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  • Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
  • Ancient Greek historian Roel Konijnendijk takes a deep dive into the historical accuracy of one of the most iconic and ridiculous depictions of the Spartans - '300' (2006).
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:33 Spartan Society and Customs
    02:34 Xerxes’ Messenger
    06:56 The Ephors, the Oracle and the Carneia
    10:30 The 300
    15:39 The Persian Fleet
    16:14 Thermopylae, the ‘Hot Gates’
    17:17 Spartan Battle Technique
    19:12 The Persian Army
    24:42 Xerxes
    28:28 Ephialtes
    32:01 Dilios - Why Did the Spartans Stay?
    34:18 The Final Stand
    38:44 Aftermath of Thermopylae and Delios
    40:53 Movie Quotes: Fact or Fiction?

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  • @daroth7127
    @daroth7127 11 дней назад +2026

    This guy needs his own youtube channel at this point

    • @andrewm1857
      @andrewm1857 11 дней назад +75

      Yes please. I rewatch his videos all the time. Fascinating and so many ditches

    • @kevinhurley6919
      @kevinhurley6919 11 дней назад +62

      He should call it "diggin' ditches"

    • @kevinhurley6919
      @kevinhurley6919 11 дней назад +14

      He should call it "diggin' ditches"!

    • @MN-yb8un
      @MN-yb8un 11 дней назад +2

      i like so too, still not sure if there is a too much about a good thing. if he has the material, sure bring them on, or some recordings of lectures.

    • @hissingsidll750
      @hissingsidll750 11 дней назад +5

      Hes picking on a graphic novel for Christ's sake...not the encyclopedia brittanica....this guy should chill out and realise that

  • @Milos_Markovic
    @Milos_Markovic 11 дней назад +1481

    Q: How do i win ancient battles?
    A: Dig ditches
    Q: How many?
    A: Yes.

    • @KvltKrist
      @KvltKrist 11 дней назад +30

      And when you thought you had dug enough ditches, dig a lot more.

    • @TallDude73
      @TallDude73 11 дней назад +19

      "Where's your ditch?" 😄

    • @Marauder99991
      @Marauder99991 11 дней назад +22

      Honestly, I dont really understand how Europe isn't just one big ditch.

    • @ashscott6068
      @ashscott6068 11 дней назад +11

      "They're just...going around, sir"
      "But.....the ditches"
      "Just going around, sir"

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin 11 дней назад +6

      ​@@Marauder99991 we tryed. got half way from the North sea to the alps. maybe next time.

  • @Malky24
    @Malky24 11 дней назад +668

    Another famous pithy Spartan response was when Philip of Macedon sent a message to the Spartan army in 345BCE saying: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city."
    The Spartans sent back a one-word reply: "If"
    Admittedly that story is a lot cooler if you leave out the second part of it where Philip of Macedon did *exactly* what he said he was going to do and gave the Spartans such a brutal pummelling that they never really recovered from it.

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus 11 дней назад +151

      A few years later, when Alexander and the bulk of the Macedonian army are away conquering Persia, the Spartans try to rise up again. And the Macedonian general left behind to mind the store crushed them again in a matter of months.

    • @marcusclaudius266
      @marcusclaudius266 11 дней назад +113

      @@digitaljanus And Alexander referred to it as a "clash of mice," because he was off fighting a real war and couldn't be bothered to care what the children back in Greece were doing.

    • @jackj9816
      @jackj9816 11 дней назад +53

      And people try to argue because Sparta wasn’t destroyed or fully conquered it showed they were badass. When really Sparta wasn’t really a big prize and Phillip didn’t see it worth the fight so instead destroyed most there lands and took there territory

    • @TheZombifiedGuy
      @TheZombifiedGuy 11 дней назад +63

      I kind of like this new angle on the "Come and get them" and "If" replies where instead of badass defiance it's just a pithier version of fucking around before finding out lol

    • @Warmaker01
      @Warmaker01 11 дней назад +33

      @@TheZombifiedGuy It's even worse than that. Before Philip came down and ravaged the Spartan countryside, Sparta was pummeled by Thebes who was capably led by two generals. But the Theban - Spartan War cost both sides so much. Once that was over, that was when Philip invaded.

  • @Liam_Mellon
    @Liam_Mellon 11 дней назад +104

    I love Roel, but I always feel bad that he's having to critique mostly movies that are obviously ahistorical. He deserves a historically accurate movie to break down

    • @GenJuhru
      @GenJuhru 9 дней назад +10

      A documentary, the Cleopatra "My grandmother told me..."

    • @luvahadowsdolls
      @luvahadowsdolls 3 дня назад

      Unfortunately those types of films are few and far between. On the first Insider video, however, I think he comments that Alexander got close to being correct as they had an Oxford professor advising on it.

    • @timothytinsumli8098
      @timothytinsumli8098 2 дня назад +1

      CinemaSins NEEDS to hire Roel.

    • @smithryansmith
      @smithryansmith День назад

      @@timothytinsumli8098 cinemaSins needs to stop existing.

  • @jammysmears4077
    @jammysmears4077 11 дней назад +618

    You've shown half the film here. The editor is a madman.

    • @leonelramireza.4826
      @leonelramireza.4826 11 дней назад +127

      Madness???….. THIS IS SPARTA!!!

