HP OmniBook X + Snapdragon X Elite - Should You Skip it?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Review of the HP OmniBook X with Snapdragon X Elite! It's a 14inch laptop packed with 16GB of RAM and 1TB of storage. Is this the one?
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What do you guys think of the HP Omnibook X? Would you buy this?
Xplus have 10 cores
If they bring out a version with a brighter screen, I would.
No. It's an HP
If I was in the market I would opt for the Vivobook S15 or the Surface Laptop. I've had very good experiences with both brands.
No for me. It's an HP, lower tier Snapdragon X Elite CPU, and doesn't have all the app driver to work functionally.
Qualcomm has its time to shine then it proceeds to use a f*cking stupid naming scheme to start it off
it's intended to scam consumer. Look up their mobile line up this year
6s gen 3 is a rebrand of a 695 which is from 2021
8s gen3 = 7+gen3 but overclocked > 7+gen 2> 7 gen 3 > 7 gen 2 > 7s gen 2
they are confusing customer in order to get more money so now company like motorola put 8s gen 3 instead of 8 gen 3 in their flagship motorola edge 50 ultra and normal consumer think it has snapdragon 8 it must be the same as 8 gen 3
scammy company
Just wanted to fit in with the industry standards.
They Should of been like Apple And called it the X1 just like M1
Yeah they should use like Snapdragon x3,5,7,9 instead is messed up naming
The naming scheme is fine. It's probably one of the better ones out there.
lol your mic kept dropping, caught my eyes the whole time
LOL ya sorry about that. I need to tighten it up
@@MatthewMoniz nah it's totally fine, just found it funny and it gave me a bit of laugh, whole video is still rock solid.
i noticed too !!
@@MatthewMonizthat's what she said
it annoys me that the "snapdragon x elite" actually has 4 different versions, like how tf am I suppose to know which one this snapdragon x elite laptop has?
Yep, most companies aren't very forthcoming about those details in their product pages either. Just a general name and no specific part number.
@@PastafarianLemurI think because it doesn’t matter much. Like how Apple has multiple M3 variants with different GPU cores. At the end of the day, it will still perform well.
Should have pro plus ultra ... though over used those names kinda help
@@d24Apple has a simple naming style & doesn't have number😅
@Liatin1 you look at the spec sheet, like always. This isn't a new problem here, even before you had laptops that just said Intel Core i5 and nothing else, and then you had to dig into the specs to check the model number.
Remember, most users won't notice the difference. I'm getting the Plus because it'll be enough.
Which laptop are you getting?
It will be better to skip this iteration of snapdragon processors or maybe until this translation app gets close to rosetta level.
Surface Laptop 7: Blue/Plus/512GB. I've been using Surface Pro X SQ1/16GB/256GB for about 4 years as my main pc so I know this will be great for me. Edge, WhatsApp (64-bit), Outlook, MS Todo all run good are the main apps I use it on. TIDAL (32-Bit) is sluggish, but music streaming is better on phones, so it will be good to fix that one. I've been waiting for exactly this laptop. Thanks.
@@arhamkhxnwhy do you say that? ARM apps have been trickling out for a few years now. Seems to mean it's already solid except for Gaming and Video editing but these aren't intended for gaming anyway, it's an odd argument and Adobe is working on Premier Pro. But point being if you don't use Adobe apos or Game, which is a lot of people. Why wait?
@@bradavon I own the Surface pro 11 with the Elite chip and I love it
Isn't it partly a problem with Davinci optimisation? The M series have been out for a while now. Elite is brand new.
Its possible! But as of right now its not good
The problem is there's not a lot of differentiation available for the vendors, and they want differences to spec it for more quiet or more performance. Apple is all vertically integrated, so they make one decision and it sticks unless the user complains
IntelCoreUltra #IntelArc is FASTER than #Apple #M3 #MacBook Pro in Video Editing.
DaVinchi Resolve Studio 19 is 2.7 times slower than #CapCut.
@@HDRPCHow do you measure that CapCut is faster than DR?
@@akyhne render test H.264 and HEVC footage.
