Mantle Decos change A LOT. Best Mantles Math in MHW Iceborne

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  • The deco slots in your mantles in MHW Iceborne changes A LOT. Infact one mantle is now VERY strong thanks to the addition of the deco slots.
    For the longest time in Monster Hunter world evasion mantle, rocksteady mantle, impact mantle, and temporal mantle were by far the go to mantles.
    But in Monster Hunter World Iceborne there is a new contender that can potentially completely change your mantle loadout.
    So hear is some math on the best mantles in MHW Iceborne and what loadout to run with them.
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  • @interneddsupreme3810
    @interneddsupreme3810 5 лет назад +387

    Glider mantle was always S tier in my heart

    • @godknightomega
      @godknightomega 5 лет назад +10

      Internedd Supreme cannot agree more. Heck I changed my mount call-out to "BATMAN!" because the amount of mounting I can pull off with it.

    • @KinsmokeWill
      @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +3

      @@godknightomega Tried it with a Rider's charm and Felyne Rider?? It gets crazy quick lol

    • @godknightomega
      @godknightomega 5 лет назад +1

      @@KinsmokeWill lol so basically "BATMAN!" but in stereo and on steroids.

    • @KinsmokeWill
      @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +5

      @@godknightomega and with the obligatory "NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA..."

    • @godknightomega
      @godknightomega 5 лет назад +2

      @@KinsmokeWill used to do that but it's cursed for me. Like literally I'll hum or start doing that and immediately get tail smashed outta the air.

  • @Tommaru
    @Tommaru 5 лет назад +151

    Something that wasn't mentioned about the Glider Mantle: This mantle is the best way to give EVERY weapon EVERYWHERE the chance to mount a monster, thanks to the clutch claw.
    Which makes it in Iceborne a lot better, even without the upgrade.
    When you use the claw on a monster and jump off, you can perform an aerial attack ASAP to deal mounting damage.

    • @Colt3d
      @Colt3d 4 года назад +4

      Oh wow never thought of doing it this way, nice tip

    • @masonqin
      @masonqin 4 года назад +1

      Dude thanks for the fucking protip!!!

    • @joshhiroti
      @joshhiroti 4 года назад

      Used this against Safi heaps

    • @Colt3d
      @Colt3d 4 года назад

      @@joshhiroti what weapon you used? Just curious

    • @basskillickeen1077
      @basskillickeen1077 4 года назад +2

      *laughs in insect glaive*

  • @JinJinxandTuna
    @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад +21

    Mantle decos sure make things interesting. Glider is super strong now, who'da thunk it.
    At the end of the day, if you really value the power from rocksteady/impact/evasion/temporal in that opening

    • @TheBrownestFalcon
      @TheBrownestFalcon 5 лет назад +6

      most importantly, you can maximize the uptime of roleplaying Batman in Monster Hunter, AND it's lore-compliant since you can think of Tool Specialist as Batman's utility belt

    • @toonlinkssbb515
      @toonlinkssbb515 5 лет назад

      How does stamina theif work with the pickle armor vs not.. im thinking of using it just not sure if its worth

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune 5 лет назад

      Plus glider can potentially get you mounts you otherwise couldnt. This may be a rare occasion, but its possible.

    • @nicholasmarquez3399
      @nicholasmarquez3399 5 лет назад +1

      You didn’t mention the felyine food skill which stacks with tool specialist

    • @mennykickens486
      @mennykickens486 4 года назад

      Wow so running item prolonger on the glider mantle would be better then running tool specialist, Neato

  • @Heisenberger_29
    @Heisenberger_29 5 лет назад +72

    One interesting idea that I read a few days ago is: if you have a weapon with hidden para/sleep/poison, you can use the Apothecary mantle with Free Element slotted in.
    This way, whenever the mantle is off you have Non-Elemental Boost, but when you put it on you can paralyze/poison the monster or put it to sleep.

    • @KinsmokeWill
      @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +3

      Intriguing, but you couldn't fully release the element that way, and even with the apothecary mantle it would probably be weaker than the weapon with 3 levels of Free element. Still intriguing though

    • @Heisenberger_29
      @Heisenberger_29 5 лет назад +2

      @LoCi Yeah, I looked it up and it seems like this mantle has a lvl3 slot and a lvl2 slot, so you could get Free Element 1 + a para/sleep/poison deco. I haven’t tested this strategy myself yet, but I’m sure that if you get a lot of attacks in while the mantle is on, it should be enough for at least 1 proc, specially if the monster is weak to the status you’re using.
      And if you’re using sleep or poison, you can take the mantle off manually as soon as it procs to immediately get NEB back and start the cooldown sooner so that you can put it back on sooner.

    • @KinsmokeWill
      @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +3

      @@Heisenberger_29 yeah while it's not ideal that is some added versatility for melee users

    • @LemonRush7777
      @LemonRush7777 5 лет назад +6

      Oh, interesting... Too bad in 1000 hours of mhw I never saw a single free ele deco...

    • @KinsmokeWill
      @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +2

      @@LemonRush7777 Yeh release jewels don't exactly fall from the sky, I've had several combinations since IB dropped though. Getting the most mileage out of offensive guard/release jewels currently

  • @jionmionskwisgaar1476
    @jionmionskwisgaar1476 2 года назад +5

    Me rocking the Ghillie mantle: "there's more?" 🗿
    "Alot more..."