    • @fernandoaugustoribeiro3288
      @fernandoaugustoribeiro3288 11 дней назад +54

      Considering that if we remove slow-mo scenes the movie gets half of its feature length, the official Ditch guy has reacted to the whole movie.

    • @schiz0phren1c
      @schiz0phren1c 10 дней назад +5

      @jammysmears4077
      Yeah! (Re)Spoiler alert!...about an 18 year old movie about a thousand year old conflict that we know the end of...but still!

    •  10 дней назад

      @@fernandoaugustoribeiro3288somebody actually did this, the movie only got 6 or 8 minutes shorter

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 10 дней назад +6

      The best kind of madman. Giving us as much as possible of what we wanted.

  • @james088
    @james088 11 дней назад +594

    48 minutes with dr. Konijnendijk? Heck yes, please.

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 11 дней назад +70

    "I have no idea what Frank Miller was snorting when he came up with this."
    Gave me a good giggle.

    • @MarcFun
      @MarcFun 9 дней назад +2

      Just another super hero movie disguised into a story happened in history. which is false

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 8 дней назад

      @@MarcFun Tell me: what part of 300 suggests that it's trying to be an accurate historical film? Was it the Xerxes being seven foot tall? Was it the literal giant with huge blades for hands? Was it the goat man?

    • @erih2934
      @erih2934 4 дня назад +2

      @@Cailus3542 I am always surprised people think there was any attempt to make this a historical account - the story in the comic/movie is told as a pre-battle propaganda piece by one spartan to hype up his comrades for the next battle XD
      Analyzing 300 without keeping that in mind is a bit of a miss. Still I love listening to Roel Konijnendijk simply to get more historical details :)

    • @hansdampf6916
      @hansdampf6916 2 дня назад +1

      @@Cailus3542
      The historic setting. The names of countries and people. The weapons, the clothes... Lots of things suggested that this is based on a historic event. Not knowing much about that event, the average viewer has no idea what apart from the fantastical aspect would be historically accurate or what wouldn't.

  • @kdks7843
    @kdks7843 11 дней назад +325

    Legend states that "300" refers to the number of ditches dug by the Spartans.

    • @xScooterAZx
      @xScooterAZx 11 дней назад +3

      Never heard that.

    • @TheGrumbliestPuppy
      @TheGrumbliestPuppy 11 дней назад +12

      @@xScooterAZx its a joke

    • @A0A4ful
      @A0A4ful 11 дней назад +10

      😂The Persians weren't prepared to do a steeplechase!

    • @kdks7843
      @kdks7843 11 дней назад +4

      @@A0A4ful 🤣

    • @xScooterAZx
      @xScooterAZx 11 дней назад +1

      @@TheGrumbliestPuppy Ahh

  • @paulc3752
    @paulc3752 11 дней назад +733

    "I had no idea what Frank Miller was snorting when he did this...."
    Ohhhh, you sweet summer child.

    • @HiveFleetUlfang1
      @HiveFleetUlfang1 11 дней назад +74

      He's a University professor. I'm sure he can imagine what Miller was on...

    • @rsbandbj1
      @rsbandbj1 11 дней назад +18

      i laughed out loud when he said that.

    • @pyrob2142
      @pyrob2142 11 дней назад +13

      I was chuckling before, but this line absolutely killed me.

    • @Batchall_Accepted
      @Batchall_Accepted 11 дней назад +25

      ​​​​​​@@HiveFleetUlfang1 I think they were more implying that Roel probably didn't realize how accurate his joke about "what he was snorting" actually was lol
      Frank Miller notoriously did a shitload of cocaine when he wrote this lmao

    • @GoldnDusty
      @GoldnDusty 10 дней назад +4

      @@Batchall_Accepted And university professors (and a lot of academics of various stripes) have been known to take said extra-curriculars, so I believe the commenter was making a pithy remark about Roel's likely knowledge of this.

  • @hdmairbf
    @hdmairbf 11 дней назад +463

    We need Dr. Ditch videos at least weekly.

  • @Squiesh
    @Squiesh 9 дней назад +17

    It's amazing that Robert Pattinson is so well versed in history.

  • @petroserk9370
    @petroserk9370 11 дней назад +47

    "I don't think Persians would make very good mortar"
    😂😂

    • @ATomRileyA
      @ATomRileyA 5 дней назад

      acktshually Apparently adding blood makes better cement :)

  • @toniviskari417
    @toniviskari417 11 дней назад +305

    I'm only in the beginning of the video and already cackling over the "Until like later that day" line.
    Dude has a really awesome dry wit.

    • @nickzardiashvili624
      @nickzardiashvili624 8 дней назад +5

      You can imagine it as the narrator saying "A spartan was taken from his home" and then a SpongeBob title card with that French accent voice: "later that day" as the boy comes back home for dinner.

  • @kinghenryxl1747
    @kinghenryxl1747 11 дней назад +346

    Roel was also a part-time standup comedian in college, which explains a lot LOL

    • @stevenlannister184
      @stevenlannister184 11 дней назад +28

      Really? God that makes so much sense

    • @romant7204
      @romant7204 11 дней назад +23

      Please tell me this is real

    • @xabierperez
      @xabierperez 11 дней назад +10

      Tell us more!

