@@djharto4917 didn't know jokes are personal property? a joke isn't a joke if you aren't allowed to tell them to other people and now shut your mouth Jesus Christ
@@djharto4917 so making other people laugh from something they found funny is not allowed??? If you've thought of something,there's a very high chance that the 10 billion people who have lived on this Earth have thought about it before you
@@bakersmileyface No, but if I did I definitely wouldn't have a trainer come into my home for it, I'd have to go to a gym. The everyday person doesn't have their own visiting personal trainer.
@@islicedice4139 Gyms usually offer affordable one-on-one training sessions though. If you went to a gym just casually, you wouldn't need to know how many punches you're throwing because the person in charge of the class would tell you when to start and when to stop. How many punches you throw in that time would be up to your own capability and I doubt you'd be invested enough to want to purchase something like this for that. Anyone who takes boxing seriously enough to purchase this product would already have a personal trainer or those one on one lessons. They'd become essential for you because in order to fight well, you'll want to know what your form and technique is looking like so that you can hone and perfect it. So in other words, if you have a personal trainer then you won't really need this product. And perhaps some personal trainers may want it or some average joes might buy it because they can. But that's a limited market and nobody would want to invest in that. So Tej was spot on in that regard. Most people who would want that product would have a personal trainer instead.
@@bakersmileyface I'm not really talking about his stance on the product or its capability in the market, just that one line. He is for sure not the everyday person, and regardless of that, the everyday person does not have a personal trainer come in for them. They'll attend a class like you said.
@@islicedice4139 Sorry. Tej was making the point that the average person who does boxing would not need the product. So I focused my argument on that. I didn't realise you were talking about that one line completely ignoring the context of what he was saying. In which case I'm inclined to agree with you. Yes, he's not the average person and the average person does not have a personal trainer.
"We're flat-out lying to your face about the amount of profit we expect to make" isn't a "small hole". I'm shocked when that was revealed that they weren't then destroyed. People make mistakes with their numbers all the time under the pressure on here - that was a deliberate scam.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND The individual did not request this service, though. Their comment was written quickly, so I believe grammatical mistakes are to be expected. I do not believe you are a "Grammar Nazi," and you are obviously not overly serious in your discourse, but I do believe your initial comment to be unnecessary, and unrequested corrections of grammar in general to be worth avoiding.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND Yeah, I think a lot of it is attributed to laziness. Computers make typing so fast that people rarely spend much time checking or even just looking at what they are writing. This leads to a good few mistakes.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND - "There has" NOT "They'res "There" NOT "Their "Who may not be" NOT "who are maybe not" "They" NOT "There" (basic spelling and grammar son)
I work in financial services and I see Jenny's behaviors all the time... Keeps asking difficult questions for the sake of it without any intention of extracting useful information. Total waste of time her being on this show.
In a way I can sometimes see why the dragons do this, it's like the way scientists think, they try and find flaws as much as they can as when a scientist doesn't find any that's when they go with it Edit: Although from a 'tv entertainment' perspective I agree, she adds nothing to the show and pisses off the viewers in a bad way
They all do this- i liken it to selling a car- you get those people trashing it and kicking tires just to try to feel out how much you know, and to try to set up for a lowball offer. If they sense you actually defending your asking price or that there’s no wiggle room- they’re out. Jenny in particular seems to want something she can just throw money at and see a return with no other input on her end. Which is why that hilarious running joke exists. At the end of the day- none of them really knew what they were talking about. These guys hopefully got some offers after the show aired
@Shalucard I have to agree. I box at the gym with a friend and I wanted it after the pitch alone. I've also got a friend who's an amateur boxer and this is absolutely something he'd use. It has it's uses throughout the market, being sold in bulk to gyms/trainers and single units to people like myself.
I wonder if his trainer thought.... YES YES YOU DO need to know how fast you ae hitting so you can see if you improve. Ha ha ha. But yeah...i don't need an app, I'd use a trainer. Yeah....yeah...and what you spend in one month, you would have what you paid for this device. *honestly, I missed the price point I thought he said 79.99 but I guess he may have said 799.99.
I don't think she will have bluffed anything at all. Dragon's Den will have a team of headhunters loooking for idle business tycoons to get on TV. They obviously also have certain social profiles to meet too, i.e. the Dragon's need to be mixed (rather than a panel of rich white gammons). Jenny ticks two boxes for a UK audience: "Northern" and "Female". And so they chose her.
That was the best I've seen from Jenny - she did some proper due diligence on the business using actual real world commercial sense. In a remarkable turn of events, I understand why she declared herself out.
