@@CC-xy8nn NEVER mix strength and magic in Nocturne if you do you get waaay less benefits than just going pure mage or pure physical. But magic falls of in my opinion compared to almighty. In fact almighty is insane in this game.
@@CC-xy8nn Also magic damage gets capped while physical damage continues to scale no matter the level. Nocturne Hardtype (a mod) Fixes that issue and makes magic much more viable late game...and just in general tbh. (Magic also got an accuracy buff which is cool because tons of late game enemies inflict accuracy debuffs. Another reason to get that mod)
Feel that. Add; when you go to bed, you realized you are screwed yourself in terms of parties and skills/builds... Suffer the fate of "redo things all over again." In which I opt to choose, as much as I dislike/despise it. But it was a fun time hahaha
What I like most about this was that there was like 0 pause between getting **Clocked** with his hammer and getting vaporized by lightning. Half the reason why this game was so hard was cause literally any enemy in the game delivered your ass-whoopin so fast you didnt even get time to register
enemy turn, crit, crit, weakness hit you didn't expect, aoe crit, crit again. living by a few points while your other 3 are dead or barely living also lol
Even Mot, the poster boy of "using a turn to wish for two more turns" can pull this. There's a clip of someone going off the bat with a charged critical divine shot that ALMOST one-hits Mot. Mot just laughs and destroy the Demifiend two frames later by smacking Demi in the head with his casket.
@@ehmolekkkkk I didnt spam save states, but you know damn straight after 30 minutes of gameplay I'm slamming that save slot 1 down. I only used emulator cause I couldn't reasonably find the game
I know how you feel... I had to go that pain too! Power used hamaon while I was training in a dangerous section and it was an insta kill spell that did me in...
SMT2 does this bit even better than SMT3 - in this game there's a quick animation of the demi-fiend falling over before you go into the game over sequence, but in SMT2, once all human party members die, the game just SMASH-CUTS to black, then starts the game over a second or so later
Idk why I'm surprised to see the funny RUclips man who likes ATLUS and has a life outside of making videos making a comment on other videos, especially since he took the time to reply to me one time answering a question I think. Why do I keep being surprised seeing you in videos like these? They show up in my recommendations because I've watched your videos and watched one short SMT video to push it over the edge... 🤦♂️
I wasn't very strategic when I first started this game. Took a lot of trial and error and learning to realize I can't possibly brute force this game. Ahriman taught me that with apocalypse
@@Chaosfly10 I find the RE to be more troublesome than the bosses, I have like 35(with Gaea magatama) in strength, I found Thor to actually be a little annoying at first, but I quickly picked up on what to do, I was mainly annoyed about redoing the fights before. I feel the kajas and kundas are a little too OP in this one, but I am only willing to use them against bosses because I am very reserved with my mp I haven't played the game in a couple of months and haven't finished it yet.
Believe me man, i made the same mistakes when I played SMTIV for the first time, I thought it would be a easy RPG experience, NOPE! Megaten games are like the only RPG's that require extensive buffs abd debuffs.
I personally like the idea behind the mechanic. It makes the world more dangerous and your life more fragile than you'd like to think. One good hit is enough to end your journey if you're not careful. Which fits with the atmosphere of this game, and the theme behind Persona 3. Of course, in terms of game design, it can be quite unfair, annoying and more importantly, prohibits certain builds ie glass cannons, in a game where mechanically you're meant to have the freedom to be anything you want (a tank, a supporter, a magic spammer, physical attacker).
@@eirei0789 That basically how I feel about Nocturne and Persona 3, the MC = Game Over makes perfectly sense story wise : -Nocturne : Your demon only follow you because they considere you the strongest, they aren't your friend and so if you fall there will just run for their life or join the one that defeat you, like a pack that lost his leader. -Persona 3 : Your character is indirectly the source of the Dark Hour so if he dies no more Dark Hours, and you can't prevent Nyx from the world. But it is a little unfair gameplay wise, altough at least in Persona 3 Portable, 4 and 5 by ranking up their social link your teammates can take a fatal hit for you.
SMT is the only game I've ever played where buffing and debuffing made so much difference between victory and death. You can brute force your way in other game but here, you need to sukukaja sukunda luster candy debilitate your way into victory.
The only smt related game that I've played other than Nocturne where buffs were absolutely necessary was Persona Q2's dreaded second boss where if you don't use masukukaja, you basically just die!
at least it was a merciful kill. first he hits you in the head now you are almost unconscious and not aware of what's happening around you then basically takes you out of existence with that lighting attack. not a bad way to go in my book.
