The Most CONTROVERSIAL Match Point Ever | Draper vs Auger-Aliassime Cincinnati 2024
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Felix handled himself incredibly well considering how outrageous that call is
There is no point in him trying to teach incompetent umpires, that umpire guy look like he eats hot dogs at baseball games. His vision is supposed to be the best because of the proximity to play, stupid umpire
tbh I watched that shot 30 times and I still don't know if the ref was right or not.
I don't get it. Felix was 25 feet away and saw that Draper hit the ball with bottom of racket, bounced on his side, and went over on Felix's side. Point Felix. Umpire was 7 feet and had the best view and got it wrong. WOW!!!!!
@@nicoladc89 he was wrong 200%
@@nicoladc89 if the volley was right, the ball would not bounce that high
Felix got a new fan now. Dealing like that with such a frustrating situation, in such a nervous match and environment… hats off! Super class and well articulated. He made sure everybody saw how f…d up this call whilst being a gentleman. I’m a very chill guy and would be cursing everyone in a moment like that 😂
You probably don't know him that well because he's always been very well articulated and classy. This comes to me as no big surprise. I am mostly proud of him tonight for getting his point across in order to try and be treated fairly in that situation. It didn't work for him, but he did everything he could.
@@benoitrancourt1378 You’re right, I’ve been following tennis as a whole (not only the top 5 players) for a few months now. Getting to know their personalities and stuff… Felix definitely was on my radar, but after today, I can say I became a fan.
Good to know he’s always class!
Draper or any player that wants my respect, should have conceded the point, not offered to replay it.
@@benoitrancourt1378he should have been more selfish and not so nice today. Cuz he had every right to be. Draper should have admit it. Cuz he knew too
@@yanquir Yeah but what more could he have done ? Spend the rest of the night on the court and even sleep there, waiting for anybody to concede that he's right ? At some point, arguing was pointless since everything had been said.
In just a few weeks Greg Allenworth has been involved in many controversies:
(1) Default on Shapovalov for reacting to a fan cursing him.
(2) He did not call a ball that was 30 cm out in Taylor Fritz' game.
(3) Now he messes up again in Aliassime x Draper.
This man should be fired. Simple as that.
Man not men. There's only one of him.
The fritz match when he said "I also thought it was out, but i can't call it" is literally the stupidest thing i've ever heard from an umpire!
@@Sir3garIt does make me wonder what's the point of an umpire if they can't overrule a line call...why are they there then with Hawkeye?
@@Sir3garexactly! No idea why he's saying he can't call it. Umpires can and have overruled line judges before.
@@pureb7235 I wrote on my cell Phone. And the software does that.
Draper knew.
You can tell, because the first thing he does when the ball is dead is look at the umpire. Draper doesn't immediately celebrate his win as you would if you hit a clean shot. Nope. He immediately looks to the umpire instead, to see which way he calls the point. Draper KNEW there was an issue with his hit.
And as soon as the umpire mentions 'ruling'--but BEFORE he clarifies the ruling is about a 'fair shot', Draper looks behind himself to where he hit the shot. Again, it's because he knew there was an issue. How could he not know, he's a pro tennis player who's hit a million shots & knows how a shank into the ground feels & reacts. I mean, FAA back at his own baseline was able to make the correct call, lol.
For many tennis fans, Draper will go down in our esteem despite having won. And FAA will go up in our esteem despite having lost. Because tennis is about more than shots, it's also about sportsmanship & how you conduct yourself.
Couldnt agree more…
He wasn't sure as he said , so he looked at umpire for decision
I was going to say exactly the same thing... Verbatim! 😂
@1petrofski He wouldn't repeatedly say I'll play a replay because he knew it was an illegal shot. He let the ump make a decision instead of owning it!
@@1petrofski There's no way on earth he wasn't sure. He certainly CLAIMED he wasn't sure, because he realized he was about to look like a POS every time the footage is replayed... but he knew.
Sportsmanship isn't looking to the umpire for a call. Sportsmanship is taking responsibility for calling shots on your side of the net. He knew he shanked it into the ground, he should've conceded the point to FAA.
Felix, you handled yourself beautifully. Very mature, I'm seriously impressed.
yes, such a well behaved crying baby. Grow up.
@renatorfarias Tf are you on about? FAA was in the right and everyone knows. Ended his tournament run bc of a bad call. If anyone needs to grow up it's the guy that's denying reality lmao
@@renatorfarias So you're agreeing with wrong calls being final? Why kind of stupid are you?
@@renatorfarias 🤡 ...you give off gay socialist energy.
I thought he came off as mature as a 5 year old
I Don't understand why we need supervisors if they don't look at the match
@@ПолинаКолупаева-ь2г he cannot be in more than one place at a time. Physics.
But... why dorsnt he have an iPad Pro with a TennisTV subscription to replay the point at 0.25x 😁
Beats me.
I think mainly to confirm the rules in the rulebook.
Like why do the position of sups even exist
They are there to make the decision on points of law, only. Felix was wrong to call the supervisor - their job is not to overrule calls.
@@zeddeka it sounded weird to just call it "a fair shot". That screams it wasn't.
“This is gonna be on Tennis TV bro”
Medvedev would be all over that shit........☺
@@jeffbrunswick5511
He'd still be there arguing
Felix says something similar: "It's going to be everywhere, and it's going to look ridiculous."
💀
Shame on Draper. As a tennis player of 40 years I can tell you that even without looking at the ball leaving the racquet you get a clear feeling of its direction. Zero respect for Draper.No character, no integrity, no honesty. You can bet this is exactly how he conducts himself in his personal and business affairs. His motto is “ if no one saw, take advantage”
Absolutely. What a jerk.
Agree, he knows he didn't volley that over the net, he's a bare faced liar
i don’t get why tennis fans are like this. if i’m in that situation i’m taking the match point, tennis is the only sport where people value sportsmanship over actually doing whatever you can to win. if that’s what i have to do to win then i’ll do it, i wouldn’t look down on my opponent for doing the same thing either.
What's wrong with Jack? His shot clearly in
@@optimise.thailand Yes he did, ball came down, Bounced and hit his frame, perfect point. Draper won.
I like how FAA didn’t let Draper off the hook because he obviously knew. But also wasn’t rude towards him.
