finally get it.
I think it’s a huge matter bc of timing like they couldn’t make a movie taking place even like 10 years after Jedi bc the main cast was too old to pull it off safely. They would’ve had to have been made like around the time of the prequels being made. So no matter what, Disney or not, films made past the original trilogy are just meant to be doomed.
Just a correction... Solo lost north of $100 million
Its worse when you try to tell a sequel fan about how badly written this trilogy is and all they will say to you is “rey is one of the best written characters in the series” “sexist” “luke and anakin were mary sues too” “you act like the prequels are any better” now disney is pulling out all the bullshit and even possibly bringing palpitine back which if its not s flashback or memory than this movie is definitely gonna shit all over the OT unless its clone palps from legends which even then makes disney look bad because they only took legends down to take stuff from it whenever they need to
The problem is that they did not respect the original characters how they should have nor did they establish the next generation correctly and got over like crotch rot.
This all boils down to one word and you said it: synergy.
It just doesn’t flow.
@@saberiandream316
You could argue the originals did in one or two instances.
Do you think that, The Empire Strikes Back is better than Solo: A Star Wars Story?
That's not even a question.
The third movie is MONTHS away and you're already calling it a failure. This shit right here is why there arent going to be any more stand alone star wars movies or regular star wars movies for almost 2 and a half years. Thanks a lot all of you so called "fans".
@@saberiandream316 The movies not out yet is the point. I swear the internet really is a place for everyone to pretend that their group rage matters. Cause heres the funniest shit about all of this. Danny just made this click bait ass video for all of the Star Wars cryers to come here like its an AA meeting in order to talk shit about the franchise and stop themselves from jumping off the nearest bridge. Basically all of the toxic fans that will for some odd reason still watch episode 9 and the Mandilorian with no fucking problem. Its like every movie franchise has a select number of "fans" that are all stereotypical women on their periods.
@@saberiandream316 well technically if that true then this video his prediction and his opinion respect it
I’ll forever call the Disney movies the Joke trilogy. Why? Because 7 eat 9. Yep. Shit dad joke. Also I’m just happy people don’t hate on the prequels as much anymore. Pretty good movie that capture the battles and stuff that it needed too within the limitations of movie run times. But it’s now the worse of two evils basically at this point.
The claim in the description that the trilogy is a "flop" is factually incorrect. That term relates to box office returns - not quality.
Here is what I would've done with the sequels.
The Force Awakens
I would pretty much keep the plot the same but what I would change is Kylo Ren's personality, have him be a little more cold hearted and less hot tempered. When he meets Rey he doesn't flinch when she mind fucks him, instead he is intrigued. When they get to the scene between Solo and Ren change it to where Solo believes that he is his am Leia's son but is really Jacen, Ben Solo's best friend and brother in arms when training under Luke who posed as Ben after he died. Out of pity and guilt over what he did, Jacen kills Solo saying that he can see his son again. In the final fight Ren keeps his cool throughout and the only time Rey uses the forse it's to summon Lukes lightsaber, in combat he nearly kills her before a wounded Finn distracts him long enough for Rey to slash his face. The rest is history.
The Last Jedi
A lot could be changed. Luke is not in exile like everyone thinks, he is actually learning everything he can to figure out where he went wrong and is beginning to lose hope. When Rey wants him to train her he is hesitant because of his fear of failure. Among other changes Rose's role is reduced, Kylo/Jacen is actually more impressed by Rey and grows a little more arrogant. Eventually we learn the whole story: Ben Solo was sent to be trained by Luke when his parents realized his power in the force. There he meets Jacen, an orphan who Luke found as a toddler who was strong with the force. The two became inseparable but each had flaws, Jacen was strong with the dark side and struggled to control it while Ben struggled as a student in general. The two helped each other out and soon became Lukes top students. When Snoke came into the picture Luke could sense the darkness in Ben and when he was about to kill him out of impulse Jacen attacked. In that moment Luke realized that Jacen had been meeting with Snoke all along and to protect himself deceived Luke into thinking it was Ben. In the midst of the fight Ben awakens and in a panic crashes down the building killing himself. When Luke came to Jacen had destroyed everything he built and took Ben's lightsaber to make it seem like he turned to the dark side while Jacen died (hence the mask). Kylo later admits that is the only choice that he regrets. Luke goes onto explain that he believes no matter how hard he tried Jacen/Kylo was destined to join the dark side (like the antichrist of star wars, anakin brought balance to the force while Jacen was born to fuck it up). The rest of the plot is pretty much the same.
