Stephen A. breaks down why Markelle Fultz isn't a bust yet | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Jay Williams debate how Orlando Magic guard and former No. 1 overall pick Markelle Fultz can avoid being labeled a bust.
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Talent is clearly there but just has to overcome some of his mental barriers. Should look at Billups and Lowry as motivation. Both took awhile before reaching their potential and becoming well-rounded PGs. Still 22, Fultz should come right. Organization stability is a huge factor too. Hope Orlando stay the course with Fultz and help keep his development on track.
Mental barrier? He has a legit injury
Pre Law I think he’s saying the mental barrier came from after the injury. It’s like when people who recover from an ACL tear, once they first recover they’ve gotta learn to trust their bones and muscles again cause they’re scared they might re-injure themselves
Pre Law Gilbert arenas said he had a motorcycle incident after summer league and they covered it up by blaming his new trainer. Gil said his shot is gone forever. U can see he struggles with lifting his arms above his shoulders
It seems that he is still trying to figure out how to play the best way he can with a TOS injury still somewhat present. That's a difficult process to undergo with a spotlight on you. While he tries to make the best of his situation, it'll come with highs and lows in confidence and in belief in himself and belief that his injury will get better as his abilities may waver over time while being treated. I should know, I have TOS myself.
@@dpfutbol whats tos
he wanted to say KWAAAAAMMEEEEEE BROWN soooooo bad
Bruh I was thinking the same thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kwameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brown Never gets old
Andrea Bargnani
Anthony Bennett
😂😂😂😂😂
This dude called Lonzo a bust like 10 games into his career.
Lonzo still a bust tho
@pearboii II For a 2nd overall pick, he is a bust. Sorry, but he is.
@@linmac2137 If Lonzo is a bust then Fultz is even worse.
12.4 pts 6.2 Reb 7.0 Ast is not a bust. Especially when you're playing with Ingram and Zion
@@TheKingJason3 as a 2nd pick in like his 3rd year yes it is
S.A.S was restrained from yelling KWAAAAME BROWN
Kwame and Anthony Bennett are the 2 biggest bust ever
On my momma
Slava medvrdkenko
Injuries don’t make you a bust. Just my opinion
He going to ball out in the playoffs
SAS: Not gonna name names cause Im not feeling cruel on this particular day.
also SAS: Kwame Brown and Anthony Bennett.
He's the starting PG on a playoff team at 21. Obviously he's not turned out like we thought he would but Fultz can still be nice
why did he hold gang signs when he was drafted, good kid LOL
Fultz went through a blender of bad luck. If he was a bust, he would've quit. It was that devastating to his game. The fact he still showed out a bit late is impressive.
I have what he had with the shoulder pain. It’s insane. I can’t even throw anything overhand. In fact I can’t even throw darts without sharp pain shooting up my whole arm causing it to get numb for like 20 secs.
Exactly I remember he had a triple double and dub on the lakers. Something usually not seen from a “bust”
I was happy to see this kid shine a little bit throughout this season. I want to see him succeed! We shall see.
But Lonzo is LOL, this guy doesn’t make sense.
Casual
You can see glimpses of how good he can be at points (for example that game earlier vs the Lakers). Mentally he has to get back to that confidence he had in college
If ppl call Wiggins a bust then fultz is a super bust he should have never been picked over Tatum Smh he is a mid 1st rd pick
Max is a genius. Zion, "The Phenomenon". Sounds catchy.
Markelle Fultz, Chuma Okeke, and Vucevic could be a dominant young trio
He had a pinched nerve and was clearly recovering from injury and compensating for it with the change to his shot. He's still great around the basket and knows how to penetrate. Still managed to get a triple double early on and knows how to be effective. Before the season was halted he showed growing signs of confidence and his new shot looked better. He isn't a bust because his talent failed to translate over to the league, he's on the verge of becoming one because injuries/rushed recovery are limiting the things he's able to do. The potential is still there but its diminishing. It's almost another Greg Oden story. Vast amounts of potential locked behind nagging injuries.
Even J Will still feel a little bad for him.