I don’t think he did obviously know 😒
Exactly, FAA has class
@@PatMetheny1980 lol!
FAA is a class act…kept his composure a true gentleman…that’s why he’s one of my favorite tennis players 👍🏽💙
He did not obviously knew.
Love how the video becomes pixelated only when they’re showing the point 😂 how nobody checked the most important part of the video before uploading it
Pretty deliberate I would say. That was made to be pixelated in some editing software
What can be possibly wrong with the Draper's shot? It looks totally straightforward...
@@solar75wind The ball hit his racquet first (before bouncing), then bounced on the court on his side, then went to the other side (after possible deflection again from the racquet, not sure about this part)
But I am sure that it was a volley and not a half volley, Jack knew this. And if it's a volley there's no way ball can go high like that. Even an amateur player can say this from feel of racquet, i don't know why anyone is not talking about this (maybe because not many who watch tennis play tennis?)
I replayed it about a dozen times. They clearly know it was a wrong call but are protecting their necks.
look at 1:43 the ball bounce off the ground first
No matter whether the umpire was wrong or not, I’ve a lot of respect for Felix for being so classy and calm in a situation like this.
All the best to him.
@@reliableandrew what? Did you misread?
@@reliableandrew he had every right to do it since it was match point but the fact he clarified multiple times and still accepted shows class
@@sayeksofian
Understood.🌿🎾
@@derekstanyer
Yes, I did on this occasion, so have deleted the comment. Thanks.🌿🎾
Agreed, there are many Divas out there he doesn´t seem to be one whats refreshing.
Any decently skilled player knows that the ball came off the racquet, hit the GROUND, then bounced about 70+ degrees vertical then bounced off the net and over to the other side of the court. Draper claimed he "doesn't know..what'd happened.... He hit the ball.." what a player and person Draper is. Love you Felix!! Good man!!
You mean Draper missed the shot: the ball hit the ground and bounced back on Draper’s racket and said try😅 again?
Aliassime is a bad loser.
Agreed, I am an amateur player and I can easily tell if the ball came up from below or down from a high onto my racket. Draper is a pro. He had to know what happend.
Felix was so good there. Was emphatic about the challenge, did not get out of control, insisted on everyone responding to his question. He did what he could without moving into meltdown mode. I want to know what that chair umpire says now that he's seen the replay. Draper of course, isn't going to watch. I might be wrong, but he doesn't seem like that kind of guy based on his behavior here.
This isn't clear at all. Even in slow motion it looks to me like it might be a legal half volley that came off the frame, and that's exactly what it would have felt like regardless.
This ref is the same one who missed the call in the fritz match. Fire this man!
Yup and he sure gets time for his tan and a haircut. What a nonce
Same one who DQ'd shapovalov as well
심판이 문제가 있네요
Not only fired, he must do the ball boy for next 6 months at least
Ban this ref from the tour. Is he auditioning for a new 'Where's Waldo?' series? Fire this man!
Jack's offer to replay the point if the ball hit the floor (on his side of the court) is also ridiculous because he would have lost the point and there would be no need to replay the point.
Yeah Draper shouldve given Felix the point after Felix was 100% sure it hit the floor; if Felix was wrong then Felix looks terrible but Felix has a decent reputation to where you have to trust him
@@Deerjason absolutely braindead comment
No it’s not. He knows he’s shanked that into the floor. He lacked class
dumbo, he said that if the supervisor tells him(jack) he (the supervisor) saw that the ball bounced illegally on the replay :))) that's not officially binding in the Cinncinati Masters rules :)) ffs :))) and Jack ALSO offered to replay the point immediately and Felix seamed to want no business in replaying the point and just wanted to over turn the initial call and get the point ....
Are you guys stupid or blind?
Maybe you just never played tennis? The shot was perfectly legitimate as shown in the replay.
Jack knew for sure. As a tennis player you know. The way the ball bounced off the racket and floor makes it clear. I would had not shake his hand.
this is right. as a player you always know. this’ll hurt his rep.
You could hear the ball hitting the court on his side. 🤦♂️
No, it hit the ground, bounced up to the racquet and over. Great call!
Whatever happened, the pros know that you play the calls and don't take it out on your opponent.
@@exinmate nonsense.
Nr. 1 you HEAR the ball coming off the racket and THEN hitting the court and go over.
Nr. 2 you can SEE the ball coming STRAIGHT down as it can't bounce from Felix' shot.
Nr. 3 Draper felt something was wrong, that's why he talked about a replay, but didn't concede. His body language screaming: I'm unsure, I'm a liar.
Nr. 4 you CANNOT play a ball like this off your frame. Unless it's very lucky (1 in a million) you hit it frame amd then racket.
Super phony stuff.
Just replay the angle after the strange compression issues at 0.25x.
This was NOT a fair shot!
As a Brit - this was pathetic from Draper and it made him look incredibly desperate.. he wouldn’t have got so defensive if he didn’t know he was wrong.. and then he took the easy way out by not taking any of the responsibility himself and hiding behind the umpires decision. He should’ve taken accountability straight away and given Felix the point. 🤦🏻♂️
100%!
@@djpete2009 Draper could have requested on his own for the point to be played again.
Disagree, it was a volley, the umpire was right, the TV playback showed it.
@@johnnydancer9632 you got defective vision. Trajectory of ball in slow motion shows it will hit the racket first and not the ground. Never watch from old tv.
@@soladesa6032Not only does the replay show it, it's common sense. The only way the ball bounces that high is if it was pushed into the ground first. Draper definitely doesn't get the same result if he got he racquet under the ball
Let's appreciate the gentlemen that Fritz and Auger Aliassime both are, completely robbed, yet very calm.
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Why is the chair umpire so incompetent? He can't even say a full sentence properly. He looks like he just got back from the golf range with his buddies after drinking 6 IPA's each
...but this time there wasn't any robbing being done...watch the clip in slomo, .25 speed,then you'll se it was a fair call...
@@stylianosisaakidis3565are you serious? He clearly shanked it off the ground
FAA was not calm he acted like a little bit ch.
lo draper went from "I'll replay the point" to "I will replay the point if he saw it the other way" real quick. You could see from his reaction when that ball went up from his racket, he knew it bounced
Draper 100% knew. what a wanker
You saw it exactly right!