I have RTX 4080 and i am going to do the same test and i will let you know RTX 4080 CapCut vs Davinchi studio 19 public beta.
definitely holding out to see what lunar lake and strix point look like before buying any laptop this year
I’ve heard good things about strix point. Lunar lake looks interesting as well
Is these were in the 700-800 range I wouldn't mind but they are not cheap and it's gonna take time to start working properly.
that my biggest issue with this chip too, next month AMD will release Strix Point that'll have a way faster CPU, GPU and NPU while being even more efficient and not needing emulation and will be the same price if not cheaper
From what Im hearing Strix point will be the best of X86 we've ever seen. Easy to say because its the latest but its supposed to be special. I hope the hype is real. Should have some in soon!
@@MatthewMoniz from the leaked benchmarks that I've seen, when it's pushed to the max at 54w, the Ryzen 9 370 with 12 cores has a CPU on part with a desktop 7900x and a GPU on par with a 3050 mobile, but the default TDP is at 28w
@@deneguil-1618 I saw a leaked pricing of the AMD Vivobook version and they will be very close in price to the X-Elite with 32GB/2TB for around $1300! Obviously, the AMD will kill the X Elite in every metric probably including battery life.
As someone who worked for HP doing Omnibook support back in the early 2000’s,.. its a nice surprise to see them resurrect the Omnibook branding.
Is this the only HP version available or they will have the higher snapdragon x elite chip down the line? I really like this form factor from HP. Their designs have definitely become very slick recently.
They have higher models as well.
Good video! Sounds like Windows itself is the weak link in these machines. Still, I see no reasopn to get these, with new Intel and AMD-based laptops coming out soon.
You hit the nail on the head. It does have MORE storage than all of those other laptops, and it's only $1,199 so a good deal at Best Buy. BUT with no OLED, and a slower SSD, it's best to wait until it goes on a significant sale to justify it.
I have the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7X, which has a lower power 78E100 chip than the Asus, but the difference in the various benchmark scores are very small.
Thanks for the review!
Fan noise compared to the Intel/AMD predecessor would have been great ... to know how big the improvement is.
I'm really looking forward to more silent laptops.
It’s a massive difference for fan noise. You can watch any of my Intel/amd videos and see sometimes they hit 50dba in performance mode
@@MatthewMoniz good to know, thanks!
My experience tells me you should skip all HP products.
Hello, could you please recommend a good laptop for me 🙏
I will use it for Data analysis and AI.
The only thing this has shown me is that there is no rush to abandon proper x86 laptops with a 4060/4070, especially given how you can find some with decent panels at comparable or slightly cheaper prices.
Maybe in another generation or two, these will be viable for more than just light use.
Matt, OLED on laptops is not a selling point. Unless for gaming, OLED is just a terrible sacrifice just for the tiny bit more blacks you get compared to an LED. 1) Battery runtime: OLED consumes a LOT more power than an LED. 2) Burn ins.
3) screen door effect
@@IvoPavlik PWM flickering.
i was looking forward to hp's offering, and on the surface it's easy to not catch all the drawbacks, had no idea it had so many drawbacks
Why do you need such long and fixed mic??? I would rather prefer small wireless mic which can be attached to collar of Tshirt
This is really suprising that thre are no laptops with X Elite and dedicated graphics card. That's such an obvious combo and would solve main performance issues.
Thanks for these insights. I almost pressed the 'Buy' button for this device yesterday, because I was blinded by the X-Elite sticker.
Tx Matt for the valuable advice
Apple’s integration has given them a significant competitive advantage. It has been almost 4 years since the M1 chip, and competitors are still nowhere close.
Is Qualcomm paying these reviewers to never show battery comparison against a Mac?
At least this guy showed the single core performance, some don't even do that. Its all multicore everywhere..
This is a non sponsored video. I showed everything compared to Mac minus battery life. Only because the program I use for PC laptops are different compared to the Mac. Trying to keep things fair
Toms hardware just released some details about that, they are lower then macbooks but MacBook pros also have a much larger battery than any Qualcomm laptop released so far.
The custom power profiles of each laptop would also make this hard.
