Alexander was the Cousin Oliver of TNG & the writers took out upon him every narrative grievance they could. And Worf was the stand in for every viewer who had to endure Oliver :)
The worst parent in "Starfleet" is Janeway, she abandoned her 🦎 3 children in an alien swamp to fend for themselves while she runaway 70,000 light-years and never thought about them again. At least Worf made sure "Someone" raised his child for him. But the worst parent in "Star Trek" award does to Garak's father!
1:25 I find it funny that just before this line from Data, Geordi says that this will be like seeing Zefram Cochrane engage the first warp drive. Little does he know, HE GETS TO BE THERE! (in First Contact Film.)
In a (fake) deleted scene from First Contact: Geordi: Data! I told you this would be great! Data: When did you say that? Geordi: When we were testing the Solitan Wave... Some years ago... Data: Hmm... So you did. Geordi: I'm still talking to the wrong crowd.
Fun fact: I actually recorded that line separately because during editing, I realized I needed to include that part. It very well *could* become a recurring line.
I would be gob smacked if this was dumped in my lap. "We're coming for a visit. Oh btw, here's your kid, happy hunting ... I mean parenting". I've often thought about why the fed Star Fleet lets children go on this ship. Btw, a ship that boldly goes where no one has gone before sure does a lot of running diplomats around. On a personal note, awesome you like tea. My friend, someone I view as a little brother, sent me some green te from Japan when he was working there. Now that he's maried and living in Japan, I'll have to ask him to send me some more.
Ooooh! If you got someone that can send you tea directly from Japan, that's great! It seems to always be fresher if it's from Japan. Do you know what kind of tea it is?
I'm in agreement with your take on Worf as a dad. My big thing is why wasn't he told he was a dad in the first place?!? Anyways, nice touch adding Victor Sullivan in your video!!
I wouldn't hold the birthday against him at all. The truth is that though (for whatever it's worth) I've been called a good father multiple times by various people in family and out, I don't always remember the birthdays for all of my kids. Now I have six of them, so it's a lot harder than having a single child like Worf, but this is a child who has not been living on the ship and who has just re-entered Worf's day-to- day life within the past several hours or *maybe*, depending on how we interpret things, days. Having six kids I can say with confidence that if someone suddenly finds out they have a child that there are many more important things to spend one's time and energy sorting out before worrying about when the kid's birthday is. More importantly, we don't even know if K'ehleyr even told Worf when his birthday was before she was killed. It's entirely possible that Sergey and Helena would have had to do some detective work when they got Alexander back to earth just to figure out when his birthday was. Overall, I think the conclusion here is the fundamentally correct way to look at this: Worf was inexperienced. His most questionable choices as a father are ones he makes earlier on in Reunion and New Ground, and as the series moves on he definitely becomes a better and better father, culminating in A Fistful of Datas where I think their relationship looks like a perfectly healthy and normal father/son relationship and First Born where he seems to handle a lot of difficult situations fairly well. In DS9 's Sons and Daughters we see that they have apparently had a bit of a falling out and that is maybe a knock against Worf, BUT the place we find Worf and Alexander starting off in that episode is also pretty starkly removed from anything that we would ever expect based upon where things are between them by the end of TNG and so it's hard to judge anything because it's clear that something pretty significant had to have happened in the interim which we'd really need to know about to make any kind of meaningful estimation of Worf's responsibility in the matter.
I never knew Alexander had been recasted 😮 "Despite the fact that "Reunion" took place only a little over a year after "The Emissary," Alexander appeared to be about 4 or 5 years old when he made his first appearance; Alexander would also be recast in later appearances on TNG, appearing to be about 10 years old by the show's fifth season. The fictional reasoning for this rapid development was that Klingon children simply age faster than human children. The real-world reasoning was a little trickier - child labor laws made working with a toddler in thick prosthetic makeup prohibitive, and the show's producer's found the original actor, Jon Steur, to be a little too gentle to portray Worf's rebellious son, resulting in the casting of Brian Bonsall for the majority of TNG's run." - Screenrant
What's even weirder is that Alexander was recast for a photo with Worf for DS9, and then recast again as a teenager. There were like four different actors that played Alexander... and that's not even counting K'mtar in TNG.