They were misleading the dragons. She brought the numbers out. If you don't lìke that, you must hate Peter then, seeing how he's the rudest of them all.
This product would also probably target the 'tough', 'I train everyday', 'I post shirtless pics on Instagram', 'I want to brag about myself' guy who would post the stats all over social media
Jenny is like a trainspotter she goes and watches,gets excited,makes a few notes,talks about this and that and then in the end walks away and comes back a week later and does the same thing again.
Touker: "I want 40% of the business and, in return, I'll give you an office in central London, fly to China with you and, oh, you heard of time? I invented that. It's yours for 40%"
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I know this is a controversial “defending Jenny” comment but she actually had a point here. You can’t say you expect £300k gross profit but then say that assumes 100% of sales at £80, while admitting half of them will likely be at £45. It’s a bit silly.
she is rude but her business is economic/money based business he cares about numbers and thats all she asked those questions as she was doing the maths shes just tight with her money and very good at maths
indeed - body language was all wrong - worst thing you can do in a professional situation is fold your arms - they even teach you this as a no-no in interviews
He folds his arms because he's not interested, or wants to take in the information he is receiving, it's largely financial information and that is not his language.
I don’t know if you notice but at 2:31 at about the same time he folds his arms his phone starts ringing in his pocket. The mic picks it up goes on for ages he must have been shitting himself but somehow they didn’t notice
Don't disagree that there are some, just a high percentage of the deals don't complete. I would like to see programmes / interviews with those who have gone through the deals, good and bad.
That's because she fighting desperately to find a good excuse to be OUT, the sheer terror in her eyes when the camera shifts her direction is laughable and entertaining haha
She doesn't most of the times... her asking any relevant questions is rare because her intentions are mostly about getting out!!! She is almost never that interested to ask good questions!
sammey1 I see where you’re coming from, but the likes of apple make much more complex devices than - in a nutshell - a pair of gyroscopic IoT sensors. If their whole company is solely focused on this one device, they could’ve maybe given it a crack (with that spare 200k lying about), or at least had a reason why they didn’t.
@@ItsEntirelyPossible1 if they'd gone through designing and manufacturing their own gyros it'd set them back by more than that £200,000 then the dragons would complain that they're in the red. When the business then grows it'd cost an inordinate amount to scale up production, so for simple cheap components that can be sourced literally anywhere (e.g. a gyro) it makes sense.
Good product. They’re right in that the real value is not mainly in the hardware, but the algorithms and software. I just think they were new to business in general, and they came in to the Den at a very early stage of the product life. With no backing on how consumers like (aka sales volume) the product, it’s very hard to judge the business value.
The dragons made a mistake with this one. If one of the Dragons actually thought to work with and build this product, as an amateur boxer who hits the heavybag three times a week, I definitely would love to use it. Because, like they said, there's an app for cyclists, bodybuilders and runners, but not for boxers. And we love progress reports, they make us feel like we're building on something. Innovative and ingenius, such a shame they don't understand boxing and so don't understand the market. Any boxer would want this
Because it's absurd to compare this to cycling, running, bodybuilding etc. It sounds ridiculous what Tej has said, but it's entirely true. If you really want a serious progress report, you go to your coach / trainer, at least if you're serious about it. If you're an amateur, it probably doesn't matter that much, OR that it's just too expensive. I mean, it's an entirely separate device. With running, cycling, bodybuilding etc. you can use your phone.
Cycling, running and walking apps are free that’s why so many people use them. Ask Strava how many people subscribe and how many people use the free version.
There absolutely is a psychological aspect to seeing your values increase before your eyes. For example, if you start boxing at a mere 25 pounds of force per punch, basically just throwing your shoulder into it, and you work your way up to 30, 35, 40, 50, 75... There's great satisfaction in seeing the improvement before your eyes. Otherwise it's simply _"I think I'm hitting harder?"_
she is rude but her business is economic/money based business he cares about numbers and thats all she asked those questions as she was doing the maths shes just tight with her money and very good at maths
@4:15 "What if it's an every day person like me, where my personal trainer comes to my mansion and does a bit of boxing in my full sized ring in the corner of my home gym..."
Oh, Peter's a really clever man... The important thing is to develop motion sensors and own that... Sensors can be bought from every tech factory in China. The value is in the softwere and the use of this in combination.
Don’t know how no one else has commented it yet but at 2:31 the guy on the right’s phone goes off and Keeps buzzing for a good while , I have headphones on so noticed it quickly. You can see it in his face 😂😂😂
When the Dragon’s say things like ‘You’re not sure how you’re bringing this to market’, isn’t that part of the point of wanting a Dragon to invest and not someone who could just invest cash with zero business experience?
