Historian REACTS to 'Gladiator II' Trailer
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Tristan Hughes, host of ‘The Ancients’ podcast and mega fan of Ridley Scott’s blockbuster classic Gladiator (2000), reacts to the new trailer for the much anticipated sequel, ‘Gladiator II’, starring Paul Mescal, Denzel Washington and Pedro Pascal.
When will the story take place? Did naval reenactments happen in the Colosseum? Did rhinos fight gladiators? Will Russell Crowe return? Tristan answers all.
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00:00 Introduction
00:52 Trailer Starts
01:16 North Africa
02:06 Roman Triumph
02:46 Flooding the Colosseum (Naval Reenactments)
05:49 Emperors Caracalla and Geta
08:30 Naval Siege
10:44 Rhino Gladiator
12:39 Marcus Opellius Macrinus (Denzel Washington)
14:41 Roman Pilum
15:45 The Plot Thickens
18:56 Final Thoughts
I think the North Africa bit was in Egypt. Just a vibe i was getting... Ok maybe the pyramids in the background gave it away
haha
pyramids were/are in more places than Egypt
Tbh I thought is was the same place as in the first movie, look at the arena there and compare it to the one from the first movie. Looks pretty darn similar. So I'd wager Numidia, maybe Lybia.
Yeah I wasn't quite sure if he was doing a bit here or something
it might be the pyramid in Bosnia 🗿
I laughed so hard when he said “ aah yes, the old throw the dust in the eyes of a rhino trick” Brilliant!
I never understood this scenes. The wall was there before he threw dust in its face. He was going full speed anyway. Absurd, but entertaining nonetheless.
It's entertainment. People don't pay money to be educated. For most folks I've met, the Hollywood version is good enough.
In the movie they explain…
How Romes A.I. Came up with that defensive tactic…
Works every time, every generation😂
Bloodsport…wait…didnt work😢 made him STRONGER somehow😅
Film turned into James and the Giant Peach for 5 seconds.
@@luckyspurs ahhh... someone who remembers that classic ✌🏿✌🏿
(Rhino Enters)
“Right. Okay. Yes. Um. Sooo…”
British Historian Ennui summed up in one moment 😂
I burst out laughing at the rhinos too. I think I'll have to get SUPER DRUNK to watch it for funsies.
Ridley wanted rhinos and the original. Cool full circle moment.
Someone watched Black panther...
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p believe me if they could had figure out how to ride rhino the same way they figure out how to domesticate elephants. we would had rhino calvery.
I don't really get Caracalla's depiction. He was supposed to be a soldier Emperor who had little patience for politics and the court. The whole reason he was regarded as a bad Emperor was because he lavished the military, and absconded his duties as Emperor to go on campaign all the time. The depiction we see here looks more like John Hurt's Caligula from I, Claudius.
It also just doesn't look anything like the depictions we have. While his general "gruffness" might have been exaggerated, he has a beard in every single adult depiction I could find.
i love the Severan dynasty because of their chaos, but yeah, this depiction is not... great.... But Ridley Scott is just not great at accuracy.
@@MildPsychedelic I think you mean "eschewed" where you said "absconded"
If this was Elagabalus, then maybe ok...
@@ThutUPB Literally when I first saw the pics, I thought for sure one of them was Elagabalus. I don't follow any kind of entertainment news so I had no idea what the plan was. it confused me a lot when I saw one of them was Caracalla.
Gladiator didn't need a second movie.
@@johnsontamati8991 it barely needed a first
At leastvthey have done an smart historical based story and didn't resucitate the main character like in sooo many other movies that everybody watched (avengers, Fast&F, extraction, john wick anybody?)
Exactly.
I mean sure but we also didn’t need a first. But fuck it, rule of cool applied
There's nothing to add to the first, so I guess that it's just free-riding on the success of the title of the first. Most of the public aren't very picky anyway.
Let's hope the production can survive on its own merits.
Historical accuracy isn't an issue so for those who care about that, choose to pay the ticket anyway and are disappointed only have themselves to blame.
As much as I roll my eyes at sharks in the naumachia scene, I feel confident that the romans would've absolutely put sharks in if they could've.
