M1 MacBook Pro and Air review: Apple delivers

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 8 авг 2024
  • Apple has updated three Mac with its own M1 processors: the Macbook Air, the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, and the Mac mini. Will Intel-based apps run? Will they be fast? Will they live up to Apple's battery life claims? Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn have a thousand questions, and almost all of them have been answered.
    Read more about the MacBook Pro here: bit.ly/32TzYG2
    And here for the MacBook Air: bit.ly/3lGtO3d
    Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
    Like The Verge on Facebook: goo.gl/2P1aGc
    Follow on Twitter: goo.gl/XTWX61
    Follow on Instagram: goo.gl/7ZeLvX
    The Vergecast Podcast: pod.link/430333725
    More about our podcasts: www.theverge.com/podcasts
    Read More: www.theverge.com
    Community guidelines: bit.ly/2D0hlAv
    Wallpapers from The Verge: bit.ly/2xQXYJr
    Subscribe to Verge Science on RUclips, a new home base for our explorations into the future of science: bit.ly/2FqJZMl
  • НаукаНаука

Комментарии • 2,4 тыс.

  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  3 года назад +1024

    Has Apple done enough to help you trust its all new processors?

    • @zaneearldufour
      @zaneearldufour 3 года назад +52

      Waiting on people to install + test Linux distros

    • @timelinebreaking6703
      @timelinebreaking6703 3 года назад +54

      Happy Diwali to all hardworking the verge employees

    • @sungsubeck
      @sungsubeck 3 года назад +7

      Is it overheated when you edit videos?

    • @johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201
      @johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 3 года назад +4

      Selling a few old lenses to Adorama as we speak towards a M1 MacBook Pro.. We shall see...

    • @eronan03
      @eronan03 3 года назад +29

      Nope. Gen1 is a big no for me. M2, though? Sure.

  • @iamsathvik
    @iamsathvik 3 года назад +1465

    I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS“ this actually is..
    a x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯

    • @sarthak.shrivastava
      @sarthak.shrivastava 3 года назад +55

      Yeah this is really impressive stuff!

    • @aritradattagupta9181
      @aritradattagupta9181 3 года назад +81

      Exactly. This should be talkd about more. It's just ridiculous that non-native transpiled apps are performing better than they perform on x86 chips.

    • @ahmadshiddiqn
      @ahmadshiddiqn 3 года назад +96

      And that is how apple beats microsoft on arm chip race... this first gen arm chip already blew everything away unlike what happened to Surface Pro X last year

    • @USNEM
      @USNEM 3 года назад +43

      The only crazy thing here is that 720p camera 😂

    • @AustinRoss
      @AustinRoss 3 года назад +17

      @@USNEM Google used the same camera in the Pixel for 4 years... and just updated it with software... no reason to think that Apple can't do some of that here...

  • @robsmith5434
    @robsmith5434 3 года назад +1014

    What is crazy is that this is the weakest chip Apple will ever make for a laptop. Next year’s 16 inch MacBook Pro is going to be a BEAST.

    • @derekhsieh8713
      @derekhsieh8713 3 года назад +198

      @Chrono they’re not gonna make a less powerful chip in a more expensive computer

    • @srgb5594
      @srgb5594 3 года назад +29

      @Chrono we all know that already.

    • @huntermeyer4972
      @huntermeyer4972 3 года назад +3

      My thoughts exactly, this is fantastic

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol 3 года назад +10

      I don’t think that 16 inch MacBook will be much difference
      Maybe a m1x and ofc that 16 inch screen
      Probably like 5 - 20% better performance on an m1x

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol 3 года назад +5

      But let’s hope that 2021 MacBooks get touchscreen

  • @shubi454
    @shubi454 3 года назад +815

    RIP anyone who just purchased an older low end mac

    • @Anthony-sg3bp
      @Anthony-sg3bp 3 года назад +11

      Return it maybe

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 3 года назад +9

      I'd say.. poor souls that choose a mac in the first place, M1 chip or not.. Read my reply to "Anthony Jiang"..

    • @princesidon
      @princesidon 3 года назад +26

      I bought a MacBook Pro right before the transition because I wanted to have Windows. I don’t regret it.

    • @LouieAblett
      @LouieAblett 3 года назад +73

      @@princesidon I think I've found intel's only customer base moving into 2021

    • @middleman3165
      @middleman3165 3 года назад +2

      Meh, not really. I have the 2020 Air but couldn’t have waited until now to get the new one.

  • @ephphatha230
    @ephphatha230 3 года назад +841

    Sitting on a park bench hunched over a laptop looks cool but is actually really uncomfortable.

    • @nothumanlol
      @nothumanlol 3 года назад +38

      And will damage your spine

    • @caynancrenshaw
      @caynancrenshaw 3 года назад +3

      lol... i see you have,, Alice In Chains - Black gives Way To Blue.... as your profile, whats your favorite song off the album

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 3 года назад

      And dangerous

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard 3 года назад +29

      And also it actually doesn't look cool. It looks douchey.

    • @heritageimaging7768
      @heritageimaging7768 3 года назад +22

      @@nutbastard Being the only guy in the city and wearing a mask looks douchey.

  • @mjmkevin
    @mjmkevin 3 года назад +809

    They don’t get hot? So I’m supposed to pay for a Macbook AND heating now??

    • @GTAandApplechannel
      @GTAandApplechannel 3 года назад +3

      @@srgb5594 pay for a heater

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol 3 года назад +4

      Oh my, it doesn’t get hot?
      Why you want a laptop on your lap that burns?