I think when they say that to people it means they don't want to baby a business with the effort and money that would be equivalent to running their own businesses. Having to sort out everything for a business I bet would just be hassle especially if the product isn't going to sell well. They got advice coming on the show anyway about what they missed or didn't have or what they need to do.
Awkward moment when the dudes phone is vibrating and Im scrambling in my bed trying to find my phone thinking its mine, only to realise that it was from this clip haha
You can say anything about Jenny but I loved how she put them in the corner and knocked them out with simple math. She didn't need any special software for this.
That's true. For all the jokes made about her, I think it all comes down to her being just a pretty conservative investor, especially compared to her peers. It's clear she puts heavy emphasis and importance about the finances and fundamentals of the business more so than just sheer potential. Makes sense for someone from the finance industry, I'd say.
Well done Jenny! I watched with interest as all the other Dragons listened attentively at Jenny's grilling of these very disorganised pair. Oh, the Jenny 'I'm out' jokes are hilarious, but in actual fact in series 15, she had the most number of successful deals than anyone. She was only one deal less than Peter Jones in series 16 and whilst the investing in the least number in series 16 she is not the worst Dragon investor out there. Conversely, I find Jenny Campbell very ethical and only willing to invest when she can only make a real difference, sincerely believes that the entrepreneurs and their business are worth investing in. In the unlikely event that I were to pitch in the Dragons' Den and receive an offer from Peter Jones, Deborah Meaden and Jenny Campbell, I'd accept Jenny's offer over the other two any day.
I thought the point about the boring screen was exactly right. And they don’t own the tech, so they can’t protect their product. They’re going to get knocked out.
I wonder honestly, how many times you see Peter Jones ask them "do you own the full patent?" Hoping for people to say no, so then as soon as the show is over, he can make a few phone calls and roll out the same product with all his networking power behind it. Its just clicked with me, that sometimes when he doesn't invest in things he could be doing that, Bill Gates, Richard Brandon, Alan Sugar, Steve Jobs - all do/and did that. I would do that if I was in his position. Common sense really.... Why invest when you could steal the idea and do it 10x more effectively and then own 100%. Crazy how the exchanges on this clip made me realise this could well be a reality... You couldn't ever sue anyone that powerful even if it did happen.
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Why u trying to drive people away from RUclips....!
what's with all the puns??
it gets boring and silly quite quickly
Facebook is dead
No thanks. Don't and won't use it. Ever
Oh Jenny!!
Why the bloody hell cant i stop watching these.
Because you're in
I'm binge watching too :-)
Glad it's not just me 😅😅
I stumbled on this comment when I was thinking this myself at 5am. Starting to piss me off.
N Gauge England -Synthematix- same haha the dragons are so aggressive
"I'm Jenny and I'd like to make you an offer for all the money."
Jenny wakes up. "My god, what a nightmare".
😂😂😂
Good job stealing that comment. Pathetic
@@djharto4917 didn't know jokes are personal property? a joke isn't a joke if you aren't allowed to tell them to other people and now shut your mouth Jesus Christ
@@djharto4917 so making other people laugh from something they found funny is not allowed???
If you've thought of something,there's a very high chance that the 10 billion people who have lived on this Earth have thought about it before you
I'm jenny I'm out
Multimillionaire: "Why would anyone want a relatively inexpensive training device? Just hire a personal trainer to come to your house like I do."
😂😂😂
why would you hire a personal trainer....
They do that a lot.
Lmao
haha these people are oblivious
Personal trainers often come with gym membership in the uk
Has anyone noticed how Jenny rarely invests?
Someone should post a humorous comment on RUclips about that very fact.
I would 'like' the comment.
Because she doesn't want to invest in some shitty business bruh
What do you mean, there has been so many jokes about her!? Jesus Christ
BobbySpasmoid 2Rice what?
@@teatowel1748 He was so ironicly he could be lol
@@teatowel1748 r/whooosh
4:13
"if it's for the everyday person like me, my trainer comes in we do a bit of boxing..."
the lack of self awareness in saying that lmao
Do you box?
@@bakersmileyface No, but if I did I definitely wouldn't have a trainer come into my home for it, I'd have to go to a gym. The everyday person doesn't have their own visiting personal trainer.
@@islicedice4139 Gyms usually offer affordable one-on-one training sessions though.
If you went to a gym just casually, you wouldn't need to know how many punches you're throwing because the person in charge of the class would tell you when to start and when to stop. How many punches you throw in that time would be up to your own capability and I doubt you'd be invested enough to want to purchase something like this for that.
