Grocery Shop Challenge: Chef vs Normals | Sorted Food
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Get ready for some epic midweek meal inspiration as our Chef, Ebbers shows the normals how to utilize a single grocery shop to its full potential! This episode is packed full of incredible tips and tricks to get you cooking with confidence!
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I don’t think Ben has ever lived up to his title of Chef as resoundingly and resolutely as in this challenge. That was incredible.
It was truly incredible and satisfying to watch Ben cook these dishes! I love watching him cook.
Agreed, 120% Ben was AMAZING!!
Man was on point
I think Ben is a genius
The only thing is the smugness at the end, but it sounded well deserved.
finally, someone addressed the problem of huge amounts of dirty dishes they make whenever they cook.
I am going to make that rice dish tomorrow. looks easy and tasty.
I hated that trend a couple of years ago "super quick and easy meal!" and then you're left with 20 dishes to wash out.
i think it's the problem of "capacity creates need". if they didn't have 324082304 pots and pans available to use, they'd just rinse one out and reuse it, but as it is they just use a clean one, thinking "dishes are a problem for future me" (or in this case, whoever the poor person is who has to clear the set after shoots)
@@Erdnussbuttertoast Maybe a challenge involving a few set utensils and cooking vessels are in order. Unless they already did that before I started watching.
@@Erdnussbuttertoast that is why i proposed a "one pot challenge" many months ago. Cook what ever you want but only use one pot. Cooking at home like a professional cook in 5 pans and 2 ovens is nice, but i dont have an underpaid asian or eastern european to clean up after me .
I made it yesterday, it was very simple and you will not be disappointed!
there are times I think the normals are closer to being chef's these days, then Ben does this and you realize the difference, those dishes looked incredible.
just a shame the first two dishes were not tasted while hot
Bens Creativity shows why he is a Chef... this was INSANE especially the third Dish! God i wish i could taste it :D
It's not really creativity. It's just a basic understanding of what works with what, based on experience and understanding of flavours
I must admit I do think pickled blackberries was a nice touch though
I know right, his creativity is just straight up amazing. No cap
Yep, the way he whips up a dish, in a shorter amount of time, plus not using a ton of pans or pots. Very cool.
All 3 dishes seem lovely😋
@@suzawilo Good thing it showed us how to make it cause that is what I'm buying in my next paycheck :)
The level of intrigued confusion when Ben put raw rice, coconut milk, and an undrained tin of beans on a tray is one of the things I'm here for! I love seeing things I would never have thought of (with the most minimal washing up for my lazy self).
The same, I was "wait what is he doing"
Me too!!! I’m like no way that’s not enough liquid to cook the rice! I’m certainly going to give that a try!
I think I’m going to put one of my silicon mats under it to assist in washing up but it looks really interesting.
He's done this before with one or two recipes years ago which is on the channel I believe. I think he did a thai roast chicken with coconut milk tray bake and also a jerk chicken tray bake with coconut milk and rice.
It brought back memories of an Uncle Roger episode where a lady tried to cook egg fried rice with uncooked rice. I was like 😮 when Ben put uncooked rice into the pan. Then, he explained it and I thought, "Okay, that might have enough liquid to work."
“I could just serve boiled potatoes.”
That sounds like every Dutch mother around dinnertime. 😂
It's funny, 'cause it's true! 😂
with a meatball and veggie and to much gravy hahahhahaha to dutch
And that’s why I never spend more than half an hour cooking!
@@gabrielle6463 Yep. That’s the dish! Gravy from a packet off course and my mum used to boil the veggies for about twice as long as she should have. 😂
En nét te weinig jus
Every now and then Ben hits me over the head with how goddamn good he is at his job. Not only being a banging chef, but hosting a video succinctly at the same time. Bravo Ben!
I literally made Ben's rice dish as soon as I finished the video. Can confirm that it's awesome!!
I'm so lazy so love any hack that means I can dump everything into one pan and just walk away whilst it cooks..
In the spirit of the challenge, I used whatever I had that needed to be eaten - so I substituted chicken for the paneer, chickpeas for the beans and added sprouts and broccoli. The lime is ESSENTIAL though!
Happy cooking everyone!
Genius! Always swap out what you have but keep the fundamentals the same.
my first thought when seeing that dish: i need to make this!