    • @HogRider420
      @HogRider420 3 года назад +92

      @@insanitylol it's a joke....

    • @Ryan_Schlutz
      @Ryan_Schlutz 3 года назад

      Lol.... I needed that.

    • @_roninx996_8
      @_roninx996_8 3 года назад

      Buy laptop coolpad😉

  • @giosanpedro
    @giosanpedro 3 года назад +2333

    Now super excited for the 16-inch. It's probably gonna scream, quietly.

    • @jatilq
      @jatilq 3 года назад +21

      I got mine less than a year ago and I'm curious about the upgrade, but I'm not looking forward to trying to max out the ram.

    • @Dr.Zubair
      @Dr.Zubair 3 года назад +98

      Hi rich people's🖐️🖐️🖐️

    • @Anderson_Hwang
      @Anderson_Hwang 3 года назад +30

      There are rumors that Apple will refresh its 16 inch MBP with 10th gen intel CPUs for one last time before transitioning to Apple Silicon. Don't get your hopes up too soon

    • @neerajk2901
      @neerajk2901 3 года назад +3

      nice im poor ,
      good for you XD

    • @derickrcruz
      @derickrcruz 3 года назад +1

      ay! love your vids man!

  • @monusingh3719
    @monusingh3719 3 года назад +286

    Apple was just trying to be humble towards intel at the presentation for the sake of good old days.🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

    • @screenwiz3718
      @screenwiz3718 3 года назад +9

      Very true

    • @Tatalino511
      @Tatalino511 3 года назад +7

      Agree..

    • @PichReachsey
      @PichReachsey 3 года назад +10

      They try to keep sell Mac with intel haha

    • @ivettesmith12
      @ivettesmith12 3 года назад +37

      I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS “ this actually is.. an x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯

    • @leftydiscord
      @leftydiscord 3 года назад +5

      Adding a touchscreen would add 9,999 premium to the price. They just making a breakthrough charging the same for m1 from intel. So why would they want to rush everything? Adding another trillion annually is what they do.

  • @thuhienle1814
    @thuhienle1814 3 года назад +80

    These solved almost every problems of arm chips in computers
    Surface Pro X has left the chat 😂

  • @J-Unit90
    @J-Unit90 3 года назад +1435

    Just chiming in to say the team at The Verge is doing an absolutely wonderful job with these reviews in spite of 2020 and all the challenges of wfh. The format of this review is super clever.

    • @TheVerge
      @TheVerge  3 года назад +110

      🙏 Thank you Jordan!

    • @emil5911
      @emil5911 3 года назад +13

      I approve of this message!

    • @Switching2Tech
      @Switching2Tech 3 года назад +6

      I agree! Amazingly slick editing and production, Verge team! Also helped persuade me to buy the MacBook Air (thank you!). QQ - Is the minus 100 nits brightness difference noticeable though?

    • @TheMoni7548
      @TheMoni7548 3 года назад +2

      I didn't like their iPhone PRO review as no Profeatue was put to the test except the camera not the LiDAR this review is great and seems genuine

    • @MrEnterainment
      @MrEnterainment 3 года назад +2

      I totally agree... 💯!!

  • @Peahnuts
    @Peahnuts 3 года назад +478

    “Chrom pushes the battery DOWN to 8-10 hrs” ok Apple weren’t kidding when they said the battery life improved. Imagine getting 8-10hrs using chrome on any other Mac/windows laptop 😂

    • @nullsurfer7331
      @nullsurfer7331 3 года назад +73

      Now imagine if Chrome gets optimized for M1. This thing could fly.

    • @tanzen1020
      @tanzen1020 3 года назад +17

      @@nullsurfer7331 I could use chrome all day without charging, I'm sold

    • @kannamustafa6043
      @kannamustafa6043 3 года назад +9

      With a ryzen 4000U laptop you can

    • @paulwin9036
      @paulwin9036 3 года назад +2

      I thought this was standard? Atleast on the Itel 11th gen and Ryzen 4000 series laptops.

    • @0741921
      @0741921 3 года назад +12

      @@nullsurfer7331 chrome will still find a way to still be a resource hog

  • @jayanthkumar7964
    @jayanthkumar7964 3 года назад +25

    3 years in, Rosetta 2 is deprecated, Universal apps are just apps. M3 screams over and above the competition with so much more space and resources for computing.

  • @agraciotti
    @agraciotti 3 года назад +11

    2:59
    I swear I thought the bike guy would steal your laptop. Lol

  • @mennybrown4109
    @mennybrown4109 3 года назад +363

    "Apple chips" sounds like a dish from a chic restaurant in Beverly hills

    • @bw4589
      @bw4589 3 года назад +23

      The price tag goes well with Beverly Hills lol 🤣

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 3 года назад +1

      @@bw4589 its apple, i wouldnt expect anything less. hell its the same prices as before so really nothing special

    • @srgb5594
      @srgb5594 3 года назад +1

      @@bradhaines3142 nothing special? I wish there were brain implants available.

    • @nuloom
      @nuloom 3 года назад

      @@srgb5594 yeah, i suppose it’s nothing out of ordinary in terms of mac pricing, but certainly something extraordinary in terms of mac value.

    • @bw4589
      @bw4589 3 года назад +1

      @Dave Daniels no one’s hating. I’m an Apple user myself, we were just joking. Chill bro

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 3 года назад +684

    Seems great. Really keen to know how the 16" Pro performs with video editing when they update that.

