PSA: If you prefer the sound of one of these over the others, it's almost certainly the IRs you prefer. Don't buy IR loaders on sound. Buy for the features that you need, and then get some Ownhammer IRs and sound spectacular regardless.
Although the simplifier doesn’t use IRs, it’s analog, and the Two Notes wasn’t using IRs either, it was using the built in emulation, which is different.
I went with the Cab M+, and love it. Once you save the presets, you don’t have to use the interface anymore. Just the knobs on the pedal. I use mine with my pedalboard straight into my speaker and DI, no amp needed. It’s awesome.
I got a Simplifier, it's fantastic! Feels very organic. The writing on it is small, but this thing is TINY, I like that. I don't know how they crammed all those I/O's on there...amazing
We are glad you are enjoying the Simplifier Preamp Pedal. We were truly blown away by it when it first came in to Andertons. A great product for the guitar industry! Thanks for tuning in.
I was going to buy the simplifier, but from this video it sound always thin and too bright. I want it because it' analog and stereo. Can you wipe my doubts off?
@@TheSpaceGuitar i have one and my experience has been similar to this, there is a tinny sound to it in general. setting it to MS Brit and 4x12 cab helps to give it some more body quite a bit. that's largely worked for me. it also takes OD pedals way better than i anticipated.
@@TheSpaceGuitar Tone is influenced by sooo many factors, and of course it's subjective. With the three cabinet types and variable Mic placement there's a very wide tonal band width available. Check out some of the other RUclipsrs reviews (plus Andertons), they were all very pleased with the tone. That's what convinced me. 😁👍
For versatility, the CAB M+ is hard to beat. The sounds are great, as this shootout shows (obviously there's inherent subjectivity from listener to listener in these kinds of shootouts). But it also works surprisingly well for acoustic guitars, using the IR loader with acoustic guitar impulse responses. There's very little on the Web and YT about this, but the acoustic IRs (even free demo ones) make a direct line out from an under saddle piezo PU sound very close to a mic'd sound. And with the built-in reverbs, and powerful EQ (it also has a parametric EQ option they didn't show) as well as a compressor (the Body control on the enhancer), plus a built in noise gate and tuner, it really can serve as an all-in-one solution for playing live or recording. It also has a bass option, which works great for bass players, including lots of great bass cab IRs that come with it (in addition to accepting third-party IRs, or your own). And, as The Captain said, it can be used multiple ways for playing live or recording -- as a clean pedal platform to go direct to an FRFR monitor, FOH and/or DAW without an amp, our used in line with the power section of your amp, and then out to FOH and/or DAW, using your amp (and hearing it) as you would normally, but without having to mic it. The mobile app software is really easy to use and intuitive for on the fly changes if you need, or to change preset selections, including presets that you create yourself (it's capable of holding dozens of presets). I' ve had one for about 5 months, and it's worked great. I got it as an open box item for $219, which was a steal in my book.
I’ve had the strymon, two notes, hx stomp, and original amplifire. Two notes had the best clean base tone to my ears and the one I ended up keeping. It also covers Bass Amp territory very well and takes pedals really well, as most digital amps don’t. Amplifire had amazing amps, but didn’t take pedals well, a lot of clipping and just didn’t react like an amp with drives in front. Not sure if that’s changed with the newer versions... They are all great though. They’ll all get you through the gig. Didn’t love the helix stomp, but also didn’t spend too much time tweaking. Power supply on the hx stomp was a deal breaker for me. Strymon and Two notes both ran fine off my voodoo labs.
I wish it could load backing tracks via Bluetooth through the app… newer phones don’t have headphone or aux out any more (the Cab M has an Aux in) … so, sort of like a channel strip that can play music/tracks wirelessly
This is exactly the kind of video I hope you keep doing - compare choruses and delays and distortions and fuzzes etc - you guys have all of these pedals at your disposal - I could never spend enough time in a music store to listen to each chorus pedal for example...but you can ... :D Great vid as usual btw
Hmmm I plug my LP into my Joyo American Sound straight to the PA and it sounds fantastic 👍 Less than 40 bucks too If you want to dip your toes into this type of Sonic pool it's a great way to start IMO
I have the original Revivaldrive that I use as my preamp that goes into the Torpedo Cab M for power amp and speaker simulation. I have the preamp section in the Torpedo turned off because the analog preamp in the Revivaldrive sounds better to me. I love the sounds that I can get at any volume. It is not a cheap solution, but it sounds better than a real guitar amp with the volume knobs turned almost all the way off.
Happy to hear that i preferred the Atomic overall, as i have the Amplifire. The star of the show, though may be the Walrus reverb. Makes all the clean stuff sound quite nice, even if i didn't initially like the tones without it.