Exaclty here is someone making sense. His reaction as a pro tennis player who has his 10,000's of balls from every angle explains the verdict of the shot.
That doesn't matter. It's the umpire's job to make the call and the fact that he didn't see a double bounce before Draper hit the volley is the umpire's fault, not Draper's. Whether or not Draper knew it was a double bounce doesn't change anything, it's not for him to call for a replay of the point
Yeah, Draper's body language was a read flag. Imagine, they don't realize that we'll figure this out and cheat their way through.
Ouch.
With so much advancement in the technology, it's ridiculous to have these debates. It's so easy to have the challenge system in situations like this. Even if the umpire is sure, if the player feels otherwise, it would have taken less time to just have a replay and decide.
In cricket, we do have DRS to resolve this.
Seeing instances like this time and again now and this affects players mentally more than just a win or a loss.
Now that you bring up cricket, do you know the review system was first started in cricket (LBW) and then spread to other sports like tennis? It's very interesting as a cricket and tennis fan to know this fact
Tennis does have reviews but ig it depends on the tournament?
Would say the equivalent to this in cricket is when a catch is analysed to see if its grounded or not rather than DRS. Third umpires still make the wrong call often because it's hard to pick up when a ball bounced or not.
Both players were willing to replay the point. The easy call would have been a replay.
Draper is a cheat. The umpire is incompetent. Felix remained a gentleman. Period.
Are you in a special education program? Tell me what the first thing that came out of Draper's mouth was. Shut up for once. Period.
Eh?
How did you come to that conclusion?
It happened so fast - the umpire and Draper were both being honest in saying that they’re not sure. Felix was further away than both of them and seems to think he knows for definite.
It’s just an unfortunate situation. Replay the point might have been a reasonable solution, but I’m not sure that option was available within the rules.
@@andrewmay1299 That’s your opinion but many (including many players), who commented on the controversy right after the incident disagree. The suggestion to replay the point is ridiculous. Felix won the point. There’s no replay on that. Draper had the opportunity to show integrity but he failed. I used to like him but now I can’t see him play without being reminded that had the chance but did not measure up. Good day.
Jack definitely knew. The fact that he says he’d replay it shows me he knew. He should be willing to give the point to Felix not replay the point!
He’s talking about a replay footage, not replaying the point.
Draper absolutely knew. I was at the match. I was a collegiate tennis player. You know how that feels as a player… Draper is a true bullshitter
Jack talked abt replaying the point! And like what Auger said, Jack has played long enough of tennis to be able to have a sense of doubt of whether that was a clean volley. While Jack cannot be 100% sure because he indeed wasn't looking at the ball at the time of contact, but he's 100% sure that shot was opened to possibility of a fault and could be anybody's point. It's unfortunate there's no instant replay of the shot to review the umpire's call. @@jonathanchen1026
1:10 Jack said he was looking at Felix at least twice but he didn't. At best, he was looking at the floor if not the ball. He definitely lied here so there's a very good chance he also lied that he did not know that it hit the floor. I thought he was a fair guy but from now on, I can't root for him no matter what.
Absolutely sure he definitely knew. Forget about what he says. Even an amateur player would know from the feel of the racquet that it hit the ground on his side after hitting the racquet. This is the easiest thing to notice for any tennis player. Volley feels completely different from ball bouncing just before (half volley).
Absolutely shameful from Draper
Jack deserves an Oscar…
"One flew over the tennis net"?😅
and you deserve to wear glasses.
Yes man you are a blind
I don’t think it was clear so we are all of us just internet denizens doing what we do, speaking to our own biases. The shot looked like it came up off the frame to me, but it’s unclear in the video and I don’t think Draper knew, genuinely. Tough break for FAA but I don’t see how he could’ve seen it clearly through the net either. I honestly think it shanked off his bottom frame and up to the net cord, improbable as it seems, and that’s awful luck for Felix, who handled himself with nothing but class it should be said.
@@carlkligerman1981 Its very hard to see. Iam not 100% more like 70-30
man... I wouldn't normally say something like this but that umpire needs to go. This keeps happening with him.
couldn't see over his own rolls
The call looks correct, half volley off the edge will look like that. If that's the case then he's brave enough to stand up to player pressure and make the right call.
Very tough call though. It did look to me like the ball shanked off the top edge of the bottom of Jack’s frame and over the net, making it a very improbable but lucky shot. For an umpire sitting right above it it would’ve been hard to see. Even the video was unclear…
@@NamesAreRandom What are you talking about it is not a matter of looking correct, in the replay you very clearly see the ball hit the ground after it hits the racket.
He's consistently in these controversial videos.
Felix is real man who knows how to earn the respect. You got mine.
Great player Felix. Major winner 🏆 eventually we hope 🙏
Draper knew exactly. Look how he was about to walk backwards after he hit the shot. He knew it was FAA's point.
That’s 100% it. What tennis player gives up after a volley?
Because he thought it was going in the net
Draper we immediately looking at the chairman after the point, means he was aware he could lose that point.
I don't understand the problem , can someone explain what happened that was wrong?
There is nothing wrong with the ball hitting the ground.
That's a half volley.
It is allowed to bounce once.
@@Ghzrkls The ball hits the ground after hitting his racquet
Wow, never seen such bad umpiring. There should be a way to see the replay. Love how Felix dealt with it. He was firm and made sure the umpire will be held accountable for this horrendous call
Sorry, can you explain the umpire's error? So far I cannot see any problem but maybe I am wrong?
@@solar75windDraper shanked the ball into the court then bounced up over the net. Umpire missed it.
@@lbjeffrieslol let’s just let him have that cuz it looked kewel
draper compliant too
@@lbjeffries Since you might be using a Macintosh 128K or Windows 1.0, I will forgive your blindness and mindlessness.
The umpire made the correct call; the ball hit the ground first then off Drapers' racquet into the other side of the net.
Grow some brains and invest in honesty.
Draper knew. If you're a tennis player you know. If you know anything about physics, you know. If you're a blind chair ref, you apparently don't.