It needs to be stated that Klingons grow and mature much faster than humans, being fully grown before the age of 10. And they remain capable warriors for between 100-125 years.
On a long enough timeline of videos, I think you'd enjoy taking the piss out of Colonel Tigh (BSG). Oh, I love him as a character. I (sadly) can relate to him. But as a drunk XO, dude's a mess, haha.
This video was a good and level-headed take. No one is BORN knowing how to be a good father. You need time and the opportunity to make *some* mistakes before you figure things out. IMO Worf did the best he could in the
I call that 'pancake baby syndrome.' No matter what precautions one takes, regarding the temp in the pan/griddle, the first pancakes are never done as well as subsequent ones. Alexander was Worf's first (& only, RIP, Jadzia) child, and he got 'insta-fathered,' to boot, getting thrown into fatherhood with little to no prep (when my mother was expecting me, my parents took classes on infant care, but Worf had no build-up, no time to get used to the idea, & learn what to do, he just got handed his kid, at a moment's notice), so mistakes are inevitable....hey, he wasn't perfect, but at least the kid survived, so....win.
Worf isn't a bad father, this was the 1st time a single Dad is shown in ST, until DS9. Sisko knew Jake for all his life, Worf missed the early time so he couldn't immediately bond with him. He just did the best he could. Of course Alexander isn't even mentioned in Picard S3 (I need to double check that).
Worf is not a bad father because of this episode. You are correct, Worf is an inexperienced father who is doing the best he can. It's everything he does after this episode, or rather everything he doesn't do. When he goes to DS9, he dumps Alexander back with his grandparents and basically forgets he exists until Alexander comes back and reminds him. Alexander calls Worf out for always sending him away and being an absentee dad, and he is 100% correct to do so.
Fair point. I ended up cutting it from the video, but I had a small mention about Worf sending Alexander *back* to his parents for DS9 when the whole reason he went to live with Worf on the Enterprise was because his parents were ready to just be grandparents. Talk about a step backwards.
@@JanelleWaz I wish we could've seen Jadzia as a step-mom...all those lifetimes of experience, including parenting experience, would've been helpful, & I'm sure Jadzia would've delivered the medicine with an equal dose of humor & fun.
This is a wonderful “counter-point” to Steve Shives’s video about Worf being the worst father in the Universe. He wasn’t. Kheylar should have given Worf a little call. . . “umm honey, what happens on the holodeck didn’t quite stay on the holodeck. . . It’s in my womb!” 😂 He could have at least had some warning! Kheylar is my favorite character in Star Trek, but keeping Alexander from Worf and then springing him on his dad was wrong.
Yeah, I can't help but agree. As much as I dislike Worf (for the record I don't hate him, he's just not for me) I agree a lot with Jenelle's points. As for Shives... yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what he says. He strikes me as the kind of guy who treats his opinions as fact.
That's a point that I thought of that didn't make it into the video. K'Ehleyr does bear some responsibility for not telling Worf about Alexander. She did tell him eventually, but not telling him made things more difficult for him when he had to raise Alexander alone. If Worf had a say, Alexander would have been taught Klingon values early on, and I don't think Worf would have had so much resistance raising him.
@@JanelleWaz It's been a while since I've seen the ep, but does she even give a reason for not telling Worf? Could it have been that she didn't want Alexander raised to be 'too Klingon' ('he will find his own way!')? She had to know, that if Worf expected her to take he oath of marriage, after just a one-timer (not even having any idea a baby had been conceived), he'd be serious about raising the child with Klingon values. This has so many parallels to marriages with mixes of religion, or race, and not fully discussing these topics, before engaging in potential baby making activities ('course, all that discussion may go out the window, once there is an actual child on the way, theory vs. reality....and guilt-inducing grandparents). I wonder if any moms in the real world, were influenced, one way, or the other, by this episode, regarding notifying an unknowing babydaddy, who will definitely have different ideas about raising the child, and help them to see how not knowing, then finding out suddenly, then, just as suddenly, tragedy striking, and being left to raise the child alone (which, I realize is an extreme circumstance, but, one never knows), will affect the father, & cause emotional harm to the child, once newdaddy suddenly enters their life. I honestly never really thought that deeply about Worf as s father, I just kinda wrote off his shipping the kid off, as the writers/producers deciding to go in a different direction (I wonder if they ever regretted creating Alexander?). Thank you for these two videos, they were very interesting. My ST go-to on father stuff is usually Sisko, I don't really even think of Worf.
