I like throwing a prusik on while im throwing my rope over, and generally setting up. I've watched a couple people fall while attempting to do so, lose their footing even on a ledge where they thought they were safe. taking a few minutes to ensure your tied in at all times is really easy. Not saying you were unsafe, but it's good to show people on videos like this more than 1 way to tie in, as everyone doesnt have a grigri when they start climbing, which i feel top-roping is for more those kinds of people. I like the clove hitch as your secondary, makes it SO easy to equalize your anchor.
sean glasgow some great points man! I’ll probably make another one soon I didn’t anticipate the views this has now so I’d like to go back and do another one with the feed back thanks man I appreciate the critique
Adan Lopez thanks! I tried to condense it as much as possible but wanted to make sure I touched on the small but important parts. I’m glad you liked it!
@@gabesgodinez2233 definitely thought this was a simple and effective demonstration of several key practices. I would totally build this differently, but I like your way better and am going to incorporate your tips. Thanks!!
Very helpful video but not there’s just one thing I didn’t like is that you didn’t stay safe from a fall by staying tied off at all times while getting your anchor ready other then that very helpful
Agreed. You can see he's very comfortable up on the edge but all that work and redundency is useless if you slip and fall during setup not tied off, right?
Hey him! Definitely agree safety first, sadly this video definitely makes me appear much closer to the edge than I actually am, I’m throughout the video at least 10/15 feet from the actual edge, and when I do approach I am on a tether but trust me I do see how it might not seem that way, hopefully I can make another video in the future to convey that and most likely just tether anyways 🤷🏻♂️, before posting this video I showed it to a guide to make sure everything seemed good to him and he new the area and said it was a safe vid but his critique for videos sake was just using both bolts to tether in, (each bolt is about 12 inches in and solid glue ins) but will definitely up date it in the future to convey it better, thanks for the critique much appreciated!
I think if someone is really used to being near the edge, they can be a bit more lax with clipping in while near the edge. But you should really really clip in you drop that rope. What if the rope snags on your leg and trips you or something and you will fall.
I've been really digging using this setup around my neck of the woods where the anchors are commonly a decent distance from the edge. I've been playing around with different techniques but I'd like to hear your feedback for my question. Often I am setting anchors where rappelling is the only safe way down due to the hike up being very steep. What technique do you use to get to your master point where you can rappel down the rest of the way on the climbing rope? I did it today using my grigri to rappel down the static anchor rope, then setup an ATC with an autoblock on the climbing rope but it was kind of a hassle getting past the super beefy knot. Also, climbing new places where you don't quite no where the edge is at yet is kinda shifty because I dont really like rappelling down something I may not be able to climb up easily. Hope that makes sense.
One of the best TR setup videos I have seen by a recreational climber! Nice! Be careful rapping on one bolt during setup... And trust that clove hitch- it doesn't need a backup! A few efficiency tweaks could make your setup faster, but overall pretty darn good!
Aron Stock thanks man I appreciate the feedback! It’s always tough making these, I do it some people say it’s over kill I don’t some people say I’m not safe 🤷🏻♂️ but I agree with you just for videos sake better too much than not enough, shame video makes me appear to close to the edge because that’s the one thing I’m hearing the most of, I’ll have to make another one in the future and try to do a better job and showing my efforts towards safety thanks a lot for the feedback man!
A helpful safety tip, when you walk to the edge, that extra rope you can use your gri gri to walk close and be protected and not obstruct or weight your anchor system. Just one extra way to safe close to the edge. It also allows your to safely walk over the edge if needed for any rescue situation.
I'm just getting into this stuff. It was my first instinct to find it weird using a clove hitch where you did as it seems to me like it's a knot that can slip easily, especially falling on it all day (though I was happy to see you backed it up). Is it pretty common to use a clove in a system like this? Noob asking experienced climbers...
Timothé Verrette hey man! Don’t worry I felt the same when I started climbing you’ll even see in my comments another climber saying it was redundant to back it up because he feels it’s so solid by itself as most experienced climbers do, so yes to answer your question it is very common and extremely reliable I would recommend looking up the dmm climbing anchor test video and that might help out a bit, most climbers that do multi pitch big wall climbing will also use clove hitches to not only tie them selfs when they reach a anchor but probably will use it in a part of the anchor system they build 👍🏼
This is an unsafe demonstration of a safe system. Why unclip your safety line at all at ANY time? It's so easy to FORGET that you have unclipped when you're standing way too close to the edge there. I don't care how much of an expert you think you are. There are many experts who are now dead because they didn't practice what they preached. You could be one of them. Clip up and stay clipped fella.