Edit: I'm going to summarize the point that everyone is making below. While there are great white sharks in Mediterranean. They had no way of transporting and sustaining sharks at that time, considering how difficult it is to transport large sharks using today's technology. Additionally, the colosseum was filled with fresh water from the Tiber, not sea water as Rome is not a coastal city. Saltwater fish have evolved to deal with sea water's high salt content by constantly drinking the water and excreting the excess salt through their gills and urine. This is the exact opposite adaptation used in freshwater fish which are trying to conserve the salt they collect. Putting a shark in freshwater would cause it to lose all its salt and die, and one of the few sharks that can survive in freshwater, the bull shark, isn't found along European coastlines and in the Mediterranean.
sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads 😁😁😁
i laughed so hard at the sharks. It was so stupid and awesome.
i imagine they filled water with aqueducts so idk if sharks would have survived
It would be impossible for sharks to have been in the coloseum. The water came from aquaducts meaning its fresh water.
@@olorin3815it did come from aquaducts. It was the ones used to fill neros massive pool in front of his palace and after neros death the coloseum was built where the pool was. Archeologists have explored up the tunnel underneath the coloseum. Sharks would have died almost immediately
Ridley Scott is the biggest hack going. Whatever magic he managed to make with the original gladiator he's long since lost, this looks even more stupid than Napoleon
I mean he is almost 90 , for sure everything he once had is long gone
A prequel would have been better about Maximus and his origins to becoming a general.
Yes, yes ,yes ,yes Brilliant idea.
nah couldnt care less, tired of prequals. just leave it alone like it should always have been.this film is everything bad about modern movies in a nutshell.lazy and actors taking a quick cash grab.
They need to do one of these “Historian Reacts” episodes for the Spartacus TV series, and then just show him every sex scene out of context and out of order.
They need Kate Lister as well for that
i wasnt interested in watching the arena series but after they escaped i loved it.
@@richardbradley2335 The only drawback in the show was the real-life death of the hottest man on the planet. Aside from that, the show was way better than it had any business being. Quality throughout including the final season, makes it better than GoT in my book.
@@OgYokYok GoT...over praised...it relied on sheer nastiness at times...guts /c word etc.
Sooo many dongs...
"Excuse me, mate, were you there? No? Well, shut the fuck up then." - Ridley Scott
The 'mound of mud with sticks on the side' is also commonly present in Egypt as rural pigeon coops. Still used till today
So Egyptians pegion coups are more sophisticated than african ,rings tombs
as hinted by the Pyramids just behind the 'sticky mud', there is a possibility it IS Egypt =)))
The real question is do the sharks have fricking laser beams?
Of course, Caracalla believes every animal deserves a warm meal!
No but they arrive via tornado.
I am so glad that trailers now tell me when they start. Previously I would click on one and an ad would play. This would confuse me to no end. "Why are they wearing Hokas in Ancient Rome? Do the characters in A Quiet Place only use meal delivery services?"
Do we know for certain Ridley Scott didn't just get Caligula and Caracalla mixed up.
Given the casting.
Very Caligula-esque, right?
I have a feeling Pedro and Denzel will do their best to carry this movie, but it'll probably struggle to be good and get a Napoleon like criticism for Scott again.
Denzel is playing Denzel. Terrible choice.
@@coldworld5i love Ridley and im all in for this, but yeah, denzel is a terrible choice unfortunately...his mannerism and facial expressions are phenomenal, the problem is when he talks, like wth?!
@@coldworld5man shut up
I highly doubt that
You underestimate Paul Mescal. He’s a legitimately great actor and will be a star if this movie does well at the box office.
Cassius Dio is also known for a collection of poems called "Holius Diveus".
😂
Qui rokit rokes?
I think Ridley Scott's issue is he hasn't adapted to the fact that pretty much everyone who's going to watch this movie has access to all the knowledge of the universe in their pockets. Gone are the days that you just rolled with what you saw on a film, because you didn't have all ten volumes of "The History of Rome" to fact check, and he needs to understand that dumb, jarring historical inaccuracies really takes people out of the experience and ruins what could be an incredible film, with amazing bits of subtle historical detail (like HBO Rome). I'm sure Ridley also has the knowledge of the universe in his pocket, so it just comes across as lazy when he willingly ignores these things.