    • @teamenderhd7282
      @teamenderhd7282 3 года назад +3

      Yeah hopefully it’s pretty good!

    • @gurudarshan2635
      @gurudarshan2635 3 года назад +5

      Hey Karl!

    • @duttaoindril
      @duttaoindril 3 года назад +4

      M1X

    • @uncommonname1234
      @uncommonname1234 3 года назад +16

      @@VaibhavAgrawal01 Kyu bheek mang ke india ki image kharaab karta hai be ? Aise chutiyapa karke kya milta be. Kisi ke bhi man me jhaat bhar bhi izzat nahi badhti tereliye jab koi famous youtuber tere comment like karta hai to ulta hazaaro logo ki galiya khayega aise chaale karne se.

    • @VaibhavAgrawal01
      @VaibhavAgrawal01 3 года назад +2

      @@uncommonname1234 Srry bhai , thanks for the advice though👍👍

  • @fransisco5748
    @fransisco5748 3 года назад +21

    You know they're really serious when they review something TOGETHER

  • @felipefariast
    @felipefariast 3 года назад +15

    These guys are too good! Been watching these reviews for years now, Nilay is amazing and Dieter is also great and add a new point of view, which is always welcome.

  • @jhyns
    @jhyns 3 года назад +88

    3:34 these shots of the big sur wallpaper reflecting on the keyboard and space grey aluminum are stunning

  • @Sooper35
    @Sooper35 3 года назад +243

    That side by side review and the way they look at each other when one is talking is next level production quality.

  • @mohammadehtesham4576
    @mohammadehtesham4576 3 года назад +68

    When both say "Here we go" and the ads pop out!

  • @FacesOfIT
    @FacesOfIT 3 года назад +32

    A Nilay Patel is spawned every time an Apple product is up for review.

  • @Ajay-km8br
    @Ajay-km8br 3 года назад +101

    Yeah the laptops are all nice and dandy but can we take a moment to appreciate how well made this video is? Y’all at The Verge need a raise.

  • @nkozyechichikuluma669
    @nkozyechichikuluma669 3 года назад +76

    "more processed version of bad" LMFAO.

  • @nixtr3sharma
    @nixtr3sharma 3 года назад +4

    Does the fan on this laptop go full throttle as well when connected to an external monitor?

  • @brutusgallicus3568
    @brutusgallicus3568 3 года назад +14

    Yeah, this is the big jump I've been waiting for. I ordered a Macbook Pro today. I might have gotten a MacBook Air if I had spent more time looking them both over, but then maybe not. Better cooling is not a small thing because you never know, you know.

  • @Arnav_Saxena
    @Arnav_Saxena 3 года назад +144

    At Apple HQ:
    Intern : should we also update webcam on MacBook Air ?
    Rest : Nah, it’s for next year refresh !😎

    • @jeffkung5088
      @jeffkung5088 3 года назад +18

      They been having that convo for 10 years now

    • @alexopokuagyemang7191
      @alexopokuagyemang7191 3 года назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @jeremiahfink5440
      @jeremiahfink5440 3 года назад +5

      @@jeffkung5088 they can easily come out with a laptop that does everything everyone wants to do but then there would be no reason for people to upgrade for a long time

    • @jeffkung5088
      @jeffkung5088 3 года назад

      @@jeremiahfink5440 But I’m not exactly gonna upgrade for a WebCam. This should be basic stuff by now

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 3 года назад

      @@jeremiahfink5440 that is not how it works.

  • @RaXXha
    @RaXXha 3 года назад +135

    To be fair, the fan on the old macbook air was about as useful as not having one at all. xD

    • @Jay_Script
      @Jay_Script 3 года назад +5

      It's why apple removed the fan on the new Apple Silicon MacBook Air to remove production costs and reap those profits ;)

    • @PersepolisBand
      @PersepolisBand 3 года назад +12

      @@Jay_Script so cool ! minus two dollars on each laptop, definetely will bring back apple to the market and finally beat all its competitors !

    • @sourav7162
      @sourav7162 3 года назад +3

      @@PersepolisBand The fan costs like $20. You know that apple will sell these airs in millions. Now do the math.

    • @PersepolisBand
      @PersepolisBand 3 года назад +1

      @@sourav7162 5$ on Ali express to buy so lmao thanks late, as if a minus even 5$ cost on a computer was a reason for a company to change a design architecture

    • @sourav7162
      @sourav7162 3 года назад +1

      @@PersepolisBand Apple parts are usually more expensive.

  • @GarrettWease
    @GarrettWease 3 года назад +8

    Great review. Love the team up. Can’t wait to see how intense video editing holds up on the inevitable 16” MBP M1.

  • @miket9724
    @miket9724 3 года назад +10

    I LOVE that you guys did this review together. I don’t even want a new laptop let alone a MacBook but this video was fantastic and just fun to watch!

  • @dksa8085
    @dksa8085 3 года назад +22

    Guys- This editing and camera work is incredible, and its still legitimately informative. Truly well done.

  • @cat-.-
    @cat-.- 3 года назад +147

    None of us knew Intel has been ripping off humanity this badly until today

    • @theartshow1476
      @theartshow1476 3 года назад +16

      You must be referring to mostly Mac users because it’s been an ongoing battle in the tech community for a while. Pretty much everyone knows.

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 года назад +2

      Imagine what apple will do lol

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- 3 года назад +2

      @@theartshow1476 yeah you are probably right, I thought the latest intel mac was the best they could do lol silly me.

