FAST Mini Bike Engine Swap!
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2015
- We did it! We swapped the 6.5 hp Predator in this mini bike and now it is very fast. If you have this mini bike and want to go fast, don't bother modifying the existing motor, just go ahead and do a Predator swap. It was a pretty straightforward and simple swap and was well worth it.
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It is scarily fast now! What should we do next?
Do a updated Mini Bike VS. Go Kart race!
He's right do another race!
80cc on a razor scooter
Me and my dad are probably making a mini chopper may be u should check those out
Find an old cheap car and build it up like ROADKILL!
Lol, just found this great little throwback, what a gem!
>marketed to kids
>adults use them more
Still love these little things
Ikr I was coming to get one and this guy was loading the last one in his truck with a predator
Heck I’m a kid and would kill for one of these beasts, but I can’t afford it and my parents say these are crappy bikes which I know is bs
@@am0804 most of the random no-brand ones are.
This is another channel I watch pretty much just because I think the guys on the channel would be really fun to hang out with and pal around with in real life. The mechanic guy, Ike, in addition to being a great mechanic, is absolutely hilarious. And his "good ol' boy" southern accent is great. I love the content on the channel, but the personalities on it absolutely make it.
+Raycefan Thank you!
can u please put a link to all of the parts u used for the build
he sounds like hank hill
+CarsandCameras I live in spokane, you said you're in Washington. Are you the guys running around at 1am?!?
Raycefan everyone on RUclips lives in washington
I have the same bike and engine. If you want to do this mod, my advice is to grind the front oil drain bolt down. It makes the installation of the engine much easier.
I remember when you guys were so pleased with 6.5 HP. If only everybody could be like that. I know I’m not.
me: watching this video as a tutorial to build my own lol
I had a 9hp Wisconsin motor off a cement mixer on my mini bike when I was young. Literally had no brakes
DANNNNNG I love seeing the transformation from your old videos to the new ones. Always fun looking back on the older vids.
Ike looks like Finnegan from Roadkill mixed with the Mechanical Stig from MCM.
+James Varner Not a bad mix...
+James Varner ill take that as a complement . lol
haha
+James Varner thats because he is
Megafons How did I not notice sooner? lol
I've been watching since this video came out. It's like watching the Hobbit before they embarked on their adventure.
It’s so funny rewatching these old episodes, how young you guys were.
Put the 80cc engine on a bicycle.
Lol
Sam Young it won’t fit
@@Erik0824 80 cc is a kids toy you want atleast 200
ghost Unix yea I have a predetor 212 myself
@@Erik0824 Yes well I am hoping predator will start selling full bikes and integrates a easily removed govener to get around what ever law requires it.
Thanks for this entertaining engine swap. I laughed as much as you guys when you got it fired up and popped those wheelies.
Bikes & Drones it was our pleasure. im shure we will have more videos to make you laugh.
I put a 6.5 on a doodlebug minibike. Wears out tires quick and you gotta lean forward a bit to keep the front end down but it’s awesome!!!
You should put the predator V-twin 670cc engine in it
AceRex that engine is as big as the bike
That the awesome thing about it :D
CelfBanditten it won’t fit
CelfBanditten how the fuck could you do that
@@colinbird264 start with a welder
The 2.5 horsepower engine reminds me of vtec. Once it gets to a certain rpm it really goes
Pizza Sub you’re right ,we had one and the damn thing kept reviving and pulling away against our bigger engines ,we couldn’t keep up was it got up to speed
Man reversing the clutch is genius. Thanks guys you saved me a huge headache. Love your channel. Keep the great vids coming
No it's not it's what you have to do
i remember as a kid and racing minibikes at the Saddleback Motorcycle Park in Santiago Canyon, Southern California. I was sponsored and raced for " The Hawk " Racing Team. I rode a modified Zebra Mini Bike, with a 6 horse Techumshe motor punched out with a mikuni 26 carburetor running nitro methane using a torque convertor putting 12 horse to the rear wheel. I was clocked at speeds in access of 60 to 70 miles per hour. Those were the day's.
+Jimmy Jones nice
My dad would always talk about Saddleback and it sounds like pipe dreams when you hear about it because nothing like that exists in California anymore
its amazing to see how much things have changed
Great channel guys. Been watching for a good while now and am always smiling when I do. :)
your girlfriend looks so bored xD
She is
I’d keep her busy
I’ve watched this one too many times this is what made me start watching cars and cameras I believe
Any body else watching this in 2019
no
Absolutely
WTF am I seeing? and Is he still with her?