Stephen a said it was embarrassing when your free throws causes your own team violations but I think Stephen A should be embarrassed for saying a couple years ago that Markelle Fultz was the biggest bust of all time. Anyone recall?
he could turn it around but as of right now he is definitely a bust. 12 ppg in your 3rd year as the number 1 pick? can't shoot like he was projected to coming out of college. that's a huge bust.
and i'm tired of people saying philly wasn't a good situation for him. he was the perfect fit for them. he didn't even have to be great, he just had to be solid and eventually develop into the third star - not a tall task for someone drafted number 1 overall. tatum thrived on a contending team, why couldn't fultz with teammates who were barely any older than him?
Max said he gotta atleast make 1 all star game to be considered not a bust and even then may be still considered a bust 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He played well last season and showed noticeable development, just give the kid time
These guys don't know Markelle that well. You can't judge a player if you didn't watch him that much.
Bruh anyone who has been watching Stephen A for years had to laugh when he said Kwame Brown. 😂
If Fultz isn't a bust then that makes Baker Mayfield a Pro Bowler.
If he can stay consistent and get on the court, he willdevelop nicely🙏🏽
How can Stephen A who never played a day of NBA basketball call any player a bust?
Played pretty well this season. If he doesn’t make a huge jump next season, I’m calling him a bust.
He needs to produce at a higher level and become a top option for Orlando, even if it's in a 6th man role. In terms of a 1st overall pick though, he seems to be a bust, but anything's possible
Markelle is still holding on, Just needs that confidence boost it looks like he believes in himself more in Orlando.
Rooting for him 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
He's balling right now
"You gotta give the boy a chance to grow some" J. Cole said it best. Guys get labeled bust if they don't contribute instantly.
anyone who thinks he's a bust just go watch what he did to the lakers @ the staples center... 🤷♂️
But SAS called fultz a bust one year ago already 🤦🏻♂️
I dont see how anyone can consider fultz a bust and not lonzo. When fultz has played he has looked like a much better prospect...he just hasnt played many games
Markelle plays in his own speed but I believe he can work wonders in time.
Max definition of bust is absolutely laughable. You are not a bust if you dont make an all star game. Is Andrew Bogut a bust? He didn't make an all star game and was a massive contributor on winning teams
Didn't Stephen A. call him bust before?
Proved him wrong
No molly , love it.
When he was a Sixer he kept callin him a bust.....
coulda sworn stephen a called him a bust before
Led by Gordon and Fultz? What about Vucevic
After watching only Shannon and Skip for the past few weeks, its incredibly hard to come back to first take.. I feel Stephen A has always been to emotional with his opinions, and as Uncle Shannon would say, any decision made by emotion is fundamentally wrong.
How you mention Anthony Bennett and Kwame Brown but not Greg Oden?
How you mention those guys but none of them play his position?
I feel like you can only get the tittle "bust" if you were fully healthy, didnt live up to the hype and you just didn't develop into the player you were supposed to be.. The man has had a terrible shoulder injury we haven't really been able to see him play at a 100% in the NBA
Busts FOR A NUMBER 1 OVERALL: Kwame Brown, Michael Olowokandi, Andrew Bogut, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett
How is Andrew Wiggins a bust?
@@kareemauguste6720 #1 pick must be an all-star minimum
I know it’s 2 different sports but y’all will keep hope with Markell and keep giving him chances but will call Baker Mayfield a bust after 1 bad season
I wonder when will people finally admit that Fultz and Lonzo are busts being the first and second pick lmao
I wonder when will people like you that every NBA player isn't good right away for being the first and second pick.They'll be good in a few years.
Tbh He was drafted to the wrong team they already had a starting “PG” so I think Celtics should have took him and 76ers should have took Tatum and both teams would be still good rn ❗️
Lol he was literally useless his first two seasons and is an average role player at best right now. No one should have drafted him in the first round. He sucks so much now people give him ovations for making free throws seriously as a sixer he was getting ovations for making the easiest shot in the game
I thought sas said he was a bust doe 🤷🏾♂️
I think the magic need a new gm just look at the trades and free agency pick ups oh yea and the draft picks. To get Fultz for what they gave up was good but the team needs a shake up.