    • @Fabio-rg9nv
      @Fabio-rg9nv 3 года назад +7

      @@theartshow1476 Nah, Mac users experienced it too when Intel didn‘t hold their huge promises on power efficient 10nm chips in 2016, which were supposed to be used for the 12“ fan-less MacBook. It was partly Intel‘s fault that the 12“ MacBook had to be discontinued. And now 4 years later Intel is still trying to deliver on those „efficient“ 10nm chips.
      *Edit: admittedly, Intel‘s new 11th CPU is quite good and competes with TSMCs 7nm node. But a little too late to be taken seriously at that point. And whether that decent quad core CPU is even scalable remains to be seen. It‘ll have to if they want to have any chance in keeping up with AMD and Apple.

    • @TheAxlin
      @TheAxlin 3 года назад +3

      AMD has been demolishing Intel the last couple years too, especially with the most recently released Ryzen chips. It's like Intel isn't even trying any more. The company a shadow of its former self.

  • @DanielOceanGaming
    @DanielOceanGaming 3 года назад +40

    The script of this video, the direction, the editing, the music and of course the review itself can all be summarized with one word: "PRICELESS!". In my opinion, this video outshines almost every other past Verge video. To all the people who put this video together, keep it up! And, thanks.

    • @chuithrowaway77
      @chuithrowaway77 3 года назад +1

      Yeah the laptops are all nice and dandy but can we take a moment to appreciate how well made this video is? Y’all at The Verge need a raise.

  • @TypicalKannadiga
    @TypicalKannadiga 3 года назад

    What about adobe softwares we already own ? Will it run on this M1 MacBooks

  • @ne0tic
    @ne0tic 3 года назад +127

    Apple Silicon in Mac's looks really promising! This change could be huge, not just for Apple, but the whole industry in the coming years.

    • @xOogieBoogie3x
      @xOogieBoogie3x 3 года назад +3

      They're still grossly inferior to AMD's Zen 3 CPUs though, so no, not at all. The Verge are just known Apple fanboys.

    • @hunterherobrine5209
      @hunterherobrine5209 3 года назад +26

      @@xOogieBoogie3x AMD doesn't have Zen 3 laptop CPUs...

    • @ne0tic
      @ne0tic 3 года назад +13

      @@xOogieBoogie3x They should be worse than ZEN 3, if it weren’t, the M1 chip would be insane. Keep in mind that it will be the lowest end Apple Silicon chip for Mac’s so. Still tho, it got a more powerful single-core or at least it matches the single-core scores of ZEN 3 and this is while using 1/5 of the wattage. Apple are off to a very good start with Apple Silicon, now we just need to wait and see if they can scale it up to compete with AMD in desktop as well. If you don’t think the M1 chip is looking impressive than I don’t know what kind of insane performance gains you are expecting.

    • @xOogieBoogie3x
      @xOogieBoogie3x 3 года назад +1

      @@hunterherobrine5209 I meant Zen 2+
      The M1 is comparable to a 4000 series Ryzen 5.

    • @DonScarace
      @DonScarace 3 года назад +7

      @@xOogieBoogie3x Based on what? How do you compare them?

  • @nullsurfer7331
    @nullsurfer7331 3 года назад +134

    Steve Jobs died 9 years ago, but it's only today that I am convinced that Apple could live without him. They really can innovate.

    • @j2simpso
      @j2simpso 3 года назад +18

      I was convinced when they launched the iWatch and AirPods. Hopefully this leadership will continue into the future. Apple can best be described in two words: Innovative ecosystem

    • @aliasgerchallawala4582
      @aliasgerchallawala4582 3 года назад

      I agree

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 3 года назад +2

      The move to its own processor is part of Jobs's plan in 2008 just a year after the launch of iPhone. Not only that, he predicted the move before he rejoined Apple

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 года назад +2

      But they haven't, they even went with Steve jobs iphone design lol

    • @AaronAbernethy
      @AaronAbernethy 3 года назад

      @@The-Heart-Will-Testify Which was a rip of products from another company. Steve wasn’t magic. He just knew what he liked (and that’s probably the biggest understatement here).

  • @kebireo
    @kebireo 3 года назад +36

    This is mind blowing. Looking at how well ARM did on Windows, I didn’t have high hopes for Apple Silicon, and yet Apple has completely shattered my expectations.

    • @Shawn.Shooter
      @Shawn.Shooter 2 года назад +1

      Late comment but ARM never did well on Windows. Microsoft even stopped using ARM based chips on their Sufrace devices and started using Intel chips instead. Also they discontinued Windows 10X which never did run well on ARM based devices so not sure what do you mean by saying "Looking at how well ARM did on Windows" which never happened.

    • @bennyzebra1386
      @bennyzebra1386 2 года назад

      @@Shawn.Shooter whooooooosh

    • @vasu5361
      @vasu5361 2 года назад +2

      @@Shawn.Shooter you must be fun at parties.

  • @ev.c6
    @ev.c6 3 года назад +24

    Apple hardware engineers have done an amazing job. They got a lot of experience designing chips for the iPhone and now they applied it for the notebooks. Can't even wait for the second generation of these things.

  • @Hobbles_
    @Hobbles_ 3 года назад +244

    I'm honestly so surprised that this went as well as it did. I wasn't expecting a dumpster fire or anything, but I was not really expecting much better than Intel based macs on non-native apps. Great job Apple. I have to say though, I had much higher hopes for the webcam after hearing about the better image processing. The main reason that webcams look so bad is the lack of a good strong ISP in normal computers. That truly is a dumpster fire.