"I wonder if it's a nod to the historical..."
It isn't. It's what Ridley Scott had laying about.
I can see the pitch to Denzel -
"So Denzel, you'll be playing Macrinus, he becomes emperor after the death of Caracalla".
"Great, so is he a great sexy, brooding military hero?"
"Not quite - he was Caracalla's principal financial officer on campaign and became emperor after murdering Caracalla while Caracalla was on the toilet."
“Hmm - rewrite that”.
Until Spielberg’s Stanley Kubrick Napoleon series comes out, I’ve just given up all hope. I still think Dan Snow secretly wants to punch Ridley Scott in the face for duping him and all of us into having any shimmer of hope for Napoleon to be accurate in any way prior to it’s release.
Nobody cares about any of that 😂 spielberg is trash, and Napoleon wasn't supposed to be a history channel episode anyway.
Yesss !!! I held off to excitedly watch Napoleon and it was soooo horrible I just lost interest and didn't even finish the last third of the film. It reminded me of that Rock me Amadeus vibe. This looks at least equally as bad.
@@mozer8035 when your level of Cinema is Teletubbies & Finding Nemo, of course it's bad 😂 embarrassing to say the least. Go sleep
Hollywood never gets history right. Even the original Gladiator was full of mistakes and nonsense but at least it looked good, had compelling characters and was entertaining. Now even entertainment is outside of Hollywood's wheelhouse.
Alexander would like to have a word.
Bro at least watch the movie
I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about the Roman Empire becase I don't, however I love Gladiator (it's my 3rd favorite film of all time and I was done watching it through for the seventh time before ths trailer came out) it's one of the most beautiful films ever made. I am also very into films and story structures as well as detailed critisizm.
After watching this trailer twice, in my own opinion (compared to it's predecessor) this looks like absoulute glossed up nonsense which is sad because thats a harsh truth that adorns many modern films. The first film (while by no means historically accurate in any regard) was perfectly fit together into a masterpiece. The cinematogrophy, the composition, the locations, the dilouge, the goals and intentions, the theme, the characterisation and the music (I listen to Now we are free at least once every day it's such a beautiful piece of music, speaking of which who puts a slowed rapper's corus as the theme to a trailer about the Roman Empire) it all just fits together like a jigsaw creating a perfect image, one of a Father/Husband's undbounded love for his Wife and Son.
This just looks like they took all the epicness, special effects, CGI and Sound effects they had availble and crammed it all into the same jar and forced the lid on. Now I obviously haven't seen the film, none of us have yet. But based on what this trailer is offering for the film, it feels dissapointing.
P.S
When the Gladiator riding the Rhino entered the frame, I was laughing histerically because it felt like the Tigris of Ghaul from the first movie (don't worry I know that he is probably dead by this point) walked back into the Colleseum and was like 'Hello boys, I'M BACK!!'.
I might criticize the criticism. Even at the beginning Tristan is being very careful. He does not want to dismiss the intended africanism. The Romans living in Africa (which is a Latin word) lived as Romans. They would have built Roman structures and lived in Roman ways. What is associated with Black Africa today was not there and still is not. In fact the Moslem Arabs living there today are very anti-black and do not have any sort of architecture that resembles anything from south of the Sahara. This africanism is more for the American audience. The Romans in northern Africa were very Roman. In fact they maintained speaking Latin and many other Latin customs when the Romans in Latium or the area around Rome had been somewhat Hellenized.
Most of the people living in Roman North Africa were either Punic descendants of the Phoenicians or Berbers, neither of which would be Black populations, though there would have been Black Africans as well. And yes, Romans living as Romans. North Africa was and is a multiethnic, multiracial mixing pot. There is anti-Black racism in that part of the world now, but it’s not because Black people are absent from that part of the world. Cursory review of the history would teach you this.
How can u be so wrong and loud at the same time😂😂the very building style u see ha called Egypt (which aint).the ones with sticks pointing out is actually a west african style that extends up north.also arabs only built mosques and bazars but most of thm live in tents....i get the "blacks"put u off but try to keep it in your pants
@@wambokodavid7109 You need to watch again. There are pyramids in the background. The pyramids that would have existed in Algeria at this time looked very different.