Anyone who takes boxing seriously enough to purchase this product would already have a personal trainer or those one on one lessons. They'd become essential for you because in order to fight well, you'll want to know what your form and technique is looking like so that you can hone and perfect it.
So in other words, if you have a personal trainer then you won't really need this product. And perhaps some personal trainers may want it or some average joes might buy it because they can. But that's a limited market and nobody would want to invest in that.
So Tej was spot on in that regard. Most people who would want that product would have a personal trainer instead.
@@bakersmileyface I'm not really talking about his stance on the product or its capability in the market, just that one line. He is for sure not the everyday person, and regardless of that, the everyday person does not have a personal trainer come in for them. They'll attend a class like you said.
@@islicedice4139 Sorry. Tej was making the point that the average person who does boxing would not need the product. So I focused my argument on that.
I didn't realise you were talking about that one line completely ignoring the context of what he was saying.
In which case I'm inclined to agree with you. Yes, he's not the average person and the average person does not have a personal trainer.
I admire Jenny's determination. Determination to find that small hole in the proposal so she can say the magic words. :D
"We're flat-out lying to your face about the amount of profit we expect to make" isn't a "small hole". I'm shocked when that was revealed that they weren't then destroyed. People make mistakes with their numbers all the time under the pressure on here - that was a deliberate scam.
🤔💭 🐇🕳
Why is she even questioning them coz shes never going to invest anyway
She's the Barbara (from shark tank) of this show
I don't understand why she's on the show when she never invests
Tej is a true man of the people right there! "If you're targeting amateurs like me for example, I will get my trainer to come round and box a bit...."
It's remarkable how in touch they are in with the lives of the 99%!
@@myname9130 two can play at that game!
@@myname9130 They are the 99%. Normal people who made a nice bit of money. The 1% you could never possibly know who they are.
@@ibexdnb2879 They're called the rothschilds, the bush's, the kennedy's, the clinton's, the xi's, the putin's....
it's all public record ya dummy.
@@ibexdnb2879 BZZZZZ Wrong!
the actual secret at area 51 is video footage of jenny saying yes
hillarious
😂😂of all the Jenny comments. Yours is original and the best.
She invested in a cannabis company
She personally invested in the nukes
Ha ha. Barbara has gotten nothing on Jenny.
Jenny: I'm in
...the process of telling you that I'm out
😂 😂 😂 😂
chuckled softly
Aashish Bharat The first Jenny joke that actually made me lol
One of the best Jenny Jokes yet.
She was dropped from her girl's cricket team at school because she was always out before she was even in.
I’m glad they got rid of Jenny, she doesn’t invest and just disrespects people for no reason.
She actually makes a lot of offers
Trading Edge offering to be out you mean
She purposely puts them off and talks down to them, tries to confuse them etc. So annoying. The new dragon is so much better
Plus she has such a sour resting face
So would you say shes out then?
Jenny: Small profit loss first year 5k, second year profit 300k. Can’t afford to lose 5k, so I’m out.
G Dog tbf there not going to achieve that. Thats with 100% profit when in reality 75% of their sales will have 45% profit.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND Woah there buddy, they're isn't gonna be any trouble here
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND The individual did not request this service, though. Their comment was written quickly, so I believe grammatical mistakes are to be expected. I do not believe you are a "Grammar Nazi," and you are obviously not overly serious in your discourse, but I do believe your initial comment to be unnecessary, and unrequested corrections of grammar in general to be worth avoiding.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND Yeah, I think a lot of it is attributed to laziness. Computers make typing so fast that people rarely spend much time checking or even just looking at what they are writing. This leads to a good few mistakes.
@TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND - "There has" NOT "They'res
"There" NOT "Their
"Who may not be" NOT "who are maybe not"
"They" NOT "There"
(basic spelling and grammar son)
I work in financial services and I see Jenny's behaviors all the time... Keeps asking difficult questions for the sake of it without any intention of extracting useful information. Total waste of time her being on this show.
In a way I can sometimes see why the dragons do this, it's like the way scientists think, they try and find flaws as much as they can as when a scientist doesn't find any that's when they go with it
Edit: Although from a 'tv entertainment' perspective I agree, she adds nothing to the show and pisses off the viewers in a bad way
I come to the comments for cheap Jenny jokes. Now you're forcing me to think.
Yh if she don’t like something she just acts rude while saying thank you or being very stern because she wants an excuse to leave
They all do this- i liken it to selling a car- you get those people trashing it and kicking tires just to try to feel out how much you know, and to try to set up for a lowball offer. If they sense you actually defending your asking price or that there’s no wiggle room- they’re out. Jenny in particular seems to want something she can just throw money at and see a return with no other input on her end. Which is why that hilarious running joke exists. At the end of the day- none of them really knew what they were talking about. These guys hopefully got some offers after the show aired
It's correct to ask difficult question FFS ! These jokers haven't a clue and will clearly fail.