    • @xenajin6827
      @xenajin6827 3 года назад +8

      That webcam problem is a hardware limitation. Excellent software and image processors can back up a below average hardware to a certain extent.

    • @williamfowl8670
      @williamfowl8670 3 года назад

      The problem isn't actually the hardware. It's the distance from the pcb. You see it with windows 2-in-1s. Their webcams are so much better than the laptops because the image data can be processed by the cpu directly. On laptops, the wired runs are via USB 2.0, which is terrible for latency and throughput.

    • @jackdominiak445
      @jackdominiak445 3 года назад

      I'm actually using the web cam, (I upgraded from a MacBook Pro i5) it's much better than on the previous Macs, these guys are lying basically, because unexpectedly they couldn't find any other faults with the M1!

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 3 года назад +1

      Linus from linustechtips grumbles in the background about being sceptical...

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 3 года назад

      @@jackdominiak445 it’s more about the fact that compared to almost every other laptop at similar price points you get a much better camera. It’s also the fact that more people are working at home and would expect a very good camera on a “Pro” machine rather than just an ok one. It’s apple being stingy again, as they are with reducing ports, and expensive r]RAM and storage upgrades. It’s right to call them out on this every single time rather than just accept it. Having said all that, these laptops and the apple mini are impressive, and I’m kind of tempted to get a Mac mini now. I see a lot of comments from windows users who are curious as well.

  • @MikeDancy
    @MikeDancy 3 года назад

    how do I get the content from my camera onto the macbook? I don't see a SD card tray

  • @kameranneises5080
    @kameranneises5080 3 года назад +14

    Great duet you guys! Such a quality review with some personality

  • @mikeward1701
    @mikeward1701 3 года назад +276

    iOS apps being available on macOS could be huge for security and privacy. Banking for example. If I can use my banks iOS app on macOS, I don't have to go to their website in a web browser, where I could accidentally mistype the URL, or be subject to a browser exploit, man-in-the-middle or phishing attack etc.

    • @RamMohammadJosephKaur
      @RamMohammadJosephKaur 3 года назад +6

      Yeah but its not executed well, then not a great experience for the customer even if the alternative Is available.

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol 3 года назад +17

      @@RamMohammadJosephKaur I think it will be ok.

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 года назад +3

      It can still be hacked lol, apple security is not government grade

    • @moseskarunia
      @moseskarunia 3 года назад +3

      No. Most of the time you get "hacked", it's because you stupidly use stupid password, or put your password unencrypted digitally, or someone social engineers you, which is basically your fault.

    • @its_argho
      @its_argho 3 года назад +2

      See long story short. For a company like Apple, who charges such an exorbitant price for their products and services, they better be the best in class. That is expected from them. Nothing to be so geeked about.

  • @and280
    @and280 3 года назад +65

    I must say seeing Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn like a reviewing duo was the most exciting thing about this video.

  • @KyudoKun
    @KyudoKun 3 года назад +6

    I think it's safe for Apple to include stickers in their Macbook with "Intel not inside"

  • @vishnuprasanthan2223
    @vishnuprasanthan2223 3 года назад

    If i used intel based ms office for long time like 4 hours will the battery drain fast ?

  • @w99mmt
    @w99mmt 3 года назад +118

    “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been” - Steve Jobs

    • @NYCybertruck
      @NYCybertruck 3 года назад +10

      That’s a Wayne Gretzky quote

    • @mdyer1130
      @mdyer1130 3 года назад +4

      @@NYCybertruck r/wooosh

    • @NYCybertruck
      @NYCybertruck 3 года назад +7

      @@mdyer1130 wow that’s so cool are you a redditor or something

    • @idaho
      @idaho 3 года назад +2

      Micahel Scott

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol 3 года назад +2

      Get off RUclips and go to reddit

  • @siddhshah2024
    @siddhshah2024 3 года назад +92

    **Apple actually delivers on the M1 chip**
    **Sad Linus noises**

    • @Broodjemetbeleg
      @Broodjemetbeleg 3 года назад +5

      Should've kept quiet and tested the damn thing in the first place

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 3 года назад

      @@Broodjemetbeleg Pretty sure he's having Anthony test it. He uses a Mac at home (and is seriously into *nix) so he should give it a fair shake.

    • @rajeevrulz
      @rajeevrulz 3 года назад

      Came to the comments to see this

  • @danezbah
    @danezbah 3 года назад +8

    Damn...makes me really regret getting my updated keyboard Intel Air in-between it's release and when the Apple Silicon was announced...

  • @20_percent
    @20_percent 3 года назад +76

    Technology moves as fast as I go to the store for beer.

    • @gergo.r
      @gergo.r 3 года назад

      not cpu design. this was probably created 4? years ago. So people are still happy to buy a laptop with 16gb ram for 2000$

    • @RoganClipVaultYT
      @RoganClipVaultYT 3 года назад +1

      @@gergo.r what

    • @samarpreetsingh1052
      @samarpreetsingh1052 3 года назад +1

      @@gergo.r what

    • @surfingbilly9654
      @surfingbilly9654 3 года назад +1

      @@gergo.r what

    • @cawashka
      @cawashka 3 года назад

      @@gergo.r what

  • @THEFIRE360
    @THEFIRE360 3 года назад +86

    Even when they don't have touchscreens on the macs. I still see them everywhere covered with fingerprints like they have touch screens. Like what

    • @100colorpencils6
      @100colorpencils6 3 года назад +5

      Lol so true my parents and grandparents laptops look like they are being used as napkins.

