The Top 5 WORST PERKS - 7 Days To Die 2023
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Okay I roasted the perk we can now lay the meme to rest.
It's the internet when you say stop the memes the memes only intensify. Lol
I would have guessed but you spoiled it in the thumbnail. Though I knew it was coming anyway.
When I don't know what do with the points, I buy this perks👍
So a series based solely on these perks isn't coming anytime soon?
Have you played darkness falls you catch fire 20 to 100 times minimum on horde night. You either have to have a pool near by, alot of water in inventory or need a mod to drink murky water. So pack mule is more valuable in darkness falls. Having low inventory places because of lack number of pocket Mods are the worst but ya in vanilla I could see the pack mule being the worth perk.
Pack mule would be cool if it added actual slots to your inventory window.
Ya, if I could get an extra row or two of inventory, then pack mule would be a must have.
I legit thought that's how it worked that i could stack it with pocket mods for even more inventory..
Sadly i just wasted perk points.
@@The_Crimson_Fukrthat’s why I use a backpack extender mod because it actually makes that perk useful plus you don’t have to deal with the laughably small vanilla inventory
I'll sometimes put 1 point in pack mule if I don't have crafting triple armor pocket mods unlocked
@@AngerMaker413 The 60 slot or the 78 slot mod?
I like spending 1 skill point into tracking as rabbits and chickens can be hard to see in grass. Although every other level falls into the "just look around" category
Agreed. Rank 1 is a nice convenience, the others are totally pointless
There is absolutely no reason to do that. They don’t hide, they run all over the place. Plus they are OVER abundant.
I do the same.
Especially nice when I'm out just hunting for feathers.
same
I found it helpful early game, till I got a compound xbow with a 4x scope and annihilated everything. Good to find snakes in the wasteland and certian POIs. Pesky critters but tasty!
Many versions ago getting too cold would cause your HP to drain until you warmed up. Back then you could also freeze to death on a sunny day in the forest by wearing things like cowboy hats, tank tops and short shorts, but you'd be fine if you were naked.
Back in the a13/a14 days.
They should combine animal tracker and the hunter perk that lets you harvest more meat.
Wanna know how to fix pack mule?
Have it increase the stack limit.
Like imagine from 5 first aid bandages in a stack, to 10.
So carrying 40 would take 4 slots instead of 8 slots.
What do you think?
That should actually be in Alpha 21
That would then turn it from garbage to mandatory!
That would 180 this perk big time!
That would legit make it a useful perk. Allowing you to, for instance, maybe stack some otherwise unstackable items (small stacks), like engines and the likes. And of course, as you said, increasing stack sizes of existing items.
i like what they did in undead legacy. they threw the item slot idea out the window and just made it a weight system for inventory. ya start with 100 lbs. each rank of pack mule adds another 20 lbs to the cap. it stacks with mods that increase inventory size too. becomes instantly useful on the early game and is still useful at end game since it lets you chill out in the field longer before having to RTB to offload stuff to then go back out again.
I love that you mention the opportunity cost for these perks. In a vacuum many of these are 'ok' but points spent on them are points you can't spend elsewhere.
@@huff3782 wait is there a level cap?
I still put one point into pack mule early, because that’s when you need it MOST, and I often don’t find pocket mods for a while. 🤷🏻♂️
For me... the flashlight mod is a MUST! especially when going on night missions or just being in a house and suddenly the weather gets all rainy and foggy and for some reason, everything becomes pitch dark... so yeah. Not gonna waste my eye treasure find goggles for a night vision goggles.
Totally agree. I feel really under-equipped until the moment I finally find or craft a headlamp mod. 👍🏻
nightvision google are better, get use to see thing in green but once you achieve that NVgoogle are much better
@@scubasteve2189 mining helmets from traders
Tbf. I've been getting better at seeing in this setting. Especially be relying on Agility for Sneak as much as my Cloth Armor that I stick by and will die on that hill. I'm a perception build mainly, but I do a lot of zip zooming and sneaking with agility. Can easily pop a bunch of heads with a magnum and a rifle. When you're sneaking around and they cannot hear you for the life of them, you always get the drop. And since cloth armor has no movement penalties nor noise penalties, you can focus all your endeavors into speed and other mods that are more relevant.
And because cloth is so easy to come by, repairing them is easy. And given that the light armor perks make them more effective and more durable, you really rarely ever need to repair them in general.
Buy a LVL 1 military helmet. Super cheap, comes with headlamp.
