Glutton 2 Electric Boogaloo: Shield Zinogre HBG MHW Iceborne

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • This Heavy Bowgun Build is literally the best way to kill monsters fast, easily, and safely in MHW Iceborne. Its actually stupid how good and easy to use this Shield Zinogre Heavy Bowgun Build.
    The Zinogre heavy bowgun is literally the most overtuned, ridiculously stacked weapon in Monster Hunter World Iceborne.
    With a full damage Heavy Bowgun build it hits insanely high damage numbers.
    With a stupidly tanky Shield HBG build, the Zinogre HBG still deals higher DPS than half of the melee weapons. While using a Lance shield with level 5 guard.
    In our opinion, the insane safety and power behind this build makes it the best Heavy Bowgun Build in the game for safe, consistent, and fast clears.
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  • @spammerman7556
    @spammerman7556 5 лет назад +2215

    Finally, a real gunlance.

    • @aheroforfun5541
      @aheroforfun5541 5 лет назад +36

      Best comment

    • @MattyBudzzz
      @MattyBudzzz 5 лет назад +4

      Spammer Man ah nice

    • @Sapheiorus
      @Sapheiorus 5 лет назад +6

      OOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!! DAT BUUURRN!!!

    • @monstacobra7774
      @monstacobra7774 5 лет назад +16

      Our battle will be legendary!

    • @koisj8310
      @koisj8310 5 лет назад +7

      Okay ill give you this one simply because i laughed for 5 minutes

  • @blazedgamingkr
    @blazedgamingkr 5 лет назад +741

    What I learned?
    "This gun is stoopid"

    • @veggiecat6695
      @veggiecat6695 5 лет назад +10

      Blazed Gaming KR And lance shield and guard 5!

    • @DaKingTTV
      @DaKingTTV 5 лет назад

      Blazed Gaming KR the funny thing is the zinogre hbg in mhgu is also STOOPID and one of the best HBG to use in MHGU unless you had Thunderlord zinogre HBG

  • @murkyone4508
    @murkyone4508 5 лет назад +960

    Imagine being 700+ hours in and still not having a guard up gem

    • @Frankie.Gonzalez
      @Frankie.Gonzalez 5 лет назад +90

      Same dude, that shit hurt my soul as a lance main. But on the bright side I can farm gems easier with this set lol.

    • @emilhappy5696
      @emilhappy5696 5 лет назад +42

      876hrs in and i dont have one.. As the ONLY deco, besides for thoes crazy r4 deco. I even have 20+ handicraft, spread, forceshot and sharpener

    • @_syzygy_
      @_syzygy_ 5 лет назад +5

      Yeah i feel you there, the exact same happen to me till i finally got it at around 800~900 hours, keep at it man!

    • @emilhappy5696
      @emilhappy5696 5 лет назад +2

      @@_syzygy_ Thanks man :) We never give up !
      I just Know that when it finally drops, it will be in a 4slot one With damn crises on xD

    • @bottlebrushgames5556
      @bottlebrushgames5556 5 лет назад +5

      Right there with yas. Just got my 1st 1 slot attack jewel 800 hrs in as well -_- pre ice Bourne farming lava fish I woulda lost my shit but now Its kinda redundant. Still hanging out for 1 of these and I can pine over god tier 4 slots now

  • @AnvilofCrom666
    @AnvilofCrom666 5 лет назад +481

    Ok I must say that showing a poverty build is EXCELLENT! I’m terrible at this game but I love it and seeing an effective budget build to work toward has me super excited! Cheers!

    • @blazepyros
      @blazepyros 5 лет назад +17

      Same. It gets so disheartening to see constant builds that have a stack of decos that have an almost zero drop rate and relies completely on rng to ever be able to recreate it in my own game.

    • @KamenRiderRaiden
      @KamenRiderRaiden 5 лет назад +3

      The fact you call it a poverty build makes it even more hilarious how much shit ive broken in 2 using it

    • @Heathcliff_Hater
      @Heathcliff_Hater 5 лет назад +4

      You say its a buget build but you need crit jewels I HAVE NONE

    • @irondragoon5502
      @irondragoon5502 5 лет назад +1

      @@Heathcliff_Hater I've gotten a lot from Guild Alchemy/Steamworks. Farm up some fuel and try that route?

    • @evolbetty4598
      @evolbetty4598 4 года назад +4

      I got excited about the poverty build too lol

  • @TicoB88
    @TicoB88 Год назад +7

    4 years later I’m still coming back to this video

  • @binskibub7793
    @binskibub7793 5 лет назад +244

    • High damage
    • Lance shield
    • Damage that is more consistent than a lance
    • High range
    This thing is stoopid!

    • @aniervg166
      @aniervg166 5 лет назад +19

      the fact that with guard 5 plus shield mods is even better than lance with guard 5 is definitively stoopid

  • @Bagakoo
    @Bagakoo 5 лет назад +203

    *looks at lance*
    sighs...
    *takes to the back of the barn*

    • @JinJinxandTuna
      @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад +113

      And then shoot it with a Spread 3 TankShotgun

    • @jmacruisecontrolfc8753
      @jmacruisecontrolfc8753 5 лет назад +5

      @@JinJinxandTuna lmao

    • @Bagakoo
      @Bagakoo 5 лет назад +30

      You know what’s baffling? Best Doggo HBG w/ shield n +5 Guard takes NO chip dmg while a lance +5 Guard does for the same attacks and with more knock back on some attacks.
      Starting think there’s a bug affecting lance 😑

    • @lukafireman
      @lukafireman 5 лет назад +2

      @@Bagakoo This game is a bug.
      A dung beetle if I may.