My head csnon is that warp fields cause developing children to age rapidly in their formative years. See also Molly O’Brien who is ”three” a tear after her birth, and Naomi Wildman who is like 9 years old in the span of 4. Of course, she and Alexander have the benefit of alien physiology for the writers.
Naomi is actually cited in the show to be a rapid developer, presumably because she's half-Ktaran. Klingons are shown in canon to grow rapidly, and not just Alexander; Toral does too.
Came for Star Trek, stayed for the tea review 😂 I'm pretty sure Helena would have preferred to order something "stronger", but the show writers had to keep things PG
Not to mention Carol Marcus,who not only insisted Kirk keep out of his son’s life, but also apparently badmouthed him to David, considering the “overgrown boy scout” comment.
😬 Imagine sending your son to his adoptive grandparents, who he has never met, on an alien planet, immediatley after his mom has been murdered.😕 Worf is not a good father. Like even in the slightest.
Frankly, Klingons seem to put child rearing on the mother and the father teaches the kids about fighting and being a warrior. It must be a common issue if the mother dies prematurely.
Well, this is an... interesting video to give my first comment. That said, I might as give my honest opinion. I don't like Worf. Speaking as a fellow Star Trek fan, I always thought he was either (a) obsessed with honor or (b) TNG's brunt of the joke. That said, I understand what the writers were TRYING with his father/son dynamic with Alexander but even when I was younger, I always thought it was cringe.
Welcome aboard! Fair point. As much as I love TNG, some of the writing could have been better, Worf and Alexander included. It would have been interesting seeing what could have been done with both characters long term if they were on a more serialized show like DS9.
@@JanelleWaz Thank you. I get where you're coming from when it comes to TNG not being sterilized. Heck, I'm more of a TOS fan (for the record, I'm not that old, I was introduced to it as a kid by my dad, after watching J.J.'s Star Trek (2009)) but even I can admit that it's writing while timeless depending on the episodes, is also a product of its own time. Still, as early a show as it was, it would have been interesting to have it serialized. Especially since I connected with the cast there better than TNG.
I always thought Alexander was about 10- 12 because Worf and K'lar had a relationship before he came to the Enterprise. Think about it it takes about 4 years to go to Starfleet academy and then maybe another four or five years to make lieutenant. Alexander was probably about 8 years old in the emissary. How do you think he's 2?
The baby was not born until after they mated on the Holodeck on the Enterprise. Then a year later, she returns, child in hand. Then he goes away to live with Worf's adopted parents and comes back again. Klingon children just grow up faster. Like Dominion children grow up even faster than that. [Despite the fact that "Reunion" took place only a little over a year after "The Emissary," Alexander appeared to be about 4 or 5 years old when he made his first appearance; Alexander would also be recast in later appearances on TNG, appearing to be about 10 years old by the show's fifth season. The fictional reasoning for this rapid development was that Klingon children simply age faster than human children. The real-world reasoning was a little trickier - child labor laws made working with a toddler in thick prosthetic makeup prohibitive, and the show's producer's found the original actor, Jon Steur, to be a little too gentle to portray Worf's rebellious son, resulting in the casting of Brian Bonsall for the majority of TNG's run.] - Screenrant
@@JanelleWaz it being you, I did not mind it so much. You gotta get paid after all. But perhaps might put some newer viewers off. What is the highest amount of ads you can put in a 20 minute video, out of curiosity?
Not sure about that, but with this one, it put in six ad breaks by default. I've seen other RUclipsrs experience the same thing: someone says there's a lot of ad breaks, RUclipsr checks and says, "I didn't realize there were eight" and then fixes it.
Worf is a TERRIBLE father. He only does what's easiest for himself in decisions regarding Alexander- shipping him off to Earth or wherever. Forcing him to be in several of TNG's very worst episodes. Not teaching him how to fight worth a damn.