Who's this Jenny everyone keeps mentioning in the comments. I'm sick of it,
For that reason I'm out.
Isn't her phone number 867-5309?
😄
😂😂😂
Lol
Touker's face when Tej says he does boxing is absolutely brilliant!
For £79.99 I would need 50% the company.
They are doing well now selling it for 129.99. This was a very much investable idea
@Shalucard I have to agree. I box at the gym with a friend and I wanted it after the pitch alone. I've also got a friend who's an amateur boxer and this is absolutely something he'd use. It has it's uses throughout the market, being sold in bulk to gyms/trainers and single units to people like myself.
😂
"if it's an everyday person who's into fitness like me my trainer comes and I do a bit of boxing at home"
AH yes, the everyday persons
I wonder if his trainer thought.... YES YES YOU DO need to know how fast you ae hitting so you can see if you improve. Ha ha ha. But yeah...i don't need an app, I'd use a trainer.
Yeah....yeah...and what you spend in one month, you would have what you paid for this device. *honestly, I missed the price point I thought he said 79.99 but I guess he may have said 799.99.
Why has no one thought of putting Jenny in charge of Brexit?
She wants to be out of brexit
I don't think she is involved in politics.
@Green Grugach I don't go to many if any.I am a male cheerleader and the jocks refuse me and my friend as we gossip with tha gals.
She probably help closet gays
Rumor has it that Jenny can only dance half the hokey Cokey
Such an under appreciated gem of a joke 🤣
Very nice, creative
brilliant joke hahah should have done better
That took a while for me...beautiful.
Underappreciated comment.
Jenny always wants to be K.O.'ed in boxing because she gets to be out
🤣
She never waits for the umpires finger in cricket either, saying I'm out before he's had the chance to give her out
😂😂😂😂
Haha 😂
Has she ever invested? Or made any offer?
Is no one gonna mention the fact that the dude in the blue shirt totally sat back and chilled while his mate was getting GRILLED?!?!
Yeah he was a total waste of a Aussie space;)
He probably would have messed things up worse if he opened his mouth
Good for him.
White shirts the face blue shirts the brains
he was the designer so probably not his field, besides, you see a very small part of the pitch
Jenny: Guys, I'm going to tell you where I'm at with this
Don't worry Jenny. We know. We know..
Jenny hasn't actually got any money. She bluffed her way onto the show. That's why she never invests.
Nice work if you can get it.
Oh come on, you'd do the same if you could get away with it.
cashpoint queen
I don't think she will have bluffed anything at all. Dragon's Den will have a team of headhunters loooking for idle business tycoons to get on TV. They obviously also have certain social profiles to meet too, i.e. the Dragon's need to be mixed (rather than a panel of rich white gammons). Jenny ticks two boxes for a UK audience: "Northern" and "Female". And so they chose her.
no, but she's worth less than all of them and has no discernible skill-set.
The pun game and wordplay by the host is top class in the entire series. Give him a raise whoever is writing those puns.
That was the best I've seen from Jenny - she did some proper due diligence on the business using actual real world commercial sense. In a remarkable turn of events, I understand why she declared herself out.
Agree.
That is why she has a lot of money😊
I can't stand the way the "I'm out" lady speaks to people
@FantasticMrNick I was more just making a joke, if you notice her manner compared to the others it definitely comes across as rude to me
Imagine having her as your boss 🙉😭😂
They were misleading the dragons. She brought the numbers out. If you don't lìke that, you must hate Peter then, seeing how he's the rudest of them all.
@@dannayalmalik Big Jenny fan I see
@@assertivemayonaise Not sure how that counters the point I made, but okay I guess.
This product would also probably target the 'tough', 'I train everyday', 'I post shirtless pics on Instagram', 'I want to brag about myself' guy who would post the stats all over social media
Yeah, provided they solved a few of the other issues, with the right exposure on social media, I could see it possibly being a 'thing' for a while.
ella lol
And that guy's name is Chad
Woo hoo 4th reply in a year!
Can we just have one comment section that isn't entirely jenny comments?
No? Im out then
OwO
I'm out! :P
@Redblade *nuzzles*
@Redblade has got it.
@Redblade
It's is very, very tiresome.