@@turiyasky8603 Headphones with the Atomic? There's a dedicated headphone jack. Are you thinking of the AmpliFireBox? You can get the manuals and specs for both at atomicamps.com
Here for the amp/cab sim comparisons before a purchase. Can’t help but notice the good choice in rough build pedal display and pedal table. Manly, “I can do that”; Business, “it’s simply cheaper if we do it this way,”; Marketing, “our customers would likely build it themselves as well, let’s connect with them.” Well done.
They might be old and not fancy but the character series pedals by Tech 21 still sound really good, and they are fully analog. Might be your best choice if you also want to spend less money.
Ditto I have a really old one ,works for two days then will not for a day or two then comes back on lol but would be lost without it ,it just takes a long time to fine tune it but when done beautiful
There are some beautiful tones coming from all of these. Do you have a recommendation for playing live solo gigs? Looking to simplify my setup. I play mostly acoustic at these gigs (with the Fishman ToneDEQ) but would like to play electric some and one of these pedals would be perfect (preamp - looper - overdrive for the leads playing over a clean loop). By the way, that Two Notes is my favorite! Such a warm tone!
I've had the Amplifirebox for 2 years it's awesome. But I wanted an effects loop for reverb and delay. I've had the Simplifier for two weeks. I love it. Plays well with overdrive too.
Amplifire ! What a realistic soiund. Clean , dirt, pedals in front. It sounds perfect in this video. I use a pedalboard ....into an ols tech 21 blonde (drives in front) mod and verb after it. Great when i put it through studio speakers. But the problem with ( i guess ) al these boxes / modelors is...when youn put them straight into the p.a. (live) or in a monitor wedge (flat response) and turn it up to gig volumes...all the magic tubey tones I hear from the studio monitors or headphones disapear and it souns like plastic. Not an real amp experience . But in studiomonitors it all sounds great. What is the reason for this? Great video captain and Pete. Great playing as always. I hope you will make more video's on these amp in a box things. But ten focussed on live permormance. For players that want to replace there tube amps for an amp in a box pedal and here himself through a punch stage monitor. Thanks man
@@cosmicjohn174 I Agree with you 100%. No comparison. It was difficult to watch (for me) before Pete became a regular. He is such a Laid-back guy, and a great guitar player. It's like night & day.
Just fyi, you do NOT have to use the smartphone editor for the Cab M. Everything you change in the app can be changed on the screen of the Cab M as well after the firmware update. It’s just a little simpler on the phone because the screen is bigger.
Thanks to those highlighted the Neunaber Neuron. It's a pedal I wasn't aware of, but looks awesome. Maybe it wasn't included in the shootout because it goes beyond the pedals featured? i.e. not aiming to emulate specific styles of amps, but allowing total flexibility. I'll definitely check out more about it.
For my money it's the Cab M+. Just excellent sound with all kinds of options using the editor. Add your effects and distortion pedals of choice and you're good to go.
I completely endorse this idea. My own rig is pedalboard-mounted, and plugs directly into front of house. The ability to travel from gig to gig with only a guitar and a pedalboard in the back seat of your car, that is the only way to travel. The preamp pedal I use is the Effectrode Blackbird. Since a Blackbird cannot be gotten anymore, I will make a note in my phone so I can recommend this video for next time someone asks me about how to build a pedalboard-mounted rig.
COVID happened. Parts are a bit more difficult to get, shipping companies are questionable at best, and garage-based builders are lucky to still be in business, let alone being able to build any significant number of units. I bought my Blackbird a couple years ago. They were $300 at the time. Just after the COVID lockdown, I saw it go over $500. Right now, they are back to about $450. Right now, everything is fluctuating wildly, so buying from garage-based builders is simply not a viable option. If the economy can get back to stability, maybe garage-based builders will too. If that happens, I will absolutely recommend Effectrode again.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy I would't describe Effectrode as a garage-based bulider though! Their peculiarity is the use of NOS vintage tubes in their pedals, so maybe it's really the scarcity of high quality tubes that meet the required standards that make difficult for Effectrode to maintain the production of some pedals, or force them to slightly revise the design so that more units can be produced with different tubes. I was lucky enough to snatch a Mercury Fuzz with a NOS Sylvania 6112, which is currently Out of Stock, for the mentioned reasons.
@@Azederac The tubes are a huge reason in why I went with Effectrode. Fender MGT and Victory Kraken are using tubes I never even heard of, which makes me wonder how to replace them when they die. Effectrode uses 12a type tubes, which are easy to get. I have 12ax7 tubes in mine, but any 12a type will work.
Gotta go with the two notes, it’s a complete amp in a box with pre amps, power amps, reverbs, ir’s, microphones (can have two different mics at the same time and change the distance and location of both on the ir cab), plus you can add your own ir’s, and a tuner.... sadly this little beast was not done justice in this demo....
My only complaint is that if you want to tweak anything live, you have to scroll through several pages in the menu and memorize the knobs. It sounded great but I had option paralysis. Sometimes less is more.
