Friday Freakout: Skydiver's Reserve Handle Accidentally Pulled On Exit (But Didn't Open)
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** What happened **
While climbing to altitude, this three-way belly group changed the exit plan. Shockingly - yes, that was sarcasm - there was a bunch of confusion in the door. When Jumper 1 started to climb out, Jumper 2 didn’t realize he was going to the camera step. He exited, reached out for the first jumper, and snagged the D-handle as he tumbled out. Somehow the pin was not dislodged, and the jumper safely deployed at normal altitude, and landed his main.
** Why did it happen **
Confusion
The first jumper thought he was getting onto the camera step. The second jumper thought he was chasing him out the door. So, when Jumper 1 got out, Jumper 2 followed and - in a confused panic - reached for the first jumper not knowing what was going on.
Poor situational awareness
Before the group even exited, the second jumper already came very close to grabbing Jumper 1’s D-handle while still in the plane. He thought that the first jumper was exiting too soon and grabbed him to hold him in the plane and check the spot. He didn’t realize how close his hand was to that handle.
** How could it be prevented **
Planning
When you decide on a dive flow or an exit, don’t start changing plans while you're in the plane. Given that Jumper 1 was relatively new (60 jumps), the more experienced jumpers should have just stuck with the plan they had agreed with on the ground. Had they just gone with the original plan, all the chaos in the door would have probably been avoided.
Watch those handles!
There’s really no excuse for - not once, but twice - almost snagging someone’s reserve handle on climb-out or exit. It doesn’t matter if you’re exiting linked, chasing, or whatever - never blindly grab at someone’s rig.
** Additional Notes **
Worst case scenario
This could have been a REALLY bad day because, had that reserve deployed while Jumper 1 was trying to get onto the camera step, it could have taken out the plane's tail/horizontal stabilizer and brought down the plane.
Reserve cables
The reserve cable got pulled out quite a bit on exit but didn’t pull the pin on the reserve. One rigger reviewing this video noted that, while it was somewhat fortunate that a deployment didn’t occur due to the previously mentioned risk (above) to the plane, there are also some questions about why that reserve didn’t get deployed.
Good communication
While not visible in the video, the jumpers stated that everyone on the jump knew that something was wrong. Jumper 2 claims he was attempting to explain to Jumper 1 that something had happened and Jumper 3 didn’t know what was going on but got the impression that they needed to abandon their dive flow and just bring it down. While this whole situation was somewhat sketchy, it would have been a lot worse had someone flown over Jumper 1 right before a reserve fire happened. Attempting to stay on level but at a distance was the right call.
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It’s crazy so many of these accidents happen on a Friday.
Fantastic 👏🤣
Falling away with your hand “accidentally” gripping someone else’s handle would be weird enough but the slow motion shows a clear, intentional pull with the arm.
He grabbed his reserve handle three separate times. I can only assume the other guy had an affair with his wife and he was trying to build up courage to murder him.
we have the same feelings...Dirty mind! lol
😅🤣😅🤣
not only murder the guy but also, take out the plane and anyone left on board as well. That reserve would have popped over the tail for sure.
@@mattgaetz5548 lol maybe it was everyone on board that plane that was having an affair with his wife?
@@zakhoyt7771 YEA! HAHAHA I love a good bunga-bunga party.
For those who are worried of why the reserve didn't deployed: he's using a spectra reserve ripcord (you can see in the video, it's a nylon-type cable coming out), it extends by that length like a bungee before starting to pull out the reserve pin. It has been designed to avoid a reserve deployment due to a handle dislodgment. Coincidentally that system saved his life.
how did it save him? (idk anything abt skydiving)
@@bcrides6717 He was right next to the airplane tail, a reserve deployment would have pushed the pilot chute and the whole reserve directly into the tail, ending in a disaster, for the skydiver and potentially for the whole aircraft and its occupants (a reserve entanglement and its drag could potentially rip off, literally, the whole aircraft tail).