Most of these have had the game pass them by. Things like the weather has changed so it's not harsh like it used to be in some previous Alphas. You used to really need those slots in clothes and armor to put mods so you wouldn't burn up or freeze to death. You always had to drink red tea in the desert to stay cool and when you had the mod in your armor you didn't need to drink red tea all the time.
You have to go to the desert to get shale and that'd take a while where you'd be drinking tons of red tea to be mining - and had to take all your armor off to stay cool. If you had the mods on instead of pocket mods you could keep your armor on.
i hope the weather update coming in like a year will make weather actually important again, but i doubt it now with the way armor works now
Over 4k hours in the game and I still take 1-2 point in pack mule upon landing. At low levels you are the nost vulnerable and most likely to be packed to the brim constantly. I loathe all the time it takes to walk everywhere and I watch my teammates go at the speed of smell constantly.
By the time you're tricked out in bikes and pocket mods you can easily afford to respec out of a number of early game talents that become useless through books and non repetitive needs, and I'd suggest players take skill points with that in mind if they are looking to be that efficient.
You can pry my pack mule from my cold dead hands.
Well, this video hasn't aged too badly. This was written for Alpha 20, and we're in Alpha 21 today. The perks mentioned are about as useful now as they were then. There are two major changes that make some of the comments invalid. First is water. In Alpha 20 water was easy to obtain. Alpha 21 made the helmet water filter actually a good item. Also you can't use yucca plants to make drinks without having pure water. Yucca works like tea in previous itterations, you add it to water instead of squeezing the yucca to make a drink.
The second change in 21 that impacts the comments is loot changed. Tons of crafting magazines were added to the loot tables. It makes it much harder to get what use to be fairly common loot. Perk Magazines are slightly harder to find. Pocket mods are slightly more rare. The trader offers less armor than he use to. The general quality of quest rewards has gone down, partially to accommodate adding a 6th tier to quests and loot. You can still get everything talked about here, just it will take a bit longer.
The Darkness Falls mod made the tracking perk good by allowing you to also detect zombies.
It also made Pack mule better to.
If A21 ever happens, that helmet filter mod would be great to have. Set up a small well using your water bucket, and drink yellow water from it whenever you stop by your base! Set one up near each trader, and drink swamp donkey runoff every time you go to turn in quests! All the sewage, all the time!
This is exactly what has happened lol. And the flashlight mod is useful now because of the new lighting changes
With this and other recent vids you've put out, you've convienced me 100% that 7days badly needs a skilltree revamp.
No, why would they do that? Instead, the devs can waste a bunch of time reworking entire systems of the game in a futile attempt to make some of these useless skills useful. 🤦🏻♂️🙄😂
they did thats what we have now XD of course the old system i could cheese shit alot harder but it was fun
Well you're in luck, in a21, they are.
The Treasure perks were hella good in the early versions where treasure hunting was just based on... a sound effect telling you you were semi closer. So reducing the amount of area you had to search mattered a lot unless you just had a psychic sense for always knowing where it was buried. You could, without the perks, spend an absurd amount of time trying to find treasure, it wasn't foolproof like I guess it is now.
Pack Mule could be very easily fixed by adding more mods.
I really do think Pack Mule is the biggest noob-trap perk in the game, it's so easy to max out inventory without those perks that the only people who buy it have probably not encountered a pocket mod yet, and then when they realize it they regret their choices as they stare down that 42k duke price tag for the fergittin' elixir.
even if you dont have pocket mods, getting a bike in the first 3 days is relatively easy and basically nulls all of the negative setbacks of encumbrance.
I take 1-2 levels of it every time, makes early game much more convenient and it's not like anyone would ever miss a couple skill points later on.
Also most playthrough end after 30 to 60 days anyway, so why skimp out on 2 skill points when you can make 30-60% of your playtime more enjoyable.
So, when you drink the elixer, you get all your points back?
Nice! Good to know.
I never go over two points, but playing with friends means I can make "less effective" perk purchases without feeling weak.
@@Endrance450 Right. It's basically weighing one choice over another. Much like a lot of stuff in this game.
I do like to put points into pack mule early on, while its pretty easy to level up and looting is important and not having the negative stat is super useful. Ive never had any luck with finding larger pocket mods until day 20 to 30. Which is when ill respec and use the points more elsewhere as leveling starts to take longer. Thats just my take on it tho. I really like doing strength builds so maybe im just a bit biased.