    • @agentmv
      @agentmv 11 дней назад +1

      Oh God tell us more about this!

    • @DrRoelKonijnendijk
      @DrRoelKonijnendijk 10 дней назад +1

      Sadly this is not true, I just participated in Bright Club during the final year of my PhD
      ruclips.net/video/0S7oi1Xn59c/видео.html

  • @nachtschatten8710
    @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +89

    Dear Dr. Roel, can you PLEASE look at the fact that this video is online since 3hrs and already got 15.000views.
    And most if not all of us are here for our favorite, kind and knowledgeable Ditch-guy. ❤❤❤
    Please either do more of those videos or please upload more of your lectures, which by now, I am certainly not the only one who knows them by heart.
    Pretty please?
    I promise to build an extra ditch in front of my appartment's ditch.

    • @NixHarpinger
      @NixHarpinger 10 дней назад +3

      Favorite, kinda and knowledgeable? You forgot to add funny and lighthearted. :)
      Also, I'm going on a limb here, but I guess your existing apartment ditch wasn't there before you started watching Dr. Konijnendijk? 😄

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 10 дней назад +2

      @@NixHarpinger You are absolutely right,- I indeed forgot funny, lighthearted and witty, too.
      And also, yes, my existing appartment ditch was dutifully dug after Dr.Roel enlightened me in two famous movie reviews about the necessity of having a ditch,- even though, he admittedly mentioned that he wasnt entirely sure whether a ditch and a second ditch would actually work that well when facing the massive horde of undead ice zombies of the Night King. But,- as he recommended I made sure to place my trebuchets not outside my ditch perimeter to make up for the zombie issue.
      Do you think, he will read our comments and realize that our common dedication to ditches in general and ditching everything as soon as we see his videos, will entice him to take part in more videos or even upload his lectures, so we can follow along?
      Maybe we could petition for a Patreon? Might be an idea, dont you think?

    • @NixHarpinger
      @NixHarpinger 10 дней назад +3

      @@nachtschatten8710 We'll have to go with Patreon as the chance of him reading this are near zero.
      Maybe let's also make another petition to have mandatory education for Hollywood producers that artillery does indeed go behind the line and skirmishers actually go *in front* of the battle-line.
      You don't want to accidentally hit your fellow soldiers in the back and lobbed arrows are very inaccurate and actually lose a lot of kinetic energy traveling up, fighting gravity. But Hollywood just doesn't get tired of arrows flying in long arches (while also on fire).
      In all seriousness tho, I don't see him being a full RUclipsr, it would seem he likes his job more than some YT likes, but it would be cool to have some more dedicated content from our favorite Dutch Ditch Guy. Like you said, they can be lectures and other historical dives, not just movie reactions.

  • @timothyhouse1622
    @timothyhouse1622 11 дней назад +127

    "I got 99 problems but a DITCH aint one."

    • @MrRJPE
      @MrRJPE 11 дней назад +5

      Missed an opportunity to use 300 instead of 99.

    • @hermannsteiner7244
      @hermannsteiner7244 11 дней назад +3

      underrated comment 🙌👌

  • @anonnymousperson
    @anonnymousperson 11 дней назад +300

    "War Rhinos are not a thing"
    - Roel Konijnendijk, 2024

    • @MichalKaczorowski
      @MichalKaczorowski 11 дней назад +20

      In Wakanda, maybe ;)

    • @cleverusername9369
      @cleverusername9369 11 дней назад +35

      My favorite line, "I don't think Persians would make very good mortar"

    • @valeforyoru
      @valeforyoru 11 дней назад +11

      Rhinos have poor eyesight and low intelligence.
      There is a video of a Rhino trying to defend her calf from Hyenas.... she charged her own calf by mistake and sent it to oblivion. I guess they can't be trained for battles, but still cool to see because they are magnificent.

    • @supremenain7006
      @supremenain7006 10 дней назад +6

      To sum up
      “I don’t know what Frank Miller was snorting”
      Neither do we 🤣

    • @LuDux
      @LuDux 10 дней назад +2

      @@valeforyoru well duh, it they had high intelligence they wouldn't go to war

  • @AdFin26
    @AdFin26 11 дней назад +212

    I see a video with this guy, I get my ‘build more ditches’ T-shirt ready and click play.

    • @oskar6661
      @oskar6661 11 дней назад +7

      Dude, I built a ditch...from which I watched this video.

    • @chengkuoklee5734
      @chengkuoklee5734 11 дней назад +2

      We should have t shirts: Dig Ditch Throw Stones.

    • @philipsquire9056
      @philipsquire9056 11 дней назад +3

      There are t-shirts? (Googling intensifies)

    • @xxFortunadoxx
      @xxFortunadoxx 11 дней назад

      @@chengkuoklee5734 Boil water; costs you nothing.

    • @lenanana8
      @lenanana8 11 дней назад

      ​@@chengkuoklee5734Or tshirts with an embroidered shovel on the front upper side, and on the back in big letters "WHERE IS YOUR DITCH?"!
      Is someone able to make these? Or maybe we can ask the University of Oxford where Dr. Roel works to make it official department merch? Trust me, their admission numbers would skyrocket if they did this!