  • @Cloudsheep93
    @Cloudsheep93 5 лет назад +216

    And to think, I've been using vitality mantle this whole time

    • @airzonasprite4060
      @airzonasprite4060 5 лет назад +28

      idk why anyone would use that. havent equipped vitality mantle since mhw launch. only good for a hit

    • @mrqkrakenp4183
      @mrqkrakenp4183 5 лет назад +20

      airzona sprite I always put it on to fight Vaal just so I could ignore the chip damage for a while.

    • @Narabedla4
      @Narabedla4 5 лет назад +5

      @@airzonasprite4060 while going through story, he makes it very chill

    • @Ace7of7Hearts
      @Ace7of7Hearts 5 лет назад +14

      Vitality mantel needs a buff to health hit

    • @whatamidoing6555
      @whatamidoing6555 5 лет назад +18

      @@Ace7of7Hearts Agreed or a cooldown reduction into 180 or 120 given how easy it is to break vitality in IB.

  • @tailgrowth
    @tailgrowth 5 лет назад +17

    Yeah, I pretty run Glider on almost every set now. My Sword and Shield sets really appreciate the mounting bonus as well.

  • @KinsmokeWill
    @KinsmokeWill 5 лет назад +8

    I've been using the glider for a couple weeks now, I found being able to glide after a clutch dismount and spam mounting attacks really nice as a CB main. It gives me the chance to score a knockdown while a monster's enraged which is quite valuable now people seem to be running agitator more.
    I use one of the level 4 slots for Flight/Physique as +30% attack is too good... now if only I had a maintenance jewel+, or ideally a Hard maintenance jewel if such a thing exists.

  • @hazembayado9521
    @hazembayado9521 5 лет назад +6

    You guys are a treasure to this community, keep up the fantastic work!

  • @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088
    @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088 5 лет назад +35

    Sometimes I use boosters just to protect my fashion hunting from all this mantle uptime

  • @TheJetHammer
    @TheJetHammer 5 лет назад +26

    I was actually in my item box theorycrafting ways to use glider mantle when I clicked on this video. I definitely agree glider is good.

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 5 лет назад +1

      Same just didnt know a good combo with it i like rock steady

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos 4 года назад

      you'd basicly be giving up 30 seconds of rocksteady for 5 mins of 2 agitater and w/e else you want in the other mantle possibly max out your crit chance if your low on affinity

  • @semiawesomatic6064
    @semiawesomatic6064 5 лет назад +23

    So, something that I thought of the other day that's specifically useful to bow users in multi-player, if you bring apothecary and stick either sleepcoat functionality or paracoat depending on the bow you have into the mantle, you basically get an extra free status or two every hunt. Not sure if it's worth doing over the glider/resistance combo for the extra Stam surge or constitution, but something to consider.

    • @ahzekahriman5840
      @ahzekahriman5840 5 лет назад +3

      semi awesomatic I was thinking about that too. I think it's a sound idea so you can almost always sleep the monster no matter which bow you use.

    • @SS2LP
      @SS2LP 5 лет назад

      semi awesomatic I mean it doesn’t need to always be optimal to be a good strategy. That would work well in multiplayer for a CC based bow build.

    • @semiawesomatic6064
      @semiawesomatic6064 5 лет назад

      @@SS2LP well yeah, but extra constitution on bow is kinda a big deal. It's easy to run out of stamina without it.

    • @SS2LP
      @SS2LP 5 лет назад +2

      @@semiawesomatic6064 Hardly, just manage your stamina and don't use all of it if you see or think an attack you really need to avoid is coming. Better yet practice keeping at least a single evasion worth of stamina at all times just for that. Its common knowledge that any game that uses stamina for evasion like monster hunter or the soulsborne games you never use all of your stamina.
      For the matter I specifically mentioned a CC build in multiplayer your goal with that won't be DPS it'll be keeping the monster controlled so the other weapons can hit it as hard and fast as they can. You can afford a lower DPS build for CC and don't don't even need to manage stamina as well because its likely the monster will change targets after attacking.

  • @karially3820
    @karially3820 5 лет назад +87

    This is almost an 100% uptime rock steady mantle with the Shara Ishvalda full set :D

    • @XenosvonFaneli
      @XenosvonFaneli 5 лет назад +13

      This is certainly where this strategy shines the most

    • @Heisenberger_29
      @Heisenberger_29 5 лет назад +13

      I’m probably going to make this my anti-Lunastra build, since having both Windproof and Earplugs is useful to fight her.