Nice demo guys! I like the looks, sounds and layout on the Strymon but I feel you get more bang for the buck in the Fire Box! The sounds are on par with the Strymon but the fact that you get effects with the Fire Box puts it over the top for me. The Two notes turned me off because of the lack of a simple U/I on the unit. The Simplifier sounded like it was scooped and needed EQ'ing so not really impressed with what I heard from that unit.
The Simplifier really appeals to me as an old school guitarist who like dials rather than menus. It also sounds the most ‘real’ to me and is not a bad price at all. How does it sound so good without the digital help?!
Love my Atomic Amplifire box! Great purchase from Andertons some years ago! Saves lugging an amp around and sounds great with IRs loaded in! Easy to use and tweak on the go live!
Sorry to bother you with a noob question because I'm a totally beginner in this kind of world. If you use this, for example in your practice room with your band, then how do your bandmates hear your sound? I mean can you connect this directly to your speaker cab?
Great playing as always from Pete! All the units sounded very good, and I was particularly impressed by the Ampli-Firebox - which had somehow stayed under my radar until now. Going by the maker's specs (despite what Lee said), I don't think it's got a headphone output. That's a real shame, because it would great to be able to use it for practising with needing any extra gear.
I’m surprised at the lack of Tech 21 love in these videos. From what I understand, they were the pioneers of this whole amp in a pedal thing with the Sansamp. They now have that Sansamp built into their Fly Rig series along with other effects. They sound awesome but I never see them in these mainstream pedal/gear shows.
Really good video. Thank you! Very informative and nice comparison. One thing that comes to mind is that the M+ could do acoustic nicely. Being able to bypass amps while still using EQ + Verb is a cool feature.
The only one of the bunch without annoying computer twiddling is the Simplifier so the choice is pretty easy. Just a shame the amp models aren't anything I'm all that interested in. Maybe with some twiddling that doesn't require computing, one can get a jazz chorus type sound? But then again, throw in a little extra and you can buy a genuine jazz chorus, that also comes with an fx loop, rec out and headphone jack.
I really wish the simplifier was simple enough to bypass the preamp and just use the power amp stage (if I could turn off the CabSims on occasion just to use my own CabSim that would be even better) The instruction pamphlet doesn’t address this and so far the company hasn’t got back to say whether it’s even possible or not… Any SIMPLIFIER users out there that want to do a RUclips video on how to actually work this thing would be very welcome!😅
Two notes for clean sound & Strymon Iridium for overdrive sound ..but overall the Strymon Iridium is more pleasant to the ears..it just needs a little bit more of low end warmth.
I just asked for a video like this next week on a comment. This is good service haha. Thanks for the comparison! Been really attracted to the Simplifier since you reviewed it, but wanted to see the other options. I think the Two Notes sounded great, but the I/Os of the Simplifier are still very attractive. The Strymon Iridum sounded a bit too boxy IMO and for that money I don't think it's worth it. Also something very important to me tha maybe was not mentioned for all of them was the Aux in to play along with songs. This is like church to me. Keep it up guys! Cheers.
Good Video thanks! For me, the Torpedo CAB M+ is lonely at the top. He is very flexible in all areas, live, studio, home recording. You just have to be able to use it properly! I use 2 rare Dumble IR`s 500s that I mix together! I've never had such a good sound! I don't want to use amps live anymore, I put the guitar in my pedal board & after the CAB M+ straight into the desk, that's it!
Seems a little like they breezed over the Iridium because it's $100 bucks more and didn't really even mention or adjust it's very realistic tones and Mic/Room knob and sounds even more real when using the Stereo Outs to capture the room's space even better. The Ampli-Firebox sounds pretty good might look into that for a dual amp situation.
Guys. You _can_ run the amp through the Firebox into the speaker cab like the two notes. Again, it's not a load box, but you can run the amp through it and then have the cab going and a direct out with an IR. People kinda need to know that.
I was just looking at the owner's manual, I don't believe you can run the speaker OUT of an amp into the firebox. At least I don't see any speaker through jacks.
@@davemarshall9153 Damn. I must have got really confused somewhere along the line. Could have sworn you could run the amp through the box and use the XLR for line out.
Guitar> Pedalas> Blackstar Fly3>Mooer Radar with Ownhammer IRS...Another very cool option. Andertons should make it happened to show people best option.
I think I would be correct in saying that the Simplifier is a pre-amp with extensive tone shaping as I don’t think you can do IRFs with analogue circuitry? The others are potentially doing more complex emulation because of the digital processing. I’ve an Iridium and am very happy with it.
Why is it that no one ever shows what these are actually plugged into that is really producing the sound, Are these going directly from the device through a speaker that is being mic'ed? Are they running through the computer with an amp emulator? Are they plugged directly into a sound card on a computer? Just how are you capturing the sound?