  • @Owlinabowl
    @Owlinabowl 10 дней назад +8

    “I have no idea what Frank Miller was snorting, when he came up with this….”
    Kinda explains the whole movie tbh lol

  • @wk-ys4gt
    @wk-ys4gt 7 дней назад +6

    It's no surprize Leonidas was betrayed.
    Ephialtes apparently couldn't have stood his disregard to trenches.

  • @Siegfried_drachentoter
    @Siegfried_drachentoter 11 дней назад +426

    Ditch intensifies

  • @Vidit-qx9gg
    @Vidit-qx9gg 11 дней назад +290

    Spartans lose not because they were outnumbered but because they didn't dig ditches 😢

    • @Pan_Blazej
      @Pan_Blazej 11 дней назад +10

      But, you gotta admit, they built at least one wall.

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +5

      ​@@Pan_BlazejYeah, but as Dr.Roel stated... "Persians dont make up good mortar." so, they had better dug a ditch

    • @robertwilliamson922
      @robertwilliamson922 11 дней назад +2

      They were not loose. Their formations were tight. But they did lose the battle.

    • @VDA19
      @VDA19 11 дней назад +3

      They did build a wall, though, and a wall is just a ditch that goes up instead of down.

    • @badfoody
      @badfoody 11 дней назад

      Lose

  • @fractalfae5418
    @fractalfae5418 11 дней назад +94

    Someone needs to make a historically authentic movie about Thermopylae and hire Roel as historical advisor.

    • @corvus2512
      @corvus2512 10 дней назад +7

      Exactly, ever since I saw his first video I always ask myself why don’t these movies and tv shows hire guys like him? There is no way being more accurate would mean less cinematic

    • @dusankazandzic401
      @dusankazandzic401 10 дней назад +2

      History isn't as cool or plot willing always,there's a reason why they don't do it

    • @darknesswave100
      @darknesswave100 9 дней назад +4

      If they did it would be boring as hell. If they actually did that then the movie would bomb cause actual history isn't as exciting as Hollywood makes it out to be. Are there cool moments? Absolutely but not like the movies portray stuff

    • @clydefrog203
      @clydefrog203 9 дней назад +3

      Because it would usually only interest history dorks like us. Just look how popular this ridiculous movie was. I was so excited to see this in theaters and can't explain how disappointed I was.

    • @Rob-qv8hi
      @Rob-qv8hi 9 дней назад +1

      Yes! He will have the Spartans dig 8000 ditches (including up the mountains and under the sea) and when the Persians attack, the song played will be Dragula with the lyric " Dig through the ditches and burn through the witches" on loop.

  • @Avio033
    @Avio033 11 дней назад +39

    Never realised Michael Fasbender was in this movie lol.

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali 10 дней назад +4

      Also McNutty...did not recognize him he was so tan here lmao

    • @PeterTeal77
      @PeterTeal77 8 дней назад

      Yeah it's like "Blackhawk Down" where every time I watch it I notice another actor and think "he was in this? How didn't I realize that?"

    • @tchaika222
      @tchaika222 7 дней назад

      The casting for that movie was _wild_ in retrospect

    • @Avio033
      @Avio033 7 дней назад

      @@PeterTeal77 Yeah or Band of Brothers. Every time I watch that series I see another actor who made a breakthrough later.

    • @ericbrown1101
      @ericbrown1101 5 дней назад +1

      I also forgot that Cersei was Gorgo lol

  • @DharianGames
    @DharianGames 11 дней назад +84

    A near hour long video of this man talking. 1000% down for it. Loved it.

  • @leemiller29
    @leemiller29 11 дней назад +125

    Every time the movie actually gets something semi-historically accurate I'm pleasantly surprised lol

    • @TheYogesh7777
      @TheYogesh7777 10 дней назад +6

      I am surprised how many things were actually correct. I thought it was total fictional.

    • @EHMSL1226
      @EHMSL1226 10 дней назад +1

      @@TheYogesh7777 It actually deserves a lot of credit for at least getting the main story across. Honestly a lot of the silly stuff in it at least is based on some sort of history. Obviously its a fantasy blockbuster movie with ridiculousness in it, but it also is clearly not trying to be 100% historically accurate with monsters and such etc.. Its a really interesting battle and point in history which I would not have looked up and read about if not for this movie!

    • @ericbrown1101
      @ericbrown1101 10 дней назад +4

      The ancient historical accounts of this battle are legendary for their iconic quotes, some of which I believe appear in the movie, perhaps most famously when Xerxes demanded Leonidas and his men lay down their weapons, to which Leonidas replied, "Molon labe"..."come and take them". At a similar encounter, a Persian emissary threatened "our arrows will block out the sun", to which a lieutenant of Leonidas replied, "so much the better, then we will have our battle in the shade."
      My personal favorite, however, is when Leonidas was marching off to battle, Gorgo asked him what she should do if he doesn't return. Leonidas said, "Marry a good man and have good children." And she did, by all accounts, becoming a very prominent figure in Spartan society.
      These quotes are all fanciful inventions of these ancient chroniclers, but are a big part of why these events have so captivated our imagination. These ancient "historians" were master storytellers.