@@Funkytrip73 when it's as close as it was you can't always tell so this comment makes no sense at all
@@bengray5013 you never played tennis then. You know by the spin of the ball if it's fault or not.
He clearly knew, he even tried a flick of the wrist. Not to mention his body langage, he knew he hit the ground.
But, to be fair, it was umpire fault. not his. i should have done the same.
@@kamekazu the ball bounced with no spin on it, it literally bounced lightly off his frame. If anyone here hasn't played tennis it's definitely you.
@@bengray5013 it makes sense. You obv never played tennis or any sport it seems
If you racket goes down because you hit the ball with the inside of the frame or if you hit it with the outer frame it's a big very noticeable difference that everyone can feel. He knew this would be match and decided to play naive
Draper almost went for a second shot, knowing already it was a dead ball. 😂
The most annoying thing is that he kept repeating he doesn't have any prob to replay the point, while it was so f.. obvious that he did!
Your right ✅️ you can see him 4 a split second thinking about hitting it again 😅.Well spotted ps . I only saw the replay once , also I no little about tennis its so obvious! Sac the umpire ! Also punishment for draper he knows dam well what just happened. Come clean draper!
Class act, Felix. You were completely ripped off - and I have no doubt that Draper knew it - but you handled it like a gentleman. I can name 50 players who wouldn't have. Makes me proud to be Canadian.
Still lost 🇬🇧
@@TH4MBRM that aint the point, Red Coat
C'mon Jack where is the fairplay? You must have felt it like Felix explained. You have to call the replay.
@@janoelfke1004 why would he feel it like Felix claimed? When it's that close it's not always easy to tell
He did call the replay.. he was the first to do it. Did you not watch it. He even said IF THIS GUY HERE SAYS ON TV HE SAW THIS THEN WE CONTINUE. What more can he do. We only know due to 25x slo mo replays and in hindsight. He didn't. This is entirely the umpires fault not Jack's. If he's also meant to make all the calls then why doesn't he also get the umpires wages?
What replay?!?! He LOST the point !!!!
He should have conceded the point, not called a replay. If he had admitted it was a double bounce the point would have been awarded to Felix.
@@David-i8i he said he didn't know if it was a fault or not, which btw is not that unusual with a shot that close to the ground and at pace. There would be no need to conceded if he wasn't 100% sure it was a fault, so offering a replay is absolutely fine, however it's ultimately the umpires call. Fact is you're making a lot of claims based on your uneducated opinion.
Draper's bad acting is also a dead giveaway that he knew
Bad acting?
You watch many fast n furious movies maybe?
Naa, what bad acting, he clearly looks surprised...he is clearly looking at his opponent.
Draper's initial reaction is a very genuine looking smile. If he was faking that, give the man an Oscar immediately.
I play college-level tennis several hours a week and have for 30 years. You know when you hit a ball into the ground (or trap it in this case). You can hear it - you can feel it - but you can't see it because nobody watches the ball into exact contact. But it is painfully, painfully, painfully obvious when the ball shanks up at such a trajectory. There is no other way to get that to happen without severely opening the face of the racket or hitting the top of the frame. All the pro players have 100x more experience than me - all the players know this. The officials should be trained on this but they are not. Kudos to Felix for the cool head. I like Jack but he wasn't looking at Felix while volleying (that's ridiculous) and I think he'll look back with regret on this.
@@amazotron3471 the ref probably doesn’t even play tennis to know for the ball to bounce like that and have the face of the racquet towards the net without a backspin type swing makes no sense. It defies the laws of physics
@@DP-eo5xdlooks like he's champion at beer pong
100% agree
Félix was very very very fair
À good and very respectful behaviour, congratulation to him.
This is disgusting!!
Draper knew he should have lost the point and he is trying to act innocent and or dumb! He should have conceded the point.
This umpire needs his job seriously threatened so he doesn’t make these decisions casually!
Felix what a gentleman! 👏🏻
@@danielmilford-robertson9853 why would he concede the point when it's likely he won the point with a valid shot. It's nearly impossible to see in the replay whether the ball hit the ground after the frame as the ball is blurred and there's no shadow.
@@bengray5013check the other replay then
@@leonidkostitsyn6525 already have, it’s still not obvious either way.
@@bengray5013If you play tennis, you would know. As a pro, you know. You know when you hit the ball out by 3 inches. You know when you hit the ball into the ground. He's a prick and bad sport.
You must be legally blind. No much difference btw yourself and the umpire, or maybe both of yall are just racist @bengray5013
That Chair Umpire is the biggest troll in the ATP!
KFC/Pizza Hut model 😝
Draper seems self aware that he did wrong here. I just became a BIG fan of Auger-Aliassime for his character and cool head.
He 100% knows the shot was bad but he gets caught in the lie.
All Draper had to do was say, “ok. your point.”
He likely still wins the match, as it would have been deuce on his serve.
And even if he went on to lose, then he still would have won, because then social media would have said, “look at the amazing sportsmanship! Umpire gave him the match but he wanted to be fair and kept playing.”
And if replay had shown Felix to be wrong and Draper gone on to lose, his image would look even better.
He chose… poorly.
he didn't want to risk losing the money and ranking points. He may lose some future sponsorships as his image is tarnished.
@@chrleschan8790 now he’s lost respect which you can’t buy. While Felix has gained fans.
I don't think sponsors look into tjese kind of details, but he certainly lost credibility in the locker room.
Absolutely! He had the momentum and was on a sure victory. I was rooting for him. And he is a great player but alas failed the integrity test here.
getting taken for a ride by your rivals and fellow competitors isn't good. that is why you dont silver platter free points.
its that the point RIGHTFULLY belongs to his opponent here, and codes of honor still exist. Draper suckered a free point out of Felix.
There is absolutely no way Draper did not know that the ball bounced on his side of the court after he hit it. As tennis players, you just know these things. Him saying he was looking at Felix doesn’t matter. You know, even just be feel and the sound, that the ball bounced on his side before it went over the net. 100%…no way possible he didn’t know that was Felix’s point!
It was a half volley winner‼ End of the story‼
@@quentincrisp6933 Sir, you are right - people get carried away with the emotionality. Yes, the half volley was at the bottom of the strings and it was a short hop bounce which is unusual, but it's as you say and Felix could not have really known what happened without a doubt, it was too fast for naked eye to know.