I do love that SMT games always pops a dialogue box before you go into a boss room. "You sure you're ready to go in?" If people still get their asses beat, it's their own fault.
@@leodudesebastian3020 if your opponent is called Thor and you dont even take some elec or phys resist than its your own fault. This is handed to the player on a silver platter, the game cant make it any clearer what sort of setup you need to survive.
You know when you play a game and you're like "Man, that one boss was tough" or "Damn, that one enemy is kinda scary"? That's just SMT. Every boss. And every enemy. (Mothman please give me back my solid 1 hour of grinding please my Pixie is crying and you've ruined our Chrismas)
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 A good combo is using heavy speed debufs and one or two speed buffs, after that the guy can only hit you by sheer luck. Also a def buff while debuffing will let you survive him until your party becomes fricking Sonic the Hedgehog XD
Dr NeoKorteks dawg they take like 3 minutes to jump over a pillar in a 2D platforming tutorial. They probably got their death count in the double digits playing the western release of Final Fantasy 4 on SNES.
Okay, this fight is basically someone swinging nunchuks around to look intimidating, only for that same guy to get kicked in the balls by his opponent.
To be fair, aren't most RPGs like that? The first times you struggle, but then when you replay them, you ask yourself "how did I ever find this difficult?" Though SMT stands above the crowd for sure.
i remembered DDS to be way harder and my first time i used a guide. but years later i played again and had little to no trouble only at the end of dds2
Depends cuz sometimes the rng or patterns used depending actions you've taken are litteraly rigged against you. It's not for no reason that even the fiends are difficult even for experienced SMT players.
Got Fog Breath pretty early in the game...and never forgot it. If the Matador fight taught me anything it's that it is more important that your attacks hit their mark and that your opponent's do not.
Playing through my first time recently and it's real weird how some bosses can be a cakewalk for some people and worryingly competent for others. Sometimes they just wake up and choose violence. Entire fights can go radically different depending on what your enemy decides to do with their action economy. You need to manipulate that as much as possible
There's also strats that I stumbled onto that go against my usual rpg instincts. Like a dude who'd summon healers where the trick was to just let them run out of MP and become useless action sponges because killing them would just result in a fresh batch with more MP. Had to fight the urge of just removing bodies
Wish I could go find my clip on twitch of me having the NG+ Amala Press Turn this early and doing 2 Rakukaja 3 Sukukaja first turn, then Thor basic attacking Demi Fiend for 2 crits in a row and ending the fight without using a single one of his press turns
It's what we or I'm, a "noob" gets on our first run, wrecked so badly. Although I had to admit, it was Matador that slayed me so bad and sent me to the afterlife so many times since he's one of the Fiends. "Use your buffs and debuffs!" Is Nocturne's gimmick and rule of play.
BUT I LIKE MAGIC >dies repeatedly okay putting 20 levels into strength this time and a few into agility so that berserk doesn't MISS 90% OF THE DAMN TIME
Well, I'm doing magic build. Like level 25 or so, and up ato this point I only invested points in magic... Yeah, I turned badass Demi-Fiend into everyone's jizz bucket...
Except Magic kind of destroys everything if you build your team right. I was running Scathach, Titania, and Succubus, and the only bosses that lasted more than 10-15 turns were the last 4 and Lucifer. Granted, physical is much easier and more versatile to use, but a good magic setup wrecks most everything. It should also be noted that the first 5-6 turns of every fight were spent buffing.
I relate to this on so many levels lol, it's about phases where you say to yourself "hey let's play a little bit to feel better" and then the game just do a brutal repulsion, also Thor's voice is hilarious, peace on all of your deaths that occurred this way, we're all on the same boat
I come back to this video a lot, so I'll leave something that you may find slightly humorous. Demifiend: "You should've gone for the head." Thor: "Okay." _bonk_ _zap_
on god i played persona 3 first and the endgame dungeons in p3 are just as difficult as standard starting encounters in older SMTs, the whole ass persona 3-5 line is just a kiddie pool warmup to get you ready for the real shit
The difference between difficulty in P3 is that you can’t control party members and the press turn system is fucked up so the whole thing feels fake. While Nocturne is considered difficult, you have way more options and the ability optimize your party literally as much as you want. I liked P3 for the visual novel aspect, but you will be wayyy more satisfied with Nocturne combat regardless of how hard it might be.