I am gonna make the rice recipe next week but am gonna use chicken and a firm cheese that I can get cause the paneer can be hard for me to get. I am thinking Panella or halloumi.
Oh that would also be good if I make hummus. I find a full can of chickpeas is sort of too much hummus. Throw the other half in here
I did this and replaced the paneer with homemade meatballs and the chickpeas with cauliflower, also worked really well. But i should have used some more liquid to get the rice perfect.
I love how these are always called Chef vs Normals but it really just turns into everybody complimenting each other on their dishes
We have been friends for a very long time now 😂
They are also hardly "normals" at this point. The evolution of their cooking skills over the years have been spectacular.
It really should be called "classically trained chef vs talented home taught chefs"
@@TheGdawgs755 are they? I personally think they’ve become better home cooks just like most people would by cooking more often and picking up a few skills along the way.
When I compare how I used to cook as an 18-year-old (mainly me setting the pans on fire) to how I cook now (semi-skilled when I make certain dishes and not afraid to attempt something new, rarely burning stuff) the difference is just like the difference in the normals.
@@Anna-uh3jq I don't think most people cook as much as they do. I know my family certainly didn't. With going out or fast food. Their food knowledge and culinary skills are much much higher than the average normal I think is safe to say.
@@TheGdawgs755 100% if we follow the overall average
This format is really interesting. I love content where everyone uses the same things and get different results. I also love things where the normals get to work together instead of battling and trying to mess each other up. There is a certain dynamic and stuff to doing their own thing AND brainstorming, rather than actively battling or organizing as a team to a common goal.
Also Ben making them all look like punks by using everything and have almost zero dishes. Lmao
Barry: Less washing up is so vital mid-week.
Also Barry: Uses absolutely every pot, pan and tray in the kitchen to make his meal
This was your most educational video yet! Seeing the comparison of how differently AND faster Ben handled these same ingredients will save me so much cooking time and wasted leftovers. Please make a series out of this!! :)
This feels like Classic Sorted and I love it.
Woohoo 🥳
I love watching Ben cook! He's so calm, focused and efficient in the kitchen.
Agreed! He is a true inspiration (AND a great teacher).
Literally every time Ben cooks I get so excited to see what little tricks and tips he’s gonna use…why am i attracted to a well maintained and organized man in the kitchen?
Because you’re messy and unorganised?
Because its a well organized man in the kitchen
Because it is rare to see?
The question is: How could anyone not be?
Ben absolutely schooled the normals and I love that they're just in awe of his process.
Quote of the Day: “There’s bound to be cheffiness, normalness, panickyness and hopefully, some usefulness.”
You know by this he’s aware o the comments 😂
I love how Barry’s eyes glaze over if Ebbers speaks for more than 10 seconds.
Awks 😂
The fact the Jamie didn't automatically think nachos was actually a genuine surprise 😂
I'm actually making Ebbers' set of dishes this week with the meal packs app. I've made two of the three dishes and they have tasted SO GOOD. Well done Ebbers!
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Mike: “Do they taste good?”
Jamie and Barry, in unison: “I DON’T KNOW.”
Mike: “Neither do I!”
Meanwhile, the SortedFood Community: “Ummmm isn’t this level of uncertainty is what we’re here for?”
I've come to the conclusion that they have begun botching elements and acting as fools on purpose in order to avoid having people like me cease watching their videos. I argue that they are no longer normals. I like watching 'normals' get judged harshly and steadily improve; it gives me a chance to learn new things. I've ceased having learning experiences from all the cast, except Ben, and now that James is gone the level of derision directed is far less than what it was. He saw what was happening. The channel is dead.
@@christopherkarr1872 lol, we'll see.
Ummmm isn’t this level of uncertainty are what we’re here for?
"That's six plates of food!"
"Yay!"
"Does it taste good?"
"I don't know!"
Love the enthusiasm!!!
Also, Ben, you knocked this out of the park on this one.
Those blackberries sounds almost like lingonberry in that they are a little sour and tart with some freshness! Very interesting how the chef vs normals did in this challenge!
That's what I was thinking as well. I love lingonberry and though they're not the same, blackberries are a good substitute.
