@@johnomalley7211 What you fail to understand is that Joy understands which facts are most relevant to whichever subject they're discussing. Being able to recite facts does not a high Football IQ make. It's the ability to know which facts are most meaningful, and then being able to tie them together and articulate them cogently in a discussion, to make both small and big picture points. She excels at that, consistently. Don't be salty because a woman has a higher Football IQ than you.
@@travisfulgum9731I doubt that’s what it is…..I mean she makes extremely logical points particularly when it comes to hurts and the eagles, admittedly I don’t watch her much otherwise so maybe she’s terrible usually but as a big eagles fan and at the expense of not trying to be a huge homer I truly do think the points she makes are totally fair and valid
@@jeremymartin9148 If the Eagles loose on december 24th they still have the 1 seed. if Eagles go 3-1 down the strech i dont care if they loose to Cowboys or the Giants the last game. Getting the 1 seed is the most important part. I would rather beat the boys at the championship game then on christmas!
@@mcjokki9095 Y'all Eagles fans are looking far too ahead. The season isn't near over and you talking about the NFC championship!? The playoffs is a different animal
Dave made the smartest comment ive heard on the internet when comparing stats. Why do we skew stats so much to make something look like what its not? Saying yeah thats week 8, we are in week 15 is perfect. Thank you Dave H. i applaud you for actually looking at all the stats, not just what people do to make their case.
The thing is Jalen Hurts is a humble, passionate QB and he let's his leadership skills speak for itself and he's only 24 and plays and carries himself like a vet QB.
13:53 FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT!!! If the other team sucks at stopping the run, why the freak would he keep throwing the ball down the field?? He's not going to throw the ball for 500 yards if that not a winning game plan. It's about winning, not padding stats. Why else you think they only lost 1 game?
Jalen Hurts its just a true leader of men period. If you can get players to follow your lead that to me without a doubt its the upmost ability any QB can have, Jalen has polished his skills, mainly the throwing part of his game and he has unified the Philadelphia Eagles with the will to win and when you set an example the whole organization improves from top to bottom. I'm a Bengals fan and I see a lot of Burrow in Jalen Hurts (Leadership) and smarts are not teachable traits those are born with. I've been very impressed with this guy, he has truly blossom into an all around superstar and who knows speaking of Burrow it could be an Eagles vs Bengals Superbowl. 🦅vs 🐯🏆
GD, I freaking love Joy!! She’s extremely sharp and every time I listen to her speak, I could never find a reason to disagree. I’m an Eagles fan but but at this point, I don’t even want Jalen to win MVP, I rather him win the SB MVP
@@jonpoetical history shows that mvps and Super Bowl winners do not happen in the same year. It’s never happened before. Anytime someone one an mvp in a set year, they have never won the Super Bowl that same year, but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Records are meant to be broken
Yup. Rodgers had probably the best rb duo last year and the best wr in the game. He didn't get knocked for that. Look at him now without davanta. Every qb needs good players around them to perform at an mvp level.
@@novemberfestxohe hasn’t been terrible … he took his team to the playoffs his first year as a starter .. and Rodgers also sat behind Brett farve for years … he got molded into a good qb hurts was thrown to the wolves..
@@dillonsellars thrown to the wolfes?? 😂😂 oh you mean like Dak as a rookie going 12-1?? or what Brock Purdy is doing? hes only good bc his team had to dumb the offense down for him
Lmao it’s so funny to me everyone acts like the Eagles completely revamped the offense when all they did was add AJ Brown can we stop the hate Jalen Hurts has worked hard for this and it shows he has improved in every aspect and yeah I had my questions about certain things and he has answered them all
Philly jumped to big leads and dialed it back in over half their games this year. They’ve also pulled their starters in games this year. Hurts’ numbers could be measurably higher.
Jalen Hurts ability to run with the football is the reason why Miles Sanders has a 1,000 rushing season and A.J. is having his best season with Jalen Hurts
@SamoaVsEverybody814mahomes also throws the ball a ton more a game, the eagles are more balanced by nature and structure because that is what benefits hurts and the team. It’s like saying the chiefs should run more despite that not being conducive to mahomes style who needs to be throwing the majority of stats. Passing yards is not a good measure alone as it discounts hurts and his rushing game that has contributed 10 TDs, strictly talking this season hurts has the better record, the best offense statistically in the league, and is the cause for a lot of stuff that happens on the D who arguably are the second best in football. They basically never have to play from behind, hurts and the offense routinely make 80 plus yard drives to eat up the clock and keep them rested, and his legs open up the game for miles sanders whos having a career year, so he’s making everyone around him better and has the stats and record to back it up idk what else someone has to do to be MVP then. The schedule is so overhyped as it’s based off of last year which we know already how much has changed already, mahomes has lost to inferior teams anyway and the eagles have beaten 5 playoff teams already
Hurts is a qb w/ mamba mentality and lebron’s talent (nfl version of course). Built strong has a coach type of iq. Makes everyone around him better. And an all round player in a qb. Idc what people say i believe in this dude he’s mvp in my eyes but it doesnt matter what the league thinks the ring is what he wants and thats the best way to solidify yourself in the league. Respect to the young king.