because ive played nocturne and those two games and believe those two to be superior, i just love demi fiends design, nocturne if you ask me is pretty weak compared to smt 4 and even some other non persona ps2 smts, theres barely any plot outside the first few hours and then every 5 hours after that where you bump into another person for like 2 seconds, theres no real alighnments, the techology stuff (demon summoning programs and such) that in my honest opinion defines megami tensei at least in the main games is missing entirely, no voice acting which compounds on the no story issue, yes the press turn battle system is the best turn based system i've ever played with but now that games like digital devil saga and smt 4 exist that A have a far more engaging plot and real voice acting, and yeah digital devil saga doesn't have a demon summoning program either but it's a spin off, it doesn't exactly need one (yes i know not having a summoning program is a dumb complaint but i don't care it bugs me) and smt 4 is basically nocturne but better in every way that isn't battle presentation. long story short nocturne is ok but there are much better smt games now, and that's not talking about persona
I think P5's combat was just as great as other SMTs. Bosses don't have endless hp, and difficulty is improved by other aspects. Maybe don't dive headfirst into Strange Journey or Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga or the Devil Survivor series might be a better choice.
I went and played persona 3, yet Nocturne is still really tough for me at points. I've only really gotten up to Matador since i have a lot of games I'm trying to play at once
Slenderquil Ramcharge yeah I don’t recommend playing more than 1 RPG simultaneously. Especially a game like Nocturne where it’s really easy to not remember where you’re at and what to do next after not playing for a while.
@@TheBrutalSax I'm already swimming in jrpgs at the moment. Persona 3, persona 4, smt nocturne, the ps2 smt where your whole party becomes demons, final fantasy 6, and chrono trigger are all JRPGS I'm playing on the PS3 alone. And then there's also the ones I'm playing on switch and 3ds as well. I'll have to add smt5 to my list as well when it comes out
Im not surprised, I saw how torturous it can be, someone made a 4 video series where they used no buffs or debuffs on any enemies on Hard Mode, while getting the True Demon Ending, and they got so very far, but they had to use debuffs on the 2 final bosses of that route, even when they maxed out their levels, got the best spirits, and such
I just beat this first try and for the whole duration of the boss fight i thought "about to get an smt moment like that dude" Never happened You really SMT'd hard
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>Uses a mage build
>Under leveled
Thor was just showing you the results of your training.
so i used a mage build in DDS 1 and 2, will it not work in this one?
@@CC-xy8nn NEVER mix strength and magic in Nocturne if you do you get waaay less benefits than just going pure mage or pure physical. But magic falls of in my opinion compared to almighty. In fact almighty is insane in this game.
Liquid Lad oh and u definitely have to pick just one in this game because you dont get to keep all of your skills
@@CC-xy8nn Also magic damage gets capped while physical damage continues to scale no matter the level. Nocturne Hardtype (a mod) Fixes that issue and makes magic much more viable late game...and just in general tbh. (Magic also got an accuracy buff which is cool because tons of late game enemies inflict accuracy debuffs. Another reason to get that mod)
@@liquidladdy iirc, the magic scaling actually inverts after level 19 or so, yielding you less damage per magic stat whenever you level up.
*”Featuring Thor from Norse Mythology”*
Mr Lakiro I think you mean from the avengers series (JK)
this gave me a fucked up crazed laugh
Bruh
Kratos *exists*
inb4 Thor nukes Japan.
It’s times like those you just close the game, turn off the tv and go to bed
(This exact situation may or may not have happened multiple times trying to beat Asura in strange journey. Fuck you Asura Roga)
Feel that. Add; when you go to bed, you realized you are screwed yourself in terms of parties and skills/builds... Suffer the fate of "redo things all over again."
In which I opt to choose, as much as I dislike/despise it.
But it was a fun time hahaha
No. You reload the save. Grind back.
Lol and sometimes you just say fuck it no way it can happen twice!
@@awkwardpersona2512 And then it happens again...
What I like most about this was that there was like 0 pause between getting **Clocked** with his hammer and getting vaporized by lightning. Half the reason why this game was so hard was cause literally any enemy in the game delivered your ass-whoopin so fast you didnt even get time to register
It went like this:
>Your turn ends
*_Whack_*
*_KABOOM_*
*_BEAST EYE_*
*_death_*
Or, this
>
*Kill that guy*
*Kill that lady*
*Only one remains*
*Turn ends*
*Uses Dragon Eye*
*Spam Tempests*
*DED*
enemy turn, crit, crit, weakness hit you didn't expect, aoe crit, crit again. living by a few points while your other 3 are dead or barely living also lol
Even Mot, the poster boy of "using a turn to wish for two more turns" can pull this.