"It's what you did, but better" 🤣 Ebbers definitely brought the cheffiness
Ben "going in dry" I just wanted to see Jamies face after he said that!!!
This episode got me thinking. I used to play ‘Ready, Steady, Cook!’ with my mates where they would turn up with a bag of ingredients and we’d see what we could create. Sounds like it is a skill the normals need to practice.
Loved this so much, aiming for no food waste is brilliant and the meals looked epic! I would love to know how much the bag of ingredients cost, and how much the 'normals' may have wasted. I think that would help put into context how good it is to use everything.
I would love to see Ben go first next time to see how much of this logistics planning he can do on the spot! Would be so fun!
I'm glad Ben finally mentioned it, coz every "midweek" challenge, they always use so many pots and pans and bowls to come up with a dish. Two pans is already pushing it for me, for a quick lunch
Ben never fails to impress me with how far he can take a few ingredients and how smart he can be while doing it
New episode idea: Pass it on with each person cooking a course out of a 4 course dinner, but the next person has to incorporate the previous person's leftover ingredients.
Loving this concept even before I’ve watched it… not just the ‘shopping bag’ challenge - but seeing the Normals do it first, then hearing Ben’s thought processes re how he would approach it - but in the same video. Also love the continued focus on teamwork.
Currently on a 15 minute break on a 12 hour shift… perfect break, sorted!
Enjoy your break 😂
love how the boys are so reluctant to praise Ebbers but just couldn't help applaud him. He's a genius tbf
I LOVE this format. As fun and wonderfully chaotic the Pass It On and Ultimate Battle videos are, I really missed the kinds of videos where the cooking is at the forefront. Not only was it fun to watch, but highly educational. So we, as the viewer, get both entertained and learn something! Also letting Ben's credentials as a chef shine was amazing. Please do more of these videos!
I do like these "Boys vs Ben" episodes
I love watching you guys, hubby and I sit at my desk watching your older shows while we eat dinner every night, gives me inspiration to do better for the next meal, but I never do! Especially love Jamie, reminds me of my son, hugs to you all and Merry Christmas x
That’s so lovely to hear - Merry Christmas x
I genuinely really enjoy the focus on not wasting ingredients and having minimal dishes. That's the sort of stuff that'll help people get into cooking.
Ben (and I'm assuming the food team) absolutely knocked this outta the park. All of those looked amazing, simple, and satisfying. Would love more combo-meal-ingredient type videos to help reduce food waste, they're so helpful for couples
The blackberries on the mash and meatballs looks very similar to the lingonberry jam typically eaten with meatballs in sweden.
With blackberries tasting sweet, tangy, tart and sour - I believe that they'll actually be a fairly reasonable substitute for lingonberries. While it's a completely different thing, with a completely different taste, they fulfill the very same role, and to me, that is what a substitute should aim to do while cooking.
yeah can confirm as an Icelander, we often subsitute the lingon berry jam for rhubarb jam though. We even have rhubarb jam with schnitzel
Heh yeah, as a Finn (another country where lingonberry jam is a staple) the whole "pickled blackberries" thing didn't feel weird at all, especially when served with meatballs :)
paneer bhurji(scrambled paneer with onion and tomato, spices and garnished with cilantro) would also be possible with the ingredients, and could go as a dip/topping with the chips. A khichdi(spiced rice porrdge) can be made using the beans and root vegetables. The bell pepper can also be made into a chutney, or fried along with potatoes to form a side dish
:)
Sometimes it's easy to just think Ben is an adorable, innuendo-stuffed sausage. Videos like this remind us just how TALENTED he is. Wow Ebbers!
I love it when the normals work together to cook like this as a team, its so much fun to watch them just work together rather than against each other all the time!
Don't feel bad about using recipes / buying more food! The more techniques you acquire from recipes lead to being able to whip up midweek meals from whatever's available :)
I read grocery shop challenge and was secretly hoping for some frantic shopping 1-minute-free-shopping style and for Baz to get overwhelmed by the budget (or lack of).
I however already love this new format. 😉
Brilliant - good to hear!
That blooper at the end was a genuinely excellent joke from Baz.
The only question I have at the end of that was how much roughly the bag would have cost? This was such as interesting video and really cool to see the packs idea in practice. Its really tempted me over to picking it up if its within the budget
I don't know UK prices, and area would depend as well, but realistically the most expensive parts were the beef, blackberries, and avocado. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was bought for 30gbp, which for 6 portions of food is a fivver each which I would think is dang good.