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 5 лет назад +226

    Zinogre HBG, breaking another MH game.

    • @meesalopia404
      @meesalopia404 5 лет назад +23

      Lol it's been broken twice before this as well!

    • @vxdroid32
      @vxdroid32 5 лет назад +20

      Well technically daoras ceti was better if you had a god charm

    • @SmugLookingBarrel
      @SmugLookingBarrel 5 лет назад +5

      @@vxdroid32 I think if you had a God charm, you could fit critical eye 3 with Zinogre and not Daora, but I'm not sure. I've never had a god charm.

    • @NeocrimsonX
      @NeocrimsonX 5 лет назад

      @@vxdroid32 daora was def best pierce in 4u

    • @Kumoiwa
      @Kumoiwa 5 лет назад +7

      @@NeocrimsonX ??? Never heard of that, I thought best pierce HBGs in 4U were Seregios for evade reload, Crimson Fatty for limiter removed and Gravios for siege firing

  • @travismmills
    @travismmills 5 лет назад +9

    I was looking for a good, safe spread hbg build. This is awesome, thank you!

    • @lachlan4534
      @lachlan4534 5 лет назад

      If you drop fortify you can add divine blessing 5.

  • @drillspin1
    @drillspin1 5 лет назад +76

    Great video, tho one thing you guys missed about offensive guard HBG is that there's another way to trigger it, if you pull out the slinger and swap back to the bowgun right before getting hit it'll proc the skill, just thought ya'll'd like to know

    • @O_RLY
      @O_RLY 5 лет назад +2

      But it's it faster than shooting?

    • @drillspin1
      @drillspin1 5 лет назад +9

      @@O_RLY not sure if it's faster but it's definitely alot more controllable with the timing since your able to pull the slinger out at any time and be able to pull the bowgun back up whenever during that time

    • @KingNexusMOCs
      @KingNexusMOCs 4 года назад +1

      I love how you got y'all'd right.

  • @yoloswagins1101
    @yoloswagins1101 5 лет назад +13

    Finally got a guard up deco and literally cried out in happiness. This gun has definitely made the game more fun for me

  • @mctankies
    @mctankies 5 лет назад +27

    I'm loving the Futurama/MHW memes as of late.

  • @darkela5
    @darkela5 5 лет назад +49

    Glutton 2.0 new and improved

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune 5 лет назад +4

      Sadly.

    • @whatamidoing6555
      @whatamidoing6555 5 лет назад

      @@lolimmune Cheer up! Norm ammo 3 builds can deal 200+ damage per shot with scope

    • @shitbox7853
      @shitbox7853 5 лет назад

      @@whatamidoing6555 it hits like a truck

  • @seanrandall4954
    @seanrandall4954 3 года назад

    Once I shut off the damn RUclips terrible captions this was extremely useful thanks for spending the time and sharing some cool builds

  • @TicoB88
    @TicoB88 5 лет назад +109

    Bruh now there’s wait times 😩😩😩. It’s better just seeing the vid drop 😂.

    • @TicoB88
      @TicoB88 5 лет назад +3

      Still need a shield and extra spread jewel.

  • @No__Vanity
    @No__Vanity 5 лет назад +144

    For those who only have 1 spread jewel:
    Gold rathian helmet a
    Kirin Chest a
    Arthian arms a
    Odogaron Waist b
    Gold rathian legs a
    Gets you exactly the same skills except the fortitude/free meal (depends on decorations you got.... again)
    if you dont have any spread jewels......:
    use this gun anyways because its still broken

    • @Lonelysandman
      @Lonelysandman 5 лет назад +4

      I have a divine protection and release lvl 4 gem and with that I can get all the skills plus divine blessing lvl 5 which is overkill lol

    • @striffee1542
      @striffee1542 5 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the set, although, with my skill level, I'll probably get the jewel before I kill an MR Kirin. Tbh, I'm not even bad, I just can't stand Kirin, not a fun fight, Imo.

    • @Heisenberger_29
      @Heisenberger_29 5 лет назад +1

      @Striffee I used to dislike fighting Kirin too, but now that we can soften his body with the clutch claw, he’s much more bearable and actually kinda fun, because you don’t have to focus exclusively on attacking his head anymore.

    • @Martin-yh7vi
      @Martin-yh7vi 5 лет назад

      @@Heisenberger_29 it's kinda hard but sticky ammo lbg or hbg works the best for Kirin cause it doesnt have a high stun threshold. More so now cause a lot of weapons have higher stun value of attacks. Only problem is you need to have memorized his attacks.

    • @ventedthesenuts
      @ventedthesenuts 5 лет назад

      Hey do you have a recommendation ona. Substitute HBG i have not progressed or have thr materials to build this one and would like alternatives

  • @Denamic
    @Denamic 5 лет назад +25

    Just tried this. Even with an incomplete build with just the first tier of the zindoggo HBG, it's already ridiculously op.

  • @Mothringer
    @Mothringer 5 лет назад +20

    In my experience its actually been super easy to activate offensive guard with a very similar build. The timing on it is pretty forgiving with how short the attack commitments are.