Worf a fine brother, he did what he could for him. Worf is a terrible father based on the fact he left her with counseler troi and expected him to want to be a warrior. Honestly worf never guided him and just told him be a warrior. He honsetly thought him nothing even how to be a warrior or a klingon.
To be fair, Worf wasn't really brought up that way, either, with his human adoptive parents - he had no model, as to how to be that way (self-taught), and even once he learned, it's a different skill to know a thing, than to teach a thing. Maybe he just thought it was 'in his blood,' and Alexander would just want to, & know how to, be a warrior, instinctively (completely ignoring his 1/4 human ancestry).
@lauranolastnamegiven3385 honestly despite be born of 2 bad ass klingons , he is a lame duck. Also I do blame counselor troi for Alexander being a lame duck as she a half breed mutant herself she should have had more insight to Alexander situation.
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The look on Odo's face when Worf talked about security on the enterprise 😂
Alexander was the Cousin Oliver of TNG & the writers took out upon him every narrative grievance they could.
And Worf was the stand in for every viewer who had to endure Oliver :)
Worf is a better father than he is a brother. At least he didn't wipe Alexander's memory and send him to a new family.
The worst parent in "Starfleet" is Janeway, she abandoned her 🦎 3 children in an alien swamp to fend for themselves while she runaway 70,000 light-years and never thought about them again. At least Worf made sure "Someone" raised his child for him.
But the worst parent in "Star Trek" award does to Garak's father!
Worf did that? I'm sure he had no choice.
@@bigfootwalker5399 Garak's father is in the running for worst sentient being.
1:25 I find it funny that just before this line from Data, Geordi says that this will be like seeing Zefram Cochrane engage the first warp drive. Little does he know, HE GETS TO BE THERE! (in First Contact Film.)
In a (fake) deleted scene from First Contact:
Geordi: Data! I told you this would be great!
Data: When did you say that?
Geordi: When we were testing the Solitan Wave... Some years ago...
Data: Hmm... So you did.
Geordi: I'm still talking to the wrong crowd.
I get the feeling that, "Deanna... That's bulls#*+" is going to become a meme.
Fun fact: I actually recorded that line separately because during editing, I realized I needed to include that part. It very well *could* become a recurring line.
For real. She annoyed me to death with some of her bad advice.
I would be gob smacked if this was dumped in my lap. "We're coming for a visit. Oh btw, here's your kid, happy hunting ... I mean parenting". I've often thought about why the fed Star Fleet lets children go on this ship. Btw, a ship that boldly goes where no one has gone before sure does a lot of running diplomats around.
On a personal note, awesome you like tea. My friend, someone I view as a little brother, sent me some green te from Japan when he was working there. Now that he's maried and living in Japan, I'll have to ask him to send me some more.
Correction. You should visit him in Japan and actually attend a traditional tea ceremony. You won't regret it.
Ooooh! If you got someone that can send you tea directly from Japan, that's great! It seems to always be fresher if it's from Japan. Do you know what kind of tea it is?
I'm in agreement with your take on Worf as a dad. My big thing is why wasn't he told he was a dad in the first place?!? Anyways, nice touch adding Victor Sullivan in your video!!
Welp, since you opened that can of worms with Alexander, the next video must be A Fistful of Datas. 🤠
19:14 Dukat did not want to waste a perfectly good dress, or a lie 😅
I wouldn't hold the birthday against him at all. The truth is that though (for whatever it's worth) I've been called a good father multiple times by various people in family and out, I don't always remember the birthdays for all of my kids. Now I have six of them, so it's a lot harder than having a single child like Worf, but this is a child who has not been living on the ship and who has just re-entered Worf's day-to- day life within the past several hours or *maybe*, depending on how we interpret things, days. Having six kids I can say with confidence that if someone suddenly finds out they have a child that there are many more important things to spend one's time and energy sorting out before worrying about when the kid's birthday is.
More importantly, we don't even know if K'ehleyr even told Worf when his birthday was before she was killed. It's entirely possible that Sergey and Helena would have had to do some detective work when they got Alexander back to earth just to figure out when his birthday was.