@@joshuadalton6063 depending on the time of year, blackberries could be the cheapest thing there! I know of plenty places I can go to find blackberries growing just out in the open near me hahah
@@joshuadalton6063 $5 a portion is quite pricy for homecooking though. It would need to be somewhere around 2-3 to be realistically viable for most people.
@@HeratoshiZZ Depends on your country I guess, but for UK 5 per portion, family of 4 is 7300GBP a year on dinner food. Add simple cereal and sandwiches for breaky/lunch for another 2, and that is 10k/yr or 200/week. Which is definitely going to be out of reach for the working poor, but for the average middle class family with 2 incomes, this is damn healthy and well balanced and in reach. If you've seen some of their budget meal battles, there are definitely ways this particular set of ingredients could be done probably for half the price with just a few changes.
@@joshuadalton6063 I'm British and at least for my area that bag of ingredients would come to between £15-20 depending on the supermarket you shopped at and I you needed to buy rice or oil that shop. So actually a better price than you calculated for, though I don't know about where you're from but here "the working poor" is a bit impolite and old fashioned. Kinda makes you sound like a character from a Dickens novel. Working class or even poor people are what people usually say.
I'd honestly be happy with any of those first 3 on a weekday for the first array even. Good job, boys.
Glad you enjoyed the episode 😁
i’ve been watching sorted for years, and i’ve gotta say, this is my favourite episode. it’s practical AND entertaining
PLEASE keep making these
I love a dish where you can just dump everything in together and relax until it's done. As someone with a disability, it's very hard for me to make something that you have to constantly watch, mess with, or baby. Anything I can do where I do the bulk of the work in one go and then let it be, I'm all for. On my good days, I do love to cook fancier, more involved dishes (mac and cheese, lasagna, frittata, etc.) but most of the time it's either something you can do quickly, or something you can set and forget.
As a chef ive only found this channel in the last month, but Ebbers is a boss in this episode.
While I love this, I'm also super excited to see Ben and Baz react to the KoreanEnglishman's toast next week!
Very exciting! We love those guys 😁
The Spaff is making Paneer Tikka with Peas Pulao? Nice!
I adore it when Ebbers flexes on the guys and just blows their minds. Like, they all know he's good at what he does, and then he pulls a "Hold on to your butts" move and just knocks it outta the park.
"Going in dry" love the editing on it, and the response of jamie ofcourse.
I'm always fascinated what people consider a midweek meal, I personally couldn't do anything like this in 30 minutes :D
I think you're underestimating yourself.
Not even the tray bake? You can't throw 6 things on a tray?
I agree. I take more time when washing vegetables and cutting them then arranging on a tray to roast.
@@Lillith. not really, I cook almost daily and I always take more than 30 mins to make food. Comes down to practice Id say ^^
@@DimT670 I never made a tray bake, didn't know that was a thing, I'll definitely try something like this in the future. You made one before?
Jamie being cautious not to offend any culture with his remarks since the Spaniards Paella incident is mood
Paella burrito will forever haunt them; don't know why, as someone form Northern Mexico, the idea of anything being a burrito is completely legal and accepted.
@@TheRatedOniChannel For Valencians, the idea of anything being paella is anathema
Perhaps an odd thing to notice, but the mixing in this vid is excellent.
Major props to the whomever is handling the audio, every facet of this channel is consistently improving.
I liked the dishes of the normals, 'cause the resemble what I normally cook. I liked Ben's dishes 'cause that's what I'd like to cook! 😃
That last dish Ben made was so smart and looks so friggin good 🤤
I've been gone for a minute and just have to say that I'm loving the new kitchen design.
Mike and Barry really hit the “cleaning out the fridge” vibe, didn’t they ?
always love your vids but for me, this is the most helpful one you've posted in ages! really inspiring ideas to use up all those ingredients, would love to see more in this style :)
The lime tip is great; Ben's suggestion to cut through the diameter instead of the poles *seems* obvious to me, but some might go long-ways, thinking that exposing more surface area is better. It's like an orange, though - there are segments and partitions, so you need to cut them all to get the juice.