@@arctic_ita that doesn't sound good
@@bcrides6717 It's not. Premature deployments at the door is one of those worst case scenarios, unfortunately we've seen planes taken down because of it.
Great explanation !
Dude don't jump with him again... He wants you out of this relationship
That was not an accident. Way too affirmative an action. Completely intentional. As a former FAA inspector, this guy needs to investigated.
As not a former FAA inspector guy this guy needs to be investigated
Is it just me, or did that almost look intentional...
I'd say that was intentioal!
That's what I thought. It didn't look like they were trying to grab onto everything & anything and accidentally grabbed the handle.
100%
I was thinking the same thing.
I does look suspicious. But why?
That’s what you call attempted MURDER
Guy thinks: 'Hey! They put a handle there for linked exits, how thoughtful!'
I wonder how that convo went after he saw this footage.
Yo you tried to kill me? No man i was Just joking around... Oh ok LMAO
@@slepk7898 lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
The 1 time you're happy the reserve didn't deploy. Good thing he didn't actually need it.
That dude needs to be banned from USPA dropzones immediatly and have his license revoked. That was the most intentional pull of someones reserve I have ever seen.
This is in switzerland
That was not intentional.
@@johnbrowning3986 Not Switzerland but Norway
So I guess you have never made a mistake
@@MrDorf007 that wasnt a mistake, he had his hand over the reserve handle three separate times before the jump. definitely intentional
If that reserve had deployed at just the wrong time, it could have taken the aircraft down. Crazy!
As a Skydiver myself... That looked deliberate... WTF
i'm not a sky diver and it looks deliberate from my pov too
@@laconic151 you were the asshole pulling the handle, admit it
@@laconic151 stfu,
everyone agrees it look intentional and nobody cares if the description says otherwise,
Mistake or not the guy was an idiot and not using situational awareness and this situation could have ended alot worse
@@tonyHern865 yeah with the way he's going on about looking at the description it definitely would seem that he's the guy that pulled it
you HAVE to be a skydiver to tell thats intentional
it doesn't looks to be accidental, but fully conscious when he pulled the handle 😳Nothing in description can justify such an action.
Yes. He spent time just prior to exiting the plane feeling around his buckles. Then yanked it while dropping out the plane. That absolutely looked intended, even more so in the slow motion.
Fake
Definitely pulled it on purpose. You can see his arm flex
For argument sake could he have been trying to grab that strap that his other hand was on?
Agreed.
I have to say that looked intentional. Definitely took hold and pulled. There is a story there for sure.
And this is how conspiracy theories are born. Basically you're suggesting that a skydiver attempting to commit murder would be unaware that GoPros abound on every jump. On the other hand, maybe his POV was different from ours, so whereas we see him, camera center, grip that handle and yank, he's actually just seeing plane and body and fabric and is foolishly unaware of what he's grabbing onto. But your attempted murder theory seems legit, too.
It does look intentional and there might indeed be a story there.
@@Constitution1789 Lmao you can clearly see it was a misunderstanding. The first guy was going to swing outside and wait for a count. The second guy thought they were just diving out so he dove and accidentally grabbed the guys handle. You people are smoking crack lol Also if you don't jump, then just... stop.
@@eyeswydeshut359 Your anger and ignorance are amusing. I'm honored my comment for Thunder Pants triggered you to reply.
@@Constitution1789 Ohhhhh I'm soooo mad lmao 😡😂
Without even checking comments I watched this video at least 20 times, there is just NO WAY that was an accident. Feel sick to my stomach, that was a clear grab and PULL. Even if his hand was on the handle, what was the reason for his arm to pull hard like that then just let go? If you’re scared and holding on you don’t just let go, again intentional.
Well, the reason is simple, because then they could put it up as a Friday freakout video. Guess why the chute didn´t open....
He let go because realized he was going to fall anyway I think it was just a response to falling unexpectedly
I'm no professional, but I possess enough insight to know that THAT man knows exactly what he was doing!! How could any experienced skydiver NOT know what he was doing right there basically?