@@MatthewMoniz In my opinion it doesn't matter that the program you use to test is the same (I'm assuming you mean program to put some load on the laptop).
It will be a comparison of real world usage between the two. The two ecosystems are designed to run different programs and the users of these systems will use different software to suit their platform best.
Your drooping mic stand was reviewing the laptop for you.
They should make a m1 competitor l. I know the x plus is a thing but that would be great for students in like a surface pro lol
Ive heard Davinci Resolve is not using the GPU of X elite yet
Maybe! but I can only test whats available to me right now and as of right now it needs improvement
Yeah it's not they said hw acceleration is coming
@@Deathdemon65 looking forward to that! Where did they said it? Couldnt find anything in their website. thanks
@@seanvideoediting Qualcomm said they still working on the GPU driver optimisations for games and other productivity software
IntelCoreUltra #IntelArc is FASTER than #Apple #M3 #MacBook Pro in Video Editing.
DaVinchi Resolve Studio 19 is 2.7 times slower than #CapCut.
Linux has had Box64 for a few years. It'll be a matter of time for bugs to be reported for Prism to be reliable.
1:09 that's still better than surfaces 30w charger 💀
Funny enough Surface Pro still runs faster... Video coming soon
Try out Lenovo Yoga Slim 7X. I think your opinion about the snapdragon laptops will change. Not drastically though but it will be better
I have it here! Working on a review as well
@@MatthewMoniz great
Most of the people won't even care about their specs(general public). They just go to a store,ask for price, they'll buy it. The rest will have an idea about tech stuff,do their research and get what they want in their budget. In such a scenario,introducing chipset variants with different power levels,naming them with un conventional codes, multiple variants all are gonna make it hard to find the best one for you.snapdragon should seriously consider this,and should name their processors accordingly. Already the market confuses them ,sales people does the same ,now you too?😂( I am not a hater,but a thought)
I want this for windows, but for God sake why did you keep the same price structure? I wish they would have at least tried to match apple at the low end especially if they arent as powerful.
is he playing overwatch with the arrow keys?
Yes, He is left handed, how else would he play? He talked about it before.
@@mehashonhold ahh well i did not know that, never seen a left handed gamer before
I guess its a first step, we come long way from Windows RT surface and laptop, Its like two step foward and 1 step back, its so much potential but the price its just not right, but the potential its there, the good battery life, the portability its awesome and for normal users wont care about games this thing would just great, intel amd and even qualcomm need to figure it out before other like mediatek come with a good and cheap solution that would just kill the pentiums, celerons and i3 that cant game anyway good cheap portable and long lasting computing its finally coming soon and we can only be happy about this kind of competition.
like manty many laptops- no upgrade paths and the options to choose 1 decent 16gb stick and also allow US to add another I would waith looking at mini pc ala AMD raze wih their GPU smaller more prts and needs a monitor you may already, have $15 for a logitech keyobaord on your way. Don't we already have enough mouses in a drawer? Just not a easy solution for >1000 might as wll get a nice case and tablet with ports.
If I'm not mistaken the Snapdragon X Plus should have 10 cores on that table displayed at 44 seconds in.
Thats correct! I was to focused on the speed and forgot to mention that one key difference. Thanks for pointing it out
Do you know why there is such a difference with davinci resolve?
the CPUs apparanly cost less to make than rivals. The laptops should have been cheaper.
Why the hell would anyone buy something like this instead of getting a MacBook and using windows on that?
If and when I am using PCs, CPU and GPU are running with 100% all the time😅😅
Is the RAM swappable??? Why didn't you mention it?
None of the snapdragon laptops have swappable RAM. I also show the internals where you can see the soldered memory.
I want to buy a surface 7 laptop with X elite chip, but I am wondering is it capable enough to run a little bit of photoshop and Lightroom not video editing. Plz help, Thanks
Davinci resolve is out of beta now
Clearly, Snapdragon cannot compete against Apple M series laptop. It tries to get some market share from ntel and AMD laptop. However, x86 PC ecosystem is just too large and too important. Many legacy and current hardware devices will not have Snapdragon drivers, and many old and useful software will not have Snapdragon version. If the price is $300-500, some will give it try, just like Google Chrome book. For over $1000, over 95% will go with safe and mature x86 or just get Mac. Pretty sure, we will see fire-sale for these laptops with Snapdragon in this year holiday shopping season.