Overall, I think the conclusion here is the fundamentally correct way to look at this: Worf was inexperienced. His most questionable choices as a father are ones he makes earlier on in Reunion and New Ground, and as the series moves on he definitely becomes a better and better father, culminating in A Fistful of Datas where I think their relationship looks like a perfectly healthy and normal father/son relationship and First Born where he seems to handle a lot of difficult situations fairly well. In DS9 's Sons and Daughters we see that they have apparently had a bit of a falling out and that is maybe a knock against Worf, BUT the place we find Worf and Alexander starting off in that episode is also pretty starkly removed from anything that we would ever expect based upon where things are between them by the end of TNG and so it's hard to judge anything because it's clear that something pretty significant had to have happened in the interim which we'd really need to know about to make any kind of meaningful estimation of Worf's responsibility in the matter.
I never knew Alexander had been recasted 😮 "Despite the fact that "Reunion" took place only a little over a year after "The Emissary," Alexander appeared to be about 4 or 5 years old when he made his first appearance; Alexander would also be recast in later appearances on TNG, appearing to be about 10 years old by the show's fifth season. The fictional reasoning for this rapid development was that Klingon children simply age faster than human children. The real-world reasoning was a little trickier - child labor laws made working with a toddler in thick prosthetic makeup prohibitive, and the show's producer's found the original actor, Jon Steur, to be a little too gentle to portray Worf's rebellious son, resulting in the casting of Brian Bonsall for the majority of TNG's run." - Screenrant
What's even weirder is that Alexander was recast for a photo with Worf for DS9, and then recast again as a teenager. There were like four different actors that played Alexander... and that's not even counting K'mtar in TNG.
I sometimes wish Sergey and Helena were MY parents.
It needs to be stated that Klingons grow and mature much faster than humans, being fully grown before the age of 10. And they remain capable warriors for between 100-125 years.
It’s not just that Worf is a lousy father, it’s that Alexander is a lousy son.😅😅😅
...Fair.
Yep, Alexander didn't keep up with his training.
Worf's mom reminds me of Violet from Bridgerton. Love them both!!!
On a long enough timeline of videos, I think you'd enjoy taking the piss out of Colonel Tigh (BSG). Oh, I love him as a character. I (sadly) can relate to him.
But as a drunk XO, dude's a mess, haha.
I'm assuming the 2004 BSG Tigh. I watched the original BSG years ago, but I don't remember Tigh very much.
This video was a good and level-headed take. No one is BORN knowing how to be a good father. You need time and the opportunity to make *some* mistakes before you figure things out. IMO Worf did the best he could in the
I call that 'pancake baby syndrome.' No matter what precautions one takes, regarding the temp in the pan/griddle, the first pancakes are never done as well as subsequent ones. Alexander was Worf's first (& only, RIP, Jadzia) child, and he got 'insta-fathered,' to boot, getting thrown into fatherhood with little to no prep (when my mother was expecting me, my parents took classes on infant care, but Worf had no build-up, no time to get used to the idea, & learn what to do, he just got handed his kid, at a moment's notice), so mistakes are inevitable....hey, he wasn't perfect, but at least the kid survived, so....win.
A very fair review (especially the dig at Beverley - we remember!!!)
If she couldn't let it go about Worf not donating his blood, neither will I.
@@JanelleWaz Yep, Bev has to learn! 😂
Worf isn't a bad father, this was the 1st time a single Dad is shown in ST, until DS9. Sisko knew Jake for all his life, Worf missed the early time so he couldn't immediately bond with him. He just did the best he could. Of course Alexander isn't even mentioned in Picard S3 (I need to double check that).
Worf is not a bad father because of this episode. You are correct, Worf is an inexperienced father who is doing the best he can. It's everything he does after this episode, or rather everything he doesn't do. When he goes to DS9, he dumps Alexander back with his grandparents and basically forgets he exists until Alexander comes back and reminds him. Alexander calls Worf out for always sending him away and being an absentee dad, and he is 100% correct to do so.