@@wambokodavid7109 Most Arabs do not live in tents. And West Africa is not the same as North Africa. Culturally or ethnically
@@wambokodavid7109 Sorry to say that since your English is so poor and disorganized, I really cannot respond to what you are trying to say. Would you care to try again?
The next epic by Ridley Scott is the life of Ragnar lothbrok, and in it, he has a flying unicorn that he flies over the saxons shitting red hot skittles while shouting WHAKANDA FOREVER
With Denzel Washington as Ragnar, Netflix standards for historical accuracy
Probably be more true to life than Robin Hood and this money grab will likely be the same
I want that movie
@@drewfischer316sadly me too 😂😂
Only slightly more exaggerated than the actual Ragnar Lothbrok😂
Rhino's can barely see, so why would you use sand to blind it? Maybe I misinterpreted the scene.
Would a gladiator know that though? I mean how would he would he learn that rhinos are nearsighted?
So originally Joseph Quinn was playing Caracalla BUT 3 weeks ago the names without any announcements got switched because the IDMB/interviews got changed and personally I still think he’s technically playing Caracalla because he seems more psychotic and more like the one controlling the empire compared to Fred Hechinger who just seems happy to be there (I mean did replace Barry Keoghan)
Would make sense given Quinn is the older of the two.
I agree, but it was clearly stated in the Vanity Fair piece. I doubt they got that wrong.
Tristan on the previous video: "just don't do naval battle re-enactments in the Colosseum".
Oh.
Didn't realise they had diesel back then. Useful for the explosions though.
It's called greek fire.
@@swunt10 not with romans at that tim this aint eastern roman empire aka Byzantium
@@user-sf4io3tp8l Greek fire is quit old, also they did use petrol bombs and stuff like that. perfectly plausible.
Am I the only one confused by a historian not noticing Denzel incorrectly using the term 'Colosseum' in the trailer? No one at that time would've called it that, as it was known as the Flavian Amphitheater to them.
Oh yeah I caught that too but just an over sight 🤷♂️
The general public dont know what the fuck that means
Why would it be referred to as something that no one in the audience would recognize?
I get why in the movie they would call it the Colosseum, the point is that the historian didn't talk about its actual name.
And yet Proximo called it the coliseum in the first movie. Just stop.
Somethings should be left alone.
That's what I'm thinking, yeah..
I said that after watching Prometheus.
I agree , leave that classic alone . Maybe make another movie set in that era but not a part 2
There was a slave riot in rome 73 B.C. most people know the name of the "leader" of this riot, Spartacus. This could be a very interesting topic, even though it is a bit earlier. In those times the romans had a few slave riots, Spartacus was only the most famous I belive, so lots of potential stories, even with a relatively similar premise.
@@fleatight8221 Why tell the Spartacus story again? The Kirk Douglas movie and more recent raunchy TV series has already been done.
After Napoleon I’m expecting to see Lucius with a laptop and a mobile phone!
I will remain very skeptical after seeing Napoleon. The trailer for Napoleon made the movie to look better than it actually was. That movie had so much potential and most of it was based off of his relationship with Josephine. So disappointed in that. When a movie comes out on one of the greatest military strategists of all time, we expect more battle scenes than the small clips we got in that movie. At the end of that movie, I honestly wanted my money back. Lol I really hope Gladiator II makes up for it. 🤞
@@1chadbook you're going to be so very disappointed
I switched Napoleon off more woke tripe
Definitely made Josephine look far more important than she actually was.
And the battle scenes were awful too.
Battle scenes were absolutely EPIC and stunning, visually speaking that movie was top tier level, cinematography, colour grading, superbly directed from a technical point of view, sure the writing was not as good as the visuals but those 3/4 battles were epic to see on screen nonetheless. Gladiator II looks epic too, lets hope the writing is alla par with the visuals.
How on earth would the Romans have been able to transport sharks and keep them alive during that time?
Hey, they created cement and greek fire, I don't doubt anything
They put them in their water channels and ride them because it's cool
It's actually a little known fact that the Romans revolutionized the study of marine biology.
If you take this approach to watch films I'm afraid you're robbing yourself of great joy.
@@nigelnyoni8265 I'm not a historical accuracy nerd. I'm able to suspend disbelief, but this is a genuine question I'm asking. If this actually happened, then how?