I'm kind of late to the party here, but which one would you recommand here for a use with headphones? Everytime I tried something, sounds with headphones was terrible with distortions or fuzz
Still the Simplifier for me. However....., the Line6 POD Go makes it more difficult for me. I've recorded in my fiend's home studio and I worked with the Helix and (mostly) the Kemper. The ease of having every combination of any amp and cabinet you could possibly imagine right in front of you was an amazing experience. And with the POD Go that's within my reach all of a sudden. That POD may win, even if I still prefer the sound and the feel of the Simplifier.
Thanks guys!! Always great!! I bought the Firebox after trialling the Iridium and research on others... It’s great! Does the job perfectly!! Has familiar controls and reverb which is a plus. Thanks again!!
It's a nice video and I understand you wanted to shoot out dedicated pedals, but I think most buyers are wondering how these stand up against the HX stomp because of how close they are in price (especially the iridium) and how much more you get with the stomp. If the stomp's pre-amp/power-amp/cab sim stands up against these pedals, a lot of people will throw it at the end of their board and use any extra effects if they need it.
Interesting comparison. Is it time to revisit your Amplifire vs 20 year old pod video? I suspect that may have had a role in limiting Atomic's success.....
So how do these compare to an iRig with Ampitube? Amplitube allows you to have a wide range of amplifiers and cabinets plus a complete virtual pedalboard. So, (for example) you can turn up for a gig with a guitar, pedalboard and Iridium and plug into the desk. With the iRig/Amplitube you only need guitar and iRig with Amplitube on your smartphone. How about a side-by-side comparison?
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PSA: If you prefer the sound of one of these over the others, it's almost certainly the IRs you prefer. Don't buy IR loaders on sound. Buy for the features that you need, and then get some Ownhammer IRs and sound spectacular regardless.
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Yes! This!
Yeah! Also heard David Hislop's IRs are killer! ;)
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Although the simplifier doesn’t use IRs, it’s analog, and the Two Notes wasn’t using IRs either, it was using the built in emulation, which is different.
I went with the Cab M+, and love it. Once you save the presets, you don’t have to use the interface anymore. Just the knobs on the pedal. I use mine with my pedalboard straight into my speaker and DI, no amp needed. It’s awesome.
I think this vid was made before the Cab M+'s update. The new pre-amps settings are great.
Now with opus I guess it's an obvious answer
I got a Simplifier, it's fantastic! Feels very organic. The writing on it is small, but this thing is TINY, I like that. I don't know how they crammed all those I/O's on there...amazing
We are glad you are enjoying the Simplifier Preamp Pedal.
We were truly blown away by it when it first came in to Andertons. A great product for the guitar industry!
Thanks for tuning in.
I was going to buy the simplifier, but from this video it sound always thin and too bright. I want it because it' analog and stereo. Can you wipe my doubts off?
@@TheSpaceGuitar i have one and my experience has been similar to this, there is a tinny sound to it in general. setting it to MS Brit and 4x12 cab helps to give it some more body quite a bit. that's largely worked for me. it also takes OD pedals way better than i anticipated.
@@TheSpaceGuitar Tone is influenced by sooo many factors, and of course it's subjective. With the three cabinet types and variable Mic placement there's a very wide tonal band width available. Check out some of the other RUclipsrs reviews (plus Andertons), they were all very pleased with the tone. That's what convinced me. 😁👍
@@garycurtis5135 but you find it thin sounding? In a clean setting mainly
For versatility, the CAB M+ is hard to beat. The sounds are great, as this shootout shows (obviously there's inherent subjectivity from listener to listener in these kinds of shootouts). But it also works surprisingly well for acoustic guitars, using the IR loader with acoustic guitar impulse responses. There's very little on the Web and YT about this, but the acoustic IRs (even free demo ones) make a direct line out from an under saddle piezo PU sound very close to a mic'd sound. And with the built-in reverbs, and powerful EQ (it also has a parametric EQ option they didn't show) as well as a compressor (the Body control on the enhancer), plus a built in noise gate and tuner, it really can serve as an all-in-one solution for playing live or recording. It also has a bass option, which works great for bass players, including lots of great bass cab IRs that come with it (in addition to accepting third-party IRs, or your own). And, as The Captain said, it can be used multiple ways for playing live or recording -- as a clean pedal platform to go direct to an FRFR monitor, FOH and/or DAW without an amp, our used in line with the power section of your amp, and then out to FOH and/or DAW, using your amp (and hearing it) as you would normally, but without having to mic it. The mobile app software is really easy to use and intuitive for on the fly changes if you need, or to change preset selections, including presets that you create yourself (it's capable of holding dozens of presets). I' ve had one for about 5 months, and it's worked great. I got it as an open box item for $219, which was a steal in my book.
Where did you buy it?
Thank you for the extra information Well worth it !