They need scoring and shooting they have too many defensive players that cant score.
Thank u
Why did he call lonzo a bust then lol
He not a bust because he got his first chance this year
Nobody said he was
Ging is a good father I mean it’s kinda the topic tho...
@@dasayvionharrell6533 a lot of ppl said he was a bust
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@The Book Of ƬЯXPXP Lonzo ain't Good, but not a bust
I think the Magic is the perfect place to develop his talent.
Agreed
Well they don't have any other guards so yeah
@@JourdanChaney dj augustine?
he need to play behind steph so he can become a rising star like cook
Develop his talent, then skip town for a serious contender, like every other good player that played there... I really feel bad for Magic fans.
Trading for Markelle Fultz is the best move the Magic made in a long time. Whether he pans out or not, they traded nothing for a young player with tons of upside
Yessir
I wanted to keep him but, the media in sports made it very hard to do so.
Xavier 76th Man he also quit on us
@@vinnybrown1122 no he didn't, his health issues were real, but the team needed to move on and the kid needed a place to rebuild himself physically and mentally.
Traded nothing for something HE CANT PLAY he got small hands. He doesn’t have a post move he can put to memory
He literally was calling him a bust for two years
hes improved a lot inbetween
Exactly
He's as bipolar as Colin Howard
Spaz McGee lmao barely.
At the time he was.
He isn’t a bust cause he hasn’t upset Stephen A yet
Lol!
@@koreypaul6698 Unlike KWAME Brown
Lol I mean he did at first.
@@geoffrey1012 Stephen A hates Kwame lol! I did see the dude love when he was on the Lakers. He just looked so scared out there..MJ ruined him. Now we know how he is in practice and there's no way Kwame was ready for that...
If he ever gets in trouble for weed it's over😂
I never stopped liking him it shows that he's putting in a lot of hard work. He's not a bust yet!
Hard work aint matter he have no talent...
Alen Zmaj You ever heard the saying.....”Hard Work Beats Talent, when Talent does not Work Hard” ????🤔👁👄👁
@@irunfxst I agree 100%
@@irunfxst that the dumest thing u can ever say... People who have talent will probably work harder then people without talent...
@@nelAjamZ If you don't think he has talent no one should take your basketball opinion serious. You're clueless
In a parallel universe , Markelle Fultz never had that injury, stayed with the sixers, and he blocks kawhis game winner last year.
Fultz actually closed out game 4 and the Sixers win in 6 and beat the Bucks and the injured Warriors and are NBA Champions
In that same universe kwame brown has big hands and is the bill russell of the nba
So in 2k?
U must be talking about the parallel universe where all the bad players are good and all the good players are bad
So 7' embiid couldnt block the shot but 6'3" fultz wouldve? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Stephen A referred to Fultz as a “colossal bust” before LMAO
Facts like don’t switch up now... keep that same energy two years ago, never gave dude a chance at all
Dat aint how it work. LONZO was a bust too, but he turned his career around. Sports Analyst supposed to call it as its seen, not emotionally based.
I mean he was a colossal bust for Philly just cuz they could’ve had Tatum with Ben and Joel now they got nothing. He can still recover and have a nice career tho.
Nobody knew about his shoulder injury,so it just seemed like he was just bad
@@basedtrell75 one of the biggest problems with America is the idea that if you were wrong before, you have to keep being wrong to "stay consistent" or "keep that same energy." Nah man, if you had a wrong take, fix it.
This was his first full season wasn’t it
Yep
Basically his rookie year
If you can say "full season" lol
When SAS was mentioning no1 bust picks, Man I thought he was gonna go on his KWAME BROWN bonafide scrub rant
Did SAS not literally call Fultz a bust before? Lmao
Pretty sure he did lol
He called him the biggest bust in history like 2 years ago lol
Yep but fultz Proving em all wrong
Analysts change their mind 24/7 and expect us to just forget lol
They're wrong most of the time
He’s still young and has a big upside
AbM Flow bro it’s his first full year actually being apart of a team’s rotation, he’s on a good trajectory
Most ppl didn't watch him play but he has some impressive moments.. If that shoulder thing can be an issue of the past he'll be a perennial all star.