7:50
Jenny : you gotta a lot of words guys but not many numbers
Entrepreneurs ( thinking) : you got a lot of questions but not any money
😂
If I ever start a business I’m just gonna watch all of these again and start the perfect one
Jenny is like a trainspotter she goes and watches,gets excited,makes a few notes,talks about this and that and then in the end walks away and comes back a week later and does the same thing again.
Love how excited Touker got when he got to play with the boxing stuff!
He thought he was Mohammed Ali
He doesn't get out of bed for 1.5% but he'll get out of his chair for any opportunity to play with the products lol.
Haha. Jenny asking for detailed financials as though she was going to invest.
Touker: "I want 40% of the business and, in return, I'll give you an office in central London, fly to China with you and, oh, you heard of time? I invented that. It's yours for 40%"
6:45 Jenny seeing how many languages she can write I'm Out
i laughed out loud
Same 😂😂😂
S'il vous plaît, ne vous moquez pas d'autres langues.Par exemple, ma langue française est linguistiquement belle et un jour, tout le monde parlera français
VENIR LA RÉVOLUTION!
Lmfaooo
@@Isleofskye mec t'es gênant.
I know this is a controversial “defending Jenny” comment but she actually had a point here. You can’t say you expect £300k gross profit but then say that assumes 100% of sales at £80, while admitting half of them will likely be at £45. It’s a bit silly.
Agreed. Terrible projections there.
No, no, don't distrupt the narrative. JENNY BAD.
Nah Jenny was spot on to mention that those kids came in totally unprepared with a terrible business
Yep, she was right. And for that reason, she's out.
Before watching the show. I knew, Jenny would say, I’m out!
You must be really smart!
I have never seen Jenny invest in anything 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Original punctuation as well.
@@RRVVWW73 lol,the one original thing
Plot twist, Jenny is bankrupt!
Jenny is so rude for someone who clearly has no interest in ever investing in anything. Glad they got rid of her. Waste of space
she is rude but her business is economic/money based business he cares about numbers and thats all she asked those questions as she was doing the maths shes just tight with her money and very good at maths
The boxer guy folded his arms very early on in the negotiation and that was a bit like playing Russian roulette imho.
Harold I noticed that. Bad move.
indeed - body language was all wrong - worst thing you can do in a professional situation is fold your arms - they even teach you this as a no-no in interviews
He folds his arms because he's not interested, or wants to take in the information he is receiving, it's largely financial information and that is not his language.
It's called the defensive approach
I don’t know if you notice but at 2:31 at about the same time he folds his arms his phone starts ringing in his pocket. The mic picks it up goes on for ages he must have been shitting himself but somehow they didn’t notice
10:15 Debora counting the seconds in which Jenny has to say “I’m out”
They should have got in the mma market. When I see a mma fight I would love to see the power level of the hits on my screen. That would be cool
Make the ring the device and put it on a jumbotron 😃😃😃
They did.
Props to the founders for having a resilient attitude.
Surely Peter knows that most tech products are made of components, physical or otherwise, owned by other companies
00:35 Guy in grey
"This is my moment, I'm gonna say my name.."
NOPE.
Jenny’s opening line: “guys let me tell you where I am?”
Erm let me guess.. your out
Jenny: guys let me tell you where I am.
Everyone on set: OUT!
Jenny: Guys let me tell you where I am....
Out, Jenny... where else would you be?
Jenny:
This product is a knockout, and for that pun I’m out.
Peter Jones always delivers the knockout blow
Can Dragons’ Den do a special with the most successful entrepreneurs from the Den sitting in the seats instead?
Good idea
There is actually very few...hardly any 'deals' get through. Kinda ruins it when you find out!
Don't disagree that there are some, just a high percentage of the deals don't complete. I would like to see programmes / interviews with those who have gone through the deals, good and bad.
Gotta think of how many of these people walk in throwing out bullshit numbers and lies. I bet half of them are not legit and do not work out.
Conversely, i’d like a special where the dragons are the ones pitching
Despite the fact that Jenny never invests, she does always have good line of questioning.
That's because she fighting desperately to find a good excuse to be OUT, the sheer terror in her eyes when the camera shifts her direction is laughable and entertaining haha
She doesn't most of the times... her asking any relevant questions is rare because her intentions are mostly about getting out!!! She is almost never that interested to ask good questions!
Elevator door opens...
Jenny: "And For That Reason, I'm out"
Apple doesn't make many of the components in a Mac. Companies can't do everything.
sammey1 I see where you’re coming from, but the likes of apple make much more complex devices than - in a nutshell - a pair of gyroscopic IoT sensors. If their whole company is solely focused on this one device, they could’ve maybe given it a crack (with that spare 200k lying about), or at least had a reason why they didn’t.
