FOREX HEDGING - Make Money By LOSING.
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2022
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YES! It’s so good to see someone with such influence finally talking about hedge trading!! I have been saying this sh*t for years, losses will always be part of this game but you have to work out a way to psychologically stay in the zone and hedging is a FANTASTIC way to do so! Guess what, when you have hedges and drawdown covered, you don’t give a sh*t about losses. Love the video Nick! 👊🏻
When you have hedges, drawdown, and scaling into positions and managing them - then you don't give a shit about losses because they literally DON'T happen 99% of the time! Lmaoooooo, cheers bro! We keep going!
@@NickShawnFXwhat you trying to tell now? So hedging might not work?
@@jayashan1586no one is a 100% winner! Not even when you hedge.
Hedging in this sense is always adding bigger position or adding still same lests say 1000$? I am novice and doesnt the trade close eachother out when you hedge?
@@whynow4306he's talking about same lot sizes, not adding bigger positions but the same. your second question is depending on your broker (trading platform). i use bybit and they allow a sell and buy position at the same time. Good luck and dont give up!!
edit : bybit is only for crypto.
Amazing perspective and will definitely incorporate it in my trading, thank you Nick !
You are a legend mate! Your strategy is simple and works! Thanks mate.
I'm getting ready to buy one of your courses this week. Idk what it is but the way you explain and teach makes waaay more sense to me than other videos out there that are waaay to damn confusing. Thanks brother 🙏🏽 for taking the time to teach 💯💯. I'm sick and tired and really want to crack the trading code for myself! I think people give up way to soon and end up not being patient with the the learning process
Yess!! I thought I was the only one I did this as I couldn’t find any good relevant videos on this thank you for making this
No prob bro, and MORE to come!
what a coencidence, I've been thinking about this recently. Love your work, Nick! 👊
Awesome! And thanks!
u got my respect. thanks sir!
Great video Nick!
this is a skill that you can only really develop through experience, especially if SL keeps draining your account. this video is very good. thanks a lot.
Hedge “hogging “ lol. Love it! I was calling it ‘insurance’, Yep, I’m the newby. Has certainly helped turn around my profitability. Thanks Nick.
Hahahah yes, a good way to look at it. Np man
The simplicity to profitability amazes me and giving it away😲 Thanks much appreciated ❗️
Thx for taking the time to teach us Nick Shawn.
Of course!
Awesome information & description on hedging. I picked it up on one of your previous videos & been applying it when needed. This was a great explanation on the topic. Great video. Thanks...Sir Nick
Yessir!
Thanks for the free knowledge brother!
yes brother bear no problem
This is Art nick ♥
This is really great content. Cheers Nick.
Glad you enjoy, cheers man!
Great info Nick, different way of thinking.
Yup, no prob!
thanks for you videos Nick
You are brilliant!
Great content! 😅
Amazing video. Thank you brother 🔥📈
Yup! Cheers man
this is great
High level stuff. Very interesting!!
Various approaches, all unique and interesting in their own way.
Finally i got a real hedging lesson … waoo man…
i really like this idea and ive thought about doing something like this but always felt like it was a "wrong" form of trading since i always hear people saying its dumb to be in more than 1 trade per pair/ or stack trades etc. but im glad you made this video it gives me a lot of confidence Thank you
no prob!
i smacked the like button brother
Thanks for smacking it bro. It likes it rough.
Create ebook with all scenarios and give it to the people. This is a real! Thanks
This video is gold. 🎯 🔥
cheers bro!
I do this form of trading on equity index futures (es, nq, rty), It definitely opened my eyes to a better way to trade !
Great!
Partly is Martingale strategy (double your lotsize in other direction), people just need to watch out because is not allowed on most prop firms, also you need to have a very good and strong psychology to handle this, looks like you master it Nick, nice work.
correct.
I like the way you think Amigo
Thanks, for the video, how do you get around the swaps? If the market is ranging you can end up losing on those negative swaps
The only one who actually answered my fucking curiosity and confusion
I am caught up in short on H1 GBPNZD. It just pushed past my zone. I have buystop, selllimit, and tp in place for hedge. I am going to bