Mr. Weaver, they are going to have an awful number of lawsuits. Most of which are going to be against them. There are like a buzzillion vocals that sound exactly like that. The vast majority of which were written before said whiney plaintiff. I think that the biggest problem with these people is that they really don't know how to sing. I think this may be manifesting itself in the need to start a lawsuit on account of the shortcomings and feelings of inadequacies amongst a dimwitted industry that doesn't know how to make real music. We should all pray that Robert Johnson doesn't come back from the grave to sue the lead singer to Steppen Wolf.
I think it'll increase the demand for creativity. If it gets to the point where AI can create any particular flavor of boilerplate, then artists who can do more than just mimic micro genres will be in higher demand.
What Rick meant by saying “they only know what they’ve heard” is that the listener cannot make new sounds without the creator to lead you in the direction to feel their art so they cannot even tell them selves what they want, but only what they already like.
would be dope if you did a bit more analysis on the Rubin situation, personally I think the good ear + decisiveness he purports to have is not something that can be traditionally learned/is easy to come by, which is kinda priceless
taste is something that can develop over time, just like a muscle. One of the best ways to develop taste is to go listen to a bunch of music, obscure or popular, that you wouldn't normally listen to. Most people don't seem to have taste because they don't get out of their comfort zone and are comfortable being spoon fed whatever comes up in popular culture.
There should be a better name for his title/position... like Sound Guru, Musical Counselor, Green Molusque, or something... but "producer" is/should be someone who "produces" a product, meaning he or her with such title, should record, mix, edit, play or something of that kind at least.
Man, you're great, and YES I subscribed but this is too intense on a Friday. I'll watch the rest when my cat lets me use the computer. Next Wednesday? Is that good? Sorry, I was talking to my cat.
The thing about that Google Music AI is like all AI tools, they’re haphazard, janky and don’t work (or sound) all the time. But you have to remember that this technology is developing at such a rapid pace that it’ll only be a few years before it begins stealing and creating something interesting, or is integrated with some kind of DAW that allows it to use decent virtual instruments to make music. Musicians already have to fight tooth and nail for what little revenue streams they have, and though I don’t know exactly how this will be used in the future, it’ll be used by someone to make money without having to hire a real person.
This Rick Rubin thing shouldn't be news for any musician. Rubin has always been upfront and articulate about what it is that he does. And btw, his skillset is exactly what will be most valuable when AI gets to where it needs to be for music production
There should be a better name for his position... like Sound Guru, Musical Counselor, Green Molusque, or something... but "producer" is someone who "produces" a product, meaning he or her with such title, should record, edit, play or something of that kind at least.
@@benirodriguez9516I don't think it matters if a job title fits when what you requires some form of safety protocol, but what he does is much closer to what producers originally did than today's beats producers
@@Herfinnur I see your point... still there should be clarity in job titles. A beat producer, should produce "beats" and no songs/tracks, which is what a "producer" should be all about. If making film music, as it is more orchestral, that should be a film music composer/producer... the composer writes the music, the producer makes it happen... Usually today one does both jobs. I recognize that Rubin may apport his "mojo" into the music, by means of communicating with the artists, but I wouldn't call myself a "Producer" if I was him. I'd try to find a more fitting name for today's standards.