Yeah, but he needs to become a superstar. Look, Fultz is a pro. He's also getting paid millions. People should not give Fultz the same multitude of chances we just give a regular person who didn't quite turn out the way we had hoped. Those people don't have the luxury of having every resource available to them so they can be the best that they can be. Superstar, perrenial All Star, or bust for me.
@@369pendulum I hope Fultz proves me wrong, but I just doubt it. I watch him play and he doesn't have that IT factor. He hasn't done anything that made me go ""Yup, he's the next All Star/Superstar." He's done very good things on the court, but nothing special.
Was glad he got to go to Orlando. He needed time outta the spotlight of the 76ers to just focus on his game and he's doing just that. Fultz will be fine
Stephen A: “Lonzo is a bust”
Stephen A: “Fultz isn’t a bust yet”
😒
Well yeah
@@ssj-rose4572 Lonzo is better then Fultz at the moment.
@@jakep1979 lonzo is one of the best pg's currently
Yea he’s such a hypocrite
They're both busts. If you go Top 5 you should at least be an All Star. If you're Top 2 then superstar expectations come with being drafted so high. These guys are pros who get paid millions to be GREAT, not average, and so the expectations and judgments are fair.
He literally can do EVERYTHING at solid or elite level. All he needs is his 3pt jumper back, and it's curtains
Dude is nowhere near “elite”. Stop it 😂😂
Solid, not elite yet
Elite??? Cmon man I think the kid is doing well but this is a stretch and a half. Hes talented. But elite?? Na man
That’s a fact .. elite with everything besides his 3pt shot . Watch what Steven A says next year when he’s an all star
Cedric Kekeke he said he does everything else besides shooting 3s at an solid or elite level .. passing .. ball handing .. defending and finishing
These the same guys who called Trae Young a bust halfway through his first season. Lmao gtfoh
Steve Clifford does it again 👏🏻 arguably one of the most underrated coaches in the league. Vogel had the similar squad and was incapable of manifesting any consistency. In comes Clifford and yes, it’s the East, their five games from .500. But to take fultz, and create better confidence and play. The guy can coach
Indeed. His substitution and his lack of offensive knowledge is his weaknesses
SAS is the one who called Fultz a bust before so he shouldn’t be talking gtfoh
Omar Kabba that doesn’t mean we just forget what SAS said before, SAS calling Fultz a bust that early was ridiculous in the first place, he really thinks we just forgot about that
Kidaan SENGHHHHHH
Arshdeep Singh no it wasn’t dude he wasn’t just dealing with injuries his shot was completely fucked on top of that forgetting about his shoulder injuries he literally had mental issues pertaining to his game. All in the midst of a guy like Tatum in Boston balling out. If Philly woulda had Tatum they might’ve definitely been in the finals.
To be honest, ever since he left Philly, he has been trending upwards. Granted, it's very gradual and slow, but it's still upwards similarly to Lonzo. He could be a solid guard in the NBA, he's tall for the 1 spot, has a ridiculously long wingspan, freakish athleticism and is ridiculously strong for a guard. There was this play that even though it was an offensive foul that the refs let him get away with, he was driving to the basket and he pushed LeBron out of the way like nothing. I don't know about star and he will always have scrutiny for being selected above Tatum and Mitchell, but the dude can be solid guard in the NBA.
Stephen A doesn't give any cred to Lonzo Ball... he's really been putting in work this season.
True but what Stephen A think of is that this is the guy the lakers picked over Tatum you know Stephen a also doesn’t give credit to Luka or Ja people who deserve it
38% from three, shooting over 6 three pointers a game. He need to give Lonzo the credit he deserves plus he only had a month to train before this years season.
Nathaniel what Stephen thinks of is that this is the guy you picked over Tatum
@@keishlamontes2190 True, Tatum is great!
He hates lavar
Idc what anyone says.. Stephen A Smith needs to stop acting like he knows everything..he has been wrong all his life..