It looked like a lesson, so probably not very experienced
It would astonish you to see how loose most people roll at the average DZ. Most civilian skydivers do not brief or practice emergency procedures, are not proficient in them, and can not execute them properly.
@@Veteran_Aviator who tf are these people jumping without knowing how.
A turbine conversion 206 was lost this past Saturday May 25, 2024 in Butler Missouri by premature reserve deployment into tail while jumper was in door. It was a miracle the jumper survived. Tail was bent and tail twisted by the entanglement. By some miracle the reserve was cleared. All 6 jumpers and 1 pilot jumped to safety, but plane was total loss
That looked Intentional AF!
It looks like he did it intentionally at firdt but watch it a few times. He was teying to grab harness, and when the harness moved with him(cause it was the reserve handle) he let go immediately and spent the jump trying to get the info across to the other jumper. It was a terrible mistake, but looked like an accident
Oh you’re right
it is exactly what happened
yeah and if you read the description of why he was off guard too
Yeah he didn't think thst guy would stay there. He thought they were just jumping and he held tight to the other grip as well.
C’mon man you’re not fooling anyone. It didn’t deploy so how would he know he for sure pulled it. Only reason he knew for sure is because he did it on purpose. I watched it several times too. Also it made no sense at all how he jumped out of the plane spinning towards him only other than to purposefully pull his cord. It’s so obvious in every sense. This guy belongs in prison. He made sure he knew right where the cord was before they jumped. His plan to take him out or the plane didn’t work as it didn’t deploy so he’s trying to look innocent by telling him in the air.
I've thought for a while now that we need a signal for "check your handles."
He could have potentially brought the entire plane down and every skydiver in it. The drop zone, pilot, airplane owner and every skydiver in the airplane should have pursued charges against this clown.
Better stay far away from that guy, that don't look like a "accident" at all.
We need universal signals that signify "malfunction with your main canopy, reserve canopy, etc." It'd take the guess work out of it in dangerous situations like this.
I strongly agree. Just like we need clear universal hand signals in the world of automobile driving, everything from, “Your blinker is still on, you clueless fuck,” to, “Your wallet is still on your car’s roof, you clueless fuck.”
that doesn’t looks accidental at all. nobody does that
Why would he point it out during freefall then? It wasn't deliberate, just a badly planned exit. He grabbed it thinking he's holding onto the harness then he felt the slip and immedietly let it go.
who would do that on purpose cmon
yeah🤣🤣
Had to watch that gain in slow motion. Maybe they had planned on doing a linked exit? I know I've gone on jumps before where we did some sort of a linked exit. Or maybe he's also an AFF instructor so he has a habit of doing exits like that? Either way, I bet he won't be hanging on or grabbing onto other jumpers' rigs again in the future! I do see what you mean about it not looking like an accident. After going over it again in slo-mo, it looks like he did reach/grab on purpose, but let go once he realized he had grabbed onto something he did not want to grab.
Anyone that grabs main lift web on your harness as a grip needs to be kicked in the nuts....
Or vag, I don't discriminate.
I don't know what I'm afraid of more. The fact that he pulled the reserve or the fact that it didn't open. I think there was an angel riding him down holding it because it wasn't his time. What are the odds?
I think you have to cut away the main for the reserve to open, I am guessing here.
If he had a RSL on the rig.. yes.. a chopped main will pull the reserve.
@@vinodchhabria8738 not really.
The reserve handle is connected to the reserve pin by a cable. If you pull that handle (and thus the cable) far enough to extract the pin from the reserve loop, then the reserve canopy will open - regardless of whether the main canopy is still attached.
If you have an RSL (reserve static line) fitted, then one of the main canopy risers is also attached to the reserve pin, vis a separate cable. If your main canopy is deployed and then you cut it away, so long as the main is generating enough drag then it will pull the reserve pin as you fall away from it - regardless of whether or not you pull the reserve handle.