@@quentincrisp6933 Obviously you didn’t see the replay, which clearly showed the ball hitting the court on Draper’s side after he made contact with the ball. There’s no disputing that, so it SHOULD have been Felix’s point - end of story (…and Draper knew it). The umpire screwed up (again), and Felix showed a ton of class by handling it the way he did. Another rule change coming. That play should have been reviewable to avoid this mistake again. 😉
Of course
@@quentincrisp6933 please stop embarrassing yourself and watch this:
ruclips.net/video/j4LoBlxxERU/видео.html
Yep, FAA was right, the umpire now looks ridiculous.
Not true. The umpire turned out to be 100% correct.
@@solar75windwrong, you dumb
The right call was made. Your thinking is why the world is a huge mess, depending on lies than honesty.
The ball hit Draper's racquet then it hit the floor. It equals hitting a volley on your own side of the court.
Is it really that hard to understand?
Y'all need some glasses
@@solar75wind 1:07 👀👀👀
Completely incompetent umpire. Draper saying he didn’t know it hit the ground is a lie. Terrible sportsmanship.
Draper wasn't looking at the ground, you can see on the replay he just stuck his racket out while looking at Felix. I believe him.
1:13 Draper’s facial expression here says it all. He knew at that moment he’d shanked it into the ground and lost the point. What a load of nonsense that he claims he was looking at Felix and didn’t know. These guys have supreme levels of feel. They know. Also, ball has topspin on the way to the net. Classic sign of a not up or ball into ground first shot.
What a class act Felix is, tho.
It isn't about playing the point again Jack, it's Felix point because it bounced into the ground off your frame!
Exactly. Jack knew what he did.
I watched this, and thought that Draper was saying he is “willing to replay the point” because the ball hit the net on match point. Not because he thinks he might have bounced it with his racket.
@@ffffffffffffff43 Draper would have known 100 percent by the way he hit it that it wasn’t a clean shot
@@derekstanyer I was also inclined to say that, but being a tennis player, I know how many many times I have missed obvious calls because my focus was somewhere else entirely. That’s why I’m undecided on if Draper knew
@@ffffffffffffff43 Nah, he's a pro player. He knew the ball hit his frame and saw the ball spin that wasn't correct. He just decided to be a coward.
Jack Draper knew exactly what happened. If you want the point, just stay quiet. Don't act innocent, Jack. The act is quite pitiful.
Exactly -
After Draper said he was ok in replaying the point, I figured that he knew the ball hit the court on his side before crossing the net -
The sportsmanship thing to do would have been to say to the chair ref that it wasn't good
what a cheater.
What happened, the ball bounced once from Felix’s return and then hit shacks racket and bounced onto the net and onto Felix’s side
@haydenvong8775 the ball it Draper's racket, then hit the ground, then went over the net. Quite evident on the slow mo replay.
Exactly, he should have instantly said replay the point to he chairman.
I recommend everyone play this video in 0.25 speed. The ball clearly hit the ground first, then hit Draper’s racket, and then it went over the net. It never hit the ground again. It’s a fair shot.
Felix was right. It is obvious that the ball first hit the racket and then the floor. Great sportsmanship from him. Bravo Felix to keep your calm and accept the wrongful decision. Great to see he is back on the top of his game. I hope the ATP will compensate the loss of the prize money and that he will give the 80000 dollars he could have got to a sport charity in Cincinnati.
Sucks for Felix really unfair 😕
Not true. Draper made a valid shot. Watch carefully.
@@solar75winddude.
@@solar75windwatch a different video of it this one is pixelated it goes off the frame of drapers racquet and right off the ground
@@cd2_ No, you are wrong. It hit the frame first, then string, then went over the net. Watch again carefully.
@@solar75wind watch the other video someone posted where the announcers are talking and slow it down , you can see it bounces straight off the ground lol
Draper knows what happened! He even makes a slight jerk with his racket subconsciously trying to correct the mis -hit.
Exactly
What's illegal about his hit? The ball only hits the ground once, it's fair right?
@@MarcoK6969 the ball hit the frame of the racket and then the floor. If you knew tennis physics you would know that’s the only explanation how the ball went up like this.
Felix pointed that out to Jack as well.
@@MarcoK6969 the ball can't hit your side of the court after you touch it, that's a point for your opponent.
@@MrMartin48705 why FAA pretending like this 1 point was the end all and be all of him losing.
Draper looked guilty and wanted to come out looking good. He looked very insecure and talked too much even when no one was talking to him. He protested regarding his innocence too much when it was clear that he knew what happened. Aliassime, what can I say, is such a nice man. Proud to have him represent Canada!
Felix should be a candidate for this year's Nobel Peace Award after listening to Jack Draper lying repeatedly. I've been playing tennis for 10+ years recreationally and anyone knows that ball would have a totally different path if it was a clean volley. Jack Draper is a total POS and the umpire should be ashamed of not knowing this after sitting for all his life in the chair. Absolutely pathetic stuff here!!!
"total POS"? Exaggerate much?
It wasn't a clean volley. Frame-strikes aren't what I'd call clean. But then, it wasn't a volley at all. It was a ground-stroke. Not a clean one. But perfectly legal.
@@aahyes9068 unless you're playing tennis at a very beginner level for fun, the shot shown is not a legal shot, it hits his racket and then hits the ground on his side of the court.
of the rim .. and you're a fool... the end
@@servethesongs the replay literally shows it go off the rim of his racket and directly into the ground, you can watch it or not, I really don't care, but video is not somehow subjective.
This is the worst thing I've ever seen. Today we have cameras, we can see everything on replay. The Supervoiser said he has seen the ball was at first on the floor, but it only counts what the referee has seen in real. Draper knew than at this point, that he has lost the point, but he wanted a replay. This is scandalous. He should give Felix the point, because he made a mistake. Biggest unfair in professional tennis ever. Draper should shame on it.
@@xketjowx supervisor didn't say that
He asked him what he saw and he wouldn't answer. That is not what happened at all. Draper clearly says if this guy says he saw the replay and it was a bad call then we carry on. What more can he do? They pay umpires and supervisors so they don't have to focus 100% on playing while also having to call points. Draper doesn't have 25x slo mo replays to look at a few times does he, that's he said IF THIS GUY SAYS HE HAS SEEN IT then we continue. What more can he possibly do. He was the first person to even ask for the replay.