@@dzknutzzz3449 bro it was his first year as a starter and his second year in the league. Was kobe instantly great? No. Did pat mahomes get a ring his 2nd year (and first year as a starter) no. So what is your point my dude.
Just my own opinion and Im guessing you guys aren't old enough to have seen them come and go. its ok you'll will learn as i did. i once too used to crown good QB's within thier first 5yrs and put their names up with the greats. you'll will get it one day.
People also fail to mention that he’s sat out ends of games cause he’s been up by so much multiple times, imagine him finishing every game I’m sure his stats would be more inflated, all I’m saying Hurts feelings is fkkn mvp 💯🔥🦅
I'm a Cowboys fan. Jalen Hurts is the best player on the best team in the league. They have been more consistent than any other team, that's just facts. Got no problem with him winning MVP
This segment prove to me they get scared when Joy talks a lot. Acho was like “some people argue that Dave” and joy was like “I’m not making this up” 😂😭🤣😭😂😂🤦🏿♂️
THANK YOU! somebody finally said it. go back and look at the power rankings at the beginning of the year. most people didn't even have the eagles top 10. if the roster really is as special as people make it seem, wouldn't they be top 3 in all power rankings? jalen is making everyone around him better including the defense.
Acho is still bitter about his failed time in Philly. It shows every time the Eagles are a part of the conversation. We had a “super team” in 2012 and went 4-12 because the QB play bad. We’ve had some great all around teams in the past that have accomplished nothing because they lacked a great QB. Hurts is playing great this year. The jump from last year in terms of reading the D and throwing with accuracy and anticipation is stunning, especially to anyone who has closely watched the Eagles over that time span. He honestly hasn’t had a bad game all year and is the only QB to accomplish that. He’s also a great leader, tireless worker, perfectionist, and fully committed to making himself, the Eagles, and the community better. What more does anyone need to see from him to admit he is the MVP no matter how many ways you slice and dice it. I dare to say if Jalen Reagor was starting at WR for us this year, he would be having a major bounce back season because of the dramatic improvement Hurts has shown in his ball placement to where only the receiver can catch it.
I think the only reason why ppl disrespect Hurts is b/c this is his 1st season actually being great. He is having a MVP season & deserves it (9ers’ fan). Ppl definitely judge based off prior season results which he wasn’t great. I also see what Acho is saying & others where Hurts isn’t doing anything super crazy, special or doing the heavy lifting. MJ didn’t win the MVP award every year he played. Kareem, Peyton, Brady, etc. but it isn’t the best QB award of the decade award. It’s the best player (QB really) that yr.
Eagles got AJ Brown on offense... Most of the players acquired are on the defense... People act like Hurts has all these weapons around him that weren't on the team last year. It's amazing
I'm not a Philly fan but I can't wait for the Eagles to win the super bowl so all this dumb talk can be dead. This the only show that wants to give Jalen and Philly the credit they deserve. Unbiased they are heads and shoulders above every team in the NFL except San Francisco but they have a legitimately great QB. If they don't win it all it's a bust season. I'm a Bama fan I knew Jalen was good we were just so loaded that we had an even better QB on our roster and now Jalen has improved to the point were he's a Top 10 QB easily.
Jalen hurts reminds me alot of how Russell Wilson came on strong eventually. Initially he was managing the game stellar defense stellar running game then developing in the system for long enough to become a legitimate franchise QB. But jalen hurts is coming on strong faster than Wilson I really hope the young fella continues to develop and study film incessantly.
Hurts isn’t MVP because of what he does on the field he’s MVP because he revived the eagles franchise. Everyone figured they rebuild and they were happy to rest on their laurels after winning a Super Bowl already. Hurts made them believe they can chase another one sooner than they would’ve naturally done! Think about it eagles hire new coach, lose players and get rid of their “franchise” QB. No one in 2020/2021 thought they were gon chase a chip anytime soon. Jalen came in changed the culture and howie roseman decided to go all in. He wouldn’t have done that in 2020 for wentz. He literally revived a franchise that was content with the chip they had just won!!
These guys must not watch the games, he has been making elite throws every week. But whatever, I'm sure he doesn't care about a media award. He wants the ring.
I am so sick of hearing people talk about this eagles team like it is not 99% the same offense as last year. Yes we added AJ Brown, but the dolphins added Tyreek Hill and you can’t even compare Tua and Jalen. Jalen has been consistently great. We all knew he could run the ball better than most QBs but his ability to through dimes is what makes this offense seem like it’s the best in the NFL. Just give the guy the MVP if he finishes this awesome run the team would not be where it is without him.
They say they see nothing spectacular when they watch hurts. I see a guy who’s top 3 in using his legs not only to get yards but to create throwing windows in and outside the pocket. He’s so smooth wit that.
@@Raven.Bloodrot id say hurts is a better runner then all of them, he isnt the fastest or the shiftiest, (hes not far off) but he is a smartest runner who doesnt take big hits, knows how to slide and has mastered the art of the QB sneak. He has the absolute best spatial awareness plus he has the speed and power
Im a Cowboys fan for 51 yrs and I can say without a shadow of a doubt Jalen Hurts totally deserves to be the leader for MVP! If Mahomes or Josh Allen or even Rogers had their team at 12-1 after 13 games ,do you think they wouldn't be the one talked about as MVP of the league? Sure they would,and rightfully so! If Dak had Dallas at 12-1 and no other QB had as good a record,he should be the leading candidate! Hurts put in a lot of work and he only stumbled ONCE.....he truly deserves this award! But.....as ALWAYS......Go Boys!