I’ve had the strymon, two notes, hx stomp, and original amplifire. Two notes had the best clean base tone to my ears and the one I ended up keeping. It also covers Bass Amp territory very well and takes pedals really well, as most digital amps don’t. Amplifire had amazing amps, but didn’t take pedals well, a lot of clipping and just didn’t react like an amp with drives in front. Not sure if that’s changed with the newer versions... They are all great though. They’ll all get you through the gig. Didn’t love the helix stomp, but also didn’t spend too much time tweaking. Power supply on the hx stomp was a deal breaker for me. Strymon and Two notes both ran fine off my voodoo labs.
Nice shootout! I think it's important Two Notes that the Cab M+ has a tuner and a noise gate. They also added more types of reverb. Good job guys!
I wish it could load backing tracks via Bluetooth through the app… newer phones don’t have headphone or aux out any more (the Cab M has an Aux in) … so, sort of like a channel strip that can play music/tracks wirelessly
@@JDAfrica you can easily get an adaptor to connect any phone to it
This is exactly the kind of video I hope you keep doing - compare choruses and delays and distortions and fuzzes etc - you guys have all of these pedals at your disposal - I could never spend enough time in a music store to listen to each chorus pedal for example...but you can ... :D
Great vid as usual btw
In the studio or live you have to have amp-less/cab-less options if you want to get hired. In 2020 there are many options at all price points.
Was really close to pulling the trigger on the Iridium but I think Simplifier has won me over.
Did you ever buy one?
I'd go for the Simplifier, no doubt! Great sounds, a lot of i/o, good price, simple to use, no menu diving! Cheers lads
Hmmm I plug my LP into my Joyo American Sound straight to the PA and it sounds fantastic 👍 Less than 40 bucks too If you want to dip your toes into this type of Sonic pool it's a great way to start IMO
I have the original Revivaldrive that I use as my preamp that goes into the Torpedo Cab M for power amp and speaker simulation. I have the preamp section in the Torpedo turned off because the analog preamp in the Revivaldrive sounds better to me. I love the sounds that I can get at any volume. It is not a cheap solution, but it sounds better than a real guitar amp with the volume knobs turned almost all the way off.
Hi, could you do a demo? I own the Cab M and and and I'm looking for a preamp to add before, and you choice seems to be good.
somehow my takeaway from this video is I really want a Walrus Slo...
Happy to hear that i preferred the Atomic overall, as i have the Amplifire. The star of the show, though may be the Walrus reverb. Makes all the clean stuff sound quite nice, even if i didn't initially like the tones without it.
Can u connect headphones to the output? In the manual pdf it says u can plug a ts cable.
@@turiyasky8603 Headphones with the Atomic? There's a dedicated headphone jack. Are you thinking of the AmpliFireBox? You can get the manuals and specs for both at atomicamps.com
I think the Strymon sounded the best with the Revival drive. They all sound great clean.
Replaced my tube amp with the iridium couple of months ago, best decision of my life
Here for the amp/cab sim comparisons before a purchase. Can’t help but notice the good choice in rough build pedal display and pedal table. Manly, “I can do that”; Business, “it’s simply cheaper if we do it this way,”; Marketing, “our customers would likely build it themselves as well, let’s connect with them.” Well done.
They might be old and not fancy but the character series pedals by Tech 21 still sound really good, and they are fully analog. Might be your best choice if you also want to spend less money.
Ditto I have a really old one ,works for two days then will not for a day or two then comes back on lol but would be lost without it ,it just takes a long time to fine tune it but when done beautiful
yeah simp;ifier is just a sansamp clone
There are some beautiful tones coming from all of these. Do you have a recommendation for playing live solo gigs? Looking to simplify my setup. I play mostly acoustic at these gigs (with the Fishman ToneDEQ) but would like to play electric some and one of these pedals would be perfect (preamp - looper - overdrive for the leads playing over a clean loop).
By the way, that Two Notes is my favorite! Such a warm tone!
I've had the Amplifirebox for 2 years it's awesome. But I wanted an effects loop for reverb and delay. I've had the Simplifier for two weeks. I love it. Plays well with overdrive too.
Amplifire ! What a realistic soiund. Clean , dirt, pedals in front. It sounds perfect in this video. I use a pedalboard ....into an ols tech 21 blonde (drives in front) mod and verb after it. Great when i put it through studio speakers. But the problem with ( i guess ) al these boxes / modelors is...when youn put them straight into the p.a. (live) or in a monitor wedge (flat response) and turn it up to gig volumes...all the magic tubey tones I hear from the studio monitors or headphones disapear and it souns like plastic. Not an real amp experience . But in studiomonitors it all sounds great. What is the reason for this? Great video captain and Pete. Great playing as always. I hope you will make more video's on these amp in a box things. But ten focussed on live permormance. For players that want to replace there tube amps for an amp in a box pedal and here himself through a punch stage monitor. Thanks man
Can't get over how great Pete's playing is.
Hes so more refreshing then Chapman, and dare I say a better overall better....
@@cosmicjohn174 I Agree with you 100%. No comparison. It was difficult to watch (for me) before Pete became a regular. He is such a Laid-back guy, and a great guitar player. It's like night & day.