    • @369darkness
      @369darkness 5 лет назад +10

      Just use activate your slinger shot and cancel it, its so much easier tbh.

    • @arypramana6154
      @arypramana6154 5 лет назад +4

      @@369darkness *what have you done*

    • @369darkness
      @369darkness 5 лет назад +5

      @@arypramana6154 people will eventually find out, just accelerated the process ;)

    • @JinJinxandTuna
      @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад +4

      Oh yeah its honestly not difficult to proc off guard, there's a few techniques to proc it that work very consistently.
      But these sets focus on comfiness, and off guard is much less comfy than pressing r2 and just stopping when something is about to hit you.

  • @killaclownmcl1
    @killaclownmcl1 5 лет назад +19

    I became a HBG main back when I was hr29. A lot of my friends were talking smack about how HBG was gonna be useless and get rekt by the monsters in iceborne.....well I say to them.....stoopid

  • @xXJIJIPONGXx
    @xXJIJIPONGXx 5 лет назад +175

    So in summary:
    Stoopid over-tuned lance shield.

    • @bboy458
      @bboy458 5 лет назад +3

      I really want a Shotgun Lance now lol

    • @rickeymoser1114
      @rickeymoser1114 5 лет назад +6

      @@bboy458 Wide Gunlance?

    • @bboy458
      @bboy458 5 лет назад +1

      @@rickeymoser1114 yea, i wish

    • @codyeveryday5432
      @codyeveryday5432 5 лет назад +24

      Guys what if....just hear me out,if they made a Lance that was also a gun? Call it....Lancegun?
      I'll see myself out...

    • @bboy458
      @bboy458 5 лет назад

      @@codyeveryday5432 What if they gave Wide Gunlance a shotgun effect instead of the uncharged top damage....

  • @karially3820
    @karially3820 5 лет назад +8

    JinJInx and Tuna: This HBG is Stoopid!!!
    Zinogre HBG: No you!

  • @kaelbeuk1
    @kaelbeuk1 5 лет назад

    That poverty build is the best thing, if doable it covers all the deco issues I and many other have with every build you put out ! Keep doing it please, whenever possible, really helpful.

  • @a.z.pantera5577
    @a.z.pantera5577 5 лет назад +81

    This gun is stoopid af, but I'm glad that one of the most overpowered weapons in the game belongs to Zinogre. To me, it feels correct.

    • @CursingKILLA
      @CursingKILLA 5 лет назад +7

      Thunder wolfo best monster

    • @carlos-zy7vx
      @carlos-zy7vx 5 лет назад +1

      If only his theme remix was as good as his bowgun

    • @IzanagiO
      @IzanagiO 5 лет назад +5

      @@carlos-zy7vx I want his 4u theme back

    • @carlos-zy7vx
      @carlos-zy7vx 5 лет назад +4

      @@IzanagiO same, his world theme has a disturbing lack of electric guitar

    • @Azsnas
      @Azsnas 5 лет назад +1

      I wanted his dual blades to be super beastly ... but kirin owns that without safis existance.

  • @StregaBDO
    @StregaBDO 5 лет назад +1

    3am, closes monster hunter, sees this video in my suggested, boots monster hunter back up

  • @Kaze02se
    @Kaze02se 5 лет назад +28

    "With basically NO learning curve"
    Me: challenge accepted.
    *proceeds to die during High Rank the Greatest Jagras hunt*

  • @Xilibrius
    @Xilibrius 5 лет назад +2

    I love the clip of you fighting the Diablos I found myself saying the exact same thing halfway through my first hunt with what I could put together of the build. I only died once on a tempered Tobi kadachi because I was going for the tail weekend when he went and uses attack

  • @grislord
    @grislord 5 лет назад +6

    The moment I've got zinogre hbg I completely destroyed every monster in guiding lands.And that buff from fortify omg you are pretty much unstoppable.

    • @ahzekahriman5840
      @ahzekahriman5840 5 лет назад

      grislord Unreal Tournament voice: *U N S T O P A B L E*

    • @ArlanKels
      @ArlanKels 5 лет назад

      2 Months Later
      Is it still game breakingly overpowered?
      Does it have any weakpoints or problems?

  • @Morgan1Hay
    @Morgan1Hay 5 лет назад

    Excellent video. I'm happy to see there's such a ronchy set for making the MR grind that much easier!

  • @astartespete
    @astartespete 5 лет назад +11

    I know what I'll be using to grind my MR rank to 200 now. 1 big chip damage move would be brute tigrex roar beam, that hits like a truck.

  • @WolfmanTheNoob
    @WolfmanTheNoob 5 лет назад

    I like the fact you put the poverty build too, helped me understand how powerful it really is

  • @LesEnfants1972
    @LesEnfants1972 5 лет назад +128

    Please do an extreme Behemoth solo run with this build to verify the legitimacy of your claim that this thing is stupidly OP.

    • @TTVtsrgame
      @TTVtsrgame 5 лет назад +13

      LesEnfants1972 have you tried behe with mr gear ? You basically just walk over him

    • @MEGABUMSTENCH
      @MEGABUMSTENCH 5 лет назад +14

      the only thing dangerous about extremoth nowadays is people missing the timing for ecliptic meteor

    • @genericname1622
      @genericname1622 5 лет назад +6

      Got partied with 3 randoms all using loyal thunder. We got the extremoth down in little over 10+ minutes. Imagine if there are four.