    • @NeroDeAngelo
      @NeroDeAngelo 5 лет назад +34

      I actually made a set for this already as soon as I got that Shara Armor because I thought "SHIT I have to make this happen =D"
      All 5 pieces of Shara Ishvalda Armor and the Shara Longsword and upgraded glider mantle (more on that below).
      With jewels it has the following skills:
      Crit Eye +6 (+ 7 with active mantle)
      Health Boost +3
      Recovery up +3
      Crit Boost +3
      Weakness Exploit +3
      Handicraft +3 (from charm. still don't have the upgrade materials for +4 charm)
      Partbreaker +3
      Coalescence +3
      Defense Boost +2
      Attack Boost +1 (just a random deko have nothing better, like Agitator or whatever else -_-')
      Protective Polish +1
      (Airborne +1 with active mantle)
      I really love this set!
      fully upgraded without augmentation (don't have materials for that yet) and with the Defense increasing Items in your inventory (Forgot their names) you have over 900 defense without buffs so it can tank quite a lot!
      The best thing is the glider mantle though! Not only can you fit two Lvl. 4 jewels in there, but when you use it (or any other mantle) it will trigger the set Bonus of the Shara Set: While wearing a mantle, you gain Tremor Resistance Lv3, Earplugs Lv5, max Windproof, and Flinch Free! And the Glider mantle holds on for 180 Seconds, so 3 full minutes, and it is a fix time that won't be decreased by getting hit or anything! Furthermore, it only has a cooldown of 120 seconds, so it can be used rather quickly again too! And in the meantime, while waiting for this mantle to recover, you can use a different mantle if you want! And coalescenes make this set also benefit from negative Effects, for when you recover them (which is more often than not really easy to do) you gain a nice Attack + 18, Element attack power +90, and Status buildup +15% while it is active (which is, IIRC, 45 seconds from the moment you recover from a negative ailment).
      It is really fun to use and I woud suggest people to try it out =D It is also visually one of the best looking armors, so no need for a Layered at all ;)

    • @gryu325
      @gryu325 5 лет назад +13

      rocksteady actually kills you against some of the tempered fights, bazelgeuse or anything that has one move but multiple hit boxes.

    • @phiavir5594
      @phiavir5594 5 лет назад +3

      Rocksteady without the main thing rocksteady is good for (immovable on damage) you mean.

  • @laijeffrey512
    @laijeffrey512 5 лет назад +7

    ha... remember those days when we were waiting for mhw to launch n only saw the trailer about mantles? i was like HOLY SHIT U CAN FLY N GLIDE AROUND TO MOUNT MONSTER!!! IM SO HYPE TO USE IT.... n after the game was launch... i probably only used once or twice just to get up where kirin was sleeping...

    • @ultimasurge
      @ultimasurge 4 года назад +1

      rofl thats me to this day. go back to camp just to put on the glider and avoid the climb

  • @Sorrelhas
    @Sorrelhas 5 лет назад +22

    I just use Glider as a makeshift -Proof mantle now. It's so good it trivializes most Elders.

    • @meathir4921
      @meathir4921 5 лет назад

      Is it better to slot 2 level 4 resistance decos than the Xproof mantles?

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 5 лет назад +5

      @@meathir4921 Xproof mantles give you blight resistance as well, but their protection is limited. Glider with two protection jewels doesn't protect you from blights, but you can "spam" the glider mantle. So I'd say pack both for the hunt.

    • @meathir4921
      @meathir4921 5 лет назад +2

      @@Sorrelhas Wait, isn't 20 resistance to a given element that element's blight res? HOOOOLLLLLYYYYYYY

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 5 лет назад +3

      @@meathir4921 I dunno the specific math, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. Xproof vs blights, Glider vs spam. With the Glider Mantle I could survive Teostra's downward flamethrower, that one where he stands in his hind legs to do. At point blank, no dodging. But I still caught fire.

    • @RandomQuestNPC
      @RandomQuestNPC 5 лет назад +3

      @@meathir4921 Yep, so unless your base armor has negative elemental resist to the specific element, glider with elemental res deco can basically be turned into a second proof mantle.

  • @Kavriel
    @Kavriel 5 лет назад +3

    I made the glider mantle upgrade just today, and i've been having fun with it. It's nice for a support build that benefit from having lots of skills, nice for bow and bowguns as well.

  • @kaelbeuk1
    @kaelbeuk1 5 лет назад +26

    I'm loving my frost sheath-crit draw GS set with glider uptime, I clutch onto the monster, drop, charge slash and repeat until I mount it (30% dmg because of frost sheath + 30% dmg because of airborne deco + 100% crit and crit boost and purple sharpness = good deeps)

    • @jirehjirehjirehjireh
      @jirehjirehjirehjireh 5 лет назад +1

      Jean Harlez I’m gonna try that out. I usually play HH, SnS, or LBG but that set sounds fun as hell

    • @rtiq270
      @rtiq270 5 лет назад +9

      They said Hunter Styles weren't in the game; they lied. Aerial GS is right here.

    • @kaelbeuk1
      @kaelbeuk1 5 лет назад +2

      @@jirehjirehjirehjireh You sir play gentleman weapons, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Don't forget quick sheath !

    • @BaAl-Alex
      @BaAl-Alex 5 лет назад +1

      imagine GS aerial as strong as in the base game with those aerial skills and buffs :D I will try this set for sure, but farming those velk. materials will take a while
      thanks a lot m8

  • @derelictdingo8593
    @derelictdingo8593 5 лет назад +3

    Why are there dislikes on this video? Why are there dislikes on any of the Monster Hunter Math vids? Did you click on the video and expect no math? Did you not want things explained to you concisely? 🤷‍♂️

    • @glaiveking2530
      @glaiveking2530 5 лет назад

      Derelict Dingo
      There are always dumbasses who have no idea whats going on and dislike the video and go away i guess. Or maybe some people genuinely disagree and show it by disliking the video 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @abhorrentillusions
    @abhorrentillusions 5 лет назад +6

    I noticed the glider mantles quick recharge time my first day playing iceborne, and pretty much main it assuming I'm not doing some odd combo fight(i.e. optional quest level 150 fighting namielle and kirin where i alternated thunder and water mantle to not die, sweat baby jeeezuz) i like what they did, because lets be honest, most of us put on temporal mantle and went into "it's lazy damage time" mode. i tried using temporal after getting it's upgraded version yesterday, and got hit a couple of times and it already lost it's evade. I determined having some water mantle against temepred namielle is better than the 10 seconds of "yooouuu caaaaan't caaaatch meeeee" i get from temporal. good job with the balancing capcom ayyyyyee.