I've always felt that buried treasure missions would be a bit better if they went up to higher tiers, and thus gave higher rewards. What I couldn't think of was how to properly scale the difficulty of such encounters. They already throw a decent number of zombies at you all at once, without the ability to kite them through a POI like other missions, so more/harder zombies probably isn't the answer. On multiplayer servers it can also get out of hand since filling the holes up after you are done is difficult to convince people to do. So you have these random sinkholes everywhere that are annoying to deal with. One thing I do like to do is use robotic turrets to watch my back while digging, and cull the numbers/delay the waves that come after you.
Were pocket mods really that common in the older days of the game? I've put almost 200 hours in the last like 6 months and I've never gotten the crafting magazine for them and i never really find that many of them.
Thanks for talking about the armor mod argument for Pack Mule. Now I don’t have to think about that barely useful upside.
as an unlucky packrat, day 34 and not a single armor pocket mod schematic, the fact thats its RNG based sucks but i do have a forgettin elixer when i FINALLY fo get some pocket mods
I like Animal Tracker as I enjoy long walks in the woods where I can look at wild animals through a scope...mounted to my M60 Machine Gun.
RIP Clothing Pocket Mods tho. The new armor outfit system is cool but it does not feel like it was a nice change at all to what we had going in before update 1.0. Encumbrance is a BITCH!
It was the "angry, walking food containers" that got me to sub.
I agree about salvage operations. As a heretic, I turn off the horde so I can concentrate on exploring the POIs. Air drops and Salvage Operations are a good way to accumulate wealth by selling at the traders. I regularly turn in a dozen or more useless T6 items and they are stuffed with mods that I accumulated or made. Its not uncommon to make 60 to 80k coin. I did an experiment and stacking the bonuses from pumpkin pie etc on 54k will yield around 82k coin AND a similar amount of experience.
Im an older player in the sense of i played a ton of console then swapped to pc but your guides really help me understand the major learning curve considering console is 5 versions behind this reqlly makes learning the new game easier
AskPrebuilt : if you were to re-do the weapons in the game, what would you have the player use going from zero to end? In terms of realism vs game-enjoyment/immersion. I always felt the pipe-guns feel a little bit "too crude", and some of the top-tier weapons feel a bit out of place.
I think that's the point of pipe weapons: to be crude. Though I'd rather see them based on real primitive weapons. Such as, the Luddie. A machine-gun that anyone could make. Maybe pneumatic guns? Like air rifles or something.
If you could balance each of these 5 perks, how would you go about it?
For Packed Mule, there's not really much saving it unless there's a change to the inventory system to something like Unturned/Tarkov(slot based volume system) or Empyrion(numerical volume and mass system). And Packed Mule should probably be more about reducing the speed debuff than adding slots; ie the mod and the perk should play separate roles if they want to balance it. Well Insulated probably also only really makes sense with a rework to the importance of temperature in the survival elements, although I remember when they first implemented it temperature was such a fucking pain to deal with.
For Infiltrator, mostly I'd say a 1 block high crouch should be in there somewhere, that'd make it kind of like a niche QOL perk like Parkour. Maybe Treasure Hunter should further influence the loot in chests, or reduced chance of zombie spawns each time it reduces.
For Animal Tracker, on top of detecting zombie animals, they could simulate animal stalking by, for instance, if there are no animals in the area, you could instead follow a "trail" which is really like a miniquest waypoint that will lead you to an animal. With that said this really doesn't have value with the abundance and stupidity of the animals in this game. Maybe it could just be a tracker perk and it also extends to zombies and, eventually, bandits, and maybe removing the wallhack radar in quests and instead making it exclusive to this perk.
I think combining some of these perks would be the best solution.
Put Infiltrator and Lockpicking together under the name of "Infiltrator"
Put Animal Tracker together with Huntsman as a blanket hunting perk
And finally, Pack Mule could be a part of lucky looter maybe. Or just removed entirely, it's nearly inconsequential.
As for well insulated, I feel like now we could probably re-add temperature damage, now that the system as a whole is a bit more reasonable to deal with. It does feel really odd being in freezing temperatures in the snow while only suffering minor effects overall. "Never take temperature damage again" would be aces for someone who's in the desert and snow a lot.
@@fusrosandvich3738 Cool ideas, I also had merging of Animal Tracker and Huntsman in mind, maybe on top of a decreased aggro from animals or they give up a chase more easily on top of that.