Yoo this device from 11:50 is by Love Hulten, they make some cool custom synths. Though they may not be the best, they have pretty cool concepts, you should review them on a video just cause! + wtf was that twitch perfomance of X
(Hook) baby why you be this way wait for you the end of days i know you cant feel my pain to everyone else im insane (Verse) Ive had enough of this highway, its busy like a friday the cars turned over sideways and im late losing charge of my batteries, losing all my faculties but i had to make that sacrifice to reach the castle in one piece couldnt make a connection, i wont settle for nothing but its a drop in the bucket man whats the repercussion scared scared out my mind to be old and alone but id rather rather be that way than be holding the ghost picking up the pace ill be chasing the coast accelerator mashing with toes, open up start than i go we're on different paths, where you went ill never know looking for you looking for my home, and right now imma be alone lookout for the rose all i get is thorns in my palm i reach out anyway even though im gonna fall and if you hit me back then you know im gonna call lead me right back to where i belong, in your arms
I think a lot of people here in the comments, and you as well Weever, aren’t understanding how insane the MusicLM is. I get your comment about the sounds and some content being “generic”, but it’s not pulling sounds from a sample or preset library. It’s generating a stereo mix from scratch, within seconds, from a sentence of text, using a neural net that was trained on stereo audio files. It’s not like it’s running a DAW in the background (god forbid it learns how to do that). That’s fucking bonkers and an incredible achievement for everyone involved, while also being extremely concerning for us musicians. Remember when that AI generated art piece won an art contest and we all laughed? We’re fucking next.
I don't get why people bother worrying about AI all the time. It's just another tool that will enable people to be creative and make stuff. It could be one of the greatest tools ever, in fact. You might as well embrace it and look for whatever creative possibilities it presents because it's not like you have a choice anyway. There's nothing anybody is going to say or do which is going to stop it.
Finally! Rick Astley himself sued the copycat. I really hate how Betty (Get Money) and other songs that ruined great original tracks and turning into lazy reboots (such as Twinkle Twinkle Little B*tch by Leah Kate and I'm Good (Blue) by David Guetta and Bebe Rexha) became popular last year due to TikTok's awful music taste.
There a small breakdown section in the track where it almost sounds they manipulated Rick Astleys voice to say "get money" . Yung gravy is still my Spirit Animal.
Rick Astley should be happy anybody that fucks with him is Young. Rick Rubin is a magic feather. I could have sworn on one of those segues you said, "Jews". I don't know if you noticed it, but this video was kind of long.
Rick Rubin take: I’m not gonna lie, I’ve literally never thought or heard someone else have this take on the audiences opinion not mattering. At the end of the day they really don’t know what they want, we are supposed to know what they like and we need to give them what had a good reaction last time
The rick rubin comments remind me of this producer i know who is a Berkeley Graduate that tells people they don't really know music theory, yet they create some of the most epic orchestral stuff for people.. yea sure.. You know what that is, ego. Trying to appear godlike, where they claim they have some god given talent and it just flows thru them... the only thing flowing thru Rick Rubin is some potato chip crumbs in that greasy beard... He's also a wizard and heavily into occult witchcraft.. not even kidding.
To be fair, I’ve met a guy who was musically illiterate but could play amazing jazz piano when he was drunk. And many musicians in the past knew very little music theory. Doesn’t mean they are good at everything, but they can be good at something without having a way to verbalize it.
The AI thing is fucking strange to me. I mean why wouldn't you start with like Heallthcare and trying to figure out how to cure something, but they're like"no, let's just fuck over the arts in general." Like the other day a guy prompted a generation of a time lapse of the milky way going over Joshua Tree. Not only did it fail to be what had been intended what's the purpose even if it did?? Basically, it devalues the act of going out there and doing the work of capturing the images, but to what end?? So, someone could say they got an algorithm to spit it out?? Other than grossly devaluing the work that goes into creating art, why would someone want to create AI music, art, or images?? Ultimately, it's all based on a data-set scraped from existing art and without the continued out put of real artists it will just become a feedback loop, but damnit if they haven't put the squeeze on actual artists for from what I can see no other reason than to say that they can.
Its over with guys. They got AI making masters now.........Hope u just do this for fun kuz its coming a nasty close......i wonder how they'll even revive the industry. Video killed the radio star, then the internet killed the video star.....
i believe they payed that old ass man to lie about the rhodes plugin. i do not have a good ear for frequencies & shit, like i'm awful at mixing, but the plugin 100% sounds worse, like some shit from out a phone speaker
You're misdirecting. The problem is capitalism, not AI. This has happened time and again -- technology automates away a certain amount or type of labor, a reactionary workforce blames the technology, the owners of the means of production profit, the working class is worse off, rinse, repeat. It's not going to stop without fundamentally changing the whole socioeconomic system. A bunch of atomized musicians whining about computers taking their jobs isn't going to change that and, should anyone get the idea to push back by strengthening IP law, that will only make things worse for both artists and consumers. You gotta collectivize.