    • @procow2274
      @procow2274 5 лет назад +3

      Your supposed to still try and dodge when using temporal mantle

    • @25Jake
      @25Jake 5 лет назад

      @@procow2274 Yah lol I was thinking the same thing. My temporal seems to last for a while but that's because I still attempt to dodge which will give you more uptime in the mantels decos as well. I bow main tho

    • @w1mark275
      @w1mark275 5 лет назад

      That's because temporal mantle was absolutely broken and made every other mantle a joke in comparison. They rebalanced it by making it last 30 seconds longer, but you lose 20 seconds of duration every time you get hit, effectively giving you

    • @remakeme
      @remakeme 5 лет назад

      @@w1mark275 i like temporal for the free wounding and flinching.

  • @dangerbeans9639
    @dangerbeans9639 5 лет назад +4

    I usually use Glider + Elemental mantle for maximum blight and status defense. With 2 tool specialist on the elemental mantles with whatever is most useful for a particular monster on the Glider mantle.

  • @blazedgamingkr1438
    @blazedgamingkr1438 5 лет назад +100

    So my 8 year old has been doing it better than me the whole time.

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 5 лет назад +1

      Lol ue 8 year old plays

    • @blazedgamingkr1438
      @blazedgamingkr1438 5 лет назад +28

      @@beasthaven1571 yeah. She loves monster hunter. I introduced it to her with 3 ultimate on 3ds. Love seeing her enjoy a the same game I do.

    • @Sif-r9n
      @Sif-r9n 5 лет назад +8

      Aww that's sweet!

    • @cheftrinker09
      @cheftrinker09 5 лет назад +2

      @@beasthaven1571 why not? i started playing halo 7 years old

    • @chillyan_cheese3344
      @chillyan_cheese3344 5 лет назад +10

      @@cheftrinker09 to be fair, Monster Hunter is way more complex than Halo lol but I can't even properly play a shooter game and i'm in my 20's haha

  • @hermitcard4494
    @hermitcard4494 3 года назад +2

    Glider Mantle with Shara armor bonus: full windproof, full earplugs, full tremor resistance ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
    Also, mount monster and aerial attack skill(30% attack in air).

  • @actionpants3138
    @actionpants3138 5 лет назад +5

    Seriously, since I saw those slots I’ve been running glider mantle on literally every weapon to great effect

  • @crazydave4916
    @crazydave4916 5 лет назад

    Hi JinJinx, just want to check:
    If i play Lunastra Tool Specialist secret which gives 50% cooldown reduction on mantles, does this allow me to wear rocksteady / evasion mantle everytime?
    Evasion - 300 seconds / 150 seconds
    Rocksteady - 360 seconds / 180 seconds
    Considering Glider has 180 seconds usage, this will allow me to use both mantle after 150 / 180 seconds in Glider mantle right? I'm thinking if we have at least LV3 Tool Specialist in base armor the glider mantle will be usable as well after 90 seconds usage from evasion / rocksteady.

  • @andybro3961
    @andybro3961 5 лет назад +3

    Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't Immunity mantle work as another combo option for glider as well?
    Has the same 210 base cooldown as elemental/bandit with a slightly lower duration of 120 seconds but since glider has a cooldown of 120 secs anyway it doesn't make a difference since you'll be switching to glider to get the better deco slots + Extra mount damage
    Also has a lvl3 + lvl2 slot giving better deco options than elemental/bandit and gives immunity to abnormal status, Meaning while up there's no Poison/Para/Sleep/Blast/Bleed/Def down/Miasma/Stun (Which also makes Thunderblight harmless in addition).
    The stun resistance plus it's versatility seems far more useful than using an elemental mantle that may not have any use against the monster your fighting.

    • @VGJunky
      @VGJunky 5 лет назад

      He mentioned immunity in the video and said slightly lower uptime yes

  • @mediocremason
    @mediocremason 5 лет назад +5

    Glider mantle is also the gateway to ghetto aerial style

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 5 лет назад

      Lol gliding arounds fun i get distracted

  • @maxjf1
    @maxjf1 4 года назад

    In a normal run (where the monster move to other areas) there is no big need to tool specialist, because you will get like 8 minutes of mantles effects (using glider-element-glider in that order). You can change The order to element-glider to get 5 minutes, because The monster will eventually go to another area, giving you time to recharge the mantle.
    For arenas, its very good to have at least 1 lvl of tool specialist

  • @yurareigiryu
    @yurareigiryu 5 лет назад +23

    I'm confused, what skills are worth giving up two mantles?

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat 4 года назад

    Finally remembered to go back and smash Sharas face in to finish my set.
    Thank you kind sir for your hard work and blessed numbers.
    If you can keep it active the assassins hood can work wonders also.
    6:24 for standard mantle improvements
    8:12 for 100% uptimes
    10:10 for individual mantle optimal savings. I'm not a fan of this table as your core comparison, it compares combined mantles with stand-alone and the % can be misleading.
    as you neatly stated, what matters is uptime vs recharge.
    extrapolated additional data (for build decisions) uptime/base/TS3 -TS1
    180/120/84 glide -12
    360/180/126 hood -18
    60-120-180/210/147 apo-immu-res (168/189 TS2/TS1) -21
    90-120/300/210 eva-drag -30
    90/360/252 imp-rock-gold-vit -36
    for the most part glider will combine with almost anything for massive uptime.
    imp-rock-gold-vit should generally be treated as one-shot/utility skills with a 36-180 second no-mantle cost for the utility (the cost is off-set/delayed depending on build/mantle replacement).
    Hood can allow for better uptime margins than glider but that's based on keeping it active and the higher base-recharge.