  • @jacoblukewood
    @jacoblukewood 3 года назад +24

    "We have a thousand questions going into this review"
    *Proceeds to list 4 questions*

    • @reckless1280
      @reckless1280 3 года назад

      Got it. The next video will be five hours of questions :)

  • @KaisAdventure4896
    @KaisAdventure4896 3 года назад

    I have a 2015 version of Air, how many of you suggests for an upgrade to this 2020 Air?

  • @444fawn
    @444fawn 3 года назад

    i have the macbook pro 2016 model, should i upgrade to a macbook air M1?

  • @fightnight14
    @fightnight14 3 года назад +52

    Deiter: “Stakes are high”
    My tummy: *growls

  • @hiklan
    @hiklan 3 года назад +75

    The lads at the verge killing it with these reviews

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 года назад +5

      Dieder is a top bloke that's for sure.

    • @IAmOmniscient
      @IAmOmniscient 3 года назад +7

      Dieter and Nilay are awesome together! Their energies work so well for these reviews. The Verge makes some of the best produced videos too.

  • @milkyy4168
    @milkyy4168 3 года назад +5

    Quick clarification: the entry model m1 pro has an 8 core gpu as standard, while the entry model m1 air has a 7 core gpu.

  • @Baryn00
    @Baryn00 3 года назад +44

    Literally nobody but the (extreme) wind:
    Dieter: MAAAAAAASK

    • @jsponson
      @jsponson 3 года назад +1

      Gotta do it to feel safe you know... 😉

  • @RodHerzstrom
    @RodHerzstrom 3 года назад +8

    I just got mine and uploaded my unboxing. I'm very excited to try it and see if ANDROID STUDIO works well and other apps ! So many tests to do😝

    • @harshmehlawat8108
      @harshmehlawat8108 3 года назад

      Could you upload a video on Android Studio's performance on these machines? Looking to buy one

    • @-_James_-
      @-_James_- 3 года назад

      Android Studio never works well. ;)

  • @rashidrafi
    @rashidrafi 3 года назад +37

    In the Mac mini review on verges website,it’s written “a truly awful speakers” are you guys serious

    • @hannanahmad2979
      @hannanahmad2979 3 года назад

      Thats what they do 🤣🤣. Autopsy of technology

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 3 года назад +2

      Yes? All the Mac mini’s have had truly awful speakers, so I wouldn’t expect the new M1 version to be much better.

    • @nameslastnames3332
      @nameslastnames3332 3 года назад

      It's a signature feature of our beloved minis, hads off!

  • @wasiahmed1547
    @wasiahmed1547 3 года назад +1

    Can i use it for web design and web development?

  • @nailong
    @nailong 3 года назад +1

    Hi, may I know what is the software you use to bypass when you are using Adobe photoshop to make the current version works on the new m1 chips processor?

  • @jullyangreen7106
    @jullyangreen7106 3 года назад +79

    I feel like y’all saved me money cuz I’ll get the air instead of the 13” pro

    • @jullyangreen7106
      @jullyangreen7106 3 года назад +9

      @Dave Chapelle based on this video and my needs as of right now everything I need is in the air and the pro is more beefy in what it can do but both reach expectations. Don’t get me wrong I’d like the pro but given the way things are it would be better for me to save the money and go with the Air.

    • @parole1768
      @parole1768 3 года назад +4

      8G or 16G?I'm struggling

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced 3 года назад +5

      @@parole1768 Is your livelihood dependent on editing videos or making music? If not take the 8GB memory. Apple has optimised its software to fully stretch out that 8GB memory using their M1 chip so you won't feel sluggish working on it.

    • @RaveN_EDM
      @RaveN_EDM 3 года назад +1

      I mean its like the iphone 12 vs 12 pro.

    • @nhlvan
      @nhlvan 3 года назад +19

      @@hirakaiko5570 you clearly have never used Final Cut

  • @EmpyreanLightASMR
    @EmpyreanLightASMR 3 года назад

    What is the model number of these newest iterations? How do I know best buy isn't pushing the old version?

  • @Qpeiep
    @Qpeiep 3 года назад

    Very nice video! I was hoping to get some advise, if you use parallels and arcGis pro on a daily base via parallels do you recommend this new m1 chip or a higher spec, like the 2,3Ghz 4core, intell version?

  • @Newburyk
    @Newburyk 3 года назад +44

    Is it a Dieter Video?
    Yes: Watch
    No: Skip

    • @farmville_invite
      @farmville_invite 3 года назад +1

      Same, but other way around

    • @Sakuyushi
      @Sakuyushi 3 года назад

      The Verge has many good reporters. I miss Demi Lee

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 3 года назад

      The answer here is YesNo. Then what?

  • @lokeshsingh1454
    @lokeshsingh1454 3 года назад +5

    came here after watching mkbhd video and jesus you guys have got some real details no one has mentioned kuddos to that

  • @vanessatalks1
    @vanessatalks1 3 года назад

    If I do a lot of video editing would the Air still be ok to use? Or would the Pro be better?

  • @nivaldomendonca9495
    @nivaldomendonca9495 3 года назад

    I have a hp envy x360 amd 4700u-16 GB ram, should I replace for the base model macbook air?

  • @rtech5347
    @rtech5347 3 года назад +27

    Back in 2013, I Bought a MacBook Pro 13 inch because it was clearly better than the air. It had a better display, much better performance and it was clearly the best thing for the future
    This time around it is different, the Air is much much closer to the 13” Pro, and is a fantastic offering.