  • @lilithlissandra8047
    @lilithlissandra8047 5 лет назад +3

    As a Guard 5 Lance main, can confirm there are plenty of attacks that still chip. Always the ones with long wind-ups like Teo Nova or Shara Cannon or whatever. Zinogre himself has a LOT of chip on a few of his attacks, particularly the jump attack that can launch him across zones. Can't wait to pick up Glutton 2.0 so I can play "Lance but better" again lol

  • @onimateria
    @onimateria 5 лет назад +6

    The "I'm pretty tired and I want to do relaxing hunts quickly" build. I'm def making one for sure. (Also spread jewel is a myth!)

    • @requiemjigo7753
      @requiemjigo7753 5 лет назад +4

      I have 18 of those. Its the one r8 gem that i have too many of

    • @koisj8310
      @koisj8310 5 лет назад

      Agreed
      900 hours not a single spread jewel
      but i got 3 attack jewels n fucking 8 pierce jewels

    • @craigyoung2261
      @craigyoung2261 5 лет назад

      I'm convinced that once you pop your first rare jewel it lowers the rng to get more. I got about 20 weakness exploit and earplugs and my pal who has played more than me has zero of either. He has spread jewels and free elements and I gots nada I'm close to a thousand hours in.

    • @koisj8310
      @koisj8310 5 лет назад

      update: rajang investigations gave me 2 spread jewels

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 5 лет назад

      In my quest to obtain a Marathon Jewel, i ended up getting 2 Shield Jewels, several Critical Jewels, 2 Spread Jewels, 2 Bow Charge Jewels, a Dragonseal Jewel, an Awakening Jewel, and...no Marathon Jewel.

  • @SaltymanGaming
    @SaltymanGaming 5 лет назад +1

    You can actually roll or reload into Offensive Guard. You can even activate Evasion Mantle and Offensive Guard off one attack and you can get Release/Offensive Guard decos (the only reason I started running it). Health Boost 3 is complete overkill when you have an invincible shield.
    We could also mix in 2 pieces of Blackveil Vaal set for Peak Perfomance 3 and Super Recovery.. You don't heal super fast but could make up for any potential chip damage while maintaining Peak uptime. They have pretty good slots as well.
    Also, those next level mindgames by Black Diablos.. What a well designed fight.

    • @369darkness
      @369darkness 5 лет назад

      Or you could activate your slinger ammo then cancel it when the monster is about to hit you.

    • @SaltymanGaming
      @SaltymanGaming 5 лет назад

      @@369darkness Ohhh that's a good point. It didn't really cost me anything so I've had it equipped for a while, it actually goes off fairly often even when I'm not trying.
      Could be worth looking into as a bonus lvl 4 Deco skill. I'm using Super Recovery and Peak Perfomance 3 but I'm one level 2 slot away from having all the best skills.. Blackveil Vaal helm and belt are so close to being optimal. Unless I'm missing something, but I have to sacrifice one level or critical boost or guard up to make my set work..
      You really don't even need Guard or Guard Up against some enemies if you have multiple shield mods, but then sometimes I run into something you do need them against and it's very bad. I usually ditch the Critical Boost augment just in case.. I'll take like 4.5% less DPS for Super Recovery. It really sucks when you have to sheathe heavy bow gun..

    • @369darkness
      @369darkness 5 лет назад

      @@SaltymanGaming yea same, since i had it with a release jewel combination i decided to see how to trigger it just in case and that method seemed to work best for me

  • @lachlan4534
    @lachlan4534 5 лет назад +24

    As a HBG main I'm so excited for this :3 I just updated my guard set to have divine blessing 5 so now im at:
    Critical Eye +7
    Guard +5
    Weakness Exploit +3
    Critical Boost +3
    Free Element/Ammo up +3
    Health Boost +3
    Spread/Power Shots +2
    Divine Blessing +5
    Guard Up
    Basically my old set but minus the fortify for divine blessing 5. Not that it matters cause you're guarding but the fact that i can have that in there as well its amazing for if get clipped or mess up a reload. Keen to see what you guys have and if you have any more dps orientated guard gun sets :D

    • @SubOrYoureGay
      @SubOrYoureGay 5 лет назад +3

      What armor do you use 😳

    • @lachlan4534
      @lachlan4534 5 лет назад +5

      @@SubOrYoureGay
      Golden Lunehelm B+
      Kirin Jacket a+
      Artian Vambraces B+
      Golden Lunecoil B+
      Garuga Greaves B+
      Ironside Charm V
      The most 2 important new decorations are the critical boost/vitality jewel and the release/protection jewel. Aside from that it's 2 other crit boost jewels, 2 spread jewels, a shield jewel, 3 Tenderizer Jewels and the experter +2 Jewel. Mantle decorations are up to you but I'll always put slugger 2 in my impact mantle and evade extender in my glider mantle.

    • @iemptyyclipz_1299
      @iemptyyclipz_1299 5 лет назад +2

      Lachie - 004 I use the same build but the arms . I use Kaiser Arms B and have everything u mentioned in my build . Was able to add lvl 2 offensive guard .

    • @SubOrYoureGay
      @SubOrYoureGay 5 лет назад +1

      Lachie - 004 thanks

    • @lachlan4534
      @lachlan4534 5 лет назад

      @@iemptyyclipz_1299 really? I'll give it a look to see if I can as well :3

  • @m.slayer6058
    @m.slayer6058 5 лет назад +8

    I hereby declare this build an honorary charge blade build.