ORIGINAL TRILOGY: one of the greatest sci-fi film series EVER, absolute epic phenomenal classic.
PREQUEL TRILOGY: though not as great or epic as the original, was still entertaining and fun as hell to watch.
SEQUEL TRILOGY: though still entertaining and fun (barely) but I ended up having many issues concerning the story and plot lines. A bunch of things and events really didn't add up or make any sense.
How to make fans love or appreciate sequel trilogy?`
Make second sequel trilogy!
The thing that pissed me off more than anything with the sequels is that what you describe and what fans wanted would have been the smart business choice of Disney, instead we got NPC politics showed down our troaths. There was a clear bias in DIsney/K.K to essentially destroy the legacy of the classical characters and the OG trilogy, beacuse in the world of hollywood politics, these heroes were not suitable for the narrative they wanted to present. SW was a great opportunity for them to take a cultural phenomena that was cherished and loved by many and then use that against them to "expose" them to above mentioned politics.
In other words, the same kind of propaganda that we had around 1930's-40's, (wich is "totally a good guy move", no decrepit facists did ever do that, no sirry)
Star Wars was the sacrificial lamb on the slab of these ivory tower authoritarian political elists scum. It was not a good business decision, it was not a good creative decision, but it makes sense the way they did it if the intention was to use someones elses creative labour and infect it with their own twisted version of politics. The sequles will forever be remembered as the height of our current culture war, and that these soulless assholes tried to kill SW to serve their own agenda.
Hopefully this shitshow of mixing entertainment and "politics" will die out once businesses gets their heads out of their asses and stops pretending to have any sort of moral compass. If they want to make money they need to cut out the infection wich is identity politics out of their damn business models and cauterize the wound.
You have Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, C-3PO in the same movie and you don't put them on the same ship? Really? You have Luke Skywalker in your movie and THAT is what you do with him? LUKE SKYWALKER. Really?
I honestly believe they try you can rival the originals in direct story telling of the main movies
Can we get over the fucking Last Jedi already? Jesus Christ I'm so sick of hearing people complain about it
Okay. We just pointing out flaws.
This more the entire sequel trilogy problem.
The planning behind the sences or the lack thereof. The reaction from Lucasfilm was a the very least questionable.
I don't get what god's son has to do with filmmaking.
Star Wars needs to stand the test of time.
I watched the Force Awakens 50+ times. The Last Jedi twice.
That's a huge shift. 🤔😏
Man dude , first game of thrones season 8 flopped and now geekdom reminded that Star Wars is going to flopped too........ and now game of thrones writers are PRODUCING A FUCKIN SERIES on Star Wars........
Man where’s Thanos when u need him like honestly😂
I'm not a fan of any of this sequel trilogy. Both of the movies we have so far suck and hand wave several issues within their own plots to progress the story. Force Awakens, how did Poe survive and what was the whole story with anakin's lightsaber? Last Jedi, why doesn't Snoke know they can track the resistance through hyperapace and how come Finn and Rose can hyperspace jump away un detected? But the biggest sin the trilogy makes is to the characters of Luke, Han, and Leia. Instead of them growing over 30 years they stayed the same or regressed. Read the original EU under Lucas. Leia became a senator, then supreme chancellor, got married, had 3 kids one of which she named after her biological father as a way to forgive him and move on, and finally she trained to be a jedi, that thing Rey has yet to do. Luke also grew in interesting ways. Her got married, had a kid, restored the Jedi order, lost his wife to his nephew who turned to the dark side, and had to work on his relationship with his son after his wife's passing. I ask you were any of the Disney characters that interesting. Hell look up Booster Terrik if you want someone Disney only wishes they could come up with to make for an interesting character.
Do you think that, Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a better movie than Solo: A Star Wars Story
No
LF took a 4 billion dollar franchise and winged it. Their hubris has brought them to this place. No plan or care. They wanted nostalgia to make money. But nostalgia is like a Big Mac. Sure it is tasty but you can get sick of it the more you eat it. Even if TRO is a good movie it isn’t going to change the issues of the ST. That this will be the most inconsistent trilogy of all time. Made by two different visions clashing with one another and no sense of harmony.