I'm watching it in 2024
They are like Tim and Al on first episode of Tool Time. Now John has beard and Ike doesn't.
I wish I were here for the humble beginnings! I just picked up this same exact mini bike and found out my favorite RUclips crew had some projects with it as well!
Who else is watching this in 2023
2024
Yep. 2024. Lol.
That's incredible!)))
3:13 - so like when Jackie is around.... all the guys start actually working trying to show off and swaps get done in 10 minutes... Jackie deserves a raise.
I am sure there is one in her future.
You guys have been a big inspiration for me with my mini bike and start with small motors 👌🏻
I did this conversion with a co-worker about 7 years ago and it was ridiculously fast even with the restriction on. Not stable, and easy to crash, and we left the stock brakes on. I took it for a spin, and it was wild. Just holding on the handlebars tightly can get you into trouble as you twist the throttle, because the pull of the bike makes you twist the throttle harder :)
The best upgrade to life in general is a Predator swap!! I was barely able to fit mine into my 1970 El Tigre (thats what she said). The gas cap is about 3/4" from the frame and the spark plug boot is about 1/4" from the frame.. I also had to modify and flip the exhaust manifold and make it run outboard because it wouldnt clear my sloping rear framerails. Somehow I made it fit and its nothing but pure joy! With 6:1 ratio gearing, the front wheel just wants to stay in the air and thats how I like it :).
How about selling me that chevy in the background 😁I'm like !!👍🏻
Yeah sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the Chevy
Yea sell me the chevy
Yeah sell me the chevy
Y’all have come so far. It’s wild.
man.....re watching this in 2019, pretty crazy to see your guy's reaction to those first wheelies....back then, a stock 212 was FAST! A lot has changed since then haha
Yeah
14:44 anybody else see that tiger jump on the house between their shoulders?
Why hello there
Hey I know you!
Yo I love your channel and ur new 250 well not realy new but yea
ZACK YOUR MY FAVOURITE RUclipsR
Omg zackgoes I love you channel
Where are my 2020 viewers?
2021!
I enjoyed this. Thanks for the Monster Moto install- gives me an idea of fitment , since I just picked up two.
And here I thought you guys were just for entertainment purposes only LOL
I blew up my stock motor just before Easter, and I just got my predator 212 today. I'm so excited!!
Anyone looking for predator motors in Australia. They are called "Rato" engines. They are exactly the same as the predator engines. The 6.5 hp is $240
Lmao!!!! You see him fly buy then.Dude are u alright 😂😂
Haven't watched you guys in ages. Miss you bros!
I needed this video! Need to replace same 80cc engine. Thanx guys!
1:55 hes test runnin the engine
now yall need a doodle bug with a 420cc
watching in 2020... you guys have come a long way
S/O Cars&Camera's I watch every video y'all put up I'm doing a 212cc motor on mines soon ...wish me luck
could yall do a tutorial on how to install the motor?
It’s kinda common sense just bolt the think on the vehicle then but a clutch on it
remove the 4 mounting bolts holding the current motor on, unhook the chain, throttle cable and killswitch cable, engine should slide right out, and then basically do all those steps in reverse when putting the 212 on lol
I was wondering the same thing thank you all
you guys are awesome LMFAO
Awesome video! I just bought a motovox with a Subaru 6.5 with the governor removed. It has a regular centrifugal clutch but has a lot of torque. I've had it about a week and wrecked it 4 times. I popped a wheelie and it threw me off the back. My neighbor is an old lady and she was in her driveway looking at me like wtf! I just said hey neighbor and smiled and waved. Lol.
I was wondering if you had the part numbers for the different clutch and chain used...it would be great if you had a list of all parts needed for swap. Thanks
billyseanyoo Clutch: www.amazon.com/kart-Mini-Bike-Clutch-chain/dp/B00070JJZU/ref=asc_df_B00070JJZU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309806291903&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15365549610820850625&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-571447405618&psc=1
Chain: www.amazon.com/Roller-Chain-Feet-Connecting-Links/dp/B018WFTJCY/ref=asc_df_B018WFTJCY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198082163421&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1712929284237699433&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-384949906221&psc=1
Engine: www.harborfreight.com/65-hp-212cc-ohv-horizontal-shaft-gas-engine-epa-69730.
