Well for us it was a fully optioned Tesla and keeping the oil furnace and high electric bills or thinking differently. So we got a 5 ton Geothermal Heating System, a 16K grid tied ground mounted Solar System, and a 2023 Bolt EUV Premiere Redline Edition fully optioned all for $83,060.10 after all incentives and tax credits. For some reason I get a bigger kick out of charging my Bolt with Solar Power and heating our home with no fossil fuel than going 0-60mph in 3 seconds!
Yes, you're absolutely correct. Take the $61k Kia EV6. Not many people are going to slap down $61k so there are loan fees, then tax on that $61k, now you're paying another $10k plus the insurance is higher too. I've been running PV for 15 plus years, it's paid off and paid for itself. In the last six years I haven't paid for gas, when the home heating oil delivery people told me oil was $5.25 a gallon, I put in mini splits and a tankless water heater. It cost us less in a month to run our house, appliances, well pump, heating/cooling and charge our Bolt then it cost to fill a car with 20 gallons of gas. Renewables hedge inflation, gas goes up, heating oil goes up - very little effect on us. The Bolt is a great car, its a smaller car but that doesn't mean it's an econo box, it's not, it's filled with tech and useable options. It's a terrific car for off grid living.
We bought a 2022 Bolt LT2 last summer. We love it. Fun and practical to drive around town. Charging it on low night time electric rate makes it very cheap to drive. On the range. EPA is 259 combined, 266 city and 233 highway. Our real world ranges. In the Non winter months. Combined 300, highway at 65 mph 230, 75 mph 200 to 210. In the winter months both city and highway we are getting around 170 miles. The DC charge rate of 55 kw is is most serious weakness. But that doesn't matter for daily driving if you have overnight charging. We only take a few trips as year where we need to use a DC fast charger. If you need to stop once or twice, it is doable. When I took it on a 500 mile round trip in Dec, while I was waiting for it to charge I reminded myself that a faster charging EV would have cost me at least $12,000 more. So I used some of that savings to eat at a nice restaurant while it was charging. I would recommend both the Bolt and the Bolt EUV.
Off the line the torque is limited to minimize wheel spin but when the car is moving it's really easy to spin the tires if you punch it. With so much torque I wonder if going with bigger tires might actually work better, say, 215 55/17 instead of the stock 215 50/17. Half an inch more sidewall might also increase ride comfort and the look of the car without affecting performance IMO.
Great video I been trying to buy one but it’s not possible dealers are charging up to 5K over MSRP even a salesman here in Chevrolet of Manassas VA laugh at me when I said I would paid only MSRP I called dealers and most of the cars are spoken for. I hope I can buy one in time to get the tax credit
You need to find a better dealer and if you really want one be willing to go out of state to find one and have it shipped to you. The East Coast is saturated with people wanting them so good luck. In the south, less demand (but increasing) so better availability. I live in Alabama, have a 2022 Bolt EUV LT that I drove up on the lot, saw it and bought it. Currently have a 2023 Premiere Redline ordered from same dealer to upgrade to from the 2022 to get the tax credit. Donohoo Chevrolet in Ft Payne Alabama sells at MSRP, no fees, and they typically have Bolts on order and available. They have 3 EUV's on order right now that look to be available. They show on order inventory on their website not just what is in stock. The trick is to find a dealer who made the investment in GM EV's from the get go and is willing to do the right thing in a crazy artificially bloated market. With GM, the more you sell, the more they send you. Happy Hunting in your search!
It maybe a great car but dealership can still markup above the MSRP. I called over the phone the salesman said there is an euv for $29k, after credit check all that stuff he come back with $35k, I said over the phone you quote me $29k, he said there is markup. I laughed "You know pan-dam-mic is over, right?" and I just walk out.
Looks lame. But for ppl that want an ev as a 2nd car, to go around town, get groceries, EV’s like this make sense. They should be advertised as inexpensive, around town vehicles, that you can charge at home in an hour and to help save you $. This thing should cost $15K and have a range of 100 miles. Perfect that, then expand and then try to make an ev capable of normal vehicle things.
As Alex ( on Autos ) would say, "No shit sherlock". It's an entry level car, and for the price, it's well loaded and a respectable range. The design is a bit lame for sure, but that's subjective.