@@ItsEntirelyPossible1 if they'd gone through designing and manufacturing their own gyros it'd set them back by more than that £200,000 then the dragons would complain that they're in the red. When the business then grows it'd cost an inordinate amount to scale up production, so for simple cheap components that can be sourced literally anywhere (e.g. a gyro) it makes sense.
They marketed better than anyone. They own/owned the market.
Apple actually owns the manufacturers of their components so they technically do make them
@@mattmclean1307 nah mate they purchase their displays from Samsung, LG and some other Asian companies. None of which they own.
I'm just getting into the UK Dragons Den, I've always loved our Canadian version. Really loving Peter on this show.
I wish Canadian Dragon's Den would upload clips like this, I miss the days with Kevin and Robert!! I prefer them on DD to Shark Tank.
@@defundhollywood3259 Gotta agree with you there! 💯 I miss the days watching Canada's DD. So much better than today.
@@ClintScottFischer you love the double d?
There’s a similar product that works with a mirror and tracks your progress. At home tech-training is big right now and growing.
Jenny's first words as a baby.. 'I'm out'.
lolz good one!
Lmao...
Hahaha
Got to be true
Good product. They’re right in that the real value is not mainly in the hardware, but the algorithms and software. I just think they were new to business in general, and they came in to the Den at a very early stage of the product life. With no backing on how consumers like (aka sales volume) the product, it’s very hard to judge the business value.
The dragons made a mistake with this one. If one of the Dragons actually thought to work with and build this product, as an amateur boxer who hits the heavybag three times a week, I definitely would love to use it. Because, like they said, there's an app for cyclists, bodybuilders and runners, but not for boxers. And we love progress reports, they make us feel like we're building on something. Innovative and ingenius, such a shame they don't understand boxing and so don't understand the market. Any boxer would want this
but a big issue was that if it was successful - it would attract competition - thus taking away customers and greatly squeezing margins..
But like they said in the video, there aren’t enough serious boxers who’d want this to make the market big enough.
I think you can buy it.
Because it's absurd to compare this to cycling, running, bodybuilding etc.
It sounds ridiculous what Tej has said, but it's entirely true. If you really want a serious progress report, you go to your coach / trainer, at least if you're serious about it.
If you're an amateur, it probably doesn't matter that much, OR that it's just too expensive.
I mean, it's an entirely separate device. With running, cycling, bodybuilding etc. you can use your phone.
Cycling, running and walking apps are free that’s why so many people use them. Ask Strava how many people subscribe and how many people use the free version.
There absolutely is a psychological aspect to seeing your values increase before your eyes. For example, if you start boxing at a mere 25 pounds of force per punch, basically just throwing your shoulder into it, and you work your way up to 30, 35, 40, 50, 75... There's great satisfaction in seeing the improvement before your eyes. Otherwise it's simply _"I think I'm hitting harder?"_
All other Dragons: I'm out.
Taj: I would like to make you an offer
Every presenter ever: Ill go with Peter Jones
Whys jenny get so lippy she never invests anyway she should pipe down and hush her beak sit back and enjoy the water
How many businesses have you invested in?
how else will she find a reason to say she's out? gosh
Oh can you shut up
she is rude but her business is economic/money based business he cares about numbers and thats all she asked those questions as she was doing the maths shes just tight with her money and very good at maths
@@ipcressipcress7810 he isn't on a show as an investor, so..
@4:15 "What if it's an every day person like me, where my personal trainer comes to my mansion and does a bit of boxing in my full sized ring in the corner of my home gym..."
Oh, Peter's a really clever man... The important thing is to develop motion sensors and own that... Sensors can be bought from every tech factory in China. The value is in the softwere and the use of this in combination.
I’m sorry Tej but maybe you should invest in a better fitness trainer
And maybe realize everyone can’t afford a fitness trainer.
JENNY WENT UNCONSCIOUS LOOOOOOL
When Jenny goes to the states , she eats at In and Out Burger🍔😂
😥
Only takeout doe
Peter : How do you spell I’m out ?
Tukar : J E N N Y
Jenny: guys I like the product I’m.....
Guys: we are out
Jenny’s line of questioning: do you have any reasons for me to back out by any chance?
The guy on the left looked like he really wanted to speak
Don’t know how no one else has commented it yet but at 2:31 the guy on the right’s phone goes off and Keeps buzzing for a good while , I have headphones on so noticed it quickly. You can see it in his face 😂😂😂
I am pretty sure that Jenny's book is full of pages with "I'm out" wrote on them...