The QB is the most important player... Prime example... Dream team remember that.. talent over flow. You still have to play the games. Don't matter till you play the games..
I hear what you’re saying about running QBs not having their rushing stats count. Cam and Lamar both won MVPs fairly recently. It had NOTHING to do with their running. Oh wait….
The only difference between hurts and Allen/Mahomes Hurts doesn’t play wreckless. He doesn’t throw wreckless passes, he doesn’t throw his body around like a rag doll
Lets call it what it is. Hurts isn't a light skinned guy. He is all the way black. He can't pass as a white man. Nobody takes Lamar Jackson seriously because he can't throw the ball consistently. He can only pass to tight ends. Jalen Hurts is threatening the description of what a "duel qb" is because he can read a defense and he is very accurate. It was ok when he was just running around. Now he is dissecting defenses with his mind and qbing. This is altogether new problem the NFL has never seen. He isn't going to be covered until the media is forced to cover him. He may win the Superbowl this year.
As an Eagles fan… I’ll say the real reason why nobody wants to give Jalen his due is because our roster has been so stacked by the front office you’d have to be really bad to mess this up. That being said Jalen has been balling all season long. Nobody held having Kelce and Hill against Mahomes when he won. Or Rodgers when he had Davante Adams. Or Peyton when he had all the weapons in the world. Guys like Jalen and Lamar will always face a double standard when it comes to being in or winning the MVP conversation. Fair or not.
What year did Mahomes and burrow have a Top 5 defense and Top 5 run game? They didn’t have that luxury and it was all on their arm to win games with albeit elite offensive weapons but do not have room for error.
Acho is really trying to thread the needle of taking credit away from Jalen Hurts for the Eagles greatness, but somehow they're still not better than a 9ers team that has 4 losses. Three of those loses were to the Bears, Broncos, and Falcons...
I absolutely love this for Hurts. I said it from the moment he was benched in the NC for Tua that his future was going to depend on how he responded to losing his starting job. Jalen handled it like a grown man the entire time. The things that standout to the majority of talking heads are their favorite QB’s physical attributes. Jalen is just built different & made for this 💩‼️ I only see it in him & Burrow. The rest of these “top tier” QBs don’t possess what those two guys have. What he has done thus far this season has been absolutely incredible especially considering how much doubt these “experts” had about him. He’s the MVP & it ain’t even close!
His candidacy is only in question because of there’re agenda to push some one in his place like patty Mahomes an others.. there’s a strong disdain for the Philadelphia eagles And honestly I don’t understand why
Media so cap 🧢 none of them respected Lamar as a QB until AFTER he won MVP they literally called him a running back !! And brought his arm into question consistently and watch they do the same thing with Jalen after he wins then they gone be giving virtual neck 😂
I love you Acho but it's because no one thinks he is elevating his team like you suggested at the start. Shouts out to you though for being willing to actually look deeper into the subject. Youve been preaching to the choir these past few weeks. The o-line has been the best/top 3 in the league for years. Arguably the best center and right tackle in football. Miles Sanders has been a great runner, just plagued by injuries. He hasnt played a 16 game season since his rookie season, averagin 4-5 games missed a year. Thats a wash in my mind. We would of hit 1k the last two years if he could stay healthy. Promise you that. Moving onto the receivers. AJ Brown has been a top receiver in this league way before Jalen Hurts. Or why else did the Eagles trade a first round pick for him. Devonta Smith is another first round pick, that you could argue his progression is more so expected of his time in the league then what his RUN FIRST QB does for him. Another wash. Jalen doesnt play defense or special teams. So who is he really elevating? To try and suggest Jalen is even capable of elevating his team in the same way as say Brady, while on arguably the best roster in football is why no one takes him or anyone who defends him seriously. Cheers
From the same talking heads who are now slighting and disrespecting Jalen, I keep hearing two contradictory arguments. 1) "Are the Eagles the best team in football?" "I don't think so. I gotta go with the Chiefs/Bills/Cowboys/49ers." 2) "Hurts' success is a result of being on a great team. They're the best team in football. Mahomes is succeeding with less. Blah, blah..." So, which is true? They can't both be correct, even though both keep dribbling from your mouths like $#@! from a sewer pipe. You're so lost that you can't even hear yourselves spouting these contradictory points. The correct answer is that BOTH ARE FALSE. The Eagles ARE the best team in the NFL, not just the most talented, the best. They have been all along, while you slackjaws were too slow to grasp it. And Jalen Hurts is dominating opponents, leading the Eagles to their victories. Anyone who actually watches the games sees how much he does on every single drive. This year, he is the best player on the best team, and the clear NFL MVP.
He's on par to give Smith 1,000 yards too if he continues to throw the way he is. Sure those two are pretty high up elite WRs but being able to have the output to FEED them yards says something too, same with Goedert if he's back by this Sunday. I'm an Eagles fan and I can say he is not Wentz, we made the right choice. Even if he doesn't get MVP we'd be foolish to let him go. I feel good but playoffs are what's really gonna matter. I think we can do a lot this season.