    • @That-guy-there1
      @That-guy-there1 9 дней назад

      @@TheYogesh7777 thats because it is, its based on a graphic novel that is told by a spartan, it was never meant to be accurate. At the end of the movie when he is giving that speech he is telling them all the story in a glorified way to get them pumped

    • @NonsenseFabricator
      @NonsenseFabricator 9 дней назад

      When I heard the double-flute was accurate I was stoked.

  • @dunstonlion1342
    @dunstonlion1342 11 дней назад +54

    I see a Roel video, I watch a Roel video.

  • @bendykirk
    @bendykirk 11 дней назад +15

    Man I could listen to Roel talk about this kind of stuff for years straight....

  • @k0mp0cik
    @k0mp0cik 11 дней назад +62

    Me: Hey I think I'm gonna attend Lincoln College Oxford
    Society: Cool, to study at a prestigious school?
    Me: No, to listen to Roel Konijnendijk PhD about digging ditches

  • @michaelkean5969
    @michaelkean5969 11 дней назад +131

    As much as i love 300 it’s essentially Greek Braveheart.
    Honestly the story of the “300” really needs its own “outlaw king” where it’s essentially the same story/historical period but it’s more grounded in the real history.
    The only other piece of media to even remotely tackle the story of the 300 Spartans and the battle of Thermopylae was Assasins creed Oddessy and it is just as Accurate as 300 is.

    • @dormikdelron
      @dormikdelron 11 дней назад +18

      @@MichalKaczorowski On what Greek propaganda? Frank Miller invented a lot of these depictions from thin air. Most of it is not based on any actual greek propaganda that we know of.

    • @lopez.jacinto.6726
      @lopez.jacinto.6726 11 дней назад +16

      ​@@dormikdelronExactly. Herodotus doesn't present the Persians in this way, he shows through his work a fascination and respect for Persian history so "is just Greek propaganda" isn't an accurate argument.

    • @dionysusNME
      @dionysusNME 11 дней назад

      Exactly. I am literally reading Tom Holland's excellent translation of The Histories and one thing that stands out, actually, is Herodotus' admiration for the Persians

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 11 дней назад +3

      @@MichalKaczorowskiand yet it’s the only film out there that actually depicts the events of the Persian Greek war literally no one else has since,

    • @johngeralt
      @johngeralt 11 дней назад +3

      @@MichalKaczorowski I don't even think it would even be Greek propaganda given how anglicized Sparta is in the movie.

  • @BadassRaiden
    @BadassRaiden 11 дней назад +115

    Oh yeah, then there's the whole "free men stood against a tyrant" line. Like, the ratio of the population of Sparta of citizens and slaves was overwhelmingly slaves. There were way more slaves than citizens and, whether it was taken from the graphic novel or Snyder wrote the line himself, the idea that the Spartan society is a society of "free men" fighting against "a tyrant" is so shamefully laughable it's insane.

    • @TheZombifiedGuy
      @TheZombifiedGuy 11 дней назад +33

      Yeah... kind of echoes the whole "slaveowners who wanted to be free" vibe of the declaration of independence

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 11 дней назад +9

      Come to think of it, this film could easily be about the Athenians instead, like the sequel. Athens was hardly "free" as we would describe it in 2024, but they were a heck of a lot closer than Sparta.

    • @zedeyejoe
      @zedeyejoe 11 дней назад +10

      And every year, Sparta declared war on its slaves. To give a legal (and religious) reason for keeping its slaves in slavery.

    • @anonymes2884
      @anonymes2884 11 дней назад +1

      Yeah but I suppose to him the only actual Spartans _were_ citizens so it's _technically_ true in his eyes (kinda fun to see the "no true Scotsman" fallacy being committed over a thousand years before Scotland even existed :).

    • @jonnybgoode7742
      @jonnybgoode7742 10 дней назад

      ​@@TheZombifiedGuy reading your comments makes it clear how absolutely clueless you are.

  • @GuillermoBarron100
    @GuillermoBarron100 11 дней назад +13

    This could've lasted 3 hours and I would've watch it till the end

  • @Admiral.Ackbar
    @Admiral.Ackbar 11 дней назад +31

    Dr. Konijnedijk is always an instant click on the Video for me. Thanks for having him again. Back to digging more ditches !

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +2

      Hehe, same here. As soon as I saw that it was him in the thumbnail, I dropped whatever else I originally wanted to watch. Dr.Roel is historical click bait!

  • @mr.mentesh8130
    @mr.mentesh8130 11 дней назад +14

    After you build a ditch...you build another...on a serious note this guy is very informative

  • @condorello3746
    @condorello3746 11 дней назад +6

    We're just getting blessed at this point by his presence on youtube

  • @MisterKnightly
    @MisterKnightly 10 дней назад +5

    One hundred points for the proper pronunciation of "Darius."

  • @ven_skywalker7007
    @ven_skywalker7007 11 дней назад +15

    Taking signatures to petition Dr. Ditch to have his own channel here 👇🖋️📜

  • @Rastafaustian
    @Rastafaustian 11 дней назад +17

    The Flintstones: How accurate is it?

  • @benrobson7876
    @benrobson7876 11 дней назад +6

    Absolutely loved this, Roel is fantastic as always.

  • @Ipsifendis
    @Ipsifendis 11 дней назад +2

    i LOVE your review videos, professor K!

  • @t.longfield8982
    @t.longfield8982 11 дней назад +25

    Ah, fijn. Roel heeft er verstand van! Go Roel, you rule!