Snapdragon x elite was massively overhyped. Nothing I've seen so far would make me want one. Waiting for Intel and AMD to show what they are offering. Apple, Intel, and AMD are laughing their asses off.
even pavilion plus have better screen.
One of the worst options with these cpus.
Still do not understand the hype about snapdragon elite because the M chips are better
mic does want to work anymore give it some rest 😂😂
is worth it to get one this year or wait for the stable software?
If you live in a browser, use office, discord and watch content then buy it.. If you do other stuff then I'd hold off until apps are a bit more compatible
Microsoft and Qualcomm pranked everyone 😂
recommed waiting for Intel Lunar Lake unless you are in a rush
Apple always make the experience smooth is why i bought my 2 kids M1 MacBook Airs for college like 3 years ago & they Still Run smooth & Strong 💪🏼 🗣️💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 This why i prefer Apple products They just work!!! 💯💯💯💯
X Elite 78 is quite weak comparing with 84 or 00...and with the price, meh, not interested. I would rather get AMD or Intel.
Even if you have an 84 or 00 it still comes down to the Power. I have an 80 here and because they're using a 35W charger you lose a lot of performance.
For about 600~650 it makes sense, but not at this price.
Thats a little low. Id say $899-$949
I'm going to be honest here and say overwatch is almost unplayable. Those frame drops are super bad in game.
Agreed!
Please hook up a eGPU and check it out
Doesnt work
I'm just really disappointed in the screen.
It is to keep the price down and higher battery life for marketing.
@@andyH_England yeah I suspect that too.
If they bring out a version with a brighter screen, I'd probably buy it. I like oled and high refresh, but I don't absolutely need it. But 300 nits is just abysmal
@@dajotimes Yes, 300 nits are unusable in certain situations. A deal-breaker for most people, I would have thought.
Mediatek should develop a worthy competitor.
Im sure they will try
The non apple chips are making same mistakes again by complicating life with 1000 versions of a chip with one name
Qualcomm let make chip for server then no one care then Qualcomm let give them to PC .
Gta 5 runs great btw!!! Try it.
Handpicking a poor comparison for x86 is bad and misleading. You just mentioned in your previous video that Intel Core Ultra gives 14.5 hours of battery life that matches this laptop. Why the deliberate cherry picking? ruclips.net/video/uyHs5-XYh6s/видео.htmlsi=8dBiUO95yExgDHuQ
HPu$$ies use laptops with 16GB RAM.
asus is always the better one
FIRST RULE = DONT BUY HP LAPTOPS
May I ask why?
Because when you working with rapair this laptops you will know they will break sooner or later same story with asus
I hate hp products
Got to say. Its a flop compared to the m3
First
Somehow Qualcomm has created a more ambiguous naming scheme for their products than Intel and AMD😂
It doesn't matter. 90% of all buyers of these units will not care what CPU is inside.
@@akyhnelmao, they will not be aware of the trash cpu
@@cosmicreaverkassadin1143 Well, it's not trash, so...
@@akyhne They are worse than x86 chips in every work flow but casual work. The Apple M laptops are the only ARM computers that can pull off high-performance tasks.
@@LEMKINADE Of course they are worse than x86 in many tasks. CISC architecture is superior to RISC, so for complicated tasks x86 will beat any RISC chip.
But it's still early days for software for the Snapdragon X. M1 had a rough start too. That's the whole reason why Apple took so long to release a tower M based computer.
Apple figured something out a long time ago. Don't make people have to figure anything out in the store. Offer just a few options with easy to figure out specs. Regular, plus, pro and super pro. That's it. Snapdragon needs to be the same.
That's Qualcomm's plan all along. Expect X Elite Pro or Ultra down the line.
@@ShellymanStudios Pretty ignorant naming scheme, typical of CPU manufacturers in the Windows space ig though. Qualcomm must not understand what the word "Elite" actually means.