What puts Josh Allen over Hurts as a runner? Is it because Allen takes more hits when he runs the ball? Because if you ask me, rushing for more yards without being hit as often would make you a better runner. But hey that's me I guess.
I like this segment being put on, because the Chris Simms take when he said the Eagles would be just as good with Minshew in place of Hurts was probably the most disrespectful thing said this year. Especially when you take into account Simms has a track record of hate against Hurts. If I remember right his preseason QB rankings from before the 2021 season, either didn't even have Hurts listed or he was way down behind even backup QBs at like #38 or something like that.
"He's just been locked in. A couple weeks ago they took away the pass and he ran. The other week it was vice versa. That just tells you how locked in he is. I know it's a tight race between him and (Patrick) Mahomes and Mahomes is a good quarterback, too, but half the games that we played in Jalen Hurts didn't play in the second half. That has to be the edge." ____ A.J. Brown (WR, Philadelphia Eagles)
The reason people are scared of Hurts is because people don’t want to admit a black qb is the best qb in the league right now. Personally, I’ll take him over any qb in the league rn.
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Nobody is mentioning the fact that Jalen is sustaining drives that keep the defense well rested so that they are fresh and can ball out!
Very true man Defenses look tired, only team that beat us did it by eating time.
@@mfavingerfv2202 true, but they still could have won based on the tone they had if not for those turnovers.
@@PD-dw1nz exactly
The multiple 3rd down conversions every week man great point 💯💯💯
Ha remember when chip had defensive living on the field 🥵
Joy, yet again, showcases her Football IQ. She's great...and in more ways than that.
I mean it’s not hard to look up the facts
@@johnomalley7211 no one else on fox is as consistent or rational
@@light_skit you’re right
@@johnomalley7211 would be nice if everyone used them and not just her.
@@johnomalley7211 What you fail to understand is that Joy understands which facts are most relevant to whichever subject they're discussing. Being able to recite facts does not a high Football IQ make. It's the ability to know which facts are most meaningful, and then being able to tie them together and articulate them cogently in a discussion, to make both small and big picture points. She excels at that, consistently. Don't be salty because a woman has a higher Football IQ than you.
I love how Joy champions for Hurts. 💯
Don’t forget she’s a black woman, and we know the undertones about black qbs.
@@travisfulgum9731 Is that really a problem?
@@travisfulgum9731I doubt that’s what it is…..I mean she makes extremely logical points particularly when it comes to hurts and the eagles, admittedly I don’t watch her much otherwise so maybe she’s terrible usually but as a big eagles fan and at the expense of not trying to be a huge homer I truly do think the points she makes are totally fair and valid
She knows more about ball than a lot of guys including me lol.
@@benduell4997 Her brother is in the hall of fame Jason Taylor
Jalen Hurts is doing what they thought he couldn't do and that's why they're hating.
Nah, I seen it coming from a mile away and I'm a Cowboys fan. Shout-out to Jalen for doing his thang, but the Eagles still going down December 24th!
They are holding on to what he was last year. they dont release he changed his mechnics in addition to everything else
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@@jeremymartin9148 If the Eagles loose on december 24th they still have the 1 seed. if Eagles go 3-1 down the strech i dont care if they loose to Cowboys or the Giants the last game. Getting the 1 seed is the most important part. I would rather beat the boys at the championship game then on christmas!
@@mcjokki9095 Y'all Eagles fans are looking far too ahead. The season isn't near over and you talking about the NFC championship!? The playoffs is a different animal
Dave made the smartest comment ive heard on the internet when comparing stats. Why do we skew stats so much to make something look like what its not? Saying yeah thats week 8, we are in week 15 is perfect. Thank you Dave H. i applaud you for actually looking at all the stats, not just what people do to make their case.
The thing is Jalen Hurts is a humble, passionate QB and he let's his leadership skills speak for itself and he's only 24 and plays and carries himself like a vet QB.
He is a vet QB. This is his 3rd year.
Reminds me of dak with the leadership
Second year starting,... That's a vet? Gtfoh
@@randomanton apperently he sees them as Rookies first year and then they are a vet after year 1.
@@mcjokki9095 being on the team for several years makes you a vet.
13:53 FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT!!! If the other team sucks at stopping the run, why the freak would he keep throwing the ball down the field?? He's not going to throw the ball for 500 yards if that not a winning game plan. It's about winning, not padding stats. Why else you think they only lost 1 game?
Jalen Hurts its just a true leader of men period. If you can get players to follow your lead that to me without a doubt its the upmost ability any QB can have, Jalen has polished his skills, mainly the throwing part of his game and he has unified the Philadelphia Eagles with the will to win and when you set an example the whole organization improves from top to bottom. I'm a Bengals fan and I see a lot of Burrow in Jalen Hurts (Leadership) and smarts are not teachable traits those are born with. I've been very impressed with this guy, he has truly blossom into an all around superstar and who knows speaking of Burrow it could be an Eagles vs Bengals Superbowl. 🦅vs 🐯🏆
That’s who I picked for the Super Bowl this year lol. Of course I got my birds winning 😁🦅🦅🦅
GD, I freaking love Joy!! She’s extremely sharp and every time I listen to her speak, I could never find a reason to disagree. I’m an Eagles fan but but at this point, I don’t even want Jalen to win MVP, I rather him win the SB MVP
Wow the biggest idiot of all analyst good job with joy lmao.