  • @MartinPurvis
    @MartinPurvis 11 дней назад +60

    Ditchman: The Chronicles

  • @christophercruz1513
    @christophercruz1513 11 дней назад +9

    Give us more of this guy please we love the Ditch guy

  • @ks.kyokudonanshun
    @ks.kyokudonanshun 11 дней назад +4

    I absolutely loved this deep dive. More please!

  • @user-nq7xu6gz7n
    @user-nq7xu6gz7n 11 дней назад +8

    Thank you, great video )

  • @northwall9243
    @northwall9243 11 дней назад +10

    Thoroughly enjoyed that, quality stuff.

  • @Tuilelen
    @Tuilelen 11 дней назад +2

    I just love listening to Roel talk about history

  • @leeborocz-johnson1649
    @leeborocz-johnson1649 11 дней назад +34

    The timing of this film coming out at the height of the Iraq War, its depiction of heroic, strong, independent, manly Western Greeks valiantly sacrificing themselves in heroic battle against effete orientalized subjects of a tyrant who relies upon superstition and terrorist brute force---the Government couldn't have cooked up better propaganda. I don't even think Frank Miller was TRYING to do that, but fundamentally that's what this is.

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali 10 дней назад

      I forgot how fascist this movie is...Homophobia? Strong, incorruptible men against Asiatic hordes? Might makes right? Survival of the fittest? People who are disabled/disfigured are inherently evil? JFC the only thing missing was some happy merchant rubbing his hands together while convincing brown people to shout "God is great!" and blow up a school bus lmao 🤣

    • @elaceyb
      @elaceyb 9 дней назад +5

      I’ve been looking for this comment lol. It couldn’t be any more obvious

    • @GenJuhru
      @GenJuhru 9 дней назад

      During the occupation, which makes the coalition forces the defending faction in the attempted retake of Baghdad by "insurgents" in 06, the year 300 was released.

    • @Colesign
      @Colesign 8 дней назад +2

      The 300 comic book and movie is definitively a response to the War of Terror.
      I've always thought, mind you, that you could easily make a movie where the Persian Empire (the Achaemenid Dynasty, to be precise) is the stand-in for the United States and the Greek city-states are the stand-ins for countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc.

    • @LoganBluth
      @LoganBluth 3 дня назад +1

      @@Colesign Didn't the comic book come out 3 years *_before_* the War on Terror? The comic book at least was just Frank Miller being his usual homophobic, racist self.
      Now *"HOLY TERROR"* from 2011...? Yeah, that 100% *_is_* Frank Miller's response to the War on Terror, and Frank was extremely pro-War on Terror at the time. "Holy Terror" was originally meant to be Batman vs. Al Qaeda, but Miller wanted the hero to be far more kill-crazy than Batman, so he invented a new character called The Fixer to inflict torture and mass-murder on all the brown people Frank thought were coming to get him.

  • @richardjohn5219
    @richardjohn5219 11 дней назад +11

    Very informative and entertaining video

  • @shush2000
    @shush2000 10 дней назад +3

    ANOTHER new video featuring Dr. Dig-a-Ditch? My morning just improved drastically!

  • @nadze13
    @nadze13 11 дней назад +7

    Give us more of Roel deepdives!

  • @BB-pw8ko
    @BB-pw8ko 10 дней назад +1

    Love this!!! NEED so much more of these from this genius man!!

  • @DOSBoxMom
    @DOSBoxMom 11 дней назад +39

    In tabletop RPGs, skimpy female adventurer outfits are often called "distract-the-monsters armor". This Spartan army in "300" is obviously wearing "distract-the-Persians" armor. ;)

    • @maybeyourbaby6486
      @maybeyourbaby6486 10 дней назад +5

      Honestly, the skimpy Spartans is about the only thing I think this movie got totally right. The ancient greeks would've been all over it lol
      Maybe they could've been just a bit more lubed up in olive oil? But other than that, perfectly captures the spirit

  • @peka2478
    @peka2478 11 дней назад +11

    i just love this guy..

  • @gengiful
    @gengiful 11 дней назад +6

    That was really interesting. More of this please

  • @polygondon
    @polygondon 11 дней назад +3

    This video is insane. Thank you

  • @abasudoh7459
    @abasudoh7459 11 дней назад +7

    Dug one ditch then another ditch then somebody said to me, "Why you babysitting, only 2 or 3 ditches? I can show you how to turn a notch..."

  • @white-dragon4424
    @white-dragon4424 11 дней назад +5

    An interesting review. You're enthusiastic but sober, unlike a lot of reviewers.

  • @Storming32
    @Storming32 11 дней назад +5

    The 'Long War' series by Christian Cameron is a great historical fiction for those interested in the Persian Wars.

  • @ShaktiChaturvedi
    @ShaktiChaturvedi 11 дней назад +3

    Time to dig in
    For this breakdown

  • @clivedunn2653
    @clivedunn2653 11 дней назад +3

    Really enjoy the history with this guy

  • @MurderTurtle
    @MurderTurtle 11 дней назад +23

    This movie has very big "made relatively soon after 9/11" vibes

    • @naan-jf9gh
      @naan-jf9gh 11 дней назад +6

      Yep...