That google AI is weak af there’s much better AI music generators out there Every body misses the point of AI music writing though. You’re not looking for a complete idea, you’re looking for a catchy bit to take and flip and expand kinda like idk samples 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
id like to hear AI generated Captain Beefheart. halfway joking, but im not too worried about AI generated music. its not very original. Go and listen to some Frank Zappa or even stuff like John Coltrane. the AI generated stuff that is anywhere passable is djent/distorted chuggy metal, because djent/nu-metal music can sound mushy and simple anyway. When you start to listen to FLAC recordings of super creative music even from the 70s you realize AI is way far off. What this should inspire us EDM guys to do is really push EDM forward and be original. Use humanization and experimentation with music theory and complex rhythms. Again, from 1 EDM artist to others, you guys should go back and listen to stuff like Frank Zappa. try out hot rats
@@codexstudios yeah, Ive seen at least a couple tweets related to that interview saying he was overrated and was just a fake music guru, suff like that
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RICK RUBIN INTERVIEW - musictech.com/news/music/rick-rubin-producer-technical-ability/
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BANDLAB BUYS AIRBIT - musictech.com/news/industry/bandlab-technologies-airbit-acquisition-takeover/
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00:14 RICK ASTLEY VS YUNG GRAVY
02:44 RICK RUBIN INTERVIEW
04:41 "STROKES"
05:57 SPITFIRE ALBION COLOSSUS
07:28 RADIOHEAD 64
08:04 GOOGLE AI MUSIC
10:35 BANDLAB BUYS AIRBIT
11:43 CACTI MAKES MUSIC
13:28 TAIGA SEMI MODULAR
14:34 ANOTHER GRANULAR EFFECT
15:21 ANOTHER LIVESTREAM MIXER
16:16 RHODES COMPARISON
16:58 FREE SH*T
18:00 OUTRO
so i watched this video and all it had was.... news
travesty
Mr. Weaver, they are going to have an awful number of lawsuits. Most of which are going to be against them. There are like a buzzillion vocals that sound exactly like that. The vast majority of which were written before said whiney plaintiff. I think that the biggest problem with these people is that they really don't know how to sing. I think this may be manifesting itself in the need to start a lawsuit on account of the shortcomings and feelings of inadequacies amongst a dimwitted industry that doesn't know how to make real music. We should all pray that Robert Johnson doesn't come back from the grave to sue the lead singer to Steppen Wolf.
I think it'll increase the demand for creativity. If it gets to the point where AI can create any particular flavor of boilerplate, then artists who can do more than just mimic micro genres will be in higher demand.
These people and AI will make me a god in the next 2 years! I’m proud to know how to play and create! Very thankful
@@maximustheproducer Teach me how to create something new that never existed but really beautiful. Please!
I agree. It'll eliminate generic sounding artists like Bonamasa and it'll force others to create far more interesting music.
Weaver Beats is the Scarce of the producing world
What Rick meant by saying “they only know what they’ve heard” is that the listener cannot make new sounds without the creator to lead you in the direction to feel their art so they cannot even tell them selves what they want, but only what they already like.
‘I’m sorry if you actually have a mannequin hand…’
😂😂😂😂
Ruben doesn't know yeah good one biggest pro troll of all time
would be dope if you did a bit more analysis on the Rubin situation, personally I think the good ear + decisiveness he purports to have is not something that can be traditionally learned/is easy to come by, which is kinda priceless
taste is something that can develop over time, just like a muscle. One of the best ways to develop taste is to go listen to a bunch of music, obscure or popular, that you wouldn't normally listen to. Most people don't seem to have taste because they don't get out of their comfort zone and are comfortable being spoon fed whatever comes up in popular culture.
i agree with you
@@wemustkungfufite I 100% agree!! 💯
There should be a better name for his title/position... like Sound Guru, Musical Counselor, Green Molusque, or something... but "producer" is/should be someone who "produces" a product, meaning he or her with such title, should record, mix, edit, play or something of that kind at least.