Fair point. I ended up cutting it from the video, but I had a small mention about Worf sending Alexander *back* to his parents for DS9 when the whole reason he went to live with Worf on the Enterprise was because his parents were ready to just be grandparents. Talk about a step backwards.
@@JanelleWaz I wish we could've seen Jadzia as a step-mom...all those lifetimes of experience, including parenting experience, would've been helpful, & I'm sure Jadzia would've delivered the medicine with an equal dose of humor & fun.
This is a wonderful “counter-point” to Steve Shives’s video about Worf being the worst father in the Universe. He wasn’t. Kheylar should have given Worf a little call. . . “umm honey, what happens on the holodeck didn’t quite stay on the holodeck. . . It’s in my womb!” 😂 He could have at least had some warning! Kheylar is my favorite character in Star Trek, but keeping Alexander from Worf and then springing him on his dad was wrong.
Yeah, I can't help but agree. As much as I dislike Worf (for the record I don't hate him, he's just not for me) I agree a lot with Jenelle's points.
As for Shives... yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what he says.
He strikes me as the kind of guy who treats his opinions as fact.
That's a point that I thought of that didn't make it into the video. K'Ehleyr does bear some responsibility for not telling Worf about Alexander. She did tell him eventually, but not telling him made things more difficult for him when he had to raise Alexander alone. If Worf had a say, Alexander would have been taught Klingon values early on, and I don't think Worf would have had so much resistance raising him.
@@JanelleWaz It's been a while since I've seen the ep, but does she even give a reason for not telling Worf? Could it have been that she didn't want Alexander raised to be 'too Klingon' ('he will find his own way!')? She had to know, that if Worf expected her to take he oath of marriage, after just a one-timer (not even having any idea a baby had been conceived), he'd be serious about raising the child with Klingon values. This has so many parallels to marriages with mixes of religion, or race, and not fully discussing these topics, before engaging in potential baby making activities ('course, all that discussion may go out the window, once there is an actual child on the way, theory vs. reality....and guilt-inducing grandparents).
I wonder if any moms in the real world, were influenced, one way, or the other, by this episode, regarding notifying an unknowing babydaddy, who will definitely have different ideas about raising the child, and help them to see how not knowing, then finding out suddenly, then, just as suddenly, tragedy striking, and being left to raise the child alone (which, I realize is an extreme circumstance, but, one never knows), will affect the father, & cause emotional harm to the child, once newdaddy suddenly enters their life.
I honestly never really thought that deeply about Worf as s father, I just kinda wrote off his shipping the kid off, as the writers/producers deciding to go in a different direction (I wonder if they ever regretted creating Alexander?). Thank you for these two videos, they were very interesting. My ST go-to on father stuff is usually Sisko, I don't really even think of Worf.
My head csnon is that warp fields cause developing children to age rapidly in their formative years. See also Molly O’Brien who is ”three” a tear after her birth, and Naomi Wildman who is like 9 years old in the span of 4. Of course, she and Alexander have the benefit of alien physiology for the writers.
Naomi is actually cited in the show to be a rapid developer, presumably because she's half-Ktaran. Klingons are shown in canon to grow rapidly, and not just Alexander; Toral does too.
Came for Star Trek, stayed for the tea review 😂
I'm pretty sure Helena would have preferred to order something "stronger", but the show writers had to keep things PG
No one ever asks what happened to Worf's "brother" Jeremy...
I want to do a video on The Bonding at some point. In fact, that episode is in my Top 10 TNG episodes.
Ms. Kyle was a bad representation of a teacher.
Well...worf is only the (at least) the second worst parent in Trek. There's always Seven-of-Nine's parents...
Not to mention Carol Marcus,who not only insisted Kirk keep out of his son’s life, but also apparently badmouthed him to David, considering the “overgrown boy scout” comment.
@@TrekBeatTK Riker's dad wasn't exactly the best, either.
😬 Imagine sending your son to his adoptive grandparents, who he has never met, on an alien planet, immediatley after his mom has been murdered.😕 Worf is not a good father. Like even in the slightest.
Has I am a father to a five children I have no stones to throw
Frankly, Klingons seem to put child rearing on the mother and the father teaches the kids about fighting and being a warrior. It must be a common issue if the mother dies prematurely.