I still think Packed Mule is redeemable by completely overhauling it, because I think if you plan on Fergettin' Elixiring in the midgame, unlocking 3 extra slots with one point for your early game isn't absolutely bad. So with this in mind and maybe an additional incentive to the perk of some kind for the endgame would be cool. Hell, if they make it so stack sizes are variable they could make each level increase the stack sizes, which could absolutely overhaul it to an A tier or even S tier perk depending on what items you're working with(explosives and 7.62 come to mind for things that really benefit from a perk that buffs stack size)
To overhaul temperature mechanics, I think a movement speed debuff on level 1 (cold) should be enough to discourage entry in the early game, though not as harsh as radiation damage for the, appropriately higher rated, wasteland. Level 2 freezing should definitely have some health DOT or health penalties. In the desert I think a movement speed penalty for the Level 2 overheat debuff is fair, Level 1 can be something simple like a nerf to stamina regen along with the usual increase in dehydration rate.
I love how Animal Tracker was reworked in Darkness Falls. There it also shows you where zombies are around you. It doesn't work on sleepers I think, but it still much more useful than vanilla one
I and lovingly refered to as a loot goblin so I usually put my first 3 points into levels in packmule. I don't really do much more than level 2 or three because as he said, pocket mods. I just take everything so rather than having to crawl everywhere or put down boxes I may or may not come back to later, pack mule is the better option for me.
And then latter there's the drone with two cargo mods.
Of everything listed, I will put one point into Animal Tracker early on. It allows me to find more chickens and rabbits than by just looking around.
Find them? I run over a lot of them. Roadkill, yum.
i put 1 point into Infiltrator just because I have bad reaction times.
@@jackclark1994 How does Infiltrator affect your reaction time?
@Gandhi_Physique it doesn't affect my reaction time, it gives me an extra second before the shit breaks and i fall
@@jackclark1994 Yeah uh, sorry man. I'm an idiot. The main comment was about animal tracker.. and I somehow confused infiltrator for that lol
Enjoyed this video, well done! For single player games I'd have to add Charismatic Nature.
I don't know if that really counts... It's a pretty good skill if you're with friends, but it's obviously useless in a singleplayer game. The ones he mentioned here aren't "obviously" bad the way charismatic nature is in singleplayer.
@@Arkalius80 True. It's single player only that Charismatic Nature is useless and Prebuilt didn't go into single vs multi player benefits.
I generally put one point in Well Insulated so the game shuts up about me being out in the rain, well worth it for me just to avoid being distracted.
This video was actually extremely helpful, I'm still gonna take one perk into the hunter, just cause I like to see rabbit, snakes, and chickens on my little compass bar, but other than that, I am no longer putting points into the others
This is spot on. IMHO though, Pack Mule is worth eventually putting one perk point into so you can free up the foot slot for High Performance Running Shoes, as I love my mobility. Honestly though, having 2 over-encumbrance at full load is not that big of a deal, so investing that 1 perk point comes after pretty much everything else I need.
It wasnt until like last week that I saw those shoes gor the very first time EVER I literally dodnt even know they existed. I saw neon green shoes and having about 1000 hrs in the game now, was actually BEWILDERED, confuddled, shocked(actually) to find something in a game that, like I said, have just SO many hours in, I thought id seen it all, shocked to see something I have never seen before lmao. Also with the not slowed by armor in combat book, there was no difference to me. Even without adrenaline active I dont think I noticed a difference. But this was in a21 so they might be broken now idk.
My first 4 Skill Points as an Archer(my preferred Play Style).
Archery (of course)
Animal Tracker
The Huntsman
Parkour
While I'm traveling to the first City I'm Hunting Chickens and looking for Nests, I ignore Rabbits as it's the Feathers I need the most.
After getting a Home established I still use Animal Tracking to spot Chickens in the City as they're pretty small in comparison to the miscellaneous debris in Cities.
can you do a video that takes all these useless perks and what you would alter or change in these perks to make them good? (not godly just descent so that you may use them or put points into them)
Great suggestion. Let's do constructive criticism!
My ideas for buffing a few of these perks.
Well Insulated - I think that every 3 points of heat tolerance above the current comfort threshold should lower stamina consumption by 1%. Every 3 points of cold tolerance above the comfort threshold should lower water and food needs by 1%. The last point should also give 10 more in both tolerances. The three points would result in 10% less stamina consumption, food/water usage, and that would compound with the resistance to environmental conditions. It's not broken, but it's no longer worthless.
Also, being very cold weather should drain 1 health every 10 seconds and being very hot should lower stamina regen by 20%.
Buried treasure needs to be reworked.