  • @JackboMack
    @JackboMack 5 лет назад +14

    Ugh.. whatever happened to Fashion>Function?! Too much mantle uptime these days. I’m tryin to look fabulous. ✌️ 👀

    • @JinJinxandTuna
      @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад +5

      Yo that's a mood tho. I take off my mantle before a kill tbh

    • @JackboMack
      @JackboMack 5 лет назад

      JinJinx and Tuna [Monster Hunter Math] THANK YOU. I knew I wasn’t the only one.. like what if the kill screen isn’t blurry asf and you have a sick pose?! You want that expired ass mantle on? Amateur hour!

  • @aeromorte
    @aeromorte 5 лет назад +28

    As a pc player i cant say enough how i want to play Iceborn right now :

    • @normanbates6638
      @normanbates6638 5 лет назад +4

      As a PS4 player I can't say how much I wish I wasn't a broke college student and could play games on PC right now :<
      -For real though, I feel for ya. I can imagine it sucks seeing all these videos.

    • @Zinken_
      @Zinken_ 5 лет назад +1

      Dont worry it coming sometime next year...
      Pepehands

    • @kiillu2008
      @kiillu2008 4 года назад

      Its there :D

    • @amarei9932
      @amarei9932 4 года назад

      Gonna sync with Console this year, with G-String pantie mods

  • @TheBrownestFalcon
    @TheBrownestFalcon 5 лет назад +2

    I'm glad that mantle diversity is actually a thing now (this method is a great incentive IMO), and more extra slots for things like Gunlance (which will always appreciate more slots) is awesome. 90%+ uptime on up to 2 extra Level 1/2 Decos is a big quality of life improvement for Gunlance in particular, since that's any two of Guard Up, Protective Polish (which benefits from any bonus time via Tool Specialist), or Evade Extender/Window (generally solid Level 2 Decos for Gunlance), or even Level 1 Decorations (Health Boost/Guard/Elemental Attack Gem/Artillery if you have weird Deco RNG).

    • @dangerbeans9639
      @dangerbeans9639 5 лет назад

      Yo! I used to use rocksteady to guarantee a flinch shit and WSB in the opening fight. Then I realized how busted the Glider mantle is.

  • @samuelele
    @samuelele 3 года назад +1

    Combined with assassins hood, the glider mantle makes 100% uptime + level 3/2 slots on the hood

  • @jasper7003
    @jasper7003 4 года назад

    Hey I know you guys are all about the min max and it helps me so much. I would like advice on the Ishvala Set and this mantles guide. I intend to run 5 piece of ishavala and use the most uptime mantles. Should I go alpha or beta on that set socketing for damage?

  • @pete.v
    @pete.v 5 лет назад

    Hi I really appreciate all of the math and research you guys do to give us proper information! Could you give me a link to the album of all the combinations of Mantles? It's not in the description atm

  • @trevinsingh9390
    @trevinsingh9390 5 лет назад

    This is the best new ever! I have all these tool specialist decos for lvl 4 and I love using that mantle for jumping attacks. Thank you, JinJinx and Tuna!

    • @trevinsingh9390
      @trevinsingh9390 5 лет назад

      wait a minute, I just realized something! With tool specialist secret from Lunastra, you can basically become Batman with the glider mantle!

  • @healexhelixvideos4680
    @healexhelixvideos4680 4 года назад +2

    I know I'm late to the party here, but forgive me, I'm a PC player. How good/bad is Glider + Vitality mantles then, seeing how Vitality is 120up/360down and its slots are levels 3 and 4 (compared to Glider's 180up/120down and 2 level 4 slots)? Though it's less uptime, I feel the decoration setup might be more worth.
    For reference, Bandit and the non-dragon X-proof mantles are 180up/210down with
    level 3 and 1 slots on Bandit, or
    2 level 2's on X-Proof

  • @RandomQuestNPC
    @RandomQuestNPC 5 лет назад

    Glider and any elemental mantle is basically why I enjoy running full shara set. Gets me earplug and flinch free without having to slot them, and still get room for most offensive skills, ending up with more skills than whenever I try to put earplug 5 in any other set.
    Obviously not "meta", but not only do I benefit from great utility skills, I get to look divine!

  • @Hi_howrudoin
    @Hi_howrudoin 4 года назад

    Do item prolonger work on mantle? I do it with glider and impact and find out glider get buffed from 3min to 4:30 min. Inpact however only last for its default duration.

  • @SinfireTitan
    @SinfireTitan 5 лет назад +11

    It's also possible to use the Glider and Assassin Mantles with the Shara set bonus for effectively infinite Rocksteady effects, but this is a meme and the Shara set's skills are trash.
    But in theory you could use this to make a Lance build that never stops charging. Ever.