Hey love that you've produce a HD video BUT Saftey Saftey Saftey where is it? your way too close to the edge stepping on rope with no personal saftey line
hey daniel thanks for watching the video! i know in the video its Very deceiving where the edge seems to be, but in most of the video im a good 10 feet away from the Actual edge , i am kneeling near the achor majority of the time and when i do approach close to the Actual Edge of the climb to adjust the masterpoint i am on a safety line that is clipped into one of the solid anchor points, not sure if you saw that. but with all that said i definitely appreciate the concern and know where your coming from, and want to lead by example so im sure in the future i will remake this video with that in mind. i think most people i climb with think im over the top with safety as is (which is why i made this video, seeing as there are soo many unsafe practices i see at this location) and pretty much every person that sets up at this location is not clipped into any safety line ever including rei instructors but i understand your concern and thank you for not disliking the video without giving me a chance to explain. much love and respect! gabriel Show less REPLY
That setup doesn't need a rope guard for where it's rubbing on the rock? When is that an issue? I've seen many people not use guards for certain contact points and then they do for others... Is it just preference? I may be a chicken shit, but anytime the rope touches something abrasive I get nervous... Hell, I'm nervous on just one strand of rope! I'm sure more exposure will get me less unnerved... But I have a healthy respect for gravity 🤣.. thanks for the video and the helpful, clear content.
Rope guards never “hurt” this is sand stone and is relatively soft compared to granite and other rocks with sand stone it’s more about the sand getting into the rope and over time wearing it out from the inside but that also happens from the rope touching the ground without a mat it’s just part of it and where washing and maintaining your rope comes in. I definitely protect my rope in most set ups especially granite but that’s my personal preference thanks for the love!
Always check the system after a few climbs if you’re going to stay using it. Looks ok for rope rubbing (ie distributed over a lot of rock, legs not too long)
Jacob Murphy hey man your right I’ll make sure to add it in, sorry about the sound quality it’s my first video so I don’t a mic set up or anything and its right next to a major road but hopefully you were able to hear me enough outside from that, thanks for the feedback!
I like throwing a prusik on while im throwing my rope over, and generally setting up. I've watched a couple people fall while attempting to do so, lose their footing even on a ledge where they thought they were safe. taking a few minutes to ensure your tied in at all times is really easy. Not saying you were unsafe, but it's good to show people on videos like this more than 1 way to tie in, as everyone doesnt have a grigri when they start climbing, which i feel top-roping is for more those kinds of people. I like the clove hitch as your secondary, makes it SO easy to equalize your anchor.
sean glasgow some great points man! I’ll probably make another one soon I didn’t anticipate the views this has now so I’d like to go back and do another one with the feed back thanks man I appreciate the critique
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I couldn't believe such a long video for a simple two bolt top rope anchor. But actually, this was a great tutorial!
Adan Lopez thanks! I tried to condense it as much as possible but wanted to make sure I touched on the small but important parts. I’m glad you liked it!
@@gabesgodinez2233 definitely thought this was a simple and effective demonstration of several key practices. I would totally build this differently, but I like your way better and am going to incorporate your tips. Thanks!!
Very helpful video but not there’s just one thing I didn’t like is that you didn’t stay safe from a fall by staying tied off at all times while getting your anchor ready other then that very helpful
Agreed. You can see he's very comfortable up on the edge but all that work and redundency is useless if you slip and fall during setup not tied off, right?
Yeah I noticed that too. Complacency causes accidents, even if you feel comfortable you should still follow best practice.
Hey him! Definitely agree safety first, sadly this video definitely makes me appear much closer to the edge than I actually am, I’m throughout the video at least 10/15 feet from the actual edge, and when I do approach I am on a tether but trust me I do see how it might not seem that way, hopefully I can make another video in the future to convey that and most likely just tether anyways 🤷🏻♂️, before posting this video I showed it to a guide to make sure everything seemed good to him and he new the area and said it was a safe vid but his critique for videos sake was just using both bolts to tether in, (each bolt is about 12 inches in and solid glue ins) but will definitely up date it in the future to convey it better, thanks for the critique much appreciated!
Good stuff. Just one system of the several out there. I'd also use a rope protector over the edge to minimise rubbing of the rope over the rock.
Great system. Useful video. Thanks
I think if someone is really used to being near the edge, they can be a bit more lax with clipping in while near the edge. But you should really really clip in you drop that rope. What if the rope snags on your leg and trips you or something and you will fall.
I've been really digging using this setup around my neck of the woods where the anchors are commonly a decent distance from the edge. I've been playing around with different techniques but I'd like to hear your feedback for my question. Often I am setting anchors where rappelling is the only safe way down due to the hike up being very steep. What technique do you use to get to your master point where you can rappel down the rest of the way on the climbing rope? I did it today using my grigri to rappel down the static anchor rope, then setup an ATC with an autoblock on the climbing rope but it was kind of a hassle getting past the super beefy knot. Also, climbing new places where you don't quite no where the edge is at yet is kinda shifty because I dont really like rappelling down something I may not be able to climb up easily. Hope that makes sense.
One of the best TR setup videos I have seen by a recreational climber! Nice! Be careful rapping on one bolt during setup... And trust that clove hitch- it doesn't need a backup! A few efficiency tweaks could make your setup faster, but overall pretty darn good!