The scary part here is not the mistake made or the reserve not opening, but the comments screaming 'intentional' and ''murder atempt'
If every mistake is taken as intentional, than the DZ's will be empty in no time.
Relax, everybody survived and learnt from this and next jump will be even saver.
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for me this is attempted murder.where did this guy have no intention?the clearest guy is when he realizes he didn't succeed and tries to warn the "friend" for realizing that his plan did not work so it creates a perfect alibi.
galo!
100% deliberate! I’m not a skydiver however he should be reported to the relevant authorities for this!
just reviewed with payback speed set to 0.25. yeah he feels for it. then grabs harness near it . then gets right hand on that same hold and left hand on guys arm. maintains contact with the ring with his right thumb under/behind it. then rushingly speaks for the both of them. and jumps way to fast...this way he can say he was just grabbing for harness. he obviously tries to warn the jumper that something happened to save face and maintain his Innocents
First, these are professional skydivers who go by feel just on instinct at this point, and he would know by feel alone that he had a good grip on a freakin chute handle...
But even more important for this particular case is that they were making the argument he was reaching for the guy's strap on his pack, but after seeing that he's got a great hold of that SAME STRAP with his right hand, not only would he not have a need to grab it with his left hand also, think about it, what would that accomplish? But he would also know that he wasn't holding onto that strap with his left hand because he already had ahold of it with his right.....
Seriously, watch it again from about 1:23 on, and just keep re-clicking that time on the progress bar while you watch the video, and you'll see what I mean here....
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Attempted manslaughter 😅
Political conspiracy.
Actually I’d say attempted murder!
looks 100% intentional in slow mo. he checked it with both hands then transferred hands to be able to hold that spot then pull it.
Now THAT is a great description for the laymen watching these videos. It's very helpful to know WTF is going on before we watch. Otherwise it just looks like a clusterfuck.
looks intentional. this should be considered attempted murder and a prison time
Find out who that is and throw him in jail for attempted murder.
This was not an accident! We can see that he made It intentionally!
binge watching the freaky fridays and it's enough to know i never to try this shit lmao
Looks like the sort of "put your mates handbrake on at the lights trick"
I'm not a skydiver, so I don't have any expertise. However..... To the uninitiated like myself...... nothing about that looks accidental.
There's no way that wasn't intentional! He wrapped his fingers around the handle and gave it a hard yank. Attempted murder.
I'm a total noob, doing a static line raps course, but I thought that looked dodgy, he full on pulls it and lets go, doesn't look accidental at all!!!
There's not a chance that was by accident, he grabbed it and pulled it
I can‘t remember much about my static line training but even after all this time „guard your reserve“ is imprinted on my mind!
“ALWAYS PROTECT THE RIPCORD HANDLE”
Your last name brings joy to my airborne heart
I‘m NAP, so I guess this Legg is technically.. a Leg! 😆
Why it didn’t open?
Just a guess: perhaps there was elastic shock cord between the reserve handle and the pin that secures the reserve closing loop. Maybe the only thing keeping the reserve container closed was the tip of the pin against one side of the grommet!
WTH was with the guy grabbing handles on the exit? Yikes.
It looks like on the slow-mo replay the handle wasn't pulled all the way out luckily. It's just got a teflon cable that runs up through a loop keeping everything together, it wasn't pulled far enough out to release.
@@Rippers-TV
The slow motion replay seemed to show some retraction of the handle after it was released.
I guessed that it might have been a UPT spectra reserve cable or something similar.
It looked like the handle was pulled about 6-8 inches. If this had been a standard Teflon coated wire, it seems that the reserve pin would have completely cleared the loop with that much pull.
Either way, he’s very lucky his reserve didn’t deploy into the aircraft’s horizontal stabilizer!
@@Stepclimb hes problem is he starts one hand on his helbow that has no grip then transitions to his handel.... i would ground him for a while they are lucky they did not take out the entire plane
Had the reserve deployed, are you still able to use the primary?