@@benirodriguez9516 creative director
the text to music stuff seems like it would be good for video creators/indie game makers for sure.
Man, you're great, and YES I subscribed but this is too intense on a Friday. I'll watch the rest when my cat lets me use the computer. Next Wednesday? Is that good? Sorry, I was talking to my cat.
That shirt is tough 🔥🔥🔥
The thing about that Google Music AI is like all AI tools, they’re haphazard, janky and don’t work (or sound) all the time. But you have to remember that this technology is developing at such a rapid pace that it’ll only be a few years before it begins stealing and creating something interesting, or is integrated with some kind of DAW that allows it to use decent virtual instruments to make music.
Musicians already have to fight tooth and nail for what little revenue streams they have, and though I don’t know exactly how this will be used in the future, it’ll be used by someone to make money without having to hire a real person.
The AI generated stuff sounds like someone put some random loops together.
Or like a product from Unison Audio
This Rick Rubin thing shouldn't be news for any musician. Rubin has always been upfront and articulate about what it is that he does.
And btw, his skillset is exactly what will be most valuable when AI gets to where it needs to be for music production
There should be a better name for his position... like Sound Guru, Musical Counselor, Green Molusque, or something... but "producer" is someone who "produces" a product, meaning he or her with such title, should record, edit, play or something of that kind at least.
@@benirodriguez9516I don't think it matters if a job title fits when what you requires some form of safety protocol, but what he does is much closer to what producers originally did than today's beats producers
@@Herfinnur I see your point... still there should be clarity in job titles. A beat producer, should produce "beats" and no songs/tracks, which is what a "producer" should be all about. If making film music, as it is more orchestral, that should be a film music composer/producer... the composer writes the music, the producer makes it happen... Usually today one does both jobs.
I recognize that Rubin may apport his "mojo" into the music, by means of communicating with the artists, but I wouldn't call myself a "Producer" if I was him. I'd try to find a more fitting name for today's standards.
Thanks for covering our Rhodes video with Steve Levine! - JC
Great video. Good headphone you’re wearing. I’ve got the same (well, I have the K240mkII). Rick Rubin is a legend. See you, Weaver.
Nice, a channel WNN broadcast.
N E W S 😤
More good stuff, thanks Massive Spot. 😄 Eat your greens man. 🥦
i love these news videos thank you
Yoo this device from 11:50 is by Love Hulten, they make some cool custom synths. Though they may not be the best, they have pretty cool concepts, you should review them on a video just cause!
+ wtf was that twitch perfomance of X
bro keep that, pliz, your content really Interesting ans needed News with good Mood, you upgrader 😅🙌🏽
This the Shit to watch on my lunch breaks
Bro I am Rick Rubin, Rick Rubin is me, period 🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 know nothing about all this music jargon, but I know how to make shit sound good and clean
Ruben just used LANDR
Bruh Rick Astley gotta relax."Immense Damage" ? O K A Y Ricky 🤦🏿♂️
Dude, i got rick rolled by an AD couple of days ago..
Then i found out Rick makes youtube ads to rickroll people, thats next level haha!
lol another bit of pretty standard modular kit described as basically never before seen
bro females singing XXX should be illegal like war crimes using bio nukes. that was unbearable. rip X💔
Man the music industry is the fucking worst. I thought we'd be past this by 2023
Just plug in the circle of fifths
man that was definately some new stuff
may i kindly ask you to post lyrics from song “insane”? it would help me to participate in your competition,
ps thank you for your videos!