    • @yaoike2449
      @yaoike2449 3 года назад +2

      MBA 16gb or MBP base what would you choose?

    • @aircommandslipperz
      @aircommandslipperz 3 года назад +1

      yea if you are not a power user there is no point getting the pro now

    • @75and1
      @75and1 3 года назад

      Same here. Still rocking a mid 2014 pro. At the time it was a no brainer vs the Air, but now that I’m probably going to buy an M1, Air seems the way to go

    • @m4574
      @m4574 3 года назад

      Same here. Back in 2012 when I bought the retina Pro, the display of the Air alone was reason enough not to buy it. I’m gonna switch to an M1 Air now.

    • @panzer_TZ
      @panzer_TZ 3 года назад +3

      Air is the clear winner this round. Due to efficiency of the M1 chip, you get similar performance, similar battery life, and a similar screen for significantly cheaper. Based on what I’ve seen in this video, I don’t even see a need for the 2-port MacBook Pro to even exist. For example, Id much rather have the Air with 16GB of Unified memory for $1200, than pay $1300 for a base 2-port Pro. If you’re dead set on the Pro, it would definitely be worth it to wait for the upgraded AS chip with 4-ports and a higher performance ceiling.

  • @RamMohammadJosephKaur
    @RamMohammadJosephKaur 3 года назад +9

    I go to Marques for the General Overview. I come to Verge for the Detailed Review.

  • @ayushphogat5273
    @ayushphogat5273 3 года назад

    Which is better MacBook air m1 512gb ssd or MacBook pro m1 256gb ssd?
    Also if MacBook pro have backlit keyboard it's not showing on the site?
    Pls answer......

  • @doncorleone9297
    @doncorleone9297 3 года назад

    How's the Air gonna withstand sustained sound mixing and editing? Any major need to go for the pro?

  • @BlackMysteries1
    @BlackMysteries1 3 года назад +3

    i got my macbook pro with intel i5 in it with an decent discount on it. what do you guys think. keep it or return it in exchange for m1 macbook pro

  • @YashM1234
    @YashM1234 3 года назад +31

    What about support for developers?
    Did you guys run python, docker, Java or any other developer apps ?

    • @rohankauts2339
      @rohankauts2339 3 года назад +2

      DOCKER NOT READY.

    • @ria8850
      @ria8850 3 года назад

      docker not ready yet - the transition kit didn't support emulations, but these do.

    • @sarthak.shrivastava
      @sarthak.shrivastava 3 года назад

      Yeah java as well.

    • @chandrashekard.7543
      @chandrashekard.7543 3 года назад +17

      Docker just dropped its beta version, they expect it to release in a few weeks.
      Python, java and everything else works perfectly.
      Vs code runs on Rosetta for now, Microsoft announced that the native version is coming in a few weeks.
      Homebrew is also in the works and native version will be out in a week.
      NodeJS also works perfectly

    • @chandrashekard.7543
      @chandrashekard.7543 3 года назад +7

      @@sarthak.shrivastava Java runs perfectly, people tested it out by running Minecraft and it performs better that all intel based macs.

  • @simonn1479
    @simonn1479 3 года назад

    so should i buy the 13 inch m1 model now or what im really puzzled with these new reviews

  • @_ayushm79
    @_ayushm79 3 года назад

    Which one should I buy Macbook Pro M1 or Macbook Pro 16 inch i7 please reply ....

  • @somerandompersonontheinter9211
    @somerandompersonontheinter9211 3 года назад +39

    I wanna see this kind of stuff on the ARM based surface pro's.

    • @ZeitGeist_TV
      @ZeitGeist_TV 3 года назад +7

      They need to update the aging Surface Pro laptops to look like the Surface X and they and Apple really lost their minds with the prices on their ARM based laptops. I have the 12.9 inch iPad Pro and the 2017 Surface Pro and have no reason to upgrade either for a while so I'm hoping by the time I decide to do so that the very least Surface Pro laptops and the Surface keyboard get refreshed with a bigger track pad and smaller bezels. I'm hoping that Apple eventually gets Mac OS on iPad Pro since they did so well with their that Mac using their own processors.

    • @Htrdtte44tyy
      @Htrdtte44tyy 3 года назад

      @@ZeitGeist_TV Theyve alreay done that with the surface laptop go

    • @ZeitGeist_TV
      @ZeitGeist_TV 3 года назад

      @@Htrdtte44tyy That has nothing to do with my comment, and with images of the upcoming Surface Pro 8 and is huge outdated bezels Microsoft needs to step up.
      M1 MacBook Pros have already had Windows on ARM installed and no surprises it wipes he floor of even Surface Pro X2 with the new mobile CPU in it. Once Microsoft start to license out Windows on ARM OS that will definitely be a major step forward in app creation and adoption of developers making and optimizing apps.

  • @rohanmane
    @rohanmane 3 года назад +5

    7:31 imagine if apple gives RGB backlighting just for the sake of it

  • @tzevoon
    @tzevoon 3 года назад

    Can I open my purchased iOS apps directly from the ipa files that I’ve backup?

  • @killingjoker5424
    @killingjoker5424 3 года назад +1

    Please someone do some logic pro benchmarks.. i work with audio and i would love to know how this new M1 chips handle lots of plugins in projects

  • @jacobjarvis1335
    @jacobjarvis1335 3 года назад +11

    I kind of wish I would've waited for the 2020 with the M1, I'm stuck with the I5.