Golden armour I could understand, but why are Caracalla and Geta wearing such gawdy makeup?
I think R. Scott wants to blend them into the character of emperor Elagabalus.
Its possibly also a nod to the madness of the film 'Caligula'
macrinus was of berber ancestry, he was not subsaharan African.
It's that descriptor "African" that they continue to distort; they have done the same with Augustine of Hippo.
Except he didn’t say he was from subsaharan African. He said he was from North Africa and Cherchell Algeria is where Macrinus is believed to have been born.
@@d-SonOfWillI think the complain here is that Algerian Berbers overwhelmingly do not look like this. Quickly googling Algerian Amizagh and reading about the history of the Berber people, and the genetic history of North Africa more broadly is worthwhile. Casting him as a Black man is as inaccurate as casting him as a Swede. The notion that indigenous African people are by necessity “Black” is just another example of Western ignorance.
@@smyers9052but wasn't North Africa more black at this time,,, Pre Arab conquest?? I don't know,, just guessing
@@markmorris7123 It was less Black because before the Arab conquest was also before the Islamic slave trade. Of course, it depends on where you’re talking about. Mauritania is North Africa, as I understand that and to an extent parts of Morocco have always been more of a mix. But the ancestral Berber population is not Black. Their ancestors - who are best represented by the Guanches of the Canary Islands - migrated back to Africa much later in human history. If you look up the Canary Islanders or the Amizagh of Algeria or Tunisia - who are not Arab - you’ll have a good sense for what I’m referring to. The Arab conquest brought a ton of population churn to North Africa and the Sahel, as did colonialism. Those were major factors in bringing more ethnic diversity to North Africa. Of course, there have always been Black people in those places as well, don’t misunderstand. But the genetic record shows less, not more, in ancient times.
I knew there were going to be problems as soon as I heard that they were making a sequel. Scott already went off the historical rails by having young Lucius Verus still alive. He died very young, before Commodus became emperor. Never mind the historical inaccuracy of Commodus' death. And I was certain that there was no way Scott (and screenwriter David Scarpa who helped Scott turn Naopleon's story into a romance) was going to do justice to the Year of Five Emperors or the end result being the short-lived but at least longer Severan dynasty.
This is going to be Gladiator: Covenant.
Lol
Joesph Quinn is indeed playing Caracalla.
Fred Hechinger plays Geta.
And yet on IMDB it's the other way around?
A typo perhaps?
@@ethancoster1324 interesting, got my info on the letterboxd page.
Not according to the Vanity Fair "first look" editorial.
How would the Romans have caught and transported live sharks ? The Colosseum was also fresh water not salt.
Records indicate they may have had Crocodiles in the water though.
Fresh water will not kill a saltwater species immediately just because it swims in it. It will end up causing it, but not immediately. Also, freshwater sharks are very much a thing. Not giant great white looking sharks, but still freshwater sharks do very much exist.
@@whyjnot420 I'm Australian, I know several species are capable of tolerating brackish water.
How do you think the Romans caught and transported large sharks 2000yrs ago in oxygenated salt water without killing them ?
Think about it, it's even difficult NOW !!
@@whyjnot420 They do indeed exist. However, many sharks are notoriously fragile in terms of transportation and the Bull Shark, the only shark that fits the bill (maneater, freshwater tolerant) is found quite some way from Rome, the closest being parts of the Persian Gulf and off the coast of what is now Morocco and Western Sahara.
Not that Rome didn't get around - we know there were animal catching expeditions that went past Roman boundaries - but this is too much of a stretch. The crocodile thing is correct though (I think) but it's 30 years or more since I was at uni.
@@PortilloMoment Thank you for the extra detail. I didn't bother typing it all out, as I sensed I was talking to someone who had a very poor grasp of the logistics..
@@PortilloMoment Yeah, the transportation aspect is the real kicker. I completely agree with questioning that part of the movie, hence why I didn't touch it.