    • @BaAl-Alex
      @BaAl-Alex 5 лет назад +1

      brilliant idea, need to try that :)

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune 5 лет назад +1

      @@BaAl-Alex no dont try it, shars gear is trash, excluding gloves. Crit boost glove are acceptable

    • @darktantion3033
      @darktantion3033 5 лет назад +3

      @@lolimmune have you considered having fun

    • @SinfireTitan
      @SinfireTitan 5 лет назад

      @@darktantion3033 He's right though, fun as this could be its still likely a bad idea.

  • @skall95
    @skall95 4 года назад

    GS+glider mantle has always been my main go to setup back in high rank. Glad that it's finally getting the limelight now :D

  • @ElPsyKongroo
    @ElPsyKongroo 5 лет назад +9

    If/when you have time can you do a comparative analysis on elemental vs impact cb phial effectiveness in iceborne

  • @sourfucc1544
    @sourfucc1544 5 лет назад

    Your videos are ASMR for me. I love listening to these as I fall asleep in the train each morning omw to college 😂

  • @leonktelos2118
    @leonktelos2118 3 года назад +1

    You are the best, thanks a lot!

  • @stephenfawkingiii8779
    @stephenfawkingiii8779 3 года назад

    Does a mantle have to be actually wrapped on your character for the gem slots to take effect, or do you get the gem slots skills just for the mantle being in your equiped items?

  • @ArtumTsumia
    @ArtumTsumia 5 лет назад

    The slots certainly breath new life into mantles. I'd pretty much settled on running one of the defensive mantles for the long uptime on skills. Rocksteady or Temporal works nicely for the other slot since it means that you can pretty much pull off a Clutch Claw Attack or Flinch Shot without having to worry about getting knocked off in the process. Glider Mantle fills much the same role by having a longer uptime, but without much added utility. Depending on the hunt, there's not much need for actual utility of the mantle itself, so the increased uptime is hands down more useful. I hadn't thought about it this deeply before, but I'll probably swap Glider Mantle into a few of my loadouts where the utility isn't very important.

  • @AlkisGD
    @AlkisGD 5 лет назад +3

    I've been using this mantle combo since vanilla MHW to avoid using effluvium expert in the Rotten Vale 😛

    • @Colt3d
      @Colt3d 4 года назад +1

      Doesnt this combo only make sense in iceborne because of the mantle decorations?

  • @BlazinBlack109
    @BlazinBlack109 4 года назад

    It still has many uses. I use DB so I got use to dodging monster attacks pretty well at this point. Vitality mantle can be used to sustain certain skills like resentment, heroics, peek performance, crisis, agitator, max might, crit draw.... And yes you could always go back to camp and switch to something more fitting to the hunt.

  • @Marksmaan
    @Marksmaan 5 лет назад

    For those wondering here is how to get all mantles and boosters.
    Do questline in vid for many (most ele, vit, chal, ghil, clean b, glide, ev, band, rs)
    Research Coral Pukei (water)
    Re SJho (Apoth)
    Re BV Vall (imm)
    Deliver Kushala and Teo wing (drag)
    Do Rathian optional that doesn't have speech bubble. Pink Power Grab I think. Unlocks Feisty Girl Talk. (heath b)
    Then MR quests
    125 Impact
    150 Temp
    175 Aff Boost

  • @DarkHeroCC
    @DarkHeroCC 5 лет назад +6

    Glider mantle meta!

  • @arckie
    @arckie 4 года назад

    I think you made a mistake. At 8:40 you say all elemental mantles get a level 2 and level 2 OR a level 2 and level 3. Which mantle has a level 2 AND level 3 slot with a 180 effect/210 CD?

  • @dehzealot4887
    @dehzealot4887 5 лет назад +1

    What is the defense difference between each rarity (9 to 10 to 11 to 12) after augmenting and maxing the armor lvl?

  • @user-kv3yr8gj6z
    @user-kv3yr8gj6z 5 лет назад

    I think everyone would appreciate a video of decoration. Farming .. because that’s the only thing we lack when we start afresh

  • @normanbates6638
    @normanbates6638 5 лет назад +1

    That feeling when you go and check your deco's knowing that your not going to have the ones you need and.... They're there. 2 tool specialist/challengers yay.

  • @DoinDMG
    @DoinDMG 5 лет назад +7

    Omg this is what it must feel to wear the infinity gauntlet

  • @TheSinexdeath
    @TheSinexdeath 5 лет назад

    Been using Glider/Ele Resist Mantle + Full Shara Set for a Meme Kinsect Only armor set with some hilariously effective results. Completing 20 minute investigations don't seem like a daunting task anymore.

  • @Strider-Ragnarok
    @Strider-Ragnarok 5 лет назад

    Temporal Mantel with Switch-Axe plus new claw mechanics is fucking amazing in my opinion. Once you charge the phail put on Temporal Mantle, use claw into discharge and repeat. Iceborne is one of the best DLC ever.

  • @joshhiroti
    @joshhiroti 4 года назад

    Been using Destroyer/Maintenance x2 on glider mantle for the full TS3 set, next mantle typically ready before Glider even ends

  • @milksu
    @milksu 5 лет назад

    I used to use glider with GS and go for a airborne build to keep mounting monsters. I was surprised by how much glider was buffed this expansion

  • @2ecStatic
    @2ecStatic 5 лет назад

    So is this combination running Tool Specialist in almost every slot of both mantles? What exactly is the decoration set up?

  • @wkrick
    @wkrick 4 года назад

    I'm still confused about how many points of tool specialist you really need and where to put it (gear, one mantle, both mantles?). Can you give some concrete examples for Glider/Bandit and Glider/Elemental with actual gems? Thanks

  • @DTPandemonium
    @DTPandemonium 5 лет назад

    If you get tool specialist 5 you can have 100% mantle uptime on rocksteady+glider as well.