  • @MrTsangSTS
    @MrTsangSTS 5 лет назад +55

    after i went with zinogre HBG, i got sooooo lazy I couldnt play GS and LS ever again

    • @grislord
      @grislord 5 лет назад +21

      The problem is,that it's not worth the hassle to do all this combos and stuff with other weapons,while you can just hide behind this beast and do MORE damage haha.

    • @SnakeTheBoss13
      @SnakeTheBoss13 5 лет назад +9

      and if you are a fan of shooters, being able to have a gun build that is actually on par with your best melee builds(if not even better) is pretty godamn fun

    • @renthevillain1885
      @renthevillain1885 5 лет назад +11

      Its fun cause im a LS main an this was my first ever mh HBG i ever used. I made it cause i love zin and it looked cool but little did i know i had a anti rathalos machine in my hands

    • @aselhahn8589
      @aselhahn8589 5 лет назад +7

      ​@@renthevillain1885 I think LS is a bit weak in iceborne. I was sad when i made my first LS build and it was only a little bit stronger, than my kjarr LS and there was no health augment. Now im in endgame, but LS feels like shit.

    • @hungry8087
      @hungry8087 5 лет назад +2

      Love the bowgun. Quick farms and easy to carry my friends with lol

  • @bobdabanana
    @bobdabanana 5 лет назад +5

    Me: uses a cluster sticky build because explosions. This bowgun: sad zinogre noisee

  • @mephisto8644
    @mephisto8644 5 лет назад +22

    I really loved the part that have no decorations set
    Since i came from pc to ps4 i dont have decorations i wish u add this part always in all builds 😍

    • @Darkflo23
      @Darkflo23 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, a poverty version of each builds would be nice, I personaly played World on ps4 so I have a lot of Decos, but I don't really have the time to farm except on weekends, so a easy build to make is really nice to see.

    • @smklvr69
      @smklvr69 5 лет назад

      Kind of sucks, but honestly ps4 has it the best and is the way to go, with that save modifier and you can even take your PC save and transfer it to ps4. Xbox don't have anything lmao

    • @Darkflo23
      @Darkflo23 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, at least until it release on PC, PS4 is the way to go, kinda suck that our brothers hunters on Xbox don't get some events themed to Gears or Halo, but seeing the absolute disaster the Xbox one was in Japan , I can't really blame Capcom.

  • @atalk143
    @atalk143 3 года назад +1

    These builds and commentary are still valid as of 04/27/21 - There are better HBGs now but they just make this OP build even more OP. The cost of entry is extremely low as everything here can be mindlessly solo'ed. One big note, the honeyhunter buildcard in the video is not showing the WEX+ skill. However, it is being calculated in the the Effective Raw number. I know this is an old video but huge kudos to JinJinx/Tuna for doing what you do!

  • @rjbeverly9745
    @rjbeverly9745 5 лет назад +10

    "Unless your going for speedruns weapon balance doesn't really matter just pick the weapon you like the best or have the most fun with"

  • @ShupperDupper
    @ShupperDupper 5 лет назад +2

    Hell, before you can even upgrade the Zin HBG all the way it's still ridiculous. Ridiculously fun, cleared almost all the arena optionals with chain wall slams, impact mantle, wall slam, capture, didn't even need the shield but it made it extra comfy.

    • @jonatassa6258
      @jonatassa6258 5 лет назад

      In fact, the Zin HBG is ridiculous, ridiculous broken.

  • @metalxempress
    @metalxempress 5 лет назад +5

    i wanna cry.. after all these year i still did not get Guard up.

  • @hunyadacrazy
    @hunyadacrazy 5 лет назад

    I like the chopin you got going in the backround

  • @quinaIMF
    @quinaIMF 5 лет назад +6

    HBG main since Glutton.
    Ditch it for hammer in Master Rank
    Back to HBG since Zinogre
    OP life style.

    • @grimmixide
      @grimmixide 3 месяца назад

      What is glutton? Is it a weapon from previous monster hunter games?

  • @kabten
    @kabten 5 лет назад

    thank you bro this build is fantastic

  • @JaxonBurn
    @JaxonBurn 5 лет назад +4

    Could we get an updated build for this? I imagine it changed after safi gear. For instance, I see people going for the 3 piece nargacuga bonus because they can take 1 point of it on the weapon. Is that more optimal than the builds in this vid? Cheers

  • @nunog1913
    @nunog1913 5 лет назад +1

    Hey guys, I wanted to thank you for all your work...it definitely takes a lot of work from figuring out builds out of my limited gaming time

  • @MrNamenamenamename
    @MrNamenamenamename 5 лет назад +36

    But like why would I wait for the premiere when I can just go to the discord and ask tony for advice anyway

  • @Vanq17
    @Vanq17 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for the Poverty Build!

  • @prilodito2364
    @prilodito2364 5 лет назад +3

    me after learning tatsumy HBG build : im some what of a speed runner my self

  • @darth-umbrex
    @darth-umbrex 5 лет назад

    Been looking for a hbg to play. thank you

  • @stevoyah
    @stevoyah 5 лет назад +4

    i LOVE this gun so much. ITS stupid good.