I want him to win both, and both feel like realistic possibilities. One game at a time. 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Why one or the other? Why not both?
Why not both?
@@jonpoetical history shows that mvps and Super Bowl winners do not happen in the same year. It’s never happened before. Anytime someone one an mvp in a set year, they have never won the Super Bowl that same year, but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Records are meant to be broken
Joy too smart for this show, she lowkey carrying
Acho used to be smart too
True story
Real rap!
The whiplash of the media whenit comes to hurts is astounding
Yup. Rodgers had probably the best rb duo last year and the best wr in the game. He didn't get knocked for that. Look at him now without davanta. Every qb needs good players around them to perform at an mvp level.
@@tonyb460 how do you think Brady threw 45+ TDs last season
@@tonyb460 thats bc rogers was great the very moment he stepped on the field. hurts has been in the NFL for 3 years and has bee terrible
@@novemberfestxohe hasn’t been terrible … he took his team to the playoffs his first year as a starter .. and Rodgers also sat behind Brett farve for years … he got molded into a good qb hurts was thrown to the wolves..
@@dillonsellars thrown to the wolfes?? 😂😂 oh you mean like Dak as a rookie going 12-1?? or what Brock Purdy is doing? hes only good bc his team had to dumb the offense down for him
Joy is on point! Keep spitting facts
Hurts has made so many special runs and throws. Acho doesn’t watch the Eagles games at all.
Lmao it’s so funny to me everyone acts like the Eagles completely revamped the offense when all they did was add AJ Brown can we stop the hate Jalen Hurts has worked hard for this and it shows he has improved in every aspect and yeah I had my questions about certain things and he has answered them all
This man has been an underdog his entire life just let it continue he will be on top
Dave was hating on Hurts at the start of the season and now he’s a believer. Respect.
yup ! he is dripping in Eagle Green!!!
Philly jumped to big leads and dialed it back in over half their games this year. They’ve also pulled their starters in games this year. Hurts’ numbers could be measurably higher.
Bigfacts they dont want to talk about that
I’m convinced Joy needs to spit these facts to Nick Wright! She would body him!
That....I'd love 2 see!!
Jalen Hurts ability to run with the football is the reason why Miles Sanders has a 1,000 rushing season and A.J. is having his best season with Jalen Hurts
Exactly!!!!
@SamoaVsEverybody_814 what’s funny? You laugh cuz you can’t refute what he said lol. Typical hater.
@SamoaVsEverybody814mahomes also throws the ball a ton more a game, the eagles are more balanced by nature and structure because that is what benefits hurts and the team. It’s like saying the chiefs should run more despite that not being conducive to mahomes style who needs to be throwing the majority of stats. Passing yards is not a good measure alone as it discounts hurts and his rushing game that has contributed 10 TDs, strictly talking this season hurts has the better record, the best offense statistically in the league, and is the cause for a lot of stuff that happens on the D who arguably are the second best in football. They basically never have to play from behind, hurts and the offense routinely make 80 plus yard drives to eat up the clock and keep them rested, and his legs open up the game for miles sanders whos having a career year, so he’s making everyone around him better and has the stats and record to back it up idk what else someone has to do to be MVP then. The schedule is so overhyped as it’s based off of last year which we know already how much has changed already, mahomes has lost to inferior teams anyway and the eagles have beaten 5 playoff teams already
I won't go THAT far! Miles is finally Healthy. But I will agree that he helped expedite the 1000 yard season.
Hurts is a qb w/ mamba mentality and lebron’s talent (nfl version of course). Built strong has a coach type of iq. Makes everyone around him better. And an all round player in a qb. Idc what people say i believe in this dude he’s mvp in my eyes but it doesnt matter what the league thinks the ring is what he wants and thats the best way to solidify yourself in the league. Respect to the young king.
he was a no show when it mattered in the playoffs. and thats mamba to you?
@@dzknutzzz3449 bro it was his first year as a starter and his second year in the league. Was kobe instantly great? No. Did pat mahomes get a ring his 2nd year (and first year as a starter) no. So what is your point my dude.
@@dzknutzzz3449 you’re a clown for making that argument without context.
Spitting facts 💯
Just my own opinion and Im guessing you guys aren't old enough to have seen them come and go. its ok you'll will learn as i did. i once too used to crown good QB's within thier first 5yrs and put their names up with the greats. you'll will get it one day.
Joy is one of the best sports commentators on TV.
when u have nothing to hate on they hate how good you are my boy Jalen give me Asta vibes
People also fail to mention that he’s sat out ends of games cause he’s been up by so much multiple times, imagine him finishing every game I’m sure his stats would be more inflated, all I’m saying Hurts feelings is fkkn mvp 💯🔥🦅
Just the fact that his passing numbers are good as they are and hes on a running team AND they don't stat pad at the end of games like dallas
Jalen is like a pure point guard
I'm a Cowboys fan. Jalen Hurts is the best player on the best team in the league. They have been more consistent than any other team, that's just facts.