    • @jerry12314
      @jerry12314 9 дней назад +1

      Sure lets just forget how its from 1998 comic book.

    • @naan-jf9gh
      @naan-jf9gh 8 дней назад +4

      @@jerry12314 Not like there wasn't ample American involvement prior to 9/11 in the Middle East right?
      Not like the timing of this film as soldiers were being deployed to Iraq was a factor right?
      Stay quiet, adults are speaking.

    • @MurderTurtle
      @MurderTurtle 8 дней назад +3

      @@jerry12314 I said "movie".

    • @jerry12314
      @jerry12314 8 дней назад +1

      @@naan-jf9gh What's that got to do with 300? The movie was scene-by-scene word for word from the comics in 1998.

  • @SusaVile
    @SusaVile 11 дней назад +1

    Hell yeah, my favorite historian is back!

  • @Interislander957
    @Interislander957 11 дней назад

    Really enjoyed this. More please.

  • @blarown
    @blarown 11 дней назад +4

    We need more Konijnendijk!

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 11 дней назад +16

    That was better than the film! Absolutely fascinating. Thank you!

  • @netizensarrest4241
    @netizensarrest4241 10 дней назад

    This was such an enjoyable watch

  • @toumpanis
    @toumpanis 11 дней назад

    I love the part where he actually said about those quotes being delivered by mail and not spoken :) Really good break down! Thank you Mr Roel Konijnendijk

  • @cryptidian3530
    @cryptidian3530 11 дней назад +3

    Love it. Now we need him to break down Alexander.

  • @Kermitthebadger
    @Kermitthebadger 11 дней назад +51

    why do i have such a huge crush on this man? sigh

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 11 дней назад +25

      hey get in line pal

    • @luvahadowsdolls
      @luvahadowsdolls 11 дней назад +11

      You aren't alone honey 😂

    • @kdks7843
      @kdks7843 11 дней назад

      Perhaps because you have a ditch fetish?

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +6

      No idea but you arent alone in that. 😂😅

    • @massi6528
      @massi6528 11 дней назад +3

      Cuz he's a ditch expert?

  • @joosttijsen3559
    @joosttijsen3559 11 дней назад +2

    Bedankt Roel

  • @mozmwhite2513
    @mozmwhite2513 10 дней назад

    Loved this!

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 11 дней назад +13

    The Scottish spartan accent is biblically accurate

  • @eunbitpark5251
    @eunbitpark5251 11 дней назад +3

    Poor Roel! He's exhausted correcting everything 😂😂

  • @aysha5488
    @aysha5488 День назад +1

    Yaay my favorite Historian is back !! ❤❤

  • @trytorang
    @trytorang 10 дней назад

    He explains things very well and is easy to listen too, hope to see him more often in the near future.

  • @kenmarklong
    @kenmarklong 11 дней назад +8

    This guy is awesome

  • @grimnartusk265
    @grimnartusk265 11 дней назад +2

    I’d listen to dude tell me how grass grew differently back then because ditches were dug deeper and the roots got deeper or something.
    Love bro, fantastic video and I’m so damned thrilled to see homie popping up more often. Dude does need a dedicated channel fasho

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali 5 дней назад

      In the movie Gladiator's opening battle scene, the trees aren't historically accurate (I'm not joking). Homogeneous forests in Europe weren't a thing until the late 1800s when reforestation efforts were made to grow more lumber after forests were clear cut and overexploited. That opening scene taking place in 180 AD should have featured all kinds of different trees and plants, not just the firs shown in the film.
      Wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy knew about what kind of grasses were growing in ancient Greece lmao

  • @carston101
    @carston101 16 часов назад

    "Spartans!! What is your profession?!!"
    Inaccurate as it may be, it's still one of my favorite moments of the film.

  • @carlhamilton6628
    @carlhamilton6628 8 дней назад

    This was great!!🎉

  • @ccptube3468
    @ccptube3468 11 дней назад +5

    Best War Historian Ever

  • @RainKoepke-ic3gf
    @RainKoepke-ic3gf 11 дней назад +20

    If i recall, hitorically king Leonidas was an old man. Near the official retirement age like 60, he still went and fought and died in battle.

    • @malakaspawt3190
      @malakaspawt3190 9 дней назад +2

      55yo Leonidas would kick any modern (2024) average man of 20-40yo.
      An average 40yo man from 1940 fighting an average 40yo man from 2024, the 40yo from 1940 kicks the 2024 guy's ass!

    • @terrycruise-zd5tw
      @terrycruise-zd5tw 7 дней назад +2

      @@malakaspawt3190 yep, spear and shield vs gun

    • @malakaspawt3190
      @malakaspawt3190 7 дней назад +1

      @@terrycruise-zd5tw I meant with no weapons in hand-to-hand combat.

    • @RainKoepke-ic3gf
      @RainKoepke-ic3gf 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@malakaspawt3190I never that much thought to his health and fitness in regards to his age in spartan times vs now. He probably would've looked phenomenal knowing how fit and well fed the Spartans were at this junction

  • @TakijKishi
    @TakijKishi 11 дней назад +1

    Very good content

  • @warriorkid
    @warriorkid 10 дней назад +1

    I remember studying ancient history at uni and we covered the ancient world in film. I did NOT realise how many oriental tropes this film had as a young boy
    Shout out to Orientalism by Ed Said

  • @christophercruz1513
    @christophercruz1513 11 дней назад +17

    History hit is awesome and we like this guy

    • @hissingsidll750
      @hissingsidll750 11 дней назад

      Pedantic tvvat

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +3

      ​@@hissingsidll750You? Maybe. Dr.Roel? NEVER EVER. 😅 He is awesome.