Well, this is an... interesting video to give my first comment.
That said, I might as give my honest opinion.
I don't like Worf. Speaking as a fellow Star Trek fan, I always thought he was either (a) obsessed with honor or (b) TNG's brunt of the joke.
That said, I understand what the writers were TRYING with his father/son dynamic with Alexander but even when I was younger, I always thought it was cringe.
Welcome aboard!
Fair point. As much as I love TNG, some of the writing could have been better, Worf and Alexander included. It would have been interesting seeing what could have been done with both characters long term if they were on a more serialized show like DS9.
@@JanelleWaz Thank you.
I get where you're coming from when it comes to TNG not being sterilized. Heck, I'm more of a TOS fan (for the record, I'm not that old, I was introduced to it as a kid by my dad, after watching J.J.'s Star Trek (2009)) but even I can admit that it's writing while timeless depending on the episodes, is also a product of its own time. Still, as early a show as it was, it would have been interesting to have it serialized. Especially since I connected with the cast there better than TNG.
I always thought Alexander was about 10- 12 because Worf and K'lar had a relationship before he came to the Enterprise. Think about it it takes about 4 years to go to Starfleet academy and then maybe another four or five years to make lieutenant. Alexander was probably about 8 years old in the emissary. How do you think he's 2?
The baby was not born until after they mated on the Holodeck on the Enterprise. Then a year later, she returns, child in hand. Then he goes away to live with Worf's adopted parents and comes back again. Klingon children just grow up faster. Like Dominion children grow up even faster than that.
[Despite the fact that "Reunion" took place only a little over a year after "The Emissary," Alexander appeared to be about 4 or 5 years old when he made his first appearance; Alexander would also be recast in later appearances on TNG, appearing to be about 10 years old by the show's fifth season. The fictional reasoning for this rapid development was that Klingon children simply age faster than human children. The real-world reasoning was a little trickier - child labor laws made working with a toddler in thick prosthetic makeup prohibitive, and the show's producer's found the original actor, Jon Steur, to be a little too gentle to portray Worf's rebellious son, resulting in the casting of Brian Bonsall for the majority of TNG's run.] - Screenrant
@@tilasole3252 but didn't Worf say they were already married therefore already had mated before
No, I think the holodeck incident was the only time because K'Ehleyr said something like "Why didn't we do this years ago?"
Memory alpha agrees with you, I guess Klingons grow 8 years in one year and live to be 300
I had about five to six skippable ads. I hope you are gettting paid for that. 😅
Ooof! Are there that many? I need to look into that.
Okay, I double checked and RUclips automatically put six ads in my video. I cut back on a few of them. Should be better now.
@@JanelleWaz it being you, I did not mind it so much. You gotta get paid after all. But perhaps might put some newer viewers off. What is the highest amount of ads you can put in a 20 minute video, out of curiosity?
Not sure about that, but with this one, it put in six ad breaks by default. I've seen other RUclipsrs experience the same thing: someone says there's a lot of ad breaks, RUclipsr checks and says, "I didn't realize there were eight" and then fixes it.
Worf is not a bad father. I said what I said.
Worf is a TERRIBLE father. He only does what's easiest for himself in decisions regarding Alexander- shipping him off to Earth or wherever. Forcing him to be in several of TNG's very worst episodes.
Not teaching him how to fight worth a damn.
Worf a fine brother, he did what he could for him. Worf is a terrible father based on the fact he left her with counseler troi and expected him to want to be a warrior. Honestly worf never guided him and just told him be a warrior. He honsetly thought him nothing even how to be a warrior or a klingon.
To be fair, Worf wasn't really brought up that way, either, with his human adoptive parents - he had no model, as to how to be that way (self-taught), and even once he learned, it's a different skill to know a thing, than to teach a thing. Maybe he just thought it was 'in his blood,' and Alexander would just want to, & know how to, be a warrior, instinctively (completely ignoring his 1/4 human ancestry).
@lauranolastnamegiven3385 honestly despite be born of 2 bad ass klingons , he is a lame duck. Also I do blame counselor troi for Alexander being a lame duck as she a half breed mutant herself she should have had more insight to Alexander situation.