There's a clip of someone going off the bat with a charged critical divine shot that ALMOST one-hits Mot.
Mot just laughs and destroy the Demifiend two frames later by smacking Demi in the head with his casket.
>farm for 1 hour outside the city
>get hit by a instakill spell and lose all progress in the farm
>not Stonks
Save states got me like 😎
@@tylerlackey1175 i played on a PS2, no save states fucked me up
@@ehmolekkkkk I didnt spam save states, but you know damn straight after 30 minutes of gameplay I'm slamming that save slot 1 down. I only used emulator cause I couldn't reasonably find the game
I know how you feel... I had to go that pain too! Power used hamaon while I was training in a dangerous section and it was an insta kill spell that did me in...
Achei o João por aqui ,é mole kkkk
The way he says “die.” before killing you is so funny like an enemy actually following through with a threat
Ngl, this game made me do that multiple times. I like it, but it gets so stupid at times.
Hey, 666!
JUDGEMENT!
It went with the music too
The fact how abruptly the video ends makes it even more hilarious and grim how life and death works
PleaseDontForceMe ToMakeAGoogleAccount damn this almost as deep as MOTHER 3 😔
So deep...
It's the funniest part lol
Literally everyone understood how the player felt.
SMT2 does this bit even better than SMT3 - in this game there's a quick animation of the demi-fiend falling over before you go into the game over sequence, but in SMT2, once all human party members die, the game just SMASH-CUTS to black, then starts the game over a second or so later
There's no coming back after that.
*Uses strongest attack available*
Thor: Who threw that piece of paper at me?
shoulda rolled
Seems the recent announcements have revitalized us to look at some good old SMT videos huh Johne?
Oof
Haha
Nice one Johneawesome
Idk why I'm surprised to see the funny RUclips man who likes ATLUS and has a life outside of making videos making a comment on other videos, especially since he took the time to reply to me one time answering a question I think. Why do I keep being surprised seeing you in videos like these? They show up in my recommendations because I've watched your videos and watched one short SMT video to push it over the edge... 🤦♂️
"Now... Are you ready?"
> Yes
"WRONG ANSWER!!"
"I'm the strongest thunderbender you will ever see!!"
*hammers protag like a nail
"WHAT WE LEARN!?"
"Are you ready?"
>No
No
@@Fermin-hw5pd wrong answer
"Are you ready?"
> No
Go to the Title Screen
I love how he still has an extra turn even if you didn't die.
Same!!
should've used war cry
I wasn't very strategic when I first started this game. Took a lot of trial and error and learning to realize I can't possibly brute force this game. Ahriman taught me that with apocalypse
@@Chaosfly10 took you pretty long to get it then lol
@@Chaosfly10 I learned that the hard way when I first played this and decided to try hard mode right off the bat.
@@Chaosfly10 I find the RE to be more troublesome than the bosses, I have like 35(with Gaea magatama) in strength, I found Thor to actually be a little annoying at first, but I quickly picked up on what to do, I was mainly annoyed about redoing the fights before. I feel the kajas and kundas are a little too OP in this one, but I am only willing to use them against bosses because I am very reserved with my mp
I haven't played the game in a couple of months and haven't finished it yet.
Believe me man, i made the same mistakes when I played SMTIV for the first time, I thought it would be a easy RPG experience, NOPE!
Megaten games are like the only RPG's that require extensive buffs abd debuffs.
"DIE! IIIRRRGHUAAAA!"
-Thor(Son Of Odin) Mantra Headquarters, 2003.
You can see hes rethinking his life choices after tornado misses by the way he hesitates when choosing his next move. Almost as if he knew hes screwed
Hit it on the nose with that one. So many things go wrong so quickly early on in this game so I kinda just handed it in
I physically winced in anguish when that tornado missed cuz thats just half his turn gone in a flash
Number one rule of SMT games, always Buff/Debuff first.
even if you have to pass
just do it
@@dmas7749 Gotta use those Press Turns brother.
*search up on GameFaQ to see what its weak too
I never buff/debuff in the first SMT game and Im doing fine...until the game throws me some really hostile enemy groups -.-
Strange journey redux Beelzebub begs to differ.
Journalists:
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It's like Dark Souls.
Has nocturne figured out that beating the mc reasults in an instant victory?!?!?!?
びんびんごはんケーキー Flynn: “not if the demons have the item using skill.”
Thankfully the fixed that in Digital Devil Saga, because, my god, that mechanic is annoying
I wonder why they keep this on persona too
I personally like the idea behind the mechanic. It makes the world more dangerous and your life more fragile than you'd like to think. One good hit is enough to end your journey if you're not careful. Which fits with the atmosphere of this game, and the theme behind Persona 3.