I bought a Simplifier on the strength of your previous video and Pete Thorns review. Its an incredible tool to have on the board
Just fyi, you do NOT have to use the smartphone editor for the Cab M. Everything you change in the app can be changed on the screen of the Cab M as well after the firmware update. It’s just a little simpler on the phone because the screen is bigger.
torpedo 5:13
firebox 9:21
iridium 16:14
Simplifier 20:34
I think the cab m sounded the best to my ears!! Rich and full , iridium second, simplifier is its own thing being analog and all...
Agreed. I had the iridium, played it live twice and sold it. Cab m is the boss in this territory for live
@@jasonkerr931 What about for bedroom recording would you say Cab m also had superior sound in that context?
@@barneyrubble8255 cab m for sure
Four preamps enter, one leaves. Welcome to the Preamp Thunderdome. Thank you for giving the people what they want!!
Master Blaster !!!
Thanks to those highlighted the Neunaber Neuron. It's a pedal I wasn't aware of, but looks awesome. Maybe it wasn't included in the shootout because it goes beyond the pedals featured? i.e. not aiming to emulate specific styles of amps, but allowing total flexibility. I'll definitely check out more about it.
Thanks again for the heads-up on the Neuron - the more I've checked it out, the better sense it's made for me as my core unit.
Pete's noodling at 21:25 gave me MAJOR goosebumps. NIIIICE!
Did I spot a "Lee-Riff" at 6:17 ? :-)
It's not an Andertons video without it... 😉
Gotta love it when dp and the captain come out with a new vid!!
We've got videos for all your guitar needs! 🤘
Andertons Music Co indeed you do! It’s tremendous
Ooooh the Purple Teleeeeee
It makes an appearance from time to time... 😉
And all is right with the world 😎
cab m 26:30 28:06
atomic 26:51 28:25
stymon 27:15 28:46
simplifier 27:40 29:08
For my money it's the Cab M+. Just excellent sound with all kinds of options using the editor. Add your effects and distortion pedals of choice and you're good to go.
I completely endorse this idea. My own rig is pedalboard-mounted, and plugs directly into front of house. The ability to travel from gig to gig with only a guitar and a pedalboard in the back seat of your car, that is the only way to travel.
The preamp pedal I use is the Effectrode Blackbird. Since a Blackbird cannot be gotten anymore, I will make a note in my phone so I can recommend this video for next time someone asks me about how to build a pedalboard-mounted rig.
COVID happened. Parts are a bit more difficult to get, shipping companies are questionable at best, and garage-based builders are lucky to still be in business, let alone being able to build any significant number of units.
I bought my Blackbird a couple years ago. They were $300 at the time. Just after the COVID lockdown, I saw it go over $500. Right now, they are back to about $450. Right now, everything is fluctuating wildly, so buying from garage-based builders is simply not a viable option. If the economy can get back to stability, maybe garage-based builders will too. If that happens, I will absolutely recommend Effectrode again.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy I would't describe Effectrode as a garage-based bulider though!
Their peculiarity is the use of NOS vintage tubes in their pedals, so maybe it's really the scarcity of high quality tubes that meet the required standards that make difficult for Effectrode to maintain the production of some pedals, or force them to slightly revise the design so that more units can be produced with different tubes.
I was lucky enough to snatch a Mercury Fuzz with a NOS Sylvania 6112, which is currently Out of Stock, for the mentioned reasons.
@@Azederac The tubes are a huge reason in why I went with Effectrode. Fender MGT and Victory Kraken are using tubes I never even heard of, which makes me wonder how to replace them when they die. Effectrode uses 12a type tubes, which are easy to get. I have 12ax7 tubes in mine, but any 12a type will work.
Glad to see the Simplifier making a return!
Gotta go with the two notes, it’s a complete amp in a box with pre amps, power amps, reverbs, ir’s, microphones (can have two different mics at the same time and change the distance and location of both on the ir cab), plus you can add your own ir’s, and a tuner.... sadly this little beast was not done justice in this demo....
My only complaint is that if you want to tweak anything live, you have to scroll through several pages in the menu and memorize the knobs. It sounded great but I had option paralysis. Sometimes less is more.
@@LeftOpenOfficial Or just take your phone of your pocket and make the changes in seconds
the Strymon Iridium also has a stereo IN on TRS plug
Purple Tele magic is back!
Nice demo guys! I like the looks, sounds and layout on the Strymon but I feel you get more bang for the buck in the Fire Box! The sounds are on par with the Strymon but the fact that you get effects with the Fire Box puts it over the top for me. The Two notes turned me off because of the lack of a simple U/I on the unit. The Simplifier sounded like it was scooped and needed EQ'ing so not really impressed with what I heard from that unit.
I was really rooting for the Simplifier but it didn't sound very good.
The Simplifier really appeals to me as an old school guitarist who like dials rather than menus. It also sounds the most ‘real’ to me and is not a bad price at all. How does it sound so good without the digital help?!