0:52 “You pulled my sht wtf bro”
Yup
What's the hand signal for "I pulled your reserve handle so you might want look into that?"
Based on the number of videos just this channel has posted of that occurrence it might warrant some discussion....
Have had my D ring reserve handle come out of the pocket in freefall. When someone signaled it to me it was a knifehand at my face, then point to your own reserve handle.
Might not be the best way, but it sure as hell got the point across.
Thanks Dad!!!!
or just fly over, link and hand it to them
I would never ever jump with and trust this guy again. Touches the reserve handle as to make sure where it is, then says "ok" and jumps out of the way while handling the other guys rig with right hand and pulling with all fingers closed with left hand on reserve handle. This guy should be grounded for life
Whether it was ignorance, a mistake, or malicious, its a problem.
0:05
One thing that immediately jumped out at me was the fact that his reserve handle was stowed backward in its harness pocket. That's asking for a snag and unintentional pull.
Reserve handle also looks like it’s seated backwards in the velcro on the lift web.
Absolutely intentional. He even looked round to see it before grabbing it and pulling.
That was surely an attempted murder
It’s an action figure with pull string activation.
I was thinking of getting me one of those ACME reserve cables but the clown horn deployment alarm wasn't included (sold seperately). Extremely disappointed with the Warner Bros rigging loft.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How to make an impression...yank someone’s reserve on the camera step, then do a solo.
Everyone saying it was intentional but isn't it possible he was trying to grab the strap his other hand was on? Watch it in slow mo and the hand is originally on the strap. Then the first guy begins to leave before he's ready so when he reaches back he accidentally grabs the handle and keeps trying to signal to him on the way down what happened and to pull.
Why did he hold on to that
That was no accident!
I knew that planes have emergency brake lever. I just knew it!
they are no longer on speaking terms, lawsuit filed.
Imagine having to take a wrap to pull your reserve lol
We got very lucky there, could easily have been the last flight for D-FOXY, Very Happy it wasn't.
One of the only time a High Pull Force helped to save the day.
The Mini D Ripcord is not correctly orientated in its pouch, on the way to the door.
The Velcro on these rigs is more appropriate for Barbie Dolls or Ladies Lingerie.
The spectra Ripcord allows the handle to be fitted in all sorts of wrong ways.
SunPath and some others, arrange their Ripcord pouch so that the handle can go in deeper,
the MLW is not stitched down directly at the back of the pouch
and the high quality Velcro(that stick like snot to a school boys lip) also help to keep the handle Safely secured.
Hard Pulls
ruclips.net/video/zwxHk-igbyg/видео.html
Start at 17:00 for a wee bit on Velcro.
ruclips.net/video/bsAvy29D_es/видео.html
And that's why I ordered a pillow handle lol
The Headline needs to change from Accidental to intentional. And the idiot who intentionally pulled it needs to be banned.
Is it just me, it did that look like a murder attempt?
I Immediately came to the comments, i thought it would just be me to think this was intentional. You can even see once they all got together the guy who pulled was so concern if the shoot works or not check it out and tell me what ya think.
nice dropzone :) where is it?
Voss, Norway
Skydive Voss in Norway :)
Fretoys-le-chateau
How could I see a 6 days old comment left below footage posted hours ago?!😳
Norway?? Why isn't the DZ listed in the parachutist?
If only I had known when I was there :(
That was no accident.
I had this happen to me when I was a kid. Totally planned, got talked to the door and distracted momentarily by another individual while the other girl yanked my hockey. Got sucked out the door with completely twisted lines. Managed to bodyroll the twist out and straighten it out.
I’m no expert but he first stops him from going by himself then checks the spot of his reserve handle the grabs it w/ a fully closed fist then pulls the reserve handle completely to bend his elbow to 90 degrees then just in time to release out of its intended position. His ass would be answering some serious questions on the ground. Thank God it didn’t go bad as it could have gone. He even looks at the reserve to make sure he got it all the way out
Accidentally? What a bunch of BS.