They called him crazy, when he actually had a real injury. The should actually apologize.,
Man you should never call any one and done prospect a bust after 3yrs at least we should give 5 yrs for guys like fultz lonzo etc
He's averaging 12 points per game. Kwame Brown averaged 5 point and Anthony Bennett averaged six. I doubt he could be as bad as them.
Even in his rookie season(which it technically wasnt it was like a reshirt season) he still averaged 7 points which is better then those 2 did
He was obviously injured his jumpshot was so pure and smooth in college these anaylisy call everyone a bust until they win championships 🤦
Jay William's about to start his point? *clicks off video*
@0:20 Magic are led by Nikola Vucevic not Aaron Gordon. Don't disrespect him like that. I know he's not a flashy player but he's their best player. ESPN needs to fix that right away.
They have Jay Williams who was a bust talking about this topic 💀
If anybody knows about a bust he would
Jay Williams didn't get a chance to prove if he was a bust or not. He falls in the category of "what if" not a bust.
@@cannibalmanimal2336 Yes but that doesn't make him a bust but he is stupid for messing up his opportunity. Anyone who watched Jay Will play at Duke knew he was going to be a solid NBA player.
Jay was not a bust by any means
The fact that you Jay Will was a bust shows u don’t know.... the facts!
The Orlando Magic have a hidden gem 💎
Markelle never was a bust it’s just that when he got drafted by philly there was so much expectations and pressure on him markelle is gonna be fine in Orlando 💯✊🏽
The problem was that Philly drafted him #1 as a point guard just to have Ben Simmons start at point guard. That draft choice made no sense and it messed with Fultz's confidence.
Jeff Weltman sure like making trades with PHI
Goodbye Stephen A, last year you LITERALLY called him the BIGGEST bust of all-time 🤦🏽♂️
He’s not a bust he’s just now getting a chance with Orlando and he’s doing his thing 🗣💯
Kwame Brown. That's all I needed to hear😂😂😂😂
Kelle gonna have one of the biggest comeback stories ever.
Hes not a bust yet but he still hasn't regained his shooting form yet you see the idea when the Sixers drafted Fultz was to put another playmaker next to Simmons that could run pnr with him could play off ball as well to create a Kyrie LeBron type of offensive dynamic his shooting went to sht Sixers had trouble playing him because he couldn't shoot fts or shoot the basketball well and you already have Simmons a non shooter Embiid not great at 3s so understandably Sixers had to give up on him not believing in his potential anymore he seemed like a broken player the potential to be a all-star is still there hes a really talented player
This is awkward. Jay Williams was a huge BUST LOL
Having a career ending injury even though it was self inflicted before their 2nd year should disqualify anyone from being a bust!
theonemrham nah bro, he’s a bust
How was jason a bust? Jason had a great rookie year and during the offseason he almost got his left leg amputated. You have to suck to be a bust clown. You weirdos in the comments always speaking on sports as if you know what your saying.
1:46 Kwame Brown ? 😂😂
Oh, stop it, Stephen A. He hasn’t been staying healthy for the majority of his career
Did you watch or keep track of him during this past season? He played 64 games & played well
Pre Law he’s a bust, stop it.
sorry, idgaf. If he was a bust he wouldn’t be starting rn
Fultz going places in a few years yall watch. He reppin the DMV out here.
Dang, keep her lol
He been ballin on the magic
If 12 PPG is considered "ballin" for a #1 pick then that's pretty sad lmao
@Matt R did u seen him on philly when he was injured? Shut up clown, clearly u don’t know anything
@@youalreadyknow5003 calm down you get triggered so easily lmao, he still hasn't fixed his shot and he had more of a mental block then anything, no one in history has ever lost their jumper as bad as he did. He's not even injured anymore and he still has the ugliest form in the league
@@youalreadyknow5003 not Ballin but not a bust.
@Matt R yeah idk how he messed up his shot tbh
He’s gonna be a good player
He's a bust for a 1st overall pick for the 76ers... That being said will be a great player for the magic!
Markelle can play. Period. He is coming back. Its all mental. Loved that take on LeBron... nice.