Because the digital doesn't get in the way!
Love my Atomic Amplifire box! Great purchase from Andertons some years ago! Saves lugging an amp around and sounds great with IRs loaded in! Easy to use and tweak on the go live!
I love mine too !!!.....u can set up 9 amps and diff settings in just minutes!!....and the echo/delay is outstanding!!!...
Sorry to bother you with a noob question because I'm a totally beginner in this kind of world. If you use this, for example in your practice room with your band, then how do your bandmates hear your sound? I mean can you connect this directly to your speaker cab?
Great playing as always from Pete! All the units sounded very good, and I was particularly impressed by the Ampli-Firebox - which had somehow stayed under my radar until now. Going by the maker's specs (despite what Lee said), I don't think it's got a headphone output. That's a real shame, because it would great to be able to use it for practising with needing any extra gear.
I use mine with headphones just do the trick where you plug in halfway. Could easily do it with adapter also
I liked the Iridium and the Amplifire
Spot on the video I have been waiting for, thanks a lot for the comparison of the units. Difficult to choose from one of them!
The content is always good but the editing is what keeps me coming back to Andertons videos.
I want the ability to: get my 65 Blackface Fender Princeton "Clean" - through the P.A. (without having to carry my Amp to Gigs) - any Input ?
I’m surprised at the lack of Tech 21 love in these videos. From what I understand, they were the pioneers of this whole amp in a pedal thing with the Sansamp. They now have that Sansamp built into their Fly Rig series along with other effects. They sound awesome but I never see them in these mainstream pedal/gear shows.
👋✋👋Exactly what I was thinking.They rock.
Thanks for the heads up ! They seems cool 👌
A Sansamp? Wow... blast from the past lol
@@primedirective00 the simplifier is juat a sansamp clone
Really good video. Thank you! Very informative and nice comparison. One thing that comes to mind is that the M+ could do acoustic nicely. Being able to bypass amps while still using EQ + Verb is a cool feature.
Until I heard the Simplifier , I'd of tripped over myself to buy the Fire power. Now I have get both. That Simplifier is just real really real✌️
go watch the neural dsp quad cortex....
@@kingfisher7960 yea I did that. It's impressive. Look forward to trying this one out once they are easily accessed. Thanks mate ✌️ 🎶 🎶
Great demonstration! I'd love to see a comparison of the Simplifier, Omni Cab Sim, and Omni Cab Mini (all made by DSM).
They all sound very good. Seems like most of the differences are in EQ. I think I might go for whichever one I can get the best deal on.
Aren't all amps in a box tho?
We found him everyone! Here is “that guy”!
That's deep dude
The only one of the bunch without annoying computer twiddling is the Simplifier so the choice is pretty easy. Just a shame the amp models aren't anything I'm all that interested in. Maybe with some twiddling that doesn't require computing, one can get a jazz chorus type sound? But then again, throw in a little extra and you can buy a genuine jazz chorus, that also comes with an fx loop, rec out and headphone jack.
I really wish the simplifier was simple enough to bypass the preamp and just use the power amp stage (if I could turn off the CabSims on occasion just to use my own CabSim that would be even better)
The instruction pamphlet doesn’t address this and so far the company hasn’t got back to say whether it’s even possible or not…
Any SIMPLIFIER users out there that want to do a RUclips video on how to actually work this thing would be very welcome!😅
2:45 - this "A-ha" is hilarious
Two notes for clean sound & Strymon Iridium for overdrive sound ..but overall the Strymon Iridium is more pleasant to the ears..it just needs a little bit more of low end warmth.
Strymon Iridium is just the best in my opinion.
I just asked for a video like this next week on a comment. This is good service haha. Thanks for the comparison! Been really attracted to the Simplifier since you reviewed it, but wanted to see the other options. I think the Two Notes sounded great, but the I/Os of the Simplifier are still very attractive.
The Strymon Iridum sounded a bit too boxy IMO and for that money I don't think it's worth it. Also something very important to me tha maybe was not mentioned for all of them was the Aux in to play along with songs.
This is like church to me. Keep it up guys! Cheers.
If the Simplifier had some sort of channel switching capability it would be in my rig ASAP
Did you see the simplified dlx?
Hey guys(: Quick question: are you sending the Strymon into the Hi-Z inputs of the Apollo or into a DI Box and to the Apollo?
That's an amazing revival drive ad!
You can use the Simplifier in conjunction with your favorite amp! FYI.
I just got it and was thinking that the entire time to add the cabs mics tubes stereo simulation all that holy shit
Good Video thanks! For me, the Torpedo CAB M+ is lonely at the top. He is very flexible in all areas, live, studio, home recording. You just have to be able to use it properly! I use 2 rare Dumble IR`s 500s that I mix together! I've never had such a good sound! I don't want to use amps live anymore, I put the guitar in my pedal board & after the CAB M+ straight into the desk, that's it!
can i have a copy of the IRs please
why i watched this video? To listen to Pete's playing!!
they all sound GREAT! but everything sounds great when Pete is playing!