@@Darrenski Draper had to give the point to Aliassime. Stop. There is nothing else to say. Very bad behaviour.
if at least Draper had given him a replay! but not even that! low class!!!
@@aiLoveE it's not Drapers decision, but he did offer a replay.
Also I don't get why Draper is suggesting a replay. If the ball hit the ground, it's Felix's point!
It hit the ground BEFORE it hit Draper's racket. Watch the slow-mo frame-by-frame starting at 1:09
the ball is allowed to hit the ground once, I cant understand why the whole video is about
@@potzysk2
I'll say it again, you are blind -
You could actually get hired as a chair umpire
@@GdF420 Pause the video at 1:09. Go frame-by-frame (if you know how to do that, using the . key). Ball hits the ground several inches in front of the racket, bounces into the racket, then goes up and over the net.
Exactly.
Jack saying that if he saw the replay and it was the wrong call, he would replay the point????
NO, YOU LOST THE POINT!! THERE'S NO REPLAY ANYTHING!!!
Jack: If he tells me it hit the ground I'd replay the point.... LOLLLLLLLLL
Haha. Yes. Very noble of him
You can literally hear the ball dribbling on the ground
What's your point? If all jack cared about was winning, the best thing for him to do was to shut up as to go under the radar and hope the Umpire wouldn't change his call. The fact that right off the bat Jack offers to replay the point, makes me think he cared more about fair play than winning.
@@Tuzzz94 bro there was no reason for replaying the point it was deuce LMAO why would the point be done again ? if draper alrdy lost that
at this point you are no different from that ump.
Only a brand new tennis player would not be able to tell that the ball got shanked right into the ground. We need umpires who have actually played tennis before that can understand how the ball moves. Furthermore Jack obviously knew it wasn't a legit shot. Props to Felix he handled the situation about the best that anyone could have.
100% Draper knew deep down that it bounced off the racket and into the ground. And even if he didnt see it, he felt it. But I’m glad he passed the responsibility onto the umpire. This way, the issue of replays will be brought up.
Why have so many cameras if you’re not seeing what we are seeing? Clowns
@@bartholomewlyons We can't blame on draper but only on the umpire, should be able to watch the point again and decide. In slow motion the ball hit the frame first then the floor first then the frame again, this is what makes confusing for the player, at this speed and the raquet that close to the floor the player can't be 100% sure, people are saying bs thinking that he knows
The player feels it, and the umpire should be able to tell by the sound, if he has any experience playing himself. Probably this will lead to video review.
Draper definitely knew. A tennis player knows how a ball feels when it hits your racket. The way the ball got over the net is only possible if you get the racket underneath the ball with smooth touch. In the replay you see the ball hit the frame of the racket. Even kids can tell if a ball hits the frame, let alone an ATP pro player. Bad sportmanship of Draper, and this umpire should not be assigned to matches for a while.
Respect for Felix and terrible umpire.... Make sure the umpire will be held accountable for this horrendous call!
Why was the call horrendous? I don't see anything wrong with it.
Yaeh you must be blind. The ball never bounces on the court after hitting drapers racquet.
"I was looking at him" is not an excuse and Draper knows it. Anyone who plays tennis would know the feeling of shanking a ball off the bottom rim. How did he possibly think that the ball somehow flew upwards and over the net miraculously? He didn't. Shame on Draper. Terrible sportsmanship.
Outstanding shot by draper. Game over.
Draper knew and didn't say anything, that kinda sucks
He'll forever be known as a cheat now.
'I was looking at him'.
Bs.
He knows it. Even Worse look by saying i don't know
sketchy answer by Jack here for sure
If he had doubts he should have replayed . If it’s in one motion it counts . Not being a clean hit doesn't make it a double hit .
Yeah even for an amateur player. Very obvious it hit the court before bouncing off the net
Draper made the mistake of not immediately owning up to it, and couldn’t then backtrack without looking sneaky. No wonder he was desperate for the footage to resolve all problems at once. Alas.
Nah, I believe that he truly didn’t know/see it. He handled the situation maturely and even said he would replay the point.
@@caseygreyson4178 Watch the replay and watch Draper's face. As soon as he hit it he knew - closed his eyes in disappointment and then looked at the umpire for a call. No doubt he knew.
@@petergervais416 yes, draper knows, a pro player definitely know, he can feel the racquet feedback that the ball hit the racquet frame first. Look at the replay, draper racquet recoiled backward as the ball hit the frame.
@@caseygreyson4178How can you think he “did not truly see it”? It Is fascinating how people can develop opinions based on assumptions disconnected from facts…
Yes, he saw it. Unsportsmanlike behavior in a nice guise.
Jack saying he was looking at Felix is insane 😂 Never once in my life I saw a tennis player hit a ball solely looking at his opponent. Specially on match point
@@RogerThatTennis then you've never watched tennis
@@bengray5013 try doing that big boy
@@RogerThatTennis try learning to write a comprehensive sentence.
Commentator " I completely believe that Jack say if he got or not" and ladies and gentlemen is how they treat black people mirco aggressions ! Remember Nadals uncle too! but even when the video proofs it, it doesn't even matter 😅😮
@187DANMAN spoken like a true racist
I’m 57 and played since I was 15. ANY decent player knows!! Draper is full of it.. He should have offered to replay. I would NOT want to win any match like this
He did offer the replay, half heartedly, but only after Felix insisted to protest the call. He should have conceded the point really.
@@al1976-v7m i am not defending anyone but even you offer to replay a point it does not matter the last word is from the umpire in this case
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This clown was the same umpire during that Fritz match where the hawkeye was lagged.
Felix is such a classy guy
Too bad his run ended this way
Felix's communication was awesome, umpire was busy stuffing potato chips instead of watching the match
Why didn't he curse? Should've gave it to the ump
Allensworth is a RN American from Ohio. He is horrible.
@@JeffLynnesELO2025Tournever trust the fat guy
Exactly why is he like this. so big.
@@JeffLynnesELO2025Tour RN?