    • @tangaimadambi813
      @tangaimadambi813 3 года назад

      Same boat brother, same boat 😢

    • @mrglance1
      @mrglance1 3 года назад

      Don't you think it's a bit cheap from Apple to release to MacBook Air in the same year?

  • @MrEnterainment
    @MrEnterainment 3 года назад +10

    I like this video a lot, but I was seriously astounded by the editing on those smooth transitions of you both talking about 3/4 into the video! I love the way that there was little to no pauses in between of you both talking and giving your views on the respective machines that you independently reviewing. It's a very good video and the editing is top notch!

  • @gerickjohn2142
    @gerickjohn2142 3 года назад

    I'm curious, can you guys use the Chrome for iPad version and see if it can mitigate the battery issues?

  • @sabrinamerrick1271
    @sabrinamerrick1271 3 года назад

    have a MBP from 2015. Looking at the Air. Is there an optimized version of MS office to run on Air yet?

  • @aerialalexx1918
    @aerialalexx1918 3 года назад +6

    awesome review ! I love my ToucbBar and use it all the time ! editing programmes take huge advantage of it

  • @Justin-us6ck
    @Justin-us6ck 3 года назад +8

    hold on, let me put on my mask for the review.

  • @leahstarz2345
    @leahstarz2345 3 года назад

    I want to get a MacBook Air for school. Should I get the M1 chip one or a refurbished early 2020 model?

  • @dandydipity852
    @dandydipity852 3 года назад

    I have a 2010 macbook pro that I REALLY want to upgrade (I've already switched out the fan system, the battery, & the hard drive 4 times - I think it's time to move onto a new comp). I've been waiting for stupid things like the butterfly keyboard to be worked out. This seems like this is a good time to upgrade to, potentially, the M1 Air. I do have a question.. on my current Macbook I have the 2016 Adobe Design Suit .. which I think was the last disk collection they had before switching to Adobe Cloud. I don't have the funds to constantly pay for Adobe Cloud, so I want to carry over the old suit .. do you think they'll run on the M1?

  • @b.radical
    @b.radical 3 года назад +14

    I know you guys probably do not test for this, but what about DAWs, like Logic? Would these run as good on a Macbook Air?

    • @carlitoxb110
      @carlitoxb110 3 года назад +2

      I use Bias FX on Ableton live 10 and it's not currently working on Bigsur, I recommend patience don't upgrade yet, you might have some compatibility issues

    • @jeffkung5088
      @jeffkung5088 3 года назад +3

      @@carlitoxb110 seems is not ready for prime time yet. But that’s even the case with OS updates. As always in music, wait a year for the kinks to be ironed out.

  • @galantghost
    @galantghost 3 года назад

    Hey! I'm trying to decide which of these Macbooks would be best for me, the Air or Pro. I use photoshop to design things like event flyers, cd covers, social media images etc. And also use a software called Movavi to edit videos. Nothing too fancy, mainly trimming, pasting and adding various video clips and audio files together to create videos that are roughly 45 mins to an hour long. Can the Air handle this easy or should I get the pro?

  • @ianlukerodriguez8383
    @ianlukerodriguez8383 3 года назад

    how is the macbook pro on fan noise. im looking for a laptop with no fan noise or noticeable fan noise

  • @mingweicheese3709
    @mingweicheese3709 3 года назад +3

    I have been waiting and rechecking this review for ages

  • @agraciotti
    @agraciotti 3 года назад +4

    I'm still waiting for the glorious return of the usb port

  • @legitlogic1370
    @legitlogic1370 3 года назад +2

    Are there any changes to the touch bar from the previous generations? I personally really like the touch bar now that I know how to customize it and use it for myself

    • @brydon2648
      @brydon2648 3 года назад

      Me too, I love the touch bar!

  • @AkaPasoquen
    @AkaPasoquen 3 года назад +2

    Would be interested to see how it handles virtualization workloads.

  • @adiib
    @adiib 3 года назад +9

    Is it weird that you binge watch almost all reviews even after our MBP is being shipped?

  • @rodri035
    @rodri035 3 года назад +7

    I am an apple user and will get one if these new macs eventually. However, I wouldn't consider android apps running in a chromebook as rough. I have the Lenovo duet and run android apps just fine. In fact I even run hbo go android app in full screen like it is native, no problem at all.

  • @larose22
    @larose22 3 года назад +1

    Is having the 8 core GPU or having 16gb of unified memory more beneficial in the long run when considering the MacBook Air?

  • @RococoQira
    @RococoQira 3 года назад +1

    So I don't get it, does M1 has touch bar or it doesnt? On apple store images it shows like it has it, but here where you show how you use it, it doesnt.... I was watching x2 speed, maybe I missed smthing..

  • @jasperfredrickson4420
    @jasperfredrickson4420 3 года назад +12

    I want a buddy cop show featuring Nilay and Dieter. Make it happen.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak 3 года назад +334

    Mac is really making a difference

    • @musiccer7446
      @musiccer7446 3 года назад +31

      @Ricky Lafleur good argument, you convinced me.

    • @elithompson4167
      @elithompson4167 3 года назад +2

      @Ricky Lafleur Explain

    • @subh_roy
      @subh_roy 3 года назад +1

      @@elithompson4167 actually apple laptops are now become mobile phones

    • @rohithmekala2608
      @rohithmekala2608 3 года назад +4

      @@subh_roy not really Apple said u can boot Windows ARM but it’s up Microsoft to support it so yeah

    • @rohithmekala2608
      @rohithmekala2608 3 года назад +1

      @@subh_roy also ur phone can’t run any desktop class apps but this Mac can