Had that deployed ,It could have brought the plane down also.On camera too !
He actually closed his fist after grabbing it. Totally intentional. If his fingers "just got caught" they wouldnt close and yank like that...
To me, that looked like attempted murder. I think there is very little you can do if your reserve deploys
As long as it deploys cleanly and your main is still in the container, then you just have a long ride down under your reserve.
Of course, if it deploys and gets entangled with the aircraft, then you are indeed in a world of trouble - as is, potentially, everyone still inside the plane
That was so intentional you could see his forearm pull on it while his bicep was still in place.
Idk man,that doesn't look so "accidental" to me and am in army 10 years now so i have some experience on skydive
The Blue Falcon strikes again!
That was deliberate!
The guy who pulled it should have known better.
THAT WAS SO FCKING INTENTIONAL THAT IT'S CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Literally is attempted murder.
That guy was trying too kill him
That was attempted murder
I expect the guy did not hang around
No excuse to pit someone's life in danger because of incompetence, the reserve almost looks intentional, that's definitely a carton of beers and a 10 jump tickets, me personally would have made him pay for my reserve repack and knocked him out
As a Student i am scard as fuck... WHY DIDNT IT OPEN ?? 😂
Good ?
That's why I prefer the handles with velcro, which is not loose but you have to take it off and then pull.
The fact that it didn’t deploy is a MALFUNCTION!
It's not, he's using a spectra reserve cable. It just reached the end of the stretchy part, a little more and it would have deployed.
@@arctic_ita Correct!
Didn’t look like accident to me
I am absolutely not an expert of this sport but compared to another activity, just for example Snowboarding 🏂 (I’m a Snowboard-Teacher),
there existing basic rules everybody should know as a beginner and isn’t it the same with skydiving 🪂? In this case maybe:
Never, absolutely never ever touch the backpack of the jumper in front of you???.
My English isn’t the best but I hope you guys in here understood what I was trying to say/ask?
I really would appreciate an answer.
With kindest regards and greetings from Germany ✌🏼
Understood. But there is no written rule against doing this type of grip. Almost everyone knows not to get anywhere near your handles when taking grips.... guess we see one that didn't know.
Interesting watching jumper 1 try and get across what was happening in free fall
I don’t even know what to say. On one hand it looks intentional, on the other it looks like he wasn’t expecting him to go out and hold on like that.
Anybody else notice that the jumper who's handle was pulled, the reserve handle was in backwards also?
Good observation, the straight edge of the D-ring should be inside, but it's reversed. So it was put in backwards, creating a bigger snag hazard from the beginning. Nobody did a gear check or caught that in the plane before they jumped out
@@spy6527 if I had to venture a guess, the velro inside the main lift web is old and not staying anymore, so the jumper likely has the handle fall out frequently and just pushed it back it without really knowing which way its supposed to go. This has almost exclusively been the cause of that, that I have seen in my years as a rigger, LO, and Instructor. I hope anybody seeing this thats a new jumper will take away that it is important to not only check yours and everyone else's gear, but to also know how your gear is supposed to be put together and operated
I used to show water ski for a living. I have a big scar on my arm for this exactly lack of communication.
En el 2009 en Suiza me ocurrio practicamente lo mismo, de los peores momentos de mi vida.
If I had been the victim of that obviously intentional move, a serious azz whooping would've commenced, on the ground.
In my opinion and experience with skydiving that was 💯 Totally intentional. He tried to
Un-Alive him for sure. I would like to know what the “conversation” was like when they landed. My fists would have done my talking for me. I’ve watched this video 13 times and how his reserve didn’t deploy is beyond me. Just glad he is ok. That could have been a total disaster for everyone, even the pilot, so many things could have happened if his reserve deployed. Hopefully this was investigated and that guy was reprimanded. This would NOT have been tolerated at my DZ…
That is the most spastic skydive I've seen in a while.