Got no problem with him winning MVP
As an Eagles fan, I have great respect for you! Can’t wait for Christmas Eve! GOTY
Great Question Dave!!!
This segment prove to me they get scared when Joy talks a lot. Acho was like “some people argue that Dave” and joy was like “I’m not making this up” 😂😭🤣😭😂😂🤦🏿♂️
THANK YOU! somebody finally said it. go back and look at the power rankings at the beginning of the year. most people didn't even have the eagles top 10. if the roster really is as special as people make it seem, wouldn't they be top 3 in all power rankings? jalen is making everyone around him better including the defense.
"A rising tide floats all boats and Jalen Hurts is causing the tide to rise"
Acho is still bitter about his failed time in Philly. It shows every time the Eagles are a part of the conversation. We had a “super team” in 2012 and went 4-12 because the QB play bad. We’ve had some great all around teams in the past that have accomplished nothing because they lacked a great QB. Hurts is playing great this year. The jump from last year in terms of reading the D and throwing with accuracy and anticipation is stunning, especially to anyone who has closely watched the Eagles over that time span. He honestly hasn’t had a bad game all year and is the only QB to accomplish that. He’s also a great leader, tireless worker, perfectionist, and fully committed to making himself, the Eagles, and the community better. What more does anyone need to see from him to admit he is the MVP no matter how many ways you slice and dice it. I dare to say if Jalen Reagor was starting at WR for us this year, he would be having a major bounce back season because of the dramatic improvement Hurts has shown in his ball placement to where only the receiver can catch it.
It's being questioned because he's a dual threat black QB, period. People already thinking Purdy is TB12 after his 2nd game last week.
People don't want to admit they were wrong about Jalen Hurts
That's EXACTLY what it is!
Shady been giving y'all the business 🦅😂 had to time him out huh 😆
More of, shady isn't an analyst just an eagles d rider.
@@Raven.Bloodrot he's from near Philly, so he grew up a eagles fan
Glad he's gone! Dude's a bias idiot!
@@isaiahbutler1938 the eagles could be 0-14 and I'm almost certain shady would say they're the best team in football, he wasn't being an analyst.
Shady sucks
I think the only reason why ppl disrespect Hurts is b/c this is his 1st season actually being great. He is having a MVP season & deserves it (9ers’ fan).
Ppl definitely judge based off prior season results which he wasn’t great. I also see what Acho is saying & others where Hurts isn’t doing anything super crazy, special or doing the heavy lifting.
MJ didn’t win the MVP award every year he played. Kareem, Peyton, Brady, etc. but it isn’t the best QB award of the decade award. It’s the best player (QB really) that yr.
Hurts was pretty good last year, too! If you watched you would have seen this coming. (Not you per se)
Let's just settle this in the playoffs when and if both teams meet & we will come back to this vod to say I told you so. May the best team win 🏆
Joy out here bodying Acho!!
That’s rediculous … there are some great teams with a average qb and they go nowhere
Eagles got AJ Brown on offense... Most of the players acquired are on the defense... People act like Hurts has all these weapons around him that weren't on the team last year. It's amazing
4:25 - still need an answer. Why did u start at week 8?
I'm not a Philly fan but I can't wait for the Eagles to win the super bowl so all this dumb talk can be dead. This the only show that wants to give Jalen and Philly the credit they deserve. Unbiased they are heads and shoulders above every team in the NFL except San Francisco but they have a legitimately great QB. If they don't win it all it's a bust season. I'm a Bama fan I knew Jalen was good we were just so loaded that we had an even better QB on our roster and now Jalen has improved to the point were he's a Top 10 QB easily.
Jalen hurts reminds me alot of how Russell Wilson came on strong eventually. Initially he was managing the game stellar defense stellar running game then developing in the system for long enough to become a legitimate franchise QB. But jalen hurts is coming on strong faster than Wilson I really hope the young fella continues to develop and study film incessantly.
Hurts isn’t MVP because of what he does on the field he’s MVP because he revived the eagles franchise. Everyone figured they rebuild and they were happy to rest on their laurels after winning a Super Bowl already. Hurts made them believe they can chase another one sooner than they would’ve naturally done! Think about it eagles hire new coach, lose players and get rid of their “franchise” QB. No one in 2020/2021 thought they were gon chase a chip anytime soon. Jalen came in changed the culture and howie roseman decided to go all in. He wouldn’t have done that in 2020 for wentz. He literally revived a franchise that was content with the chip they had just won!!
These guys must not watch the games, he has been making elite throws every week. But whatever, I'm sure he doesn't care about a media award. He wants the ring.
Everyone knew what Joy was saying
Shady and joy were the best part of the show tbh 🤷🏽♂️. If joy leaves them im good on this show lol
I am so sick of hearing people talk about this eagles team like it is not 99% the same offense as last year. Yes we added AJ Brown, but the dolphins added Tyreek Hill and you can’t even compare Tua and Jalen. Jalen has been consistently great. We all knew he could run the ball better than most QBs but his ability to through dimes is what makes this offense seem like it’s the best in the NFL. Just give the guy the MVP if he finishes this awesome run the team would not be where it is without him.