(Hook)
baby why you be this way
wait for you the end of days
i know you cant feel my pain
to everyone else im insane
(Verse)
Ive had enough of this highway, its busy like a friday
the cars turned over sideways and im late
losing charge of my batteries, losing all my faculties
but i had to make that sacrifice to reach the castle in one piece
couldnt make a connection, i wont settle for nothing
but its a drop in the bucket man whats the repercussion
scared scared out my mind to be old and alone
but id rather rather be that way than be holding the ghost
picking up the pace ill be chasing the coast
accelerator mashing with toes, open up start than i go
we're on different paths, where you went ill never know
looking for you looking for my home, and right now imma be alone
lookout for the rose all i get is thorns in my palm
i reach out anyway even though im gonna fall
and if you hit me back then you know im gonna call
lead me right back to where i belong, in your arms
Yay news!!
Those AI song samples really do sound like music made by AI. Also, the decriptions/text used to create them was hilarious.
Massive news updates
I think a lot of people here in the comments, and you as well Weever, aren’t understanding how insane the MusicLM is. I get your comment about the sounds and some content being “generic”, but it’s not pulling sounds from a sample or preset library. It’s generating a stereo mix from scratch, within seconds, from a sentence of text, using a neural net that was trained on stereo audio files. It’s not like it’s running a DAW in the background (god forbid it learns how to do that). That’s fucking bonkers and an incredible achievement for everyone involved, while also being extremely concerning for us musicians.
Remember when that AI generated art piece won an art contest and we all laughed? We’re fucking next.
Yung gravy?!?!?!
They need a cooler name than Pittsburgh
Try Psion Modular.
Not overused. Nice ring yes?
Pittsburgh just doesn’t say ‘tech’
I don't get why people bother worrying about AI all the time. It's just another tool that will enable people to be creative and make stuff. It could be one of the greatest tools ever, in fact. You might as well embrace it and look for whatever creative possibilities it presents because it's not like you have a choice anyway. There's nothing anybody is going to say or do which is going to stop it.
Have you done a review of busyworkbeats narcoz plugin he dropped with NI?
Wow I didn't know Rick Rubin can't play an instrument or work a sound board.
I love when people call it a “sound board” bc really what that means is a button panel that plays radio jingles 🤣
always deep dive into Rubin
Newsss
noo not my jerbs
Video is so long it even has movie trailers in it
I don't mind long videos, as long as there is chapters.
I an the RIck Rubin of the Netherlands. Don't know shait
Finally! Rick Astley himself sued the copycat. I really hate how Betty (Get Money) and other songs that ruined great original tracks and turning into lazy reboots (such as Twinkle Twinkle Little B*tch by Leah Kate and I'm Good (Blue) by David Guetta and Bebe Rexha) became popular last year due to TikTok's awful music taste.
There a small breakdown section in the track where it almost sounds they manipulated Rick Astleys voice to say "get money" . Yung gravy is still my Spirit Animal.
i'm no stranger to love. Gravy knows the rules and, so do iiiiiii
oh sht hope i don't get sued. NEWS🤬
also on the word "twitcher"
its definitely the kind of word that people who don't use twitch call people on twitch
damn
Pretty long vid eh Weave??
lol
Unison as a drum pack out
RAD
73 keys is a widescreen synth.
This video just seemed so short
Rick Astley should be happy anybody that fucks with him is Young. Rick Rubin is a magic feather. I could have sworn on one of those segues you said, "Jews". I don't know if you noticed it, but this video was kind of long.
Bro what did X do to deserve that yo 😂
That spitfire thing is overwhelming
trance producers would make the generic 2nd AI beat 😂
YOOOOO PUT SOME RESPECT ON X NAME
5:58 real
i bet that they just convinces rick to do it
Lol they gotta stop spamming Rick Rubin just because Kanye called out music industry parasites
Good news coverage... 18 minutes is completely fine with me... 6 minute videos are to cut imo
Rick Rubin take: I’m not gonna lie, I’ve literally never thought or heard someone else have this take on the audiences opinion not mattering. At the end of the day they really don’t know what they want, we are supposed to know what they like and we need to give them what had a good reaction last time
Well in music you're right but in the art world it's the dominant theory.