  • @Hihi-pv3qg
    @Hihi-pv3qg 5 лет назад

    Question is, is having no mantle downtime and almost permanent deco slots worth not going for the other mantles (Rock, Impact, etc.)? Personally I like the comfiness that comes with Rocksteady/Goldy Mantles, since most monsters have the ability to wombo combo you from full health.

  • @sativaswift3778
    @sativaswift3778 5 лет назад

    Glider + clutch claw = mount. Just release the hold of the clutch claw and you fall slower right next to the monster giving you enough time for a free swing in the air. Handy to get a mount after enraging a monster from a previous clutch claw yeet.
    Glider & impact mantles are What I use on my slugger build cuz I love controlling/dictating the fight. Yeet, K.O. mount wax & repeat until the monster is exhausted. Toss in traps & environmental hazards & you can pretty much script the entire fight in your favor for a super clean run. It's not max deeps but it is insane control.

  • @itzzzdubstep1811
    @itzzzdubstep1811 4 года назад

    I am Confused
    Does the gems socketed in your mantle only gets activated when you wear the mantle?

    • @Kwancards
      @Kwancards 4 года назад

      Yes that correct only active when you have the mantle active

  • @Sunaki1000
    @Sunaki1000 4 года назад

    Besides Decoslots, the Clutchclaw into Mountdamage Combo whit Glidermantle is pretty usefull as well.

  • @drewb1979
    @drewb1979 5 лет назад +3

    Combine with the Namielle set for maximum meme status.

  • @Omegaman025
    @Omegaman025 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the data guys, keep it the awesome videos

  • @IZUMI_SAGIRI
    @IZUMI_SAGIRI 5 лет назад

    Thanks for all those data 👌

  • @chaosxzero6138
    @chaosxzero6138 5 лет назад +1

    (Just gonna pretend someone saw my comment speculating this many videos ago) Finally a video that explains what my small voice could not. Glider is SS Tier in IB for slot uptime alone. The aerial memes makes it that much stronger. Happy Hunting!

  • @ahzekahriman5840
    @ahzekahriman5840 5 лет назад +1

    Glider Mantle hasn't really left my loadouts. The time you get to use it and the cool down is top tier. It also has 2 lvl 4 slots

  • @Mamiya645
    @Mamiya645 5 лет назад

    Running Nerg hammer with Shara full and having a lovely hunting life up in high Grinding Lands, laughing at roars, walking through storms and generally staying on my feet. I don't regret dropping my first five great spiritvein loldroprate gems on it.

  • @Yamaneko81
    @Yamaneko81 3 года назад

    Can someone summarize this for me? english is not my native language, should i just run glider mantle with 2 tool specialist decos? and use it while the other mantle charges?

  • @Hokagebam
    @Hokagebam 5 лет назад +10

    Why don't we get an insect glaive meta?!?!? 😢 Or at least weapon augmentations.

    • @HeavyMetalLink05
      @HeavyMetalLink05 5 лет назад +1

      The LS meta set is the same set that IG uses, and most Melee weapons for that matter

    • @Voidsent_
      @Voidsent_ 5 лет назад

      Ig, ls, sns use same set.

    • @KyloB
      @KyloB 5 лет назад +1

      @@HeavyMetalLink05 what set is that?
      I've kinda just made my own little thing and haven't really checked if it's up to par with the better players
      Crit eye 7
      Agitator 5
      Attack 4(5)
      Weakness exploit 3
      Evade window 5
      Crit boost 3
      Health boost 2
      Ruiner nergi insect glaive (edit, totally forgot the armor pieces)
      Brachy helm b (agitator, crit eye)
      Rex roar mail b (crit boost, crit eye)
      Ruinous vambraces B (crit boost, crit eye)
      Empress coil B (tenderizer+evadewindow, crit boost)
      Garuga graves B (crit eye2, tenderizer, tenderizer)
      Evade charm LV4

    • @HeavyMetalLink05
      @HeavyMetalLink05 5 лет назад +5

      @@KyloB The set is
      Teostra B+ helm
      Brute Tigrex B+ chest
      Teostra B+ gloves
      Teostra B+ waist
      Garuga B+ legs
      Challenger Charm
      Use Ruiner IG and augment for health regen and status
      Gem in everything you need to have
      Crit Eye 7
      Weakness Exploit 3
      Crit Boost 3
      Agitator 5
      Then put whatever else you want on it

    • @iluvyunie
      @iluvyunie 5 лет назад

      @@KyloB teo is used mainly for masters touch
      But your skills are pretty great imho, and if you don't mind sharpening occasionally it's no big

  • @manuelito1233
    @manuelito1233 5 лет назад +1

    Shara armor and these mantles gets a whole lot more interesting,

  • @Jd_hendrix
    @Jd_hendrix 4 года назад +2

    Damn I didn’t know the glider mantle recharge time was only 120 seconds. That’s how long the temporal mantle effect duration is. I can go glider, temporal, then glider with no waiting for recharge. First 8 mins of a fight with extra decos. What a game changer!

    • @Hawkerton
      @Hawkerton 4 года назад +4

      well thats assuming you never get hit with temporal mantle on

  • @loganmackey2994
    @loganmackey2994 5 лет назад +3

    Haven't finished the video yet but does anyone know the damage increase for the evasion matle proc and for how long?