Of course, in terms of game design, it can be quite unfair, annoying and more importantly, prohibits certain builds ie glass cannons, in a game where mechanically you're meant to have the freedom to be anything you want (a tank, a supporter, a magic spammer, physical attacker).
@@eirei0789 That basically how I feel about Nocturne and Persona 3, the MC = Game Over makes perfectly sense story wise :
-Nocturne : Your demon only follow you because they considere you the strongest, they aren't your friend and so if you fall there will just run for their life or join the one that defeat you, like a pack that lost his leader.
-Persona 3 : Your character is indirectly the source of the Dark Hour so if he dies no more Dark Hours, and you can't prevent Nyx from the world.
But it is a little unfair gameplay wise, altough at least in Persona 3 Portable, 4 and 5 by ranking up their social link your teammates can take a fatal hit for you.
"They do cheap training, i get cheap kills."
-Thor, problably
Lol that got me
POV: you're a giant at Þrymur and "Freyja's" wedding.
This is the best comment by far
How do you pronounce that?
@@ammagon4519 Thrym(r)
Demifiend: man this is too easy
Matador: allow me to introduce myself
Fucker taunt and Andalusia'ed me to death during my first time playing
@@snoopcat9351 red capote so you can't land a single damn hit on him
SMT is the only game I've ever played where buffing and debuffing made so much difference between victory and death. You can brute force your way in other game but here, you need to sukukaja sukunda luster candy debilitate your way into victory.
>what is Haste in FFX
@@billyboleson2830 Haste was never necessary
@@billyboleson2830 Haste, if anything... just halves the fight.
I'd say sukunda, defense down and enemy agility down are 3 mandatory things to bring in noc
The only smt related game that I've played other than Nocturne where buffs were absolutely necessary was Persona Q2's dreaded second boss where if you don't use masukukaja, you basically just die!
dude i love the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA thor makes.
Same here
thats how i react when i lose in this game
"HE ACTUALLY SAID YES TO BEING READY"
*Scream of unrelenting rage being unleashed*
All the new comments have informed me of the remastered that's coming! Very excited!
Now do this in HD.
Same here!
Do it on merciful mode, just for shits and giggles xD
One more God
Now you can get clocked by Thor in HD! (Featuring Raidou from Devil Summoner)
You: Take this TORNADO!
Thor: *Ｓｏ ｙｏｕ ｈａｖｅ ｃｈｏｏｓｅｎ ｄｅａｔｈ*
When the guy you're fighting dodges a damn tornado, you know you've fucked up.
_“So you have choose death”_ That grammar error tho...
Slide to the left
@@absoutezeo2126 well in My girimekhala fight he avoided like 5 tornados with 37 in agility
“You DARE bring light to my lair? YOU MUST 0:33”
I wish I could heart comments twice
We need this video remastered next year
oh, it's happening now
Me:
RUclips recommendations: SMT III NOCTURNE THOR BOSS FIGHT (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL)
(IN THE HOOD)
(DANTE CALLED)
Thor is like...
*Reject this you filthy casual*
"damn these gods got hands"
Yea, this is pretty accurate
Imagine not beating thor on your first try
This. Also everyone memes Matador but I beat him on my 2nd try.
Matador took me 2 tries, Thor 4...
@RaineTCG
Sounds like someone's upset they didn't beat Matador in 2 or less tries.
@@kabronex9877 yeah everyone
I beated both matador and thor 1st try, luckily I went for buff/debuffs strategy in my first run wich is the best
at least it was a merciful kill. first he hits you in the head now you are almost unconscious and not aware of what's happening around you then basically takes you out of existence with that lighting attack. not a bad way to go in my book.
Me = Demi-fiend
Life = Thor
Music: I will not die!
Thor: *D i e !*
your name make it even better
That small pause after the tornado miss is the best part.
Tips for any SMT player: If you go to boss battles unprepared you will have a bad time
I do love that SMT games always pops a dialogue box before you go into a boss room. "You sure you're ready to go in?" If people still get their asses beat, it's their own fault.
Rule of gold in every smt/persona game: don't expect to beat the boss in your first try even if is just the first one in the game
@@leodudesebastian3020 if your opponent is called Thor and you dont even take some elec or phys resist than its your own fault. This is handed to the player on a silver platter, the game cant make it any clearer what sort of setup you need to survive.