They tried 100ish mile EVs people tend to not pay extra money if they cannot take it for a short trip. Any EV needs to be close to or above 200 miles range for people to not have a range anxiety. I did have that for almost 1 year until I got used to my EV
I'll bet I can go into your house or you can go into mine and find ten things you think look lame. Personally my wife and I like the looks of the Bolt EUV - a lot! 247 miles is not just an around town car, people take Bolts all over the country. Yes, we're not taking long trips often , so why pay for that 45 minutes we'd save on a trip? Besides we like taking our time, there's more to life than speed! It's got a lot of great options, heated/cooled seats (power drivers), excellent safety, heated mirrors and back seats. People don't understand cars, they've been fooled into thinking that they have to be big and charge in 15 minutes, you pay for that and if you don't need it you're throwing money down the drain. Small cars don't mean they are cheap cars, the Bolt is not a cheap car, cheap cars don't have power sunroofs with shades, 10" infotainment, wireless charging, lane assist, HD rear and surround cameras and adaptive cruse control or TPMS. The Bolt is packed with great, useable, option and lots of space. There are no $15k cars in the US, you can't buy one, what are you talking about? Cars with power, heated/ cooled seats are not econo boxes just because they are small. The Bolt's range is very conservative, people don't understand EV's, you can never charge an ICE at home and have 250 miles range every day, that's what EV's are about not driving 2k mile trips every week. According to the AAA the average distance people drive in a day is ~30 miles. Cars like the Bolt and Kona are great for people like us who live mostly off grid and charge our EV from PV. We haven't paid for gas in six years plus and, yes, our PV is paid off and paid for itself so it's all free energy. Fast charging? don't need it, the Bolt is fine, give me a smaller battery, a lighter car that has longer tire life and I'm happy. You couldn't give me a Tesla or an EV6 for $61k. I don't want to drive a $50 or $60k car around, I don't have to impress my neighbors, cost too much!
Well for us it was a fully optioned Tesla and keeping the oil furnace and high electric bills or thinking differently. So we got a 5 ton Geothermal Heating System, a 16K grid tied ground mounted Solar System, and a 2023 Bolt EUV Premiere Redline Edition fully optioned all for $83,060.10 after all incentives and tax credits. For some reason I get a bigger kick out of charging my Bolt with Solar Power and heating our home with no fossil fuel than going 0-60mph in 3 seconds!
Yes, you're absolutely correct.
Take the $61k Kia EV6. Not many people are going to slap down $61k so there are loan fees, then tax on that $61k, now you're paying another $10k plus the insurance is higher too.
I've been running PV for 15 plus years, it's paid off and paid for itself. In the last six years I haven't paid for gas, when the home heating oil delivery people told me oil was $5.25 a gallon, I put in mini splits and a tankless water heater. It cost us less in a month to run our house, appliances, well pump, heating/cooling and charge our Bolt then it cost to fill a car with 20 gallons of gas. Renewables hedge inflation, gas goes up, heating oil goes up - very little effect on us.
The Bolt is a great car, its a smaller car but that doesn't mean it's an econo box, it's not, it's filled with tech and useable options. It's a terrific car for off grid living.
I bought two redlines. Love the cars. Yes they are under rated. In the summer I get 280 +! Best car ever!
Looks great, runs great
We bought a 2022 Bolt LT2 last summer. We love it. Fun and practical to drive around town. Charging it on low night time electric rate makes it very cheap to drive.
On the range. EPA is 259 combined, 266 city and 233 highway. Our real world ranges. In the Non winter months. Combined 300, highway at 65 mph 230, 75 mph 200 to 210. In the winter months both city and highway we are getting around 170 miles.
The DC charge rate of 55 kw is is most serious weakness. But that doesn't matter for daily driving if you have overnight charging. We only take a few trips as year where we need to use a DC fast charger. If you need to stop once or twice, it is doable. When I took it on a 500 mile round trip in Dec, while I was waiting for it to charge I reminded myself that a faster charging EV would have cost me at least $12,000 more. So I used some of that savings to eat at a nice restaurant while it was charging.
I would recommend both the Bolt and the Bolt EUV.