  • @PlagueKnightZA
    @PlagueKnightZA 5 лет назад

    Really enjoyed this video. Not sure if it's because of the premiere or what but it was just really good🙏

  • @mrbmo9375
    @mrbmo9375 5 лет назад +4

    It would be cool if instead of dmg nerfs heavy bowgun got a new learning curve like some kind of over heat or jam mechanic (not rng)

    • @henri2140
      @henri2140 5 лет назад +6

      @@Ensanguine. yup, making the other ammo more worthwile would be the way to go, its not like its old slicing/clusters, you need to stay close, aim properly and you give up quite a bit of damage to get the safety of the shield.

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune 5 лет назад +5

      @@Ensanguine. yes let's take the currently most overpowered weapon and buff it......... what.

  • @ken7432
    @ken7432 4 года назад +1

    Ironside Charm V doesn't require you to get MR100+ material. It takes 2 research commission tickets +, Tempered Radoban material in Guiding lands, Spirit vein shard, and Phantomcore ore.

  • @faelock12
    @faelock12 5 лет назад +4

    And that’s why I’m sticking with my greatsword
    Don’t want to make this and stop using my baby

  • @smklvr69
    @smklvr69 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you guys for the introduction of poverty builds, looking forward to more like it for people who can't play all the time. But sadly by the time that I get the mats required for even the poverty set, this gun will be nerfed because of the unbalance.

  • @ghostmode12
    @ghostmode12 5 лет назад +9

    Loyal Thunder: "ur mains cant even!!!"

  • @Josearnaldomanuel2
    @Josearnaldomanuel2 5 лет назад

    I knew it. I never watched new HBG Iceborne builds but I gravitated to the full guard Zinogre spread build. It's good.

  • @Raxyz_0
    @Raxyz_0 5 лет назад +9

    You know, I don't think that the gun itself is overtuned, it's a problem with how Iceborne was balanced... Every monster has no recovery frames after attacks now, defensive options are easily THE most valuable skill any weapon can offer you (from a comfy perspective, not speedrun). For average joes like myself, I saw no reason to use anything other than Lance, CB and HBG on my way to MR70, anything other weapons could do, it wasn't as safe and as effective as these weapons. If the monster flies or is constantly zooming around (or Barioth which does both) then ONLY the HBG can deal with them as they keep pumping damage at a distance where melee weapons need constant relocation with a Rocksteady to cause damage. Ranged is extremely favored in Iceborne, not just because of the damage, but because the way the monsters and CC was balanced.

  • @ShinGodzilla1011
    @ShinGodzilla1011 5 лет назад

    The amount of videos coming out for this weapon is insane I guess my time of being the only person using this weapon in multiplayer is gonna change

  • @hakim6933
    @hakim6933 5 лет назад +5

    I am missing that guard up deco.....damn it

    • @laynerowland1497
      @laynerowland1497 5 лет назад

      And it's rare as dick too... i don't have it either

  • @primedking
    @primedking 5 лет назад

    I wanted this gun just because the way it looked i didn’t know it was this powerful thank you for this info

  • @homemaderamen
    @homemaderamen 5 лет назад +13

    My main “melee” weapon is guns...

    • @baazi2554
      @baazi2554 5 лет назад +2

      So anyways, he's been blasting

  • @SpikeShadowhunter
    @SpikeShadowhunter 5 лет назад

    A tip for everyone.
    Even tho Offensive Guard is not that easy to activate on HBG you can slot it into mantles to have even more damage. With some practice you will learn how to preventive fire and quick scope to activate it almost every time and is a large damage boost
    Use the glider mantle with 2 LV 4 slots for 180 seconds and 120 cooldown and it is basically always up
    I personally use rocksteady with 2x tool specialist and glider with 2x offensive guard + anything
    You can even drop rocksteady and get a mantle with like 210 seconds cooldown to get almost 100% uptime on the extra skills
    For example: elemental mantles have 180 sec duration and 210 second cooldown. Thant means you will have 360 seconds uptime and 30 seconds downtime for offensive guard +2 extra skills of LV 4 slots
    This is not accounting for tool specialist in the build because in that case you can realistically reach 100% uptime.

  • @alexivan3764
    @alexivan3764 5 лет назад +5

    Finally, a poverty build. I cannot thank you enough for that! Gosh i rly need to farm decos :/

  • @erikv4181
    @erikv4181 5 лет назад

    Can't wait to see the video on Stygian Zinogre because all I know is that it's got the same slots and higher raw with Spread 3

  • @ZeroRulz0
    @ZeroRulz0 5 лет назад +7

    Well i guess i just found my guilding lands farming build lmfao

  • @thomast.4966
    @thomast.4966 5 лет назад +2

    I've been using Tatsuffy's build for a few weeks now. It's ridiculous, please don't nerf this and let us be happy, Capcom.

    • @lachlan4534
      @lachlan4534 5 лет назад +1

      Imo everyone should update it adn drop fortify for divine blessing 5

  • @InsanelyMclean
    @InsanelyMclean 5 лет назад +5

    I whipped this set together, threw on Mightning 1 (still missing that Skymerald) and hunted a Zinogre in 11 minutes with no carts and only 2 max pots used, despite never having used HBG before in any MH game.
    This thing is pretty busted.

  • @Mightykeef
    @Mightykeef Год назад

    So is this gun better than Vor gun from Fatalis?