As with all historical blockbuster movies, the historical accuracy is all over the place. Best to think of them as alternative history or being in a parallel universe. I find it helps
Fairly confident that Pedro and Paul will team up against their true foe
most people would assume the 1:42 part to be in Egypt due to the pyramids in the background
Maybe the Greek helmet and siege tower on the ship were specific to please the emperors, given the fascination with Alexander. And if it’s not a named battle the organisers could and would, presumably, borrow from any period of their history. Them’s my theories and I’ll happily believe them when I’m watching the film. I can’t wait either! 😊
I was half expecting Denzel to be Septimius Severus tbh
Netflix gladiator
Then you cound not have really white guys portraying his sons. Considering what has been written about the two emperors background the casting looks weird. Why not cast actors that would look believable if you claim them to be historical figures?
The Black Pope
@@icemanespoo2977 Yeah, all folks have to do is google "the Severan tondo" to see what the two brothers Carcalla and Geta would have looked like. Call me crazy but I'm skeptical a North African man and a Syrian woman would have two produced two pasty blond English boys.
It get's more and more confusing because the timeline is the last thing they care about.
Total war shoutout
Used to like some of the old Roman epics, even though they were almost always psuedo-biblical stories where Romans played the a+holes, but the spectacle could be entertaining. I like the new direction where the fascination is with the Romans, and we don't have to wait for the scene where everybody has to stop, stare, fall to their knees and start crying because Jesus just strolled by.
I fear this will change peoples perception of the original Gladiator which should have been left to age like a fine wine, It didn't need a sequel.
I am so glad you guys made this video! Was hoping you would
Great t-shirt, where you get it?
I hate when the pyramids get into walking around North Africa getting all in movies
I believe it’s for general audiences to understand that the scene is taking place in North Africa
Can't see another comment addressing this but amphitheatre in trailer has wooden poles on it for canvas that the Romans hung between the poles for shade, so it's a trivial thing but I'm disappointed they did not hang canvas.
When asked about historical accuracy Ridley Scott replied - "You weren't there" :D xD
Don’t be surprised when battle scenes last 30 seconds 😂😂
Just what Tristan wanted.......naval battles in the Colosseum!!!!
Echoes of water world
First thing I thought. It's literally in the first minute of the trailer.
How difficult was it to replace Sharks with Nile crocs??
In 211 AD? Impossible. Ancient Egypt didn't produce croslite.
I want to watch a film that depicts that construction of an ancient coliseum. That would be sick!
There is a list of Roman emperors in Wikipedia, with their busts, and it is clear that Geta was not a child when he was killed by his older brother Karakala. Geta was 22 when he was killed. Also a look at the Macrinus bust tells us that he was caucasian.
Cassius Dio described him as a “moor”.
What race was 'Draba' in Spartacus? Or how about Juba in the OG with Crowe? Oh yeah, they were characters in WORKS of FICTION so them not being Italian wouldn't matter.
"Probably Numidia" - seemingly ignores the giant pyramids in the background.... ;P
It does not necessarily mean the same scene location. As not every city or town is always Rome.
In the movie, it is Numidia
@@smyers9052 Ah of course, its right by the Giza-level pyramids in Numidia,. I can't believe i forgot those.....
@@carlhassler5336 Lol, I don’t have an explanation for the pyramids in the background of that shot. But what I can tell you is that a cursory review of the film’s plot will make it clear that, in fact, the story does take place in Numidia.
@@smyers9052 I can understand that The province of Numidia (being right next to the province of Africa proconsularis; the home province of the Septimians) would heavily feature in the movie. But it having any pyramids seems dubious. If these movie producers want to show any semblance of historicity then I hope to god this particular scene is unrelated and does not depict Numidia.
Love your podcast and thanks for this commentary!
I'm very interested in knowing how the heck they managed to transport sharks to the Colosseum without killing them. We can barely do that today.
I love how this guy is very down to earth and isn't snarky or pessimistic against movies like this just because of the historical inaccuracy, I do appreciate historical accuracy, but this is still entertainment and you should view it as such, u'll have way more fun ;)
Yes he’s been gracious and that’s difficult for lots of academics
@@TheSquad4life no its not
I do think sadly they were wrong at the end of the last video when they said it was be a box office hit.
But yes, like the optimism.
Well the costumes are one of the first wrong things, yikes. We all know that they didn't wear leather that was black or white like that. Just absurd.