  • @aminahamdkhaniha6738
    @aminahamdkhaniha6738 11 дней назад +28

    As a iranian I would like to add some things to this the first and most important is the Persians were famous for being merciful Syrus the great is the oldest known in history that created human rights ( syrus cylinder) so the fact that they show Persians as this barbaric kings and generals is just disrespectful second thing is about the immortals they were called immortals beacuse they looked similar to each other when one died in the field one other person took the others place so in the fight it looked like their not dying atleast what our history books said the last thing is persian cavalry is exactly very old and was a persian version of the cataphract it so basically the cataphract which was a roman was romes response to the persian caverly.

    • @aminahamdkhaniha6738
      @aminahamdkhaniha6738 11 дней назад +8

      I also like to add one last thing Persians were zerastrians (spelling might be off) the 3 most famous qoutes of ahora mazda was say no evil do no evil hear no evil

    • @jimmyandersson9938
      @jimmyandersson9938 9 дней назад

      I heard some Iranians saying the word " immortal " is in fact wrong, they were called something more similiar to " companions " like the Macedonian cavalry, but no idea whats correct. Persians were indeed famous for being merciful with human rights, and should have much credit for it.
      But they were also a global expanding empired who waged war all over the known world, so Persians being the " bad guy " in some movies is just normal, just like the Brittish empire, Romans etc. Also many people revolted against them, Egyptians were treated very poorly for example which lead to one of the many uprisings that happend.

    • @aminahamdkhaniha6738
      @aminahamdkhaniha6738 9 дней назад +1

      @@jimmyandersson9938 I've heard that also but in our history books they are called az "javidan" as in never dying or immortal but I know what your saying it's very uncommon

    • @valantisxiotis938
      @valantisxiotis938 8 дней назад

      The elite Persian force was called "immortals" because they replaced the dead soldiers as soon as they could,so the force had always the same number of soldiers,so they were typically "immortals"

    • @FilmingFish
      @FilmingFish 6 дней назад

      As an Iranian you may have been presented with a somewhat whitewashed version Persian history when you were raised.
      The Persian’s granted more autonomy than other empires of their era to those who surrendered to them, but those who resisted (i.e. tried to maintain their independence/freedom) were still colonised, massacred and enslaved. They may have been more lenient to the people who accepted subjugation, but they were just as brutal as others to those who defended themselves from Persian imperialism.
      People would probably be less inclined to show ancient Persian kings and generals as barbaric if their ancestors hadn’t been attacked and enslaved by them. This is a stylized depiction of a fairly barbaric slave-empire (even if others at the time were barbaric too by modern standards).

  • @j0zefina
    @j0zefina 10 дней назад

    I LOVED this video!

  • @aaronbachstein2591
    @aaronbachstein2591 10 дней назад

    This was just great!

  • @reddevilsunited_2060
    @reddevilsunited_2060 11 дней назад +5

    I would like to see him go over the 2nd movie as well.

  • @bloodycroissant8978
    @bloodycroissant8978 9 дней назад +4

    Yes yes, we all know the movie is adapted from a comic book, especially when it's mentioned in the beginning of the video. While the movie and the comic lean more towards fantasy, this video provides a look on the more historical side of the story that inspired them. So I don't know what some people shitting their diapers about.

  • @raymundofelix3893
    @raymundofelix3893 11 дней назад +1

    HE'S BACK YESSSS

  • @Trapshooter37
    @Trapshooter37 10 дней назад

    Great video

  • @guilhermedomingues6360
    @guilhermedomingues6360 11 дней назад +37

    I am a simple guy i see the ditchman i click

  • @JanOndrejPA
    @JanOndrejPA 10 дней назад +7

    I love this guy. I think he is so unique and entertaining because you can see how interested and in love he is with his subject, and that intrinsic motivation is contagious. For me at least.

  • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
    @thomaschristopherwhite9043 11 дней назад +2

    He's back!

  • @OllihuAkbar
    @OllihuAkbar 3 дня назад +2

    I have to point out that this is a movie with an unreliable narrator - it is revealed at the end that the story is being told by a member of the Spartan army who does everything he can to persuade others to his side, most likely altering the story to fit his purpose.

  • @brianreeves4655
    @brianreeves4655 11 дней назад +3

    Not enough ditch content, but still great stuff

  • @Vinceras
    @Vinceras 11 дней назад +12

    I could watch him speak on Ancient Greek history all day long. Seriously...where is his youtube channel??

    • @nachtschatten8710
      @nachtschatten8710 11 дней назад +6

      He doesnt have one. 😢 Only those fortunates who study at his university get to listen to him all the time,- which I find is a shame as even his lectures arent all uploaded. We clearly need more Dr.Roel

  • @mkatefr
    @mkatefr 10 дней назад

    Thank you!

  • @kieran2221
    @kieran2221 11 дней назад +1

    Oh, thank you for that. It definitely made me laugh!