On the other hand, there's 2 different variants of almost every base M1, M2 & M3 chip with different core counts.
So there's a limit to how much that can fly when even Apple has to provide "distinction" in their own small way.
@@UnscuffedIoniannah but with apple they have the advantage of being one company. Basically all their chips are better as the numbers go up. M3 is the best than a pro is better than base and a max is better than the pro. Straight forward. Other thing is generally the more you spend the better it is. There are cases where windows laptops are $500 more than another one but less powerful or just worse.
@@justinweinstein22 I don't think I'm making my point very well. There's the;
M3 with 8 CPU cores, 8 GPU cores
M3 with 8 CPU cores, 10 GPU cores
M3 Pro with 11 CPU cores, 14 GPU cores
M3 Pro with 12 CPU cores, 18 GPU cores
M3 Max with 14 CPU cores, 30 GPU cores
M3 Max with 16 CPU cores, 40 GPU cores
It's equally a mess, but less so than whatever Qualcomm is smoking
Lmao, the compile times aren't affected by a 2600M/s SSD. And I say that as a developer of codebases that make Firefox look small. The entirety of the codebase + built objects could probably be transferred around in just 3 seconds. If anything IOPS is more important when it comes to storage for large compilation but any SSD should have more than enough IOPS these days.
That's clearly a computational bottleneck. It may be HP's particular settings for the chipset + cooling + more.
Was hilarious. Guy's nuts
What is with all of these "tech" RUclipsrs saying, "more faster, "more thinner", more lighter", "more quieter". More can not be applied in these circumstances, please stop.
Wait six months is my bet. People forget how rough around the edges the 13inch M1 MacBook Pro and MacBook Air were when they first launched.
the difference is apple developer support and the dedication to create software for ARM. We're still about to see that on the Windows platform.
Yeah, in 6 months nobody will be interested in Snapdragon anymore. Having seen a few reviews, the chip seems ok, but is it not a huge difference to the good x86 ones and it is actually Microsoft doing the damage here with the power management configuration options(or lack of).
Umm, no they weren't. They were actually extremely good out of the box. I bought it and am still loving it for all my audio production work.
My wife still uses an M1 MBA. It is great. And it was good at launch too. But so is the X Elite. Neither of them were bad, but Apple was missing quite a few native ARM apps, but 99% of people on a MBA would never notice niche pro apps missing. Same for the X Elite, as long as your browser and MS office are snappy and glitch free, most thin and light users won’t notice either.
Idk, Rosetta 2 was great on the M1 chips and later.
Sticker guy is happy now! 😂😂
He just bought a HUGE yacht in Kazakistan
The tremendous amount of development Apple has put into media encoders with their native silicon has really paid dividends for them in the creator space. While X Elite is a big step forward for Windows on Arm, there's a LONG way to go before it's competitive with Apple, at least insofar as creator-type productivity.
1200 bucks for a 60hz panel is NASTY NASTY WORK!! Smdh!!! HP wildin AGAIN!! But what’s new. Great video either way homie!!😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
lol thanks James!
@@MatthewMoniz I'm just saying bruh! lol
Since windows and Mac are using arm will it be easier for developers to make their apps available to both platforms
I hope so!
Nope, not how it works at all. Both Apple and Windows have diverging and competing paths for UI frameworks and programming languages (Swift vs dotnet). The CPU arch has zero impact here as it's far removed from app level development and simply a compiler flag.
Mac Is much harder to develop for because you need developers using macs, the architecture is really irrelevant as the other comment said, it's just a compile flag (which most of the times you don't even have to specify). But the hardest thing for multi platform is the testing and bug tracking, it's harder to do both when you have more than one platform, and unless you have a big reason to support both, it's not worth it
I have been waiting for xps 16 4070 review 😢
Before pinning the blame on the SSD for the slow compile, perhaps you should confirm it by inspecting the disk usage. Even Task Manager reports disk read/write and utilisation. The full-blown Performance Monitor in Windows reports a lot more values.