This is disgusting what they did to Felix. Draper is full of shit and this umpire is incompetent and useless.
Never been a Felix fan but after seeing this shit I might have to root for him more now
tha ball hit drapers racket and bounced on his side of the court before crossing the net, this makes it Felix's point. Absolutely horrendous call.
My thoughts exactly
I hope you won't be the only one, after that steal, he deserve another chance
Greg Allensworth is the worst umpire (ATP) Felix has shown once again, he is one of the classiest player on tour. Jack Draper is an hypoctite!
Lol! Why are there so many people here defending the umpire and Jack??? At 1:08 it's pretty clear that the ball hits Jack's racquet and _THEN_ hits the ground on Jack's side of the court before going over the net! Some of the comments on this video are making me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
It still looks like it hits the ground first then the racquet to me. I'm just as confused that people can see it differently 😅
@@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviourwatch it again. I saw it the same way you did in the beginning. but the more i watch it the more i think it hit the racket first
The ball hits frame of racquet then hits ground then hits strings of racquet then goes over the net.
Too many people enjoy going against the grain. No one with an access to RUclips, and a good pair of eyes (glasses), ability to judge body language, can be confused by what happened here. Draper knew he missed the ball the moment he hit it. His instinctive reaction is that of being resigned and angry. Notice that at no point is he defending this as his point. He wants to "replay" it. That seems to ease his guilty conscience.
Draper's unsportsmanlike attitude!, he knew perfectly well that the ball bounced from his raquet to his side of the court, brfore crossing the net. He should have given the point, not offered to repeat it!
Come on. Jack 100% knew that was a missing shank. The contact feeling was absolutely different from normal contact. He of course knew the whole story
wait a minute. this is which year? 1850 ? no tv then , no replays available right ? RIGHT ? what is happening here. they don't have a ... checks notes.. television ? a computer ? you know one of those things that you can ACTUALLY see a replay instead of wasting time. absolutely disgraceful
They are afraid.
@@DonOrrell of what ? yt tears?
It was being filmed, just asked the TV guys !
I'm a badminton fan and it's the same thing with competitive badminton, once an umpire makes a call like this, it can't be corrected, not sure why the federations don't invest some money into creating a VAR system
"Felix can I say something, I was looking at YOU", "It doesn't matter where you were looking"🤣
@@Sean-xs1zp well to does actually, he was looking forward, not at the ball on contact (because it's nearly impossible to watch the ball onto the strings, scientifically proven btw)
@@bengray5013 It makes no difference where he was looking. He could have been looking at the moon. Any tennis player would know that shot was not legal.
@@David-i8i wow, there's so many confident people like you in this comment section that are completely clueless 😂
@@bengray50131:10
@@mendrikaJ that's a time stamp, well done. It doesn't prove the ball hit the court after the frame.
Greg Allensworth taking incompetency to a whole new level...
He is the worst.
Don't know who this Felix person is. But I am amazed by his sterness yet control he had during this exchange. All players should learn how to push back like Felix. Wow. True class
FAA awesome as always. A true gentleman/ sportsman. In case he was wrong, he also gave respect to the umpire. And if that shot was indeed legit, then FAA ALSO DID WELL TO CONCEDE TO THE UMPIRE’s decision
The saddest part is that FAA was exactly right. He was cheated by umpire, supervisor, and Jack. He was classy but he also was firm. What is the point of video replays if the supervisor can’t even use them?
I took a video that was shown on ESPN and it plays it in ultra slow motion. The ball hits the bottom of the racket and is deflected towards the floor, it bounces and comes back up and bounces back off the racket and goes over the other court. The strangest thing is that the video never plays in another slow motion on ESPN, and they have that technology. Why they didn't show the video in slow motion?. We already know why! ESPN cannot question a referee's decision (ATP)
Yes, I think this is exactly what happened. If you take the video of the highlights, set the playback to 0.25, and play/pause manually frame by frame, you can see the ball hits the racket, which deflects the ball down, the racket gets pushed back by the impact, and then as the ball bounces back up of the ground, Draper makes contact with ball lifting it up and over the net
Exactly, and how the f can people claim otherwise ? I mean it's as clear as rainwater😂
You don't need any slow motion. The ball hitting the bottom of the racket and having that trajectory it had to hit the ground. There is no way the ball can rise that steep otherwise.
Also hard to believe Draper didn't realize but I do believe the sincerity of his reaction here.
@@mendrikaJ it's not clear at all, it actually looks like the ball contacted the frame and surface at the same time which is why Draper couldn't tell.
@@markvanderwerf8592 nope, it had no spin on it and hit the frame, it's completely normal reaction of the ball to do what it did, lift up with no spin
Compression artifacts at the exact moment we could have seen what happened, the hell is this
I see it just fine?
Pretty bad on Tennis TV OR the venue's part... but I feel like I can still tell the ball hit the ground AFTER making contact with Jack's racquet.
@@EhCloserLook Then you need to see an ophthalmologist.
I saw it on TV and the replay was fine - It very clearly hit the ground after hitting his racket. Instant replay needs to be a thing right now.
@@markuse3472 is that long word someone you see after saying an accurate statement? Because if so, then I agree.
Draper knew it was a bad shot. He looks down as it happens because he knows what occurred. Watch his eyes in slo-mo.
Then he looks to the ref instead of automatically celebrating like all players do upon winning legitimately.
So much for good sportsmanship. And qualified judging.
Felix correctly predicting the future at 1:02
This umpire is stupid... Felix was so good... Gave ample chances to him to rectify... But he was just too stupid. That hit the floor for sure.
its super clear that draper hit it into the court from the replay
'I was looking at him' is a wild statement considering you absolutely focus 100% on the ball until it leaves your racket.
No one would ever look at their opponent in the very moment they hit the ball lol
Not true some players watch the ball onto the strings and then look towards where they want to put it .
Why are they saying to replay the point? Jack should have just gave the point to Felix.
Jack wanted to see the TV replay of the shot, not replay the point
And if a tv replay confirmed it was point to FAA, as he made clear and was the first to ask for it, then draper would have done that as he said. What else can he do?