Animal Tracker - Zombie animals would be really useful, but it should also let you know danger zones for zombies. Eg, a translucent red dot for groups of 5 or more zombies in a small area. It would have use cases at least and not overlap with harvester.
Pack Mule - There's many ways to make this better. Have it add actual slots to your inventory is one, but that's obviously broken as Sex rex currently is. I'd rather there be a bonus for having free slots without items. Eg, +0.5% movespeed and melee damage for every free slot in your inventory. This could be broken but also fun if balanced differently.
Infiltrator - This should allow you to make the mines, make them much better, and let you craft them for far fewer resources. It could make some interesting strategies playwise and base designs.
These are some solid pointers, I'm glad those skills were put in that perspective. Makes me realize how useless the two skills I use are, I've used Pack Mule regrettably, and The Temperature Insulation Perks. Feels good to know I don't really need those and can invest elsewhere.
I do wonder if the dev meant to make so many issues a non issue.
"Streamlining"
naw man, they're simply overlooking alot of things because they're so focused on the 5% of people that are finding ways to get around the game's AI
@@paganathiest6349 right its annoying
Yeah, I use the animal tracker, mostly for roleplay... Everything else I agree wholeheartedly. I am one step from totally nuking the leveling and skill system and modding my own if I can figure enough 'fluff' to make a hundred levels worthwhile... Great vid! Thanks for your hard work on it.
About Treasure Hunter: I tried different maps in different biomes. The wasteland maps ALWAYS were on top of a mountain with a 60 degree slope in the middle of nowhere. I did get a useless T6 item to stuff with excess mods but not worth the trouble.
About how to shorten your dig: Lay out three charges of dynamite for a T1/2/3 quest and toss a lit 4th bundle in the middle. Usually the box is lying about exposed. For treasure maps, use a +50% candy for the same result (unless you are in the wasteland mountains). I make destroyed stone and dirt and back fill any tears in the landscape, which usually takes as much time as digging, just not as frustrating.
Bonus tip: You can revisit quest loot boxes. I dig a crypt around mine and revisit every respawn period. I found this really helpful getting food in the early game and helpful for recipe canned goods for later stages. I pick up millitary plates and fiber, and steel plates from the nonfood loot boxes at L60+. I really enjoy experimenting with architecture that the zombies ignore and I can't drive into a hole.
As everybody knows it depends on how you decide to play. Most people have seen Glock9, JaWoodle, Night maroon, Guns Nerd and Steel series and you can pick depending on the type of challenge you want to take.
Let me start with this: you're absolutely 100% correct.. for vanilla. I'm finding that's a much different case if/when you add mods. I'm playing Sorcery and the gear has tons of space for mods but it adds a lot of new stackable mods. I've actually spent 2 points so far into pack mule.
Ijs 😂
You going to redo this for A21? Not a lot has changed in the perk trees but I'm curious if your views have changed at all.
Role-playing as a reason to max the hunting skill. Useless perk, but fun for some. Thanks for explaining it that way. I'll quit scoffing at it, because I like gardening and waste points even though I know it's useless.
Rank 1 treasure hunter is actually pretty useful - you dont need to invest any points into perception for it, startong quests for buried supplies become significantly faster and since they have quite decent looy for game start, let you have more of said loot, AND its a skill that stays useful later on when you're hunting for treasures, which usually have some very good loot, which you get even more of thanks to the skill.
Well insulated used to be a decent perk for early game back in the day, but nowadays it's indeed basically useless... Just like pack mule - used to be sort of helpful back in the day, especially in sparsely populated (by buildings) worlds, which nowadays also isn't a thing, and with the release and new armor system that made carrying capacity increase with armor and pocket mods more abundant... Unlike animal tracker and infiltrator which where never useful to begin with.
Animal tracker just needs a buff. Turn it on at all times, maybe enhance the radius when crouching. Add zombie critters. Hell, at high levels maybe you should even be able sniff out zombie zombies at a small radius. Sniff the air like Wolverine. "Don't go that way bub...wind's bringing the smell of undeath around that corner." They call it PERCEPTION after all. The tree needs some love. It's full of things that are cool in theory but not in practice as the game is currently implemented.
Playing on similar difficulties to You Prebuilt, well over a thousand hours too. Temperature Mods are far more handy than You make them out to be, particularly in PvP Servers because of the explosive resistance. Additionally Heavy Armor is a must in those servers and Custom Fittings are a must for heavy armor and are second only to armor plating mods.