  • @Henrirocha11
    @Henrirocha11 5 лет назад +22

    Hey can the next build video be on hh? there is almost nothing online and i think the bone hh might be the best horn (if you don't whant to use master touch) but i can't find anyone to confirm it

    • @mekudu-man3804
      @mekudu-man3804 5 лет назад +2

      TDS did a speedrun with one - check out their channel to find out more

    • @Henrirocha11
      @Henrirocha11 5 лет назад +1

      @@mekudu-man3804 i sow it but i realy don't like the acidc glav weapons sharpness só i wanted something diferent

    • @mekudu-man3804
      @mekudu-man3804 5 лет назад +1

      @@Henrirocha11 why not use Teos Masters Touch + Weakness exploit with tenderized parts + affinity augments/crit eye? I also know that these builds are boring as hell (all well too similar), but maybe you can come up with something good on your own that fits your playstyle 🤗. Btw. do I main IG, bow and HAMMER! and I consider checking out some SA and DB builds. If you hunt via PS4, consider hitting me up - my ID is tigrexfanboy69 !-)

    • @Henrirocha11
      @Henrirocha11 5 лет назад

      @@mekudu-man3804 yeah i know this build and im not a big fan at least on hh the tenderizer os too slow and without It i can't crit reliably. And yeah i will send you a request maybe we can Hunt together some time

    • @JesahsuKuristoh
      @JesahsuKuristoh 5 лет назад +1

      I know exactly how you feel, acidic glavenus seems like the only competent HH with a few others but I feel like all the good HH have horrible sharpness or if they do have good sharpness the songs mostly sucks...
      As much as I like the new attack hitting blue sharpness because I'm not using the 'mandatory' master touch from teostra is just the worst... is either that or max the shit out of Handicraft in every build...

  • @vontefrom6002
    @vontefrom6002 5 лет назад +1

    You can offensive guard if you toggle your slinger ammo , draw the weapon or roll the last two are iffy like you said but the singer toggle can be very useful. Hopes this helps someone

  • @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088
    @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088 5 лет назад +2

    Hey, don’t get capcom to nerf my gun now. It’s good to use when a monster gets u mad

  • @blackhawk15897
    @blackhawk15897 5 лет назад

    Just so we're clear, there is plenty of room for an intermediate stage between the poverty build and comfy build in case you do have a lot of decos but are missing one or two critically necessary ones like the Shield Jewel.
    For instance, if you happen to have two spread jewels, you could drop the Lavasioth grieves for the Yian Garuga grieves B+, switch out the alpha armors for their beta counterparts, and be left with much better deco slottage for things like crit eye, crit boost, Free Element/Ammo Up, vitality, etc.

  • @SirHusky654
    @SirHusky654 5 лет назад +3

    I feel like this is kinda overhyped. Maybe I'm just bad with HBG, but I find it difficult to tenderize wounds consistently because the CC animation for HBG takes like 5 years. I hunt MUCH more efficiently with Switch Axe.

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 5 лет назад +1

      The goal is to NOT inflict wounds, but just shoot with 70% crit rate which is still plenty high enough. The build is a "turn your brain off" setup.

    • @handsomejack672
      @handsomejack672 5 лет назад

      Even without tenderizing monster part, this gun hits like a double trucks

  • @KevShaw808
    @KevShaw808 5 лет назад

    Nice! Can't wait to try this out!

  • @blazekings
    @blazekings 5 лет назад +6

    Again with the infamous release jewel... rip

  • @jacksefo
    @jacksefo 5 лет назад

    I love you guys, the amount of work and calculations behind your channel is almost null compared to the love and fun you put in every content you make, and it shows big time.
    Love from Italy ♥️👌🏼

  • @tomekl3476
    @tomekl3476 5 лет назад +34

    Me: looks at the required gems
    Also me: Can i do ANY meta build without tons of gems really?

    • @O_RLY
      @O_RLY 5 лет назад +7

      It's only a goal to strive towards. Just use what you have until you get them. If you had every gem, you would have no reason to play.

    • @SS2LP
      @SS2LP 5 лет назад

      Tomek L What are you missing? Aside from the spread and that one crit/health boost deco none of those are especially rare

    • @SexyMonsterLover
      @SexyMonsterLover 5 лет назад

      @@NeoPhyro And hope for the deco events.

    • @zangatsubankai
      @zangatsubankai 5 лет назад

      There's always the poverty build. Just slot in what you can.

    • @chexmixkitty
      @chexmixkitty 5 лет назад +2

      @@zangatsubankai all my builds are poverty builds.

  • @deadcell9900
    @deadcell9900 5 лет назад +3

    Time to go cheese all my mr tempered kirin quests!

  • @handsomejack672
    @handsomejack672 5 лет назад +3

    Pc player here. This is my "go to" build when i hit Grinding land.

    • @cleander3645
      @cleander3645 5 лет назад

      is it still as good on pc?

    • @blujay1294
      @blujay1294 5 лет назад

      @@cleander3645 Pc is essentially just the console but three months behind, so yes. It is as strong on pc now, as it was then on console. I also don't think they changed anything, but I could be wrong.

    • @dakotalovespie
      @dakotalovespie 5 лет назад

      @@blujay1294 Pretty sure any nerfs or buffs are already applied on PC

  • @UltravioletNomad
    @UltravioletNomad 5 лет назад

    That bit about offensive guard reminds me of old school evade Lance's, tactically looking away from a monster to avoid damage and hit back big.