I'm so happy Joy is on this show.
People that actually sit down and watch the whole game will understand the level that Eagles are at this season 😎
This is the best channel for engaging and thorough football analysis
They say they see nothing spectacular when they watch hurts. I see a guy who’s top 3 in using his legs not only to get yards but to create throwing windows in and outside the pocket. He’s so smooth wit that.
Jalen is a top 3 runner for QB Josh Allen is not a better runner than him. The man ran for 105 yards in one quarter.
And he’s not three or two.
@@kikomagana1990 he's two, Lamar exists.
@@Raven.Bloodrot id say hurts is a better runner then all of them, he isnt the fastest or the shiftiest, (hes not far off) but he is a smartest runner who doesnt take big hits, knows how to slide and has mastered the art of the QB sneak. He has the absolute best spatial awareness
plus he has the speed and power
@@iLLWiLLTheMiCK Lamar's spatial awareness is pretty good.
Im a Cowboys fan for 51 yrs and I can say without a shadow of a doubt Jalen Hurts totally deserves to be the leader for MVP! If Mahomes or Josh Allen or even Rogers had their team at 12-1 after 13 games ,do you think they wouldn't be the one talked about as MVP of the league? Sure they would,and rightfully so! If Dak had Dallas at 12-1 and no other QB had as good a record,he should be the leading candidate! Hurts put in a lot of work and he only stumbled ONCE.....he truly deserves this award! But.....as ALWAYS......Go Boys!
it’s honestly only because of their schedule. he can solidify his mvp candidacy with a win against the boys
Fact
His candidacy is not being questioned unless u guys question it smh
Man really said josh Allen is a better runner than jalen hurts 💀
The QB is the most important player... Prime example... Dream team remember that.. talent over flow. You still have to play the games. Don't matter till you play the games..
Yo this show is great
This show has gotten so good!
Hurts proving his doubters wrong! Breaking franchise and NFL record
I hear what you’re saying about running QBs not having their rushing stats count. Cam and Lamar both won MVPs fairly recently. It had NOTHING to do with their running. Oh wait….
The only difference between hurts and Allen/Mahomes
Hurts doesn’t play wreckless. He doesn’t throw wreckless passes, he doesn’t throw his body around like a rag doll
I’m not listening to Acho play devils advocate when he lost all credibility calling Herbert a “Social Media Qb”
Even though Dave is a Cowboys fan and I’m an eagles fan I respect he keeps it mostly real and is pretty unbiased.
I feel like Acho was mad that we never embraced him because he is constantly hating one way or another on hurts or the Eagles
Jalen Hurts is having the season and impact everyone thought Josh Allen was going to have. The writers and media can’t stand it lol
Why because Micha Parsons said something?
The Lady be preaching 🙌
Patrick got 9 to jalen’s 5. Pat got the stats. With the hardest schedule.
Joy is it ❤❤❤
Lets call it what it is. Hurts isn't a light skinned guy. He is all the way black. He can't pass as a white man. Nobody takes Lamar Jackson seriously because he can't throw the ball consistently. He can only pass to tight ends. Jalen Hurts is threatening the description of what a "duel qb" is because he can read a defense and he is very accurate. It was ok when he was just running around. Now he is dissecting defenses with his mind and qbing. This is altogether new problem the NFL has never seen. He isn't going to be covered until the media is forced to cover him. He may win the Superbowl this year.
In Lamar's defense, it's the offense.
Rewatch the eagles at Tampa wildcard game. Hurts was god awful. Todd bowls said "He can't read"
@@demonking4883 Rewatch what? First of all it wasn't Todd Bowles. 2nd, what does last year have to do with now. You people are comical!
As an Eagles fan… I’ll say the real reason why nobody wants to give Jalen his due is because our roster has been so stacked by the front office you’d have to be really bad to mess this up.
That being said Jalen has been balling all season long. Nobody held having Kelce and Hill against Mahomes when he won. Or Rodgers when he had Davante Adams. Or Peyton when he had all the weapons in the world. Guys like Jalen and Lamar will always face a double standard when it comes to being in or winning the MVP conversation. Fair or not.
What year did Mahomes and burrow have a Top 5 defense and Top 5 run game? They didn’t have that luxury and it was all on their arm to win games with albeit elite offensive weapons but do not have room for error.
What is Acho talking about!!! He try to force everything to be a deep idea
he def does
Acho is really trying to thread the needle of taking credit away from Jalen Hurts for the Eagles greatness, but somehow they're still not better than a 9ers team that has 4 losses. Three of those loses were to the Bears, Broncos, and Falcons...
I absolutely love this for Hurts. I said it from the moment he was benched in the NC for Tua that his future was going to depend on how he responded to losing his starting job. Jalen handled it like a grown man the entire time. The things that standout to the majority of talking heads are their favorite QB’s physical attributes. Jalen is just built different & made for this 💩‼️ I only see it in him & Burrow. The rest of these “top tier” QBs don’t possess what those two guys have. What he has done thus far this season has been absolutely incredible especially considering how much doubt these “experts” had about him. He’s the MVP & it ain’t even close!