Infiltrator delaying floor boards can be handy in multiplayer too since it allows the point man to trigger it at a delay and for other party members to walk over them safely. But like You said this is all subjective and people will find some things more useful in some situations than others will.
Other than that I mostly agree with the conclusion on these perks but...
By the end game we have over 200 perk points to splash around so it's not toooo bad to spend a few extra on some of these perks, as by the time they become niche they take up such a small portion of Your total perk point pool it doesn't really matter, investing in a broad array of stats is usually better for people like me who don't fight blood moons in a base but out in the streets instead. This video refers more to early game issues and troubles from what I can tell, not the day 300+ play thrus. But then again I've been playing this game on the hardest settings since A16 and still haven't gotten the meet Your maker achievement so maybe I'm just built different. take my words with a grain of salt I guess? ... Really should stand in a blade trap and get that achievement already so I can just 100% the game.
I play Undead Legacy. I actually find tracking useful, but for a weird reason. We build pretty large farms, and we need lots of rotten flesh. Tracking doesn't of course, help you find undead animals, but in UL it helps you find enough more animals to rank up your animal harvesting skill, which, when you do kill undead animals, helps you get more rotten flesh.
Both Heat Endurance and Pack Mule could be fixed pretty easily. They could just make temperature more important and add a few more slots so that having all the pocket mods doesn't give you all the slots. The water filter for the helmet is useful, but just throw it in your drone late game. You can just throw it on when you need to drink something.
pack mule is definitely more useful now that you only have 4 pieces of clothing. they added a quad pocket mod to compensate but it uses legendary parts
I think a lot of these are bad maxed out but good for 1 point wonders especially if you plan your build and know what your hard and soft capping
Treasure Hunter could be good if it made maps show up in loot more often (why doesn't it?!)
Animal Tracker would be great if it was refactored to... Tracker. Final tier highlighting zombies nearby that haven't detected you yet.
Infiltrator could be good if it let you get through spikes and barbed wire with minimal effect, and be able to use fences and railings as ladders.
Im so late..but i do want to add if you play your cards right buried supplies can = TONS of XP when joined with Treasure Hunter
Animal tracker was probably great in a18 lol. Animals seem extremely over abundant now.
... and I take 2/3 insulated just because the cold notice is annoying and I live in the snow for the angry walking food containers, lol.
2:50 “relatively weak tree”
Me: with a spear build that one shots zombies almost every time to the head.
You: who doesn't look at upload dates and the version this video was made in and think about whether spears were good back in that update (Fun fact: They sucked balls)
@@IzPrebuilt Was gonna sub but then I find you being an ass over something as small as this.
I feel like wanting to see in the dark while quietly drinking piss in a cowboy hat is something that regularly happens in Texas. I have no citation for this claim and will not be taking further questions at this time.
I mean, this is pretty accurate. And thankfully I don't have to choose, but if I DID have to choose between head lamp mod and 1 skill point in pack mule. I'd 100% always put a point into pack mule, without the head lamp mod the game becomes at least 50% worse.
so, if I could tweak official perks, I kinda match with you in this, so I would do these changes:
- mix Lucky Looter and Treasure Hunter, so is a lot more valuable and considerable to pick, also change the values of Lucky Looter to add a multiplyier to gamestage bonus instead of a couple of points, for example 1 would be regular gamestage bonus vs gamestage zombies:
1.1 in tier 1 (10% GL in general), 1.25 in tier 2 (25% better GL), 1.5 in tier 3 (so a 50% better Gamestage Loot in general, if your gamestage is 100, you'll get an usual loot for gamestage 150, you tell me if that can be great or not, specially if you go to the wasteland where the gamestage doubles (GL too in consequence) and you get a gamestage loot of 300, if you can deal with the zombies
- the infiltrator seems a lot more useful in PvP servers, where some players could place mines hidden in the grass around their bases, wich can be troll as hell. Urban Combat v.5 can prevent them from exploding, but pick it up and use it on your favor is something that has use in horde nights (I mean, free defenses), at least. Is a pvp perk, so I think it can remain as it is, like the Leader one, if still exists
- Well Insulated and Pack Mule are useless, I mean, at the long run you have those issues solved, probably Pack Mule could enable extra slots that cannot be unlocked with pockets, wich could sound unfair, but imagine running around with 63 inventory slots instead of 45 (45 being with no Pack Mule but lots of pockets mod to increase carry capacity), and well insulated could be merged with Iron Gut, I mean, less water and food consuption AND less loss of these by weather harshness seems compatible
The only time I've ever taken pack mule was in Undead Legacy, which has a weight based inventory system and packmule gave better weight management than the average pocket mod. A triple pocket mod that gives 10 carry capacity or one perk that gives 20. Both. Both are great.