I’m out: “I didn’t ask you that, and that’s why I’m Jenny”
When the Dragon’s say things like ‘You’re not sure how you’re bringing this to market’, isn’t that part of the point of wanting a Dragon to invest and not someone who could just invest cash with zero business experience?
I think when they say that to people it means they don't want to baby a business with the effort and money that would be equivalent to running their own businesses. Having to sort out everything for a business I bet would just be hassle especially if the product isn't going to sell well. They got advice coming on the show anyway about what they missed or didn't have or what they need to do.
penntaia04 2019 👍🏼
Jenny was great here. Quickly shot down their misleading net profit projections.. gotta give her some credit
Awkward moment when the dudes phone is vibrating and Im scrambling in my bed trying to find my phone thinking its mine, only to realise that it was from this clip haha
How is every line of narration so perfectly punny? Love it!
You can say anything about Jenny but I loved how she put them in the corner and knocked them out with simple math. She didn't need any special software for this.
That's true. For all the jokes made about her, I think it all comes down to her being just a pretty conservative investor, especially compared to her peers. It's clear she puts heavy emphasis and importance about the finances and fundamentals of the business more so than just sheer potential. Makes sense for someone from the finance industry, I'd say.
That comment about getting a personal trainer had massive "let them eat cake" vibes.
I just read 30 comments...all had Jenny in them
and you're 32nd. LOL
And for that reason im out.
Only thing she's in.
Well done Jenny! I watched with interest as all the other Dragons listened attentively at Jenny's grilling of these very disorganised pair. Oh, the Jenny 'I'm out' jokes are hilarious, but in actual fact in series 15, she had the most number of successful deals than anyone. She was only one deal less than Peter Jones in series 16 and whilst the investing in the least number in series 16 she is not the worst Dragon investor out there. Conversely, I find Jenny Campbell very ethical and only willing to invest when she can only make a real difference, sincerely believes that the entrepreneurs and their business are worth investing in. In the unlikely event that I were to pitch in the Dragons' Den and receive an offer from Peter Jones, Deborah Meaden and Jenny Campbell, I'd accept Jenny's offer over the other two any day.
Well said! 👏 She’s a very discerning and disciplined investor.
Jenny has finally had the courage to scrutinise a product to make a right choice to say I'm out without the need of other dragons help for an excuse
The guy at the end had more puns then the narrator...
Wow the jenny bashing comments are becoming about as predictable as the woman herself.
... and for that reason, I'm out.
U can cut out them comments
I just went online to buy some and they are $300 and need membership - I thought I'd be getting them for £50 from this!😢
Boxer before he leaves quickly knocks Jenny out "Dont worry she's happier this way"
It's amazing how many people arrive without having worked out the basic numbers, do they even watch DD ?
That guy should have been a politician, he hides the truth, so well unless you're really trying to break him.
Seem to be doing ok. Trackers are retailing for 150, though going by the reviews the tech seems a bit hit and miss.
Tej Lalvani didn’t declare himself out.
These dragons are like investigators they know how to break you down to extract the information they need
For once, I am actually impressed with a product from this show
I thought the point about the boring screen was exactly right. And they don’t own the tech, so they can’t protect their product. They’re going to get knocked out.
it doesn't do anything useful
@@MrJamberee looks simple to digest and sleek to me
Honestly I had this exact idea 5 years ago when I was 17, but I thought it'd be cool to have more gamification
Is anyone else saving these videos to watch with food??
Ironically, the guy who doesn't box and didn't take damage to his head is the one who isn't talking and thinking.
Look at Debras little face light up like a Christmas tree when Peter steps up for a box... she definitely has a super soft spot for him...
Jenny's favourite Led Zeppelin album is "In through the out door".
something is messed up with the sound. there is a low frequency buzzing throughout the video that sounds like a phone in vibrate mode. annoying.
I wonder honestly, how many times you see Peter Jones ask them
"do you own the full patent?"
Hoping for people to say no, so then as soon as the show is over, he can make a few phone calls and roll out the same product with all his networking power behind it.
Its just clicked with me, that sometimes when he doesn't invest in things he could be doing that,
Bill Gates, Richard Brandon, Alan Sugar, Steve Jobs - all do/and did that.
I would do that if I was in his position. Common sense really....
Why invest when you could steal the idea and do it 10x more effectively and then own 100%.
Crazy how the exchanges on this clip made me realise this could well be a reality...
You couldn't ever sue anyone that powerful even if it did happen.
Like in an interview when they are not going to employ you but ask you for ideas as to how their Company and processes could be improved......
Its taking off, they are multi-millionaires now.
Jenny's house phone rings
Jennys voicemail: Plz ring later, I'm out.