Thanks for tuning in! 🤘
Seems a little like they breezed over the Iridium because it's $100 bucks more and didn't really even mention or adjust it's very realistic tones and Mic/Room knob and sounds even more real when using the Stereo Outs to capture the room's space even better. The Ampli-Firebox sounds pretty good might look into that for a dual amp situation.
Competent gain staging and a good DI with a 4 X 12 sim. That's all you need. What's an amp?
Guys. You _can_ run the amp through the Firebox into the speaker cab like the two notes. Again, it's not a load box, but you can run the amp through it and then have the cab going and a direct out with an IR. People kinda need to know that.
I was just looking at the owner's manual, I don't believe you can run the speaker OUT of an amp into the firebox. At least I don't see any speaker through jacks.
@@davemarshall9153 Damn. I must have got really confused somewhere along the line. Could have sworn you could run the amp through the box and use the XLR for line out.
Strymon Compadre vs Cali 76 would be amazing !!!
Guitar> Pedalas> Blackstar Fly3>Mooer Radar with Ownhammer IRS...Another very cool option. Andertons should make it happened to show people best option.
I think I would be correct in saying that the Simplifier is a pre-amp with extensive tone shaping as I don’t think you can do IRFs with analogue circuitry? The others are potentially doing more complex emulation because of the digital processing. I’ve an Iridium and am very happy with it.
Why is it that no one ever shows what these are actually plugged into that is really producing the sound, Are these going directly from the device through a speaker that is being mic'ed? Are they running through the computer with an amp emulator? Are they plugged directly into a sound card on a computer? Just how are you capturing the sound?
Thanks for the review!! Buying the DSM this week cheers 🤙🏿.
I'm kind of late to the party here, but which one would you recommand here for a use with headphones? Everytime I tried something, sounds with headphones was terrible with distortions or fuzz
Still the Simplifier for me. However....., the Line6 POD Go makes it more difficult for me. I've recorded in my fiend's home studio and I worked with the Helix and (mostly) the Kemper. The ease of having every combination of any amp and cabinet you could possibly imagine right in front of you was an amazing experience. And with the POD Go that's within my reach all of a sudden. That POD may win, even if I still prefer the sound and the feel of the Simplifier.
Thanks guys!! Always great!! I bought the Firebox after trialling the Iridium and research on others... It’s great! Does the job perfectly!! Has familiar controls and reverb which is a plus. Thanks again!!
Why did you chose it over Iridium? Im trying to decide myself now
I like the two notes and iridium clean sounds.
15:52 Well played, Mr. editor man.
😂
Plexi with atomic firebox is insane..!!
Please try the AMT brick series!
Plexi. Wooooooooo! That note seemed like it was a keeper.
and the winner is ...
The Walrus Slo Reverb ! ' and Pete's game of course
I bought a Atomic aplifire box .it fantastic.
It's a nice video and I understand you wanted to shoot out dedicated pedals, but I think most buyers are wondering how these stand up against the HX stomp because of how close they are in price (especially the iridium) and how much more you get with the stomp. If the stomp's pre-amp/power-amp/cab sim stands up against these pedals, a lot of people will throw it at the end of their board and use any extra effects if they need it.
Interesting comparison. Is it time to revisit your Amplifire vs 20 year old pod video? I suspect that may have had a role in limiting Atomic's success.....
We want this damn book of Danish chords that st Peter plays when people pass through the gates!!!
I'm looking for live use. Seems like the Simplifier makes the most sense for live performance.
The revivaldrive compact was the best invest In my tone i‘ve ever made
No more the Ultimate since there’s an Ampli Firebox MKII out now!!
I like the simplifier because of effects loop and sound great
Obviously now Pete needs to upload a video on his channel showing us the chords to that gorgeous reverb filled progression...
Why didn’t you do the original revival drive!? I have it with a mooer radar and use as an amp and it’s amazing!
Had the Atomic Ampli-Firebox. It was great. Bought the Iridium; sold the AFB the next day :)
To tell or not to tell a that is the question
So how do these compare to an iRig with Ampitube? Amplitube allows you to have a wide range of amplifiers and cabinets plus a complete virtual pedalboard. So, (for example) you can turn up for a gig with a guitar, pedalboard and Iridium and plug into the desk. With the iRig/Amplitube you only need guitar and iRig with Amplitube on your smartphone. How about a side-by-side comparison?
that's some great video editing
The first, the ceapest One.
Cuerda a Cuerda, tu curso de guitarra rock.
Two notes...largely the better in this competition
I think that and the simplifier the two notes was pretty thick tho 😂
I just got the Positive Grid Spark. Seriously wondering whether I will ever plug into another amp at home (i.e., not gigging).
Is that reclaimed wood supporting the Two notes?