the only perk I use out of these is insulated, but for cosmetic purposes, so I can wear any type of gear I want in any weather and not die to cold damage lol I actually like the snow biome a lot too so there is also that
I 100% agree it's one of the worst perks along with the rest of the perks that were named in the video
there is the possible event where you play for so long that you have enough skill point to unlock all perks in all trees, in which case theres no reason not to use those skills, however virtually nobody plays for that long
@@stevdor6146 I started a game with cheats on so I could start the game with a maxed out skill trees, it's day 15 and I have a gyrocopter, two robotic turrets, level 6 iron tools, a drone, full crafting capabilities, and loads of food and medical supplies, I'm doing level 3 clears with ease
Pack mule with extended backpack mods is great. But yeah. Vanilla is trash.
No paragraph. Agreed. Haven't used these perks in years. Pass on drinking my own piss.
Well, it looks like with the armor rework, skills that increase heat and frost resistance may become more relevant.
In addition, they allow the player to build fires less often and be more frugal with food and water.
i feel like perception is a more rogue build where you lay traps and run from zombies rather than stay and fight...perception should have a skill called adrenaline dump. the first time you get hit by a zombie parry it or it deals no damage and you run faster. And a skill book that if you have the running clothes suit you run faster as well. it seems like a tree thats made for guerilla warfare
Viewers should keep in mind playing modded servers can change things. The first example I can think of is pack mule is not always useless if you use a mod that gives more inventory slots since more slots means more locked slots that the pocket mods will be unable to handle. For the vanillia game though I 100% agree with you on these being the worst perks.
As of Alpha 21 with Fergit'n Elixir being so much cheaper than in the past, I honestly feel like Pack Mule isn't a terrible pickup in the early game where you don't quite have access to all the pocket mods you'd normally need - helps in the short-term, and isn't expensive to fix in the slightest. Still the worst perk in the long run, but not so much in the short term now for me.
I agree with just about all of this.
Like temp needs to be fixed, what is considered Cold and freezing. Or hot and sweltering is a matter of perspective.
I live in Montana, we get it all.
In the Winter, After being in -40F for a few weeks 45 above feels like summertime. Some people don't realize that is a 85 degree swing.
Today we are approaching 100F, it does feel hot to us....but it wouldn't faze people in Arizona.
I think when cold or hot you move slower, and accuracy is affected and gets worse as the temp gets worse.
So when aiming or just trying to grab stuff with the mouse the cursor should get real shaky or the crosshairs are shaking and get worse as opposed to having NO crosshair sway at all, which is unrealistic.
I have managed to get all my pockets w/o the perk and still get the goggles
to maximize your burried supplies, use exp boost and dig, do not collect treasure,. kill,. dig,. kill,. dig,. abuse the spawn and you can level really fast. Animal perk is useless during day, but really usefull at night back in A-20 because there were wolves everywhere,.. but A-21 has alot less wolves. Mines perk is used in wasteland only games. small perception error, level 7 in a stat cost 9 points, not 7. Well insulated used in frostland only games, or desert biomes. Pack mule is used only in early game. many of these perks are used early and retrained later around level 50 to 80. THE ABSOLUTE USELESS perk is stealth perks. Zombies in new POI spawn only once entered a room and in rage mode. A-21 made stealth near useless unless you wander around at night. For mods the most useful OP mod is the helmet light, especially when it rains and you are indoors, screen goes black.
Not me starting a new game about a week ago, being on day 5, and I'd already taken your # 1 & #2 perks lmao. In my defence, I'm only a casual player.
"angry walking food containers" yeah, true.
I think Pack Mule is amazing. One point and you already got some good extra "space".
In the game i'm playing at the moment in A21, i'm at week 35 and i haven't found either the tripple armor mod nor the double clothing pocket mod.
Also, since A21, you can get the learning elixir for relatively cheap
@@stefanknauer7180 I'm on my first play through and I felt bad for taking pack mule, this makes me feel a little better
@@nicholasdignan1407 When playing a game always remember one thing: If you think taking a certain skill is gonna be helpful, just do it and take it!
Especially in single player games and games where you can respec (like in 7d2d), you'll not loose out too much on just going with whatever feels right!