I was also intrigued by the two brothers wearing heavy make up. I know ancient Egyptian men wore cosmetics, but have never heard of Roman men doing the same.
ironically they jumped the shark with riding a rhino!
the rome 2 total war gastraphetes throwback made me crack up. i imediately thought of that. hahahah
Riddle Scot will probably tell you to get a life for that
I mean this is not a documentary, so wanting a history lesson is just plain stupid
@@Yuuki_Asunaagreed, people don't even know what "entertainment" is nowadays. Im Italian and i saw the first Gladiator when it came out, we all knew it wasn't historical or any of that, just nobody cared and everyone enjoyed it.
Ridley should have left it alone. Gladiator is one of my favorite movies of all time and really did not need a sequel -especially one with Pedro Pascal! I am unable to understand the fascination with this dude but he is not an epic heavy-hitter!!! I'll watch the movie and reserve my judgement (as I did in Napoleon) so we shall see...Iacta Alea Est!
It's just name recognition. Pascal is hot shit at the moment, last of us etc, so hea going to get picked for big roles
12:32 - "Ah, yes, the throw dust infront of the rhino trick".
also that gladius that pedro pascal is showing at 14:39 is a little too thin in my opinion , it looks like the fulham pattern but still looks too thin
my question is more, why they changed the face of young lucius?!?!?
Yeah I know, I would love to know their thought process when thay did that. Also it shows Lucius walking out of the Collesseum with Lucilla when in the movie he leaves Lucilla in the Collesseum and follows the Guards carrying Maximus' body out of the arena.
Damnatio memoriae = condemnation of memory
@@valentintapata2268 Ah ok, intresting
Hollywood really scraping the barrel these days 😂. No talent in creative writing at all.
Loved it! Learned a lot, thanks!
Love Tristan and the Ancients! Love these reactions! I can't believe they made a sequel to Gladiator. I'm excited to see it!
I don't know if Hans Zimmer was busy this time around or something, but I really hope the movie doesn't have rap music during the arena scenes. Hopefully that was just for the trailer while the score is being completed (fingers crossed). I don't dislike rap music or anything it just seems out of place here.
Well I don't think that ancient Roman music was close to Hans Zimmer either
@@noreligionisthebestreligion That is actually a pretty good point.
It’s just a trailer… the original trailer wasn’t Zimmer either they used Conan The Barbarian - The Anvil of Crom (I remember because when I heard the song playing with the Universal logo I thought they were going to show a trailer for Conan 3 then I saw Russell Crowe and I was like WTF…)
I'm glad you admit that this is Hollywood entertainment. If anyone out there really thought Gladiator was a documentary, they are really gullible. Same goes for Gladiator II. Probably will be entertaining, but not accurate as history.
A movie can be entertaining and historical accurate. History itself is pretty much entertaining without change it.
I bet it's gonna be a shit show like napoleon
Now I want to see a historian reacting to total war games.
The first Gladiator movie was such a enjoyable watch and a stand-alone film with a distinct ending but I suppose with todays lack of originality and penchant for sequels we can't be surprised at another one.
About the Sharks: how do they get the Seawater (most sharks can't survive in freshwater) to the colosseum ? 🤔
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Numidians were not sub-saharan black, they would resemble modern day Algerians/Amazigh
No such thing as subsahran black
He's as much of an historian as I'm astronaut.
there are also the tuaregs tho
There were plenty of black Africans living in North Africa back then, there still are plenty still living in North Africa today, have a look at the Berbers for instance. North African demographics have been drastically altered by many events since that time, the Arab incursions for instance had a huge influence, populations would have been more diverse.
@@mrdeurknopp The only problem is - we know exactly how Macrinus looked thanks to sculptures, coins... He didnt got black person features. Sure was probably dark skinned but looked nothing like Denzel. Funny you mentioned Berbers because Macrinus was indeed of that origin. And look how Berbers are portrait - they were not black - not all of them anyways. Neither Macrinus or King Massinissa whom Berbers consider their forefather looked black. I am sure Denzel will do a good job but fact is that black Macrinus is as truthful as riding rhinoceros.
Awesome video. You look so excited. Love it.
I think its safe to say this wont be winning any Oscars.
He's a fan of Total War. Cool.