He has basically the same oline as Carson had,I never saw any lineman help Wentz up off the ground. They always help Jalen up.
Acho the team is made better because of Jalen Hurts;
His candidacy is only in question because of there’re agenda to push some one in his place like patty Mahomes an others.. there’s a strong disdain for the Philadelphia eagles And honestly I don’t understand why
Media so cap 🧢 none of them respected Lamar as a QB until AFTER he won MVP they literally called him a running back !! And brought his arm into question consistently and watch they do the same thing with Jalen after he wins then they gone be giving virtual neck 😂
I love you Acho but it's because no one thinks he is elevating his team like you suggested at the start. Shouts out to you though for being willing to actually look deeper into the subject. Youve been preaching to the choir these past few weeks. The o-line has been the best/top 3 in the league for years. Arguably the best center and right tackle in football. Miles Sanders has been a great runner, just plagued by injuries. He hasnt played a 16 game season since his rookie season, averagin 4-5 games missed a year. Thats a wash in my mind. We would of hit 1k the last two years if he could stay healthy. Promise you that. Moving onto the receivers. AJ Brown has been a top receiver in this league way before Jalen Hurts. Or why else did the Eagles trade a first round pick for him. Devonta Smith is another first round pick, that you could argue his progression is more so expected of his time in the league then what his RUN FIRST QB does for him. Another wash. Jalen doesnt play defense or special teams. So who is he really elevating? To try and suggest Jalen is even capable of elevating his team in the same way as say Brady, while on arguably the best roster in football is why no one takes him or anyone who defends him seriously. Cheers
And oh. Dallas Goedert has been a stud, to the point they let Zach Ertz go without a second thought
That was actually very well written and thought out. Great comment 👍🏾
Acho yesterday - Micah Parsons is right!
Acho today - Why are people doubting Hurts?
Joy To the world isn't she the greatest Philadelphia Eagles 12-1 the record does speak for itself and I agree with Joy Taylor
People must not be watching these eagles games if you think he only has leadership and intangibles
Jalen controls the thermostat look at his season so far 😮
If they aren't afraid of him, that's their fault not his. They should be though. They will get shown.
I’m all for Jalen as MVP.
From the same talking heads who are now slighting and disrespecting Jalen, I keep hearing two contradictory arguments.
1) "Are the Eagles the best team in football?"
"I don't think so. I gotta go with the Chiefs/Bills/Cowboys/49ers."
2) "Hurts' success is a result of being on a great team. They're the best team in football. Mahomes is succeeding with less. Blah, blah..."
So, which is true? They can't both be correct, even though both keep dribbling from your mouths like $#@! from a sewer pipe. You're so lost that you can't even hear yourselves spouting these contradictory points.
The correct answer is that BOTH ARE FALSE.
The Eagles ARE the best team in the NFL, not just the most talented, the best. They have been all along, while you slackjaws were too slow to grasp it.
And Jalen Hurts is dominating opponents, leading the Eagles to their victories. Anyone who actually watches the games sees how much he does on every single drive. This year, he is the best player on the best team, and the clear NFL MVP.
He's making it look easy, that's why.
I have never seen so many people that hate Jalen Hurts
They just be hating on Jalen Hurts
He's on par to give Smith 1,000 yards too if he continues to throw the way he is. Sure those two are pretty high up elite WRs but being able to have the output to FEED them yards says something too, same with Goedert if he's back by this Sunday. I'm an Eagles fan and I can say he is not Wentz, we made the right choice. Even if he doesn't get MVP we'd be foolish to let him go. I feel good but playoffs are what's really gonna matter. I think we can do a lot this season.
What puts Josh Allen over Hurts as a runner? Is it because Allen takes more hits when he runs the ball? Because if you ask me, rushing for more yards without being hit as often would make you a better runner. But hey that's me I guess.
Dave will find a way to put the cowboys in the conversation 😭🤦🏾♂️
I was so wrong about Joy and David, perhaps they are the most objective on the show!
Love my team 🦅🦅
I like this segment being put on, because the Chris Simms take when he said the Eagles would be just as good with Minshew in place of Hurts was probably the most disrespectful thing said this year. Especially when you take into account Simms has a track record of hate against Hurts. If I remember right his preseason QB rankings from before the 2021 season, either didn't even have Hurts listed or he was way down behind even backup QBs at like #38 or something like that.
Shady did outdo Acho before he left! Acho over thinks the obvious! Right
now, Joy and Dave are the shows MVP's!
"He's just been locked in. A couple weeks ago they took away the pass and he ran. The other week it was vice versa. That just tells you how locked in he is. I know it's a tight race between him and (Patrick) Mahomes and Mahomes is a good quarterback, too, but half the games that we played in Jalen Hurts didn't play in the second half. That has to be the edge." ____ A.J. Brown (WR, Philadelphia Eagles)
The reason people are scared of Hurts is because people don’t want to admit a black qb is the best qb in the league right now. Personally, I’ll take him over any qb in the league rn.
Mahomes has been considered the best QB for the last 3 or 4 years. Is he not black enough ? And you act as If no black Qbs have ever won and MVP
"should brock purdy be in the mvp conversation" cmon son stop it
What Acho be talking about ????