@@saberiandream316 legends was never canon
@@saberiandream316 It hAd LaYerS Of CaNoN
George Lucas himself said several times that the books aren't canon. Did you even bother doing some research?
It's also stupid of you to think that Disney doesn't consider making more books and comics when there have been plenty of them since 2012
My issue is that Episode 8 was such an important part of this trilogy and with how bad Disney and Rian Johnson made that part of the story, they have no other choice but to end it with cheesy fan service. Still gonna see Episode 9 but this will forever be a trilogy of what could have been... Love your continued analysis on the sequel trilogy Geekdom!
They should’ve just ended at Episode VI: Return of the Jedi peculiarly for The SKYWALKER Saga.....
Why do people like the sequels? They aren’t good. Everyone hates on the prequels but they’re some of my favorite movies all time
A true star wars fan would give the sequels a chance to live on and keep the franchise alive
Why did they even de-canonize Legends
It all sucks but I do hope for a Anakin and Luke interaction in 9. That will at least keep me invested in Star Wars. My interest took a hit with the direction of 8 and what they did to Luke. I did enjoy 1-7, R-1, and Solo.
I just want to see Luke Skywalker fighting more than 3 sith at one time. Or maybe fighting an entire army. Heck I want to see Anakin fight like 5 jedi masters at one time, instead of reading books about it.
NSK Videos
Agreed
If it doesn't follow up what Rian set up, it'll be a Mass Effect 3 level disappointment
Mass Effect 3 was incredible up until the last 30 min. Which was just a "ah fuck we didn't iron this out" and the true ending being leaked out.
@@saberiandream316 Nah forcing yourself to be limited to very specific periods of time with mountains of "canon" is the same as severing creativity. Also only Empire competes with VII and VIII
@@saberiandream316 The MCU also ignores Marvel canon and does its own thing. Also you're ignoring hundreds of novels and the fact that basically all of Luke's life and his children's lives are accounted for
Saberian Dream what?! MCU infinity war was nothing like the comic story line! The concept was similar and that was it.
@@saberiandream316 ST is an adaption of Dark Empire in Disguise so there's that
Even if Luke's motivation was the same, the script is poorly written. The Last Jedi is filled with unlikeable characters and I can still feel the fuck you to fans.
I love Star Wars. As a kid I watched the prequels then the original... freaking love them... the games... the toys... the lore all of it.... I hate the new trilogy.
I wasn’t a fan of episode 7, but was like ehhhh they can’t fuck it up... it’s Star Wars... then movie 8 came out and ... well ... fuck
The one thing I can say about the sequels is the farce will be with you always
Is The Original Trilogy better than The Sequel Trilogy?
Hell ya
Stephen Martinez Um OF COURSE!!!😂
Everything else Star Wars is better than the sequels.
Honestly I feel like they should let 20 Century Fox or some other movie studio do Legends Movies in animated form similar to Spiderverse and contract Dark Horse and Delrey to continue Legends books. So they can have their own continuity and us older fans can have our original continuity. I feel this would at least give the more bitter (And I don't mean this as an insult) fans who don't like the new canon a new avenue. Also it increases the most important thing for them more money to make. I mean it works for Marvel what with their X-Men and MCU stuff. Then they can do games and cross over material featuring Legends and Canon characters similar to the mobile games. Because honestly I never liked the new movies (Outside of the spinoffs and The Mandalorian is peaking my interest), because I was always bitter they got rid of the stuff I liked like Luke's Jedi Academy, Thrawn, and the Solo Twins and X-Wing Series for THIS?! But I understand that there are people that like the new movies and the new characters.
I hated TLJ and ROS... I was happy to see JJ shit on TLJ but the film was still genuine trash
Solo made money? That was one of the most expensive films ever produced PLUS all the money put into marketing, where did it get out of the red? It failed in projected dvd sales as well, much below what was needed to put it into the black..idk about that statement you may want to research it
I still enjoyed the prequels. Of course it will never be as good as the originals. The prequels still gave us some good stuff. For example the Phantom menace had a lot of problems, but still gave us a darth maul. Who was an awesome villain, and the fight with him, quigon(idk how to spell it) and obi wan was epic.