Tee Kay except in smt 1, where you can kill thor with zio because it has a 100% stun rate for any boss
It's fun cause the game is bad telling you when a boss is coming. Like, I literally died against the fucking Spectre cause all my demons had low HP.
8 seconds of this video is pre-battle
26 seconds are the player's turn
4 seconds of it is death
This video is perfection
I mean Thor said "Die" and then you died, so he's just fulfilling his statement.
Me: Eh, I've played over 150 different RPGs, this won't take long
Nocturne: *DID YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THIS EASY?!?!?*
I screamed when you went straight for Tornado and not War Cry.
You know when you play a game and you're like "Man, that one boss was tough" or "Damn, that one enemy is kinda scary"?
That's just SMT. Every boss. And every enemy.
(Mothman please give me back my solid 1 hour of grinding please my Pixie is crying and you've ruined our Chrismas)
Exactly
Damn...
That's rough, buddy.
Thor: "DIE!" *deep orgasmic moan as he brings lightning down*
>doesnt buff or debuff
>underleveled
>magic build
i can't believe i didnt beat him!
Level doesn't matter that much
And you can beat him with a magic build. Plus is a meme, even if you are prepared for this fight or other, the RNG can kill you easily.
He did buff with Sukukaja, it's just that he used the wrong buff/debuff, and Rakukaja + Tarunda would be preferrable here
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 A good combo is using heavy speed debufs and one or two speed buffs, after that the guy can only hit you by sheer luck. Also a def buff while debuffing will let you survive him until your party becomes fricking Sonic the Hedgehog XD
@@doughnut5945 Higher level = higher HP, so he could have survived those two attacks (or dodged with better stats)
Tenderize the meat and fried it with lightning
Demi: “ONE MORE GOD REJECTED!”
Thor: “Oh, word???”
"hehe, hammer goes 'bonk'!"
"Thunder goes EAAAAEAARGH!"
"SMT Nocturne is so easy"
*BUT IN HD!!!*
Imagine if the merciful difficulty was still brutal
@@TheBrutalSax I wonder if merciful difficulty will still be considered hard by "game journalists" who will play with it
Dr NeoKorteks dawg they take like 3 minutes to jump over a pillar in a 2D platforming tutorial. They probably got their death count in the double digits playing the western release of Final Fantasy 4 on SNES.
@@TheBrutalSax Fair enough :}
Retendo ayo as long as you’re not writing articles saying “it’s literally Dark Souls” or something, you’re good.
I like how for 30 seconds the fight seems to be going good, then Thor just Thanos snaps your character.
Me before SMT: "Why aren't JRPG enemies smart? These guys could instakill my party but they dont"
Me after SMT: "Oh THATS why"
This was a year ago? Glad to see I'm not the only one playing through Nocturne these days
You're not the only one. Classics are timeless.
It's my favorite game of all time. I play it once a year.
Got it off ebay some weeks ago and am currently going through it.
Just beat P3FES, time to get back on the Nocturne train 😎
@@orbasm5 FES is great, but Choo-Choo, all aboard the Hee-Ho Express!!!
“Kingdom Hearts 2 has screwed us again!”
“Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne would never lie to us.”
*from some vid*
Don't make me get the belt.
The video is called Vote For Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Did you hear? X-Play (the show that that skit is from) is coming back by the way. So is Attack Of The Show.
>no skills to debuf enemy
>Underleved demons
>Weak demons
>Attack only
You started a boss fight without buffing and debuffing. You deserved that completely.
Thor: "VIBE CHECK"
Okay, this fight is basically someone swinging nunchuks around to look intimidating, only for that same guy to get kicked in the balls by his opponent.
Pretty much
Nocturne is fun, my only problem is that challenge dissapears once you figure the game out. But nuking things will never be not fun.
To be fair, aren't most RPGs like that? The first times you struggle, but then when you replay them, you ask yourself "how did I ever find this difficult?" Though SMT stands above the crowd for sure.
i remembered DDS to be way harder and my first time i used a guide. but years later i played again and had little to no trouble only at the end of dds2
Depends cuz sometimes the rng or patterns used depending actions you've taken are litteraly rigged against you. It's not for no reason that even the fiends are difficult even for experienced SMT players.
I love all the persona games but they basically turn into visual novels once you figure out the games. Nocturne is no where near as bad in that regard
@@Harkz0r That's why superbosses and postgame dungeons became a thing.
Soon we all can suffer like this .... But in HD.
This is why buffs/debuffs are your bestfriend in the smt series. Also the demons you bring into each battle and fusions.
Thor: Now, are you ready?