The rick rubin comments remind me of this producer i know who is a Berkeley Graduate that tells people they don't really know music theory, yet they create some of the most epic orchestral stuff for people.. yea sure.. You know what that is, ego. Trying to appear godlike, where they claim they have some god given talent and it just flows thru them... the only thing flowing thru Rick Rubin is some potato chip crumbs in that greasy beard... He's also a wizard and heavily into occult witchcraft.. not even kidding.
To be fair, I’ve met a guy who was musically illiterate but could play amazing jazz piano when he was drunk. And many musicians in the past knew very little music theory. Doesn’t mean they are good at everything, but they can be good at something without having a way to verbalize it.
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you created a long video meme that will follow you for the rest of your life. also this is kinda a long video
I hate that mala's song: changes, got sampled so much over the years for bs like this 12:38
The AI thing is fucking strange to me. I mean why wouldn't you start with like Heallthcare and trying to figure out how to cure something, but they're like"no, let's just fuck over the arts in general." Like the other day a guy prompted a generation of a time lapse of the milky way going over Joshua Tree. Not only did it fail to be what had been intended what's the purpose even if it did?? Basically, it devalues the act of going out there and doing the work of capturing the images, but to what end?? So, someone could say they got an algorithm to spit it out?? Other than grossly devaluing the work that goes into creating art, why would someone want to create AI music, art, or images?? Ultimately, it's all based on a data-set scraped from existing art and without the continued out put of real artists it will just become a feedback loop, but damnit if they haven't put the squeeze on actual artists for from what I can see no other reason than to say that they can.
Its over with guys. They got AI making masters now.........Hope u just do this for fun kuz its coming a nasty close......i wonder how they'll even revive the industry. Video killed the radio star, then the internet killed the video star.....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Unison ads
i believe they payed that old ass man to lie about the rhodes plugin. i do not have a good ear for frequencies & shit, like i'm awful at mixing, but the plugin 100% sounds worse, like some shit from out a phone speaker
You're misdirecting. The problem is capitalism, not AI. This has happened time and again -- technology automates away a certain amount or type of labor, a reactionary workforce blames the technology, the owners of the means of production profit, the working class is worse off, rinse, repeat. It's not going to stop without fundamentally changing the whole socioeconomic system. A bunch of atomized musicians whining about computers taking their jobs isn't going to change that and, should anyone get the idea to push back by strengthening IP law, that will only make things worse for both artists and consumers. You gotta collectivize.
I don't think anybody should feel threatened by that video game music. Let's get real. It's pretty awful
Still though, there's people who need that kind of music for projects, .etc. It could potentially take jobs.
That google AI is weak af there’s much better AI music generators out there
Every body misses the point of AI music writing though. You’re not looking for a complete idea, you’re looking for a catchy bit to take and flip and expand kinda like idk samples 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
id like to hear AI generated Captain Beefheart. halfway joking, but im not too worried about AI generated music. its not very original. Go and listen to some Frank Zappa or even stuff like John Coltrane. the AI generated stuff that is anywhere passable is djent/distorted chuggy metal, because djent/nu-metal music can sound mushy and simple anyway. When you start to listen to FLAC recordings of super creative music even from the 70s you realize AI is way far off.
What this should inspire us EDM guys to do is really push EDM forward and be original. Use humanization and experimentation with music theory and complex rhythms.
Again, from 1 EDM artist to others, you guys should go back and listen to stuff like Frank Zappa. try out hot rats
Long video. You know, if you removed all the jokes the episode would be just as funny :D
rick rubin is the most overrated human in history.
bru, cancel culture vs rick rubin was one of the most bs convos I've seen this year
He was cancelled? For that clip in the video? Are you sure?
@@codexstudios yeah, Ive seen at least a couple tweets related to that interview saying he was overrated and was just a fake music guru, suff like that
@@croay "a couple tweets" is not cancel culture, it's a handful of people who don't understand
@@codexstudios thanks for correcting me mr. internet person
ej, ej