Tool to cut chain: www.amazon.com/Roller-Chain-Detacher-Breaker-Cutter/dp/B06XQDXW78/ref=asc_df_B06XQDXW78/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=246707620933&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13464725342958140896&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008062&hvtargid=pla-473346809679&psc=1
6:21 Sounds just like a stoned giggle.
Where did you pick up the new clutch and chain?
patdonovan85 I just picked up a moto 80 mini bike and I want to put a 212 predator on it what Clutch and size chain do I need to complete the upgrade build
Jamaul Mullins did you find an answer?
I've been subbed for years and its my first time watching this video... classic its the baseline for everyone
My son and I are doing this very thing this weekend! Cant wait to ride it
Dam this is an old one 😂😂
make a home made 3 wheeler
Your old videos are super funny!!!
pretty badass how far you guys have come lol
Lol I'm putting a bbc in a vega wagon 😂
+Alex Paish i also have a vega wagon a 1976. gonna small block it
My friend has a 212 swapped mega moto with no brakes 😂
LØx Shansway damn that dangerous bro 😂😂
It’s fun in the snow 😂😂😂
lol my brother has a dirtbug and it has no brakes and i came around the corner and hit his dog the dogs fine though
Anyway to get a parts list (mainly the different clutch used). I`m upgrading my sons monster moto and it would sure help..Gr8 Build, Gr8 Vid Thanks for the help...Take Care
The fun thing for me is I'm about to put that same motor on my mini bike and after seeing this I can't wait! Currently my mini bike has a bone stock 97cc on it(which is actually pretty fast as it can take me almost 28 mph) but I don't think it will compare at all to this new beast!!
I recently purchased a predator and put it on my mini baja. There is a lot random rattling noise. Do you experience the same thing?. Also I have a comet tav2-30 torque converter and we put it on and something isn't right. I accelerate but then I don't really go fast at all. Also the throttle is super weird and I don't know why. It doesn't spring back and when you push it back and forth from the throttle itself its not smooth. Idk what to do about torque converter and idk if it's not for the 212.
EliteBoxer92 at 9.16 does it make a rattle like that?
yeah kinda I made sure the engine mount bolts were really tight and that might have done the trick. I have another question. the video where you guys put the torque converter on the go kart... the link in the description to go power sports... is that the exact torque converter that's on the go kart? im gonna do another minibike with the predator 212 and I want the right torque converter for it
+EliteBoxer92 I know I'm kind of late, but the rattling is the clutch plates most likely, or if your chain is loose it could be that. My Comet Torque converter does that. And if you are not getting very much top end, put a smaller sprocket in the rear.
+EliteBoxer92 also with the throttle, the predators don't come with a spring on the lever for the throttle, you need to install one. If that doesn't fix the problem I could be your throttle linkage, cable, or the handle. If you have any more questions, let me know.
i think it should be the one, john handles that stuff.
Just put on the motor. How long should I brake it in for?
Don't give it full throttle for the first tank of gas or so
+Owen Bochner How did it go?
Went pretty well. I let run for about 2.5 hours and replaced the oil.
It seems to be running pretty well. My friend did the same thing but his is acting kind of strange. DarkLinkAD
Owen Bochner
Hope he gets it figured out, Does he happen to have purchased the California carbed 212cc predator?? I hear those run lean.
I broke mine in with some Molybdenum oil additive and half ounce of 2 stroke in gas. Ridiculously smooth idle and overkill but I had the stuff on hand anyway.
You guy make me scared to do the engine swap. Two thumbs up great video
Way different channel with all the editing, but it's nice. Good job mangs
Who watchin in 2018?
2019 here
2019
@@thatskull me too
2019
Should have put a manual clutch on it
that was brill great video bike looks so much fun
So many memories back in the day when I watched this video and did the same with my first mini bike
8:39 he just got back from smoking weed and he's crazy stoned
8:42 she's stoned too and is munching on cookies (see how she tries to hide her face) typical amateur stoner reaction to being on camera
Mechanics, motorbikes, and weed......Big thumbs up from me!
Don’t think that’s what that is bub. But ok. Glad u were there to know this is what happened
try to make a powered unicycle with 80cc
So sad there isn't a "love" button! Enjoyed this immensely!!! Thanks for the smiles and laughs.P.S. Really wish I had a handy man to do this for me.
Will this bike hold a 170 lb person as far as what the frame will hold? Or is the weight limit based on the power of the motor?
8:52 a little to close there buddy
😂 glad I wasn't the only one to catch that.
So their a cop who lives on our street and he doesn’t like us driving our go karts or our dirt bikes because he thinks it’s loud
Tell him to fuck off and ride anytways!