Thanks for sharing
I hope I can buy either but so far no luck
Off the line the torque is limited to minimize wheel spin but when the car is moving it's really easy to spin the tires if you punch it. With so much torque I wonder if going with bigger tires might actually work better, say, 215 55/17 instead of the stock 215 50/17. Half an inch more sidewall might also increase ride comfort and the look of the car without affecting performance IMO.
Great video
I been trying to buy one but it’s not possible dealers are charging up to 5K over MSRP even a salesman here in Chevrolet of Manassas VA laugh at me when I said I would paid only MSRP I called dealers and most of the cars are spoken for. I hope I can buy one in time to get the tax credit
You need to find a better dealer and if you really want one be willing to go out of state to find one and have it shipped to you. The East Coast is saturated with people wanting them so good luck. In the south, less demand (but increasing) so better availability. I live in Alabama, have a 2022 Bolt EUV LT that I drove up on the lot, saw it and bought it. Currently have a 2023 Premiere Redline ordered from same dealer to upgrade to from the 2022 to get the tax credit. Donohoo Chevrolet in Ft Payne Alabama sells at MSRP, no fees, and they typically have Bolts on order and available. They have 3 EUV's on order right now that look to be available. They show on order inventory on their website not just what is in stock. The trick is to find a dealer who made the investment in GM EV's from the get go and is willing to do the right thing in a crazy artificially bloated market. With GM, the more you sell, the more they send you. Happy Hunting in your search!
It was pretty tricky buying in Southern California even, very in demand. Shopped around and finally found a deal...EV 2lt
in Dubai, it costs around 46,000 USD, which is not cheap at all.
It maybe a great car but dealership can still markup above the MSRP. I called over the phone the salesman said there is an euv for $29k, after credit check all that stuff he come back with $35k, I said over the phone you quote me $29k, he said there is markup. I laughed "You know pan-dam-mic is over, right?" and I just walk out.
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Looks lame. But for ppl that want an ev as a 2nd car, to go around town, get groceries, EV’s like this make sense. They should be advertised as inexpensive, around town vehicles, that you can charge at home in an hour and to help save you $. This thing should cost $15K and have a range of 100 miles. Perfect that, then expand and then try to make an ev capable of normal vehicle things.
As Alex ( on Autos ) would say, "No shit sherlock". It's an entry level car, and for the price, it's well loaded and a respectable range. The design is a bit lame for sure, but that's subjective.
They tried 100ish mile EVs people tend to not pay extra money if they cannot take it for a short trip. Any EV needs to be close to or above 200 miles range for people to not have a range anxiety. I did have that for almost 1 year until I got used to my EV
I'll bet I can go into your house or you can go into mine and find ten things you think look lame. Personally my wife and I like the looks of the Bolt EUV - a lot! 247 miles is not just an around town car, people take Bolts all over the country. Yes, we're not taking long trips often , so why pay for that 45 minutes we'd save on a trip? Besides we like taking our time, there's more to life than speed!
It's got a lot of great options, heated/cooled seats (power drivers), excellent safety, heated mirrors and back seats. People don't understand cars, they've been fooled into thinking that they have to be big and charge in 15 minutes, you pay for that and if you don't need it you're throwing money down the drain. Small cars don't mean they are cheap cars, the Bolt is not a cheap car, cheap cars don't have power sunroofs with shades, 10" infotainment, wireless charging, lane assist, HD rear and surround cameras and adaptive cruse control or TPMS. The Bolt is packed with great, useable, option and lots of space.
There are no $15k cars in the US, you can't buy one, what are you talking about? Cars with power, heated/ cooled seats are not econo boxes just because they are small. The Bolt's range is very conservative, people don't understand EV's, you can never charge an ICE at home and have 250 miles range every day, that's what EV's are about not driving 2k mile trips every week. According to the AAA the average distance people drive in a day is ~30 miles.
Cars like the Bolt and Kona are great for people like us who live mostly off grid and charge our EV from PV. We haven't paid for gas in six years plus and, yes, our PV is paid off and paid for itself so it's all free energy. Fast charging? don't need it, the Bolt is fine, give me a smaller battery, a lighter car that has longer tire life and I'm happy. You couldn't give me a Tesla or an EV6 for $61k. I don't want to drive a $50 or $60k car around, I don't have to impress my neighbors, cost too much!