Do you know what a humblebrag is?
Always done diameter as well; not because I put any thought into it, but because it's how my father did it when he cooked! It does make a tremendous amount of sense if you consider it.
I didn't even know lengthwise was a thing. Just feels more comfortable to cut through the diameter. Also roll your lemon/lime a little before cutting to make juicing easier.
@@marjolein6609 I don't; would you humbly enlighten me? I'm planning on learning what sarcasm is tomorrow. :D
I haven't seen this huge gap of skills between Ben and the normals for a looooong time. And I love it.
I'd love a series where Ebbers just deep dives on a single recipe for 20 minutes.
History of the dish, why certain ingredients were used traditionally, why he's adding ingredients in the order he is, what kind of varieties the dish has etc. Embrace the super geek
Props to you guys for coming up with six yummy dishes! With all those ingredients (except the beef, I'm vegetarian) I would have made a great coconut milk pulao or pilaf with some paneer for the protein, and a Raita with the avocado, coriander and lime, chilli and sour cream. Pulao is easy, just throw things into the pot, season to taste and wait for it to cook. Simple, one pot wholesome meal, packed full of flavour and nutrition! Perfect mid week comfort food.
I genuinely love cooking with "leftover" ingredients. Just taking your time and thinking about what new dishes you can create is a lot of fun. Actually having a fully stocked fridge is a bit overwhelming for me personally and I try to use ingredients in order of what could spoil first.
This challenge is awesome to watch.
At this point Ben is just flexing on the guys. "Oh you got some badges now huh!? Better Chef it up a notch then".
Now the talent from the normals and the chef were on another level of awesomeness guys - absolutely applaud you all
Seriously loved this episode, thank you guys for making a video about sustainability and avoiding food waste!
I’m falling in love with Ben’s mind, boundless creativity and amazing skills!!!
By the way, that’s an incredible way to promote your App. I’m so very tempted to get it. My only concern is that it might include many ingredients I cannot find in my country.
I love battles but also love when the three normals are in it together and cheering each other on 😊
I LOVE this format. I really like the normals, don’t get me wrong, but the videos where Ben just cooks alone are sooooo good.
This is an awesome idea!! Love this format, and hoping there's more in the future!
Been watching you boys for years now. Literally one of my favorite youtube channels. However, I rarely comment. But I love this video! One of the best one's I've seen in awhile. It shows off what your Packs App is really capable of. As a "challenge" though, I think it'd be more fair if Ben also was kept in the dark as to what the ingredients were so he couldn't start thinking in advance, because it's not really a "challenge" of Chef vs Normals is it? But I love this format and I love seeing you guys doing more instructional cooking videos. Yes, you have hundreds in your backlog. But THIS is what we're here for too, not just the challenges and competitions.
I love not only how amazingly Ben did this challenge, but how in awe the other boys were over his dishes. That was so cool!
I loved how Ben cleaned as he went and used minimal equipment and pots/pans. My best kitchen hack is to wash, dry and put away my knives as soon as I'm done with them; and if possible to clean the fry pan or any cast iron cookware before eating (if it's not still full of food). It only takes a minute or two and they can go back in the still-hot oven, or on a still-warm element, to dry off from the residual heat. Getting some of the big pots or pans out of the way quickly really reduces the mental load of the cleaning up after you've eaten.
As a South Asian, I was aghast at the fact that the rice grains weren’t soaked first. It has left me SHOOKETH.
Id say, even midweek, rinsing and soaking basmati before you leave for work, so you have soaked rice when you get back, will get you much better texture and portion size for the same amount of grains in the evening. Also, basmati just tastes better soaked and rinsed, the surface starch is usually badly oxidised and goes slimy in the water.
This is a really cool challenge. It's not as chaotic as PIO, but it's also got really solid learning elements to it. It forces the guys to make a number of different meals with only a little thought, and then Ben to really pull out all the education to try and limit waste.
Love it.
I was mesmerized by all of the ingredients disappearing into Ben's dishes with no waste and hardly any dishes. I'd love to see another episode on how you would deal with these things. No food waste = great. Not overspending and less grocery runs by making groceries last = also great. P.S. more vegetables please! bring on the mustard greens ;)
The good chaos is so wonderful!
Haha, so glad you enjoy it!