No it’s not North Africa it’s the kush empire which is now modern day Sudan situated on the coast of the Red Sea.
In the context of the film, it is North Africa
‘Connie Neilson reprising her role.’
My favourite part of the whole video, I think.
TW: Rome 2 and Attila!!! Nice, those games are awesome!
Rhino's have a similar temperment to Labradors which makes this trailer all the more disturbing.
Rhinos don't charge people? you cant agitate a Rhinos overly judgemental shut up
Hilarious...🙄
A rhino sized Labrador would be absolutely deadly, though not on purpose!
Unless I missed it, Pedro's facial hair wasn't discussed. I always thought Romans thought facial hair and long hair was barbaric and kept their hair short and beards shaved, no?
Well, when he's talking about the father of the brothers who ruled together they show a bust of their father and he has a full beard. See 6:35. I suppose this is late Roman history so the fashions may have changed by then so what you're saying might be correct about an earlier period.
Not by this period, lots of emperors with beards at that time
Brilliant video, thank you. When I saw the water filled Colosseum, I was "yeah right, they had to do something this inaccurate...". And it's historically accurate, at least partially! And a friend of mine was certain the rhino scene was true of those times and we learn no, not quite like depicted here. So without your video, we would have been very wrong about the trailer.
Denzel is one of my favorite actors but.. "Once again, we're seeing historical blackwashing with the casting of Macrinus, a Roman emperor of Numidian (Amazigh) descent, being portrayed by a black actor" (I am North African)
well a black complexion amazigh/berber is not out of the table tho if you look into the tuaregs but ye the person in question seemed to be of a more light complexion...
Someone said blacks appear in Morocco and Algeria. Most of those are descendants of black women brought to harems much later. Numidians would have looked like Algerians.
North Africans get totally shafted by Hollywood for some reason even though the region was a big part to Mediterranean civilizations.
Oh please, spare us that grandstanding pseudo-contrarian for the sake of contrarianism bs. There exists people of dark complexion from Algeria and Morocco, and the berbers were no exception to this with some having darker complexions going back to antiquity.
lost me with the sharks ....ridiculous. might as well be sharknado at that point
Good to see a mandalororian in the arena
I think it is contender for comedy of the year, I laughed super hard at this.
I think the intro is set in Egypt. Just a hunch.
What makes you think you're in a postion to disagree with a qualifed Histor... Oh wait, I see. 😅
@@resh.. he probably missed the pyramids and editor froze on pyramids frame to troll him
We don't live in those kind of architecture in north africa mauretania cesarean, we build with stone, not accurate like the macrinus character. there is a lot of Numidians and romanized berbers depiction. Not west africans, the Kabyle people live in those area since always.
"in ny nerdy ways" -- thanks Tristan for representing all us armchair historians so well with this and our collective head-shaking throughout the trailer
Im surprised nobody has either noted or put together that Denzel is portraying Macrinius. Probably the dispute between Macrinius and Caracalla after Caracalla has Geta assassinated.
I cringe every time I heard "Gladiator one"
The one film that doesn't need a sequel.
I don't really think people watch these films for their historical accuracy, they watch them for the spectacle and over the top content of them, I loved the first Gladiator, and will be interested to see this one, but will take it with a pinch of salt, does anyone know when it being released, xx
So does it look like Gladiator II will be absent most of the historical clubs that plagued the first film? I know you can’t tell much from the trailer, but you should be able to get some idea of how historically accurate truly will be. I know that was a problem with the first one that historians their names removed credited as advisors to the filmmakers. Just wondering.
How much better if the sharks had friggin laser beams!
He made a really good point. People always get so mad when historical inaccuracies happen. It’s a movie, it’s made for purely entertainment. None of us were alive back then so getting it even close to accurate isn’t possible. Enjoy the accuracies it addresses and then enjoy the rest that isnt even close to accurate. 😂
Exactly... The history nerds out there need to give it a rest and realize it's entertainment, not a historical documentary. They want accuracy, read a book or go back to college and take a class in whatever it is they're interested in.
It's like the Star Wars fans bitching about everything Disney's done with the franchise, without admitting that 5 of the six movies that Lucas did were pretty crap to begin with (Empire was pretty damn outstanding, the rest, not so much).
Gotta love the Internet...