Also, it was clear LF wanted to remake the OT but knew they couldn’t due to backlash. They put agenda and a lack of planning instead of cohesive storytelling. And they’ve got fans but this is a Pyrrhic victory. TLJ won the battle money wise but lost the war in terms of long run consequences.
Can you do us a favor and stop saying TLJ ruined Star Wars? We understand if you don't like the movie, but stop saying that this film is a cancer on the franchise because for _most, not all_ Star Wars fans, they liked or loved this film. Thanks again, Danny.
the Sequels are a creative failure in all sense of the word. I LOVE TFA. I think TFA despite it's flaws set up potential, you all remember the hype for TLJ and the theories. I miss those days. TFA set up potential and TLJ killed it. because Kathleen had no direction for the sequels. George at first had no direction for the OT when he made ep 4 because he intended it to be 1 film, then after the box office success he saw how people loved it and got to work making a trilogy. He saw it's success and continued. the Prequels though having many flaws still feel like Star Wars because they didn't ruin the OT characters but made them better. the Prequels even have an overall narrative and great world building. the Sequels don't. TFA set up a decent start only for TLJ to kill it because Ryan didn't need to follow any guide lines. and now Disney is trying to pull an overall story out of their asses at the last minute. ep 9 may be good, if it is it will only be good as a solo film. no mater what they do in ep 9 can't fix their trilogy. because these incompetent idiots don't know the basics of story telling. you NEED an over all story and end point your trying to get the characters to. look at the MCU. over 20 films and they knocked it out of the park with Endgame. now that they've reached their goal with the MCU interest will die down and especially because they want to make it woke. I wish George would have been brought on to help them, but they failed. it's a failure because it ruined the potential of Star Wars to continue in film, ruined the potential set up by TFA. and them sacrificing the EU was a waste because of the failure of their trilogy.
The new trilogy needed a better and more seasoned directors and producers like Josh Weahdon, Oliver Stone, Speilberg, or even a Peter Jackson, Etc, not ones easily bullied and strong creative power OR a young Director who is a SUPER FAN of Star Wars; I never agreed with the choice of Abrams and knew it was going to be a kind of reboot. These movies are strangely disjointed as if created by someone who doesn’t think Star Wars is cool or is only for boys and felt resentment towards it. Do you know what I mean?
I'd say this video should be made after the trilogy is complete
It's not
If this sequel trilogy didn't have a death star 3 and got rid of the new republic and instead of the resistance, it was the new republic vs the first order, that at least would've been better then just whipping the slate clean and completely getting rid of the new republic which was an accomplishment from the original trilogy, the fact that the empire was defeated and that a new republic was gonna reform, but to just get rid of it entirely was stupid and repetitive, if they did this, at least that part of the accomplishments of the og trilogy would've still meant something, and it would not have been as regarded as a rip off with yet another death star, and as for the jedi still not being back I would've been a lot less forgiving cause they didnt just throw away everything from the og trilogy and rehash it, but still what we have is just the og trilogy but done way worse so whats the point
Some really good points. I loved Force Awakens and hated Last Jedi.
These will have a similar feel to the Prequel Trilogy when all is said and done, imo: coming up just a bit short, and leaving a lot to be desired.
They are not failures and isn't even done. Also and most importantly the fandom expected too much and just because it wasn't what they wanted they hated on it. Sure they have issues but eps 7 n 8 are good.
Luke gave up on a kid that could turn evil when he had proven an evil adult can be redeemed. Hell, his own mother gave up on Ben, total nonsense.
Even if it could be stretched that it's logical, it's still bad. There is no point to even pretend they are the "light side" if they are incapable to forgive.
I really hope 9 is good and it allows me to throw away Ep8.
Why does Luke tell Rey “You’ve been here before” when she first walks into the Jedi tree on Ahch-to?
Doesn’t that imply some original idea where she did receive Jedi training? Reincarnation, maybe? 🤔
No way did Han Solo make money.
I agree, the original trilogy CANNOT be remade, it will be the absolute worst received star wars project (particularly by fans); creativity was defenatly lacking in the sequels and much more, my 2 biggest issues were that it felt it was not sticking to the original storyline like the prequels did; the effects weren't good either, tie fighters don't blow up, instead, they just get hit by blaster fire and break apart and crash, anyway, that's just my opinion though...