Felix is the ultimate gentleman and has amazing restraint
Amazingly composed behavior from Felix, horrible from the referee. Hard to believe that Draper had not realized what happened
01:46 says it all. It´s exactly the same psychological effect in football. If a player NEW that he had done something wrong and against the rules, the player IMMEDIATELY takes a look to the referee in order to see, whether or not he got "caught".
He then even underpins himself being insecure when he asked the referee to decide whether to replay the point or not.
This is outrageous!!!
Sorry Jack. But you KNEW what you did but you took advantage of the missjudgement of the referee in order to win the match in an unfair manner. You can do better than that!
Shout out to Felix. He knew what was going on but he kept being calm and polite. A true sportsman! All the best Felix!
Guys been playing tennis for over 20 years and doesn’t know if his volley hit the ground first 😅. Most bullshit thing I’ve ever heard. Trust me as a former college player you are absolutely aware if this happens. No excuses
Of course JD knew the ball bounced on the floor; otherwise, it wouldn't have traveled at such an angle. Just look at his body language-he's fully aware of it. As many have rightly pointed out in the comments, if the ball did bounce, he'd lose the point. Kudos to FAA for keeping his composure and avoiding a confrontation with JD.
Jack showed horrible sportsmanship “I didn’t see it” Absolute BS. What a disgusting person Draper is, yeah ref made the wrong call and Draper could’ve overturned it
Draper: Can I say something? I was looking at you!
*Replay showing Draper following the ball with his head*
Draper knew. he should have given FAA the point.
clearly shows draper hitting the ball into the ground and bouncing back up lol. it's 2024, tennis should have replay like other sports - basketball, baseball, soccer, football. are you serious? ATP should be ashamed on such a big point. Shame on you ATP !!!!!!
perché non può rimbalzare a terra??? ma tu le conosci le regole???esiste una cosa che si chiama Demi-volee...ma forse non sai nemmeno cos' è....
@@Andrea-li3xp you clearly don't know the r rules. if he touches the ball and it bounces on his side, he loses, do you even play tennis? do you even understand my statement? learn to comprehend english
@@KC-gr7xz Tu non hai scritto rimbalzato sulla propria metà campo.Le regole le so meglio di te,ho giocato 20 anni a tennis.
@@Andrea-li3xp "hitting the ball into the ground and bouncing back up" means its on his side. Learn ENGLISH. I played tennis in college and I teach tennis. 😆 you look so stupid
@@Andrea-li3xp I dont have to write that, you would know which side im talking about if you werent stupid. I played tennis in college and i teach tennis
Terrible sportsmanship from Draper...
Cry
At time 1:10 and watching in extra slow motion setting, it appears the ball hit the court first then the tip of Draper's racket hit the ball immediately afterward as ball was rising up, causing the ball to have a weak upward and short trajectory. There appears to be no ball hit first then hitting the court and bouncing up. So the call was correct and Draper won the point fairly. I agree they should have looked at a clear slow motion replay for this point. It should be allowed as a challenge to a call.
Set playback to 0.25 and scrub through the video frame by frame from the replay at 1:44
I did exactly that and saw the ball touching first the floor, then the racquet, but it's really unclear (not enough frames). What do you think?
Either way, in such an uncertain situation I don't know why the don't simply replay the point, it's crazy to decide such a tight and important match on a "subjective coin toss" like that
@flavienhirsch1393 There's one frame where the ball is wedged between the racquet frame and the ground. Then it pops up and Draper hits it with his strings. So it is an illegal shot but not in the way everyone is saying.
@@michael.a.m Hmm I see what you mean, you might be right about what happened, but in that case I think the shot is actually legal, as it would be an involuntary double tap, which I reckon is allowed
Except if you mean the ball did racquet frame -> floor -> racquet string, in which case the point should've been lost as soon as the ball touches the floor
@flavienhirsch1393 Yes, the latter!
Well this isn’t the first time the umpire did something like this. Not a good look for him and jack
Fr dude thats what I just said, they better send him to the streets, he can't be making decisions on important matches if he can't see that ball right in front of him
Question:
If the umpire didn't see anything janky about Draper's shot, why does he IMMEDIATELY announce, once the ball's gone dead, "I'm ruling that was a fair shot" (0:10). Why would he need to say that if he didn't notice something possibly problematic.
Was the umpire clarifying that the bounce off the net was in fact legal? Everyone watching already knew that, it didn't need to be clarified. It's just weird that he'd announce a ruling..."everything was fine with that point" when in fact if everything was fine he shouldn't have needed to rule on anything.
Draper too: he IMMEDIATELY turns to the umpire, before FAA has even said anything, & says "I would replay if there's a replay".
Why are all 3 immediately responding/reacting like they know there's an issue...but then 20 seconds later 2 of them are gaslighting FAA that there's no issue. BOTH of them go with "I didn't see it", lol. Meanwhile FAA saw it from his own baseline.
If they had video replay it would have been point for Felix. Draper should have given the point or at the very least replay the point. It's a stain on his sportsmanship.
I was his fan before today but this was pathetic. Screw that guy. I hope he is roundly booed for his next match.
Now, if you set the playback speed to 0.25 and go to 1:07 you can definitely tell ball bounces into the court, then onto Jack's racquet and then goes to the FAA's side of the court. No bounce on Jack's side after the contact with racquet and no double bounce before the contact. So, don't see any foul here at all... Go and check yourself first
I see the same at 1:44 with no pixelation.
@maxsirenko7938, wrong, he hits the ball back into the ground. Clearly can see this at 0.25 speed. Get your eyes checked!!
@@mrwiseman8989Fully agree with your explanation. It's clear that the ball touches straight the bottom side of the racket first, than goes to the ground and than goes up straight. At 0.25 speed is clear
@@davideangeleri5664 yes 100% clear. And during play it’s obvious to see this happen too because the ball can never travel like that from a clean hit. This is why Felix knew he had already won the point and was walking to other side. Unbelievable how they can not have a replay system at the very least.
FAA is a good good and all about fair play. What a disgrace of an umpire.
1:44 in slo-mo. Ball hit his racquet then hit the ground then went over the net. It was Felix's point clearly.
Didn't hear the umpire say "I'm ruling that as a fair shot" when I watched it before. That is very strange call/reaction from the umpire. Seems like he knew something was wrong.