>No
>No
Got Fog Breath pretty early in the game...and never forgot it. If the Matador fight taught me anything it's that it is more important that your attacks hit their mark and that your opponent's do not.
All I hear right now is Sirlionhart screaming “This that SMT BUUULLLSHIIIITTT!”
"What is this bs?? F you game for not telling me this sh1t would happen!"
Playing through my first time recently and it's real weird how some bosses can be a cakewalk for some people and worryingly competent for others. Sometimes they just wake up and choose violence.
Entire fights can go radically different depending on what your enemy decides to do with their action economy. You need to manipulate that as much as possible
There's also strats that I stumbled onto that go against my usual rpg instincts. Like a dude who'd summon healers where the trick was to just let them run out of MP and become useless action sponges because killing them would just result in a fresh batch with more MP. Had to fight the urge of just removing bodies
@@thewerebear1 That'd be one of the riders right? I like their battles they have fun gimmicks
Yah, the one that spawns in the manikin city
Ethereal voice: "GOD!...I will not..."
*cracks*
I died here, turned off Nocturne then my PS3 before going to bed and haven’t played since. That was 4 months ago
I swear to god, this video gets recommended to me like every week. And i watch it every week.
I appreciate it!
Can't wait for people to start referring to Nocturne as the Dark souls of JRPG's even thought it has a difficulty setting
And was out almost a decade before Dark Souls
Can't wait for it to get called Persona rip-off
@@ammagon4519 which should not make sense considering they are both Atlus games.
Bruh the difficulty setting is just: Hard→Mega Hard→Ultra Hard→MC gets OHKO'D no matter what
This video unironically got me into smt thank you
Awesome! Glad to hear that
*Thor says: "DIE!"*
And then he did.
Wish I could go find my clip on twitch of me having the NG+ Amala Press Turn this early and doing 2 Rakukaja 3 Sukukaja first turn, then Thor basic attacking Demi Fiend for 2 crits in a row and ending the fight without using a single one of his press turns
That sounds pretty brutal. But that's just how this game is sometimes
"Well, what can you say. 10% to hit are 10% to hit." -Your PC / Console in virtually any game with random chance.
@@Mayhzon true
"SMT Nocturne but if I die the video ends"
Alternate title
Thanks youtube algorithm, very cool. This game is sick, we need an hd re release
Wish granted
XD
Ah, the SMT wake up call. A classic.
SMT Nocturne HD REMASTER HYYYYYYYYYPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
First mistake: no debuffs on thor
It's what we or I'm, a "noob" gets on our first run, wrecked so badly. Although I had to admit, it was Matador that slayed me so bad and sent me to the afterlife so many times since he's one of the Fiends.
"Use your buffs and debuffs!" Is Nocturne's gimmick and rule of play.
Imagine doing a magic 🤢🤢 A magic bui 🤢🤢🤢 I can't even say it 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Only real men do Magic build Hard TDE runs
BUT I LIKE MAGIC
>dies repeatedly
okay putting 20 levels into strength this time and a few into agility so that berserk doesn't MISS 90% OF THE DAMN TIME
Well, I'm doing magic build. Like level 25 or so, and up ato this point I only invested points in magic...
Yeah, I turned badass Demi-Fiend into everyone's jizz bucket...
Except Magic kind of destroys everything if you build your team right. I was running Scathach, Titania, and Succubus, and the only bosses that lasted more than 10-15 turns were the last 4 and Lucifer. Granted, physical is much easier and more versatile to use, but a good magic setup wrecks most everything.
It should also be noted that the first 5-6 turns of every fight were spent buffing.
@@NEETKitten: haven't made it past the early game, and you have very little to work with magic-wise early on
>only has sukukaja.
Well theres your problem.
Thor: “Are you ready?”
*Yes*
Thor: *pulling out a gun*
“YEAH BUT ARE YOU _REALLY_ READY?”
I love how goofy Thor sounds while being very threatening
The ol smack-thunder combo
I relate to this on so many levels lol, it's about phases where you say to yourself "hey let's play a little bit to feel better" and then the game just do a brutal repulsion, also Thor's voice is hilarious, peace on all of your deaths that occurred this way, we're all on the same boat
What a lovely comment, Thank you for this :)
Now that the remake is coming out I'll be expecting this lol
Demifiend is basically all of us, while Thor is life in 2020
thor: hello, buffs?
demifiend: buff machine broke
thor: understandable, die
lol this comment is great
At the end of the day it's better than dying to mudo when you maxed on sukukaja lol.
i was so confused by the lack of buff/debuff in the first turn. That's like first rule when fighting SMT bosses.