Aron Stock thanks man I appreciate the feedback! It’s always tough making these, I do it some people say it’s over kill I don’t some people say I’m not safe 🤷🏻♂️ but I agree with you just for videos sake better too much than not enough, shame video makes me appear to close to the edge because that’s the one thing I’m hearing the most of, I’ll have to make another one in the future and try to do a better job and showing my efforts towards safety thanks a lot for the feedback man!
A helpful safety tip, when you walk to the edge, that extra rope you can use your gri gri to walk close and be protected and not obstruct or weight your anchor system. Just one extra way to safe close to the edge. It also allows your to safely walk over the edge if needed for any rescue situation.
Hey jerod! Not sure if you saw but that’s exactly what I did when I approached the edge hope you saw that, but thanks for the comment! I appreciate it
Super helpful boss. Thanks for making this video.
Excellent video
Awesome video! Thanks for the instructions!
I'm just getting into this stuff. It was my first instinct to find it weird using a clove hitch where you did as it seems to me like it's a knot that can slip easily, especially falling on it all day (though I was happy to see you backed it up). Is it pretty common to use a clove in a system like this? Noob asking experienced climbers...
Timothé Verrette hey man! Don’t worry I felt the same when I started climbing you’ll even see in my comments another climber saying it was redundant to back it up because he feels it’s so solid by itself as most experienced climbers do, so yes to answer your question it is very common and extremely reliable I would recommend looking up the dmm climbing anchor test video and that might help out a bit, most climbers that do multi pitch big wall climbing will also use clove hitches to not only tie them selfs when they reach a anchor but probably will use it in a part of the anchor system they build 👍🏼
Great video!
This is an unsafe demonstration of a safe system. Why unclip your safety line at all at ANY time? It's so easy to FORGET that you have unclipped when you're standing way too close to the edge there. I don't care how much of an expert you think you are. There are many experts who are now dead because they didn't practice what they preached. You could be one of them. Clip up and stay clipped fella.
Static rope for climbing?
Hey love that you've produce a HD video BUT Saftey Saftey Saftey where is it? your way too close to the edge stepping on rope with no personal saftey line
hey daniel thanks for watching the video! i know in the video its Very deceiving where the edge seems to be, but in most of the video im a good 10 feet away from the Actual edge , i am kneeling near the achor majority of the time and when i do approach close to the Actual Edge of the climb to adjust the masterpoint i am on a safety line that is clipped into one of the solid anchor points, not sure if you saw that. but with all that said i definitely appreciate the concern and know where your coming from, and want to lead by example so im sure in the future i will remake this video with that in mind. i think most people i climb with think im over the top with safety as is (which is why i made this video, seeing as there are soo many unsafe practices i see at this location) and pretty much every person that sets up at this location is not clipped into any safety line ever including rei instructors but i understand your concern and thank you for not disliking the video without giving me a chance to explain.
much love and respect!
gabriel
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The first thing he does is clip into self belay with an added catastrophe knot. Watch again.
@@adanlopez5795 yeah and then undoes it and never puts himself back on after he makes that clove hitch which he shouldve
That setup doesn't need a rope guard for where it's rubbing on the rock? When is that an issue? I've seen many people not use guards for certain contact points and then they do for others... Is it just preference? I may be a chicken shit, but anytime the rope touches something abrasive I get nervous... Hell, I'm nervous on just one strand of rope! I'm sure more exposure will get me less unnerved... But I have a healthy respect for gravity 🤣.. thanks for the video and the helpful, clear content.
Rope guards never “hurt” this is sand stone and is relatively soft compared to granite and other rocks with sand stone it’s more about the sand getting into the rope and over time wearing it out from the inside but that also happens from the rope touching the ground without a mat it’s just part of it and where washing and maintaining your rope comes in. I definitely protect my rope in most set ups especially granite but that’s my personal preference thanks for the love!
@@gabesgodinez2233 thank you for the fast reply! All good info... Happy and safe climbing man... Appreciate your time.
Always check the system after a few climbs if you’re going to stay using it. Looks ok for rope rubbing (ie distributed over a lot of rock, legs not too long)
Just moved to LA from Utah. The lack of climbing areas kills me but this place seems cool just heard about it
Where is this at ? That Harly is close as fuck
Great video! Are you at Stoney Point?
steve yesssir!
Great vid man.. Wher is that? Beautiful area...
David Restivo Stoney point in la man! Right off a Main Street hence the traffic noise, it’s a rad place to hit up and access easy! Thanks!
Interesting.
please make a video with 3 points :)
Felix Gustafsson hey sorry just seeing this now let me know if you still would like that!
Gabe S Godinez yeah Gabe. This one was really well explained. Looking forward to more from you.
I would appreciate seeing a 3-point as well!
Could have been better if He is tied up on a safety line while doing it. Accident awaiting to happend
anxiety
This couldn't be more complicated
too much sound pollution🤭
Good video tho
And you didn’t tag the links to get static rope
Jacob Murphy hey man your right I’ll make sure to add it in, sorry about the sound quality it’s my first video so I don’t a mic set up or anything and its right next to a major road but hopefully you were able to hear me enough outside from that, thanks for the feedback!