HP sucks so bad never buying anything from them ever again 😒
So many down sides 😂😂😂
Dear youtubers, listen Matthew, listen him good and carefully. Most of the reviewers are not mentioning about Snapdragon x elite variants. If you are going to buy a laptop with snapdragon X1E-78-100 version, be aware of it. That version only provides a tablet like performance.
lol I talk about this right in the beginning of the video and show the chart with the different variants. Dear commenters this isn’t a TikTok video watch the whole thing :P
@@MatthewMonizI think he meant "listen to Matthew" is my guess 😅 and is concerned about how other RUclipsrs aren't talking about it
@@MatthewMoniz as @omara.157 mentioned i just wanted the highlight the importance of being aware of processor variant. That's a vital thing but somehow not underlined enough across youtube and by companies.
"More faster" isn't even a thing, dad. 😋
I don’t script so sometimes I use filler words that don’t make sense grammatically. It is what it is
@@MatthewMoniz No worries, it was meant tongue-in-cheek. 😉Thanks for getting back to me nonetheless, love your videos. 😊👍
skip it
Qualcomm will be sorry for making this confusion.
Its a PC issue not so much qualcomm. To many OEMs with different demands and needs on how they want to power the CPU. Same stuff happens with Intel and AMD cpus.
i feel min brightness for laptops these days should be 500nits, but higher for performance x-elite laptops that can be used outdoors in the sun?
Moooom, Qualcomm is Qualcomming again.
Only 2 groups of power users are waiting for the laptop. Windows and Linux users. We hope to use it for programming because of its light weight configuration.
What is their performance on battery compared to on charging?
Identical
No performance loss in my Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro on BATTERY
This is why Apple are the best
Why can't snapdragon name them evenly it seems their copying Sony wh-1000xm5🤔😂😂😂
3:40 but we are comparing a beta application that's running great for processors which it was designed for against a processor that just got released
even tho devs at DaVinci probably had x elite engeneering sample or whatever we shouldn't take the beta results that seriously tho
Doesnt matter its whats available now. I can't a non-beta that doesn't exist. Just like I cant show Premiere Pro or After Effects since it was pulled until Adobe releases their ARM version.
IntelCoreUltra #IntelArc is FASTER than #Apple #M3 #MacBook Pro in Video Editing.
DaVinchi Resolve Studio 19 is 2.7 times slower than #CapCut.
Cinebench R24 is not yet native ARM right?
It is native on ARM
Embrace the arm architecture. These greedy manufacturers will make laptops even more pricey than ever.
Sticker guy is crying happily because he has another client😂😂😂😂😂X Elite
Sticker guy is living large now
About the Da Vinci issue, isn't that a software issue? I mean, why would the M3 Air be cruising with it while the X Elite struggling when they are almost the same in performance? It doesn't make sense to me.
IntelCoreUltra #IntelArc is FASTER than #Apple #M3 #MacBook Pro in Video Editing.
DaVinchi Resolve Studio 19 is 2.7 times slower than #CapCut.
Well I agree the naming is confusing. If you're not researching thoroughly then you get whatever you get. You deserve it and researching is not just watching RUclips videos and I actually don't use RUclips videos to make any buying decision but that's just me
#IntelCoreUltra #IntelArc is FASTER than #Apple #M3 #MacBook Pro in Video Editing.
Fact is.DaVinchi Resolve Studio 19 is 2.7 times slower than #CapCut for Windows PC.
bro it looks like your mike is sponsored by snapdragon,,,,it doesn't like your feelings toward it.
How much power a CPU on a Laptop draws has little to do with the power brick that it comes with.
Yes, for high end Laptops you can run into issues where your laptop charges slower than it discharges under heavy use, but let's not kid ourselves, even the X1E-84 doesn't do that when you charge your device with a 60W charger.
Don't get me wrong -> a higher wattage (and therefore faster) charging ability is nice, but please don't make the argument that it has any bearing on the power of the CPU on these productivity focused devices
I have the early be 2010 pavillions that broke the hinges all the time FOUL RECALL
Ah yes leave it to Snapdragon to make things confusing with their new x processors