So dont feel bad about something like that :)
I never put points into infiltrator, pack mule, insulation and treasure hunter either. I do put point in animal tracker but later on i don’t even use it as i can see the animals like you said.
I feel like the armor pocket mods have gotten rarer to find since this video
I agree 100% We must play alike. That shot on the bird was so so sexy! Keep up the awesome work
Me: Man I hope the devs make harsh temperatures actually threatening again in the release
The devs: Seemingly completely removed temperatures
Funnily enough i think perception is fairly powerful but ive never taken any points in the 3 skills of that tree you mentioned (minus animal tracker, i always grab 1 single point in that early game), guess my hunch that they were bad was right lol
When you do a custom map and you spawn into Wastelands because you made the majority of the map Wastelands, ONE point into animal tracking is very useful early on as I need to eat the snakes to survive and they are NOT easy to see.
I honestly thought Lucky Looter was gonna be in this top 5 worst perks, since if all you do is grind quests and play without loot respawn, the only time you'd get use out of it is when reloading a POI with a quest.
But I guess that is reason enough for it NOT to be on the list, as it still does something regardless of settings, even with scarce loot?
the looting faster effect alone is enough of a quality of life to make it a great perk, the loot bonus means you get better loot earliert
"See in the dark as you quietly drink piss while wearing a cowboy hat". Genius.
The Infiltrator perk saves my ass in PVP servers. You don't know how many times I've picked up free mines to set up traps in other players bases or popular POIs.
Oh my, someone call a doctor for perk # 1. There's no recovering from that beating lol. Great video Prebuilt!
I didn't realize this was a year old until I saw you open your character screen. Neat list though.
After Version 1.0 removed all the clothing and restricted you to 4 pieces of armor with extremely limited available mod slots, Pack Mule is actually pretty useful now. At least in the first couple days. Other than that, the rest of the video still holds up.
we're at about 35 days in and never found any of those things that are supposedly "easy to find"
The infiltrator perk is not useful in the wastelands. They may be common ther ebut the perk has to be taken in another situation: *MILITARY BASES* .
There're military bases *SURROUNDED* by dozens of mines.
Buried treasure with an auger max level treasure hunter, and a friend
Ohohohohooh it's so fun to coop those with them.
You can spawn so many zombies on them, my friend has almost died so many times now.
at least 1 point in animal tracking is very helpful, especially early on when finding food can be a bit of a challenge.
I completely agree with all the perks you put on this list besides the last one pack mule though yea it wastes points to add more mods for armor and muffle mods arent that important when it comes to pve but pvp id say it’s completely different and id rather have pack mule to be more silent when trying to raid someone and also having a full inventory and never having to be encumbered in case if i die and my triple pocket mod armor got looted
yo pack mule is literally in the thumbnail of this video and i just wanna say that pack mule is an incredibly useful perk if you don't wanna carry around steroids 24/7, and for those of you who will say "but what about pocket mods?" you mean to tell me that there are no other mods that would be more useful on your armor than pockets? just get the pack mule perk and save your armor equipment slots for advanced fittings mods, banded armor mods, or even Advanced Muffled connectors, there are so many mods that are worth using to increase your stamina, and decrease your noise, and there just isn't enough space for these things if you're using pocket mods. As an added bonus, not only can you max out pack mule with only a strength level of 5, but going down strength is a good idea anyways so you can get Miner 69er and Mother Load for early game resource gathering
Saw Pack Mule coming as number one from a mile away. All good points.
I dont really understand your point about pack mule, no hate of course but its really good fro the early game and fergetin elixir gives ypu your points back, so i dont get why you shouldn’t get it early before you have armor and pocket mods?
It for surely sucks that they made it to where you can't just get water with glass jars now you can't industrialize duct tape anymore or even get water from yoga plants directly
Not yoga I mean yucca
man I didn't realize zombies showed up after every shrinking of the circle! so you might actually get MORE zombies to fight total during a buried supplies if the skill is maxed? That definitely does make buried supplies less appealing. must have been a while since I played last cuz I recall zombies only appearing once you opened the chest.
“I play on the hardest of settings”…meanwhile it’s day 1 and he has a decked out pistol 🤔
Yes? this is called background gameplay? I spawned in some gear and shot some zombies so that this VIDEO has VIDEO in it. I don't store much of my own gameplay because that would be hundreds of gigabytes so i go get new B roll for my videos.
Are you under the impression that somehow turning the difficulty down would magically give me a pistol? that's not how the game works.
Animals are "angry, walking, food containers". I never thought of it like that lol.