  • @alenezi989a3
    @alenezi989a3 4 года назад +3

    I only watch your videos to hear you say How-Ever

  • @Hibiki_Io
    @Hibiki_Io 5 лет назад +2

    I’ve been using tool sp+part breaker on my glider and part breaker on my element mantle

    • @jroc1176
      @jroc1176 5 лет назад

      Great minds think alike! It goes well with my Partbreaker/Health Boost combo jewel. Hopefully we can get Partbreaker/Crit Eye

  • @NeroDeAngelo
    @NeroDeAngelo 5 лет назад +1

    Say, i might be wrong now, but don't the elemental res Mantles lose some up-time whenever you get hit, like temporal? Because I think they do =/ but I am not 100% sure...

  • @astartespete
    @astartespete 5 лет назад

    Very interesting, I really need to look into playing about with that. Or just slot in hard defense jewels, cos I've got 2 and we know defense up is sooooo good ;)

  • @joewang403
    @joewang403 5 лет назад

    I noticed Jinjinx did not have the modified water proof mantle, which I am also missing. Is there a special condition for this one?

    • @klatschi7968
      @klatschi7968 5 лет назад

      I dunno its one of a few i have unlocked yet so... \-_-/

    • @austorious
      @austorious 5 лет назад

      Gotta do the tempered coral pukei optional

    • @BenTheBored
      @BenTheBored 5 лет назад

      I believe you get it from the "Put that red cup away" from the armory lady in Seliana - not sure if there's a requirement other than needing to be able to hunt Coral Pukei.

    • @loganmackey2994
      @loganmackey2994 5 лет назад +1

      Pretty sure it is based off of your coral puki research, once you get it high enough then it unlocks I think

    • @BenTheBored
      @BenTheBored 5 лет назад

      @@loganmackey2994 this seems like the most accurate! I had to get my Vaal and Savage Jho research up to unlock certain quests for their mantle upgrades.

  • @copperCCSD
    @copperCCSD 5 лет назад

    Once in Base World I made a meme crit draw aerial GS set that abused a quirk where the Glider Mantle sheathes your Weapon automatically when airborne. It was shit for dps even before Aerial GS got nerfed but hey it was silly and that’s what counts.

  • @camus25555
    @camus25555 4 года назад

    My brain melted, so many number everywhere and maths :D

  • @narutotrickzxtv3D
    @narutotrickzxtv3D 5 лет назад +1

    i dont mean to be that one guy in the comment section but im going to be that guy in the comment section the glider mantle is good because of the slottage it gives, but on its own it doesnt really do much, and its still only as good as your decorations that you currently have so unless you have 4+ of all the good stuff for the most part is it really worth replacing for baby mantle or roar proof mantle? and this is speaking in terms of player level and effectiveness.

  • @Iseenotix
    @Iseenotix 5 лет назад

    I personally use Glider/Immunity Mantle on my Namielle PEP CB set. I get 100% uptime and am able to fit extra skills that I normally couldn't because of Namielle's trash skills.

  • @zackfake1253
    @zackfake1253 4 года назад

    Ya, i prefer to just run complementary decos in the mantles. Stuff like divine blessing or recovery 2 on my rocksteady or slugger 2 on my impact, and i just make sure i take a mixed deco in my actual build so those skills are maxed while mantles are active, id rather i hyper focus the utility of the actually good mantles rather than use trash mantles as stat sticks (cloths?) that ill have to micromanage during a hunt so im not wasting deco uptime

  • @danf6975
    @danf6975 5 лет назад

    Really gooood deco slots

  • @kky.x
    @kky.x 3 года назад

    How do you put decorations on mantles?

  • @dc3725-g6q
    @dc3725-g6q 4 года назад +2

    What happens when you put handicraft on a mantle?

  • @lolimmune
    @lolimmune 5 лет назад +1

    Boosters seem alot better now

  • @sintwelve
    @sintwelve 4 года назад

    What happens if you put on a Mantle with Handicraft? Does your sharpness increase?

  • @Pliskkenn
    @Pliskkenn 5 лет назад

    Gonna pair this with the Shara set bonus for rampant skills.

  • @Reaper-kf4yb
    @Reaper-kf4yb 5 лет назад

    2Times Friendship in Gliedrmantle is AWSOME dont only think of downtime.. Glidermantle + Airborne and Affinity sliding for hammers is although awsome.. Or if your a elemental Bowgunuser you dont fire al time elemental but you can upp the effect with the mantle and use it in connection its a resourcemanagement and not fr getting 2 meager level 2 skills... which is not as effektive in my opinion

  • @maxjf1
    @maxjf1 4 года назад

    Vitality mantle with peek performance its good for increase damage (as long you avoid getting hit)

  • @lunaruno9920
    @lunaruno9920 4 года назад

    is that why dots are on the skills when putting deco on mantles because im not wereing the mantle

  • @wolf-marks9353
    @wolf-marks9353 4 года назад

    What are the best decorations for the bandit mantle?

  • @rickcabrera49
    @rickcabrera49 5 лет назад

    Their entire new video is basically “fuck your math”

  • @dukenecromancer245
    @dukenecromancer245 4 года назад

    Glider has been the only mantle ive used my entire play through

  • @dcphillips1991
    @dcphillips1991 4 года назад

    Vitality mantel and coalescence is a good combination for elemental builds.