  • @ryanwhitcher7933
    @ryanwhitcher7933 5 лет назад +4

    Damn, I've been using this build for about a week now. Now its gonna be a meta build ;-;

  • @TheFearsomeRat
    @TheFearsomeRat 5 лет назад

    Alternate option (If your like me and have no luck with Zinogre's drops), is the Great Jagras HBG it also gets Wyvern Heart, and it's been what I've been using when I use HBG due to lack of Zinogre Deathly Shockers and I don't have a overly good Kulve HBG, not to mention you can Build the Great Jagras one and upgrade it to full, pretty much on starting Master Rank, it might not be as good but it's something.

  • @tylertheinborncreator2796
    @tylertheinborncreator2796 5 лет назад +3

    That moment when your favorite hbg is the best one for dps 😊

    • @lolimmune
      @lolimmune 5 лет назад +1

      That moment when your favorite weapon is the boring overpowered one

    • @tylertheinborncreator2796
      @tylertheinborncreator2796 5 лет назад

      @@lolimmune i mean its better than it being hot grabage

  • @NeoKurow
    @NeoKurow 4 года назад +2

    I'm so bad at this game and after 710 hours I can finally good damage. Thanks guys.

  • @tho_tho
    @tho_tho 5 лет назад +7

    Why do premiere for this?:/ Everyone can tell how the build goes already since base World used to have a comfy guard HBG build as well for easy cheese when it first was out... Only now it sacrifices damage skills for Guard 5 and Guard Up and uses Offensive Guard to make up for the damage difference because it's a % boost so it's pretty darn strong!

    • @RiskOfBaer
      @RiskOfBaer 5 лет назад +1

      Making a premiere has nothing to do with the content of the video. Pretty sure they're experimenting with the format to see if it benefits their channel.

    • @tho_tho
      @tho_tho 5 лет назад

      @@RiskOfBaer That may be the case, but when someone does premiere it gives you an alert at first since that's when it's considered the video is out, then people stop caring and forget about the video when it's actually out since they don't get notified again.

  • @nialltipton7754
    @nialltipton7754 5 лет назад

    Shara's beam attacks can fuck you up pretty good with the insane stamina drain and chip damage you receive when blocking using this build.

  • @taliomerelli6298
    @taliomerelli6298 5 лет назад +10

    So when are you gonna update this with the safi guns
    Ready for loyal thunder 2.0

    • @Deep9r
      @Deep9r 5 лет назад

      Not Loyal Thunder 2.0
      Glutton 3.0 Safi's Burstcannon 😬😂

  • @akad30
    @akad30 4 года назад

    So happy I came across this. I've been using this gun for The Greatest Jagrus quest. Going to to try this with monsters now hahahaha

  • @davidd8721
    @davidd8721 5 лет назад +5

    Well, guess I have something to build today. I’ve been exclusively melee since MHW. Until now...

  • @assassinshock
    @assassinshock 5 лет назад +1

    > sees this build
    > sees a fuckton of Crit Boost, Spread, Shield, and Release gems
    > realizes that despite having literal hundreds of hours in this game, I have none of these

  • @phiavir5594
    @phiavir5594 5 лет назад +5

    I think people are overreacting simply because it's a ranged weapon that requires no 'effort'. I think we've been here before with slicing.
    In truth, this isn't remotely the fastest way to kill something. Is it comfy? Hell yeah, but it's no more comfy than those divine blessing builds stacked with fortify. Also, it gets countered as hard as lance with all the trash bullshit that was added to iceborne via aoe tick damage. Go ahead and try this setup against Jho or lunastra.
    Imo the guard thing is fine, but they should definitely take away the scope ability on spread.. that shit is dumb af

    • @ember-evergarden
      @ember-evergarden 5 лет назад +1

      Good thing Jho and Lunatra gear are absolute trash and not meta at all except for Jho LBG for RPS2, which is only for Shara Tenderplate farming :^)

  • @TheTuneAce
    @TheTuneAce 5 лет назад

    I was about to ask about the set builder. Then you mentioned it at the end. Naisu

  • @Narakiomal
    @Narakiomal 5 лет назад +6

    Zinogre HBG or as I like to call it "Glutton 2: ELectric Boogaloo"

  • @Scorptice
    @Scorptice 5 лет назад

    Good to know that I can use two of the tanky boi peaces to compensate for my disgusting unluck regarding guard up jewels

  • @chucheeness7817
    @chucheeness7817 5 лет назад +5

    Ew, 2x spread deco. -_-
    Welp. That's another gun/ammo that's gonna make pc users drool and will probably be nerfed before it hits pc release.

    • @thomast.4966
      @thomast.4966 5 лет назад

      For some reason I have 10 spread decos, last time I checked. Still NO FORCESHOT wtf.

    • @_syzygy_
      @_syzygy_ 5 лет назад +2

      Huh, i didnt know spread decos were rare, as a CB main ive got a bunch of them, but guess which was the very last deco i got at around 850 hours in? Thats right, Guard up :'). The desire sensor man, messes all of us up.

  • @adamhawks3460
    @adamhawks3460 5 лет назад +1

    Been using this build in the guiding lands for the past 2 days and FYI....
    It’s so godly. Teostra Eruption/nuke attack tickles you, and Rajang can’t do ANYTHING to you. It’s absolute invincibility with god Damage.
    And of course, Impact Mantle+ with slugger built in just makes any fight a joke.
    Rip Tempered Velkhana, nothing chips you at all