Yeah that's how I played for at least half the game cause it was my first playthrough and completely blind
Maybe if I get a Magatama that absorbs lightning...
Looks it up.
You get it after beating Thor......
Cry
This is exactly what I went through when playing on the remaster. Forgot Narukami was earned from Thor lol
I come back to this video a lot, so I'll leave something that you may find slightly humorous.
Demifiend: "You should've gone for the head."
Thor: "Okay." _bonk_ _zap_
Thank you lol
Sometimes it do be like that
Thor: > Are you ready ?
Yes.
Show me your strength
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bruh if I though persona 3 on normal was challenging I can wait to get my ass whooped when I play nocturne
on god i played persona 3 first and the endgame dungeons in p3 are just as difficult as standard starting encounters in older SMTs, the whole ass persona 3-5 line is just a kiddie pool warmup to get you ready for the real shit
The difference between difficulty in P3 is that you can’t control party members and the press turn system is fucked up so the whole thing feels fake. While Nocturne is considered difficult, you have way more options and the ability optimize your party literally as much as you want. I liked P3 for the visual novel aspect, but you will be wayyy more satisfied with Nocturne combat regardless of how hard it might be.
just skip it and play smt 4 or digital devil saga
Ziro you got Demifiend as your profile pic, why would you tell someone to skip Nocturne?
because ive played nocturne and those two games and believe those two to be superior, i just love demi fiends design, nocturne if you ask me is pretty weak compared to smt 4 and even some other non persona ps2 smts, theres barely any plot outside the first few hours and then every 5 hours after that where you bump into another person for like 2 seconds, theres no real alighnments, the techology stuff (demon summoning programs and such) that in my honest opinion defines megami tensei at least in the main games is missing entirely, no voice acting which compounds on the no story issue, yes the press turn battle system is the best turn based system i've ever played with but now that games like digital devil saga and smt 4 exist that A have a far more engaging plot and real voice acting, and yeah digital devil saga doesn't have a demon summoning program either but it's a spin off, it doesn't exactly need one (yes i know not having a summoning program is a dumb complaint but i don't care it bugs me) and smt 4 is basically nocturne but better in every way that isn't battle presentation. long story short nocturne is ok but there are much better smt games now, and that's not talking about persona
0:33 *Thor: DIE!*
Demi-Fiend: Ok **Dies**
I've dipped my toes in the water with persona 5, i feel like the real smt games are going to drown me
I think P5's combat was just as great as other SMTs. Bosses don't have endless hp, and difficulty is improved by other aspects. Maybe don't dive headfirst into Strange Journey or Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga or the Devil Survivor series might be a better choice.
If you’ve mastered Persona 5 on it’s harder difficulties, you might be okay when playing Nocturne on normal, as long as you got some patience.
I went and played persona 3, yet Nocturne is still really tough for me at points. I've only really gotten up to Matador since i have a lot of games I'm trying to play at once
Slenderquil Ramcharge yeah I don’t recommend playing more than 1 RPG simultaneously. Especially a game like Nocturne where it’s really easy to not remember where you’re at and what to do next after not playing for a while.
@@TheBrutalSax I'm already swimming in jrpgs at the moment. Persona 3, persona 4, smt nocturne, the ps2 smt where your whole party becomes demons, final fantasy 6, and chrono trigger are all JRPGS I'm playing on the PS3 alone. And then there's also the ones I'm playing on switch and 3ds as well. I'll have to add smt5 to my list as well when it comes out
Im not surprised, I saw how torturous it can be, someone made a 4 video series where they used no buffs or debuffs on any enemies on Hard Mode, while getting the True Demon Ending, and they got so very far, but they had to use debuffs on the 2 final bosses of that route, even when they maxed out their levels, got the best spirits, and such
Thor : Show me your Strenght BWAAAAAAARGH
Hitoshura and I : **Confused Screaming**
これ狂おしいほど好き
I just beat this first try and for the whole duration of the boss fight i thought "about to get an smt moment like that dude"
Never happened
You really SMT'd hard
The game decides whether you live or die swiftly
The best debuff skill in early game is Fog Breath.
"Die!" - Thor, god of thunder, before sending a warrior to the hall of Valhalla.
>not exploiting kagatsuchi crits at this point
Those are for pussies.
Dark might/ bright might are so op is not fun to use. Without those the game would be perfect
Both smt and madoka fans unite
@@paulstillman4949 more like for people who actually know how to play the game
@@donaldtrump2728 That's such a boring way to play
Yep that was literally me last week 😭