Came up on my break. Perfect timing. 😆
It’s great when that happens 😁
I love that you show us how to use the entire content of your bag so there is no waste!!
Dear God, that was so impressive. I mean the normals did such a great job in making the dishes looking delicious and appealing. And then Ben knocks it out of the park with simple planning, a reservoir of knowledge and years of experience!
I love ideas of what to do with leftover ingredients. That salsa that Ben made looks delicious, although wouldn't call it that, to me it looks more like pico de gallo, at least that's what we call it in the part of Mexico I'm from.
I think it is closer to salsa tatemada, I always think of pico de gallo to more raw onions and tomatoes.
@@TheRatedOniChannel true, I forgot about that, the variety is so much it's easy for me to forget.
Pico de gallo is a salsa
The meatball dish was strongly reminiscent of some of the food I had in Sweden, but of course they would often use lingonberries. They also love pickled red onion and pickled red cabbage as I recall.
I could watch Ben do this challenge 100 times. Such an incredible thing to watch
The Ebbers flex is real this video. I felt a bit bad for the boys.
Could you do a video of christmas dinner on a budget? I think it would be good to watch and could be useful for people without a huge budget for christmas dinner
Just a quick question, at 11:55 ben talks about a can of chickpeas but unless i'm completely crazy that looks more like butterbeans? figured i'd try to make this myself and was just slightly confused also which stock cube u recon would go best with it? alternatively would i be able to find the recipe on the meal packs app?
I think either veg or chicken if you eat meat. And I think he was saying it's the same principal as chickpeas with the butter beans.
It was triple threat last week that was all of Bens dishes. And that recipe called for a veg cube and yes they were butter beans.
It is butterbeans yes, but aquafaba can pretty much be from any cans of beans. He mentioned the chickpeas because he's used aquafaba from chickpeas before to make a meringue if I remember correctly
he only mentioned it because people usually drain water from beans they buy in store and he didn't drain them and put it in to cook the rice
This is like pass it on, mystery box and beat the chef all in one! I’d say that’s a perfect video
I started watching Sorted for the banter and laughs but I absolutely stay for Ben and his teaching. He's just so effortless as an instructor.
This video has really inspired me to look at getting the meal packs subscription, but I'm vegan. Is there any option for plant-based meals or recommended adjustments to the recipes that are already on there? Love what you all do, really made me think about my own mid-week cooking and how to cut down on washing up and food waste.
I'm vegetarian + don't cook with dairy, and have the meals packs app: half the packs you can pick from each week are vegetarian (ie: three), and I always feel like I have a decent amount of choice. That's veggie though, not vegan, so a lot of those recipes do have eggs / dairy etc. in them, but- of those I've been able to select recipes I like that either lack dairy, or it's easy enough to just leave it out or sub it for something. The meal packs also have a "recommended twists" section at the bottom, which sometimes offer advice on how to make something vegan. I don't use the app too often though, so if you're looking for more regular vegan recipes, you might feel a little let down. But I'd say it'd definitely be worth trying out the free month trial, and seeing what you're able to make of the veggie packs!
@@felikso Amazing, thank you so much for sharing that! Might give the trial a go and see if it works for me :-)
I saw the ingredients and thought of loaded potatoes!!! Gotta love loaded potatoes. Then realized thats a bit tooo basic for youtube 😂 So cant wait to see what the "normals" and ben can cook up.
Loaded potatoes are great for anytime of the day 😁
For a while, it felt like we hardly saw videos where Ben actually cooked. So glad that these days the videos let his talents shine (as well as give us a good dose of the boys being cheeky and having fun).
Jamie’s slight eyebrow raise at 6:40 when Ben said “going in dry” just killed me hahaha
Honest question: I have a roommate who's incredibly allergic to bell peppers, which got me thinking: do you have the ability to filter out recipes by allergen?
as someone who's recently finding out allergies to some fruit, i'd love to know the answer to this too!
Allergic to mushrooms and a few others... really want to know. Thanks for asking
if they are allergic to bell peppers, you can try subbing that ingredient with something else, like celery, radishes, cauliflower or the stems of swiss chard and still do the same recipe (maybe!)
Just omit it. Duh.
Just leave those nasty bell peppers out of every dish. They can ruin a meal.