5:49 “User Must Operate Properly Or Voids Warranty”😂🤣😂🤣😆😆
I needed this video I have the same problem with the air filter assembly
I don't know if it's been said, but put that 80cc on a bicycle
probably. the stock motors on those bikes suck the day i got one I also went to harbor to get a preditor
212cc and 6bhp ?
rotax 125cc 2t 33bhp
cidoXL The Rotax is a two stroke, and the 212cc is a four stroke- they both have their pros and cons. The four stroke just happens to work better for my purposes (cheaper, more reliable).
Two strokes are cheaper. And 6 bhp is bad for 212cc
Man, those wheelies. Cool build!
Hey so I was wondering what length chain you recommended for a good fit. I know that yours was loose so I was thinking y’all have figured that out. Let me know as soon as you can. Thank you
Sucks that your chick doesn't seem interested at all
Burnt Clutch Most girls wouldn’t be interested, as long as she don’t complain she’s a keeper
do you guys eat paints chips.
looolll id bet yea
You guys have come a long way.
2020 GANGGG I'm getting one soon so hyped to buy one
"This is ick hes been in some of my videos" wow this is a old video
212cc and only 6.5hp? my DR250 is almost 30hp. A DR200 is like 18hp, what gives?
These engines only spin at 3600rpm wheras your dirtbike engine spins at 10,000+ rpm. Also these engines should never need a rebuild. But chances are your bike does every 100 - 200 hours right?
Its an enduro, so no
And these dudes either break something or change things out way under even 75hrs of ride time, so why does that even matter?. Wish they would put a 4 cylinder 600cc streetbike in something, would make it way more interesting.
Motorcycle engines are made out of higher quality materials, (forged piston and crank, titanium valves or something near) and with much closer tolerances. These little engines make less even though they're bigger because they aren't tuned the same and aren't built with the notion that they can bump compression since there will be a steady stream of air to cool it. Think of it more as an engine from a power washer, rather than a moto engine.
gsxr1kkid My bike is also air-cooled. Just seems a little lazy to be swapping in these slow, belt driven engines, when their are so many better options out there. I guess cheap and easy is all the appeal.
That was a textbook highside on the grass.
It's like the muscle car of mini bikes, I love it.
I just did the Predator 212 swap to my monster moto 80. It has been one non-stop giggle ever since!
Use the motor and put it on a electric plastic cars for toddlers
Is it just me who think 6.5 hp from a 212cc engine is pathetic. most 125cc motorcycle engines put out over 10 hp and are good for 30 hp if you put some time and money in to it.
+Schizoman The 212cc engine is a four stroke. I'd bet that the 125cc engines you're talking about are two strokes... They make much more power/cc, but they're a lot more expensive. Plus, these 212cc four strokes we use can be built up to 20 or even 25 horsepower.
+CarsandCameras 2-stroke is much cheaper to manufacture than 4-stroke. And for the power we can take a 125cc 4-stroke yamaha WR. Completely stock it has 14hp.
+CarsandCameras My bike's 200cc 4 stroke engine churns out about 20 hp. Stock.
+Blijepanda well not everyone lives where u live
A yz125 makes about 32hp...
holy shit i laughed my ass off. good fuggin vid guys! subscribed. liked. look forward to watching the rest of your stuff. i feel like i've been missing out not knowing about you guys.
+65elcamino283 Thanks!
I like watching the classics every now and again. John looks like he's 15 lol
At the end of day one from trying to follow this "walk through" and I'm lucky I'm mechanically inclined, I've got another half day of work. Don't edit out the bs so folks actually see what you have to work through. Not subbing or liking this vid. I'll show y'all how it's done
please do.
cringeworthy
Jacob Di Donato Thanks bud.
after watching all the newer vids it was funny seeing all you guys getting an intro
You should install the CVT clutch kit for that Predator motor. Super smooth and higher top speed.
Where do you get the clutch kit from?
That little smooch after the bike got dumped had me cryin!
Hey guys really love the show. Question do think it's the 3 hour period for breaking in the 212cc preditor is needed.
Nice video. I bought a mini bike "kit" for my son this Christmas. I also picked up a Predator 212 at the local HF. Curious how you adapted the hand throttle to the new predator? You made it look simple. Am I over thinking it? Appreciate your work. Looks like you guys are having a blast.
Those 5/16"-24 'Fine Thread' Bolts are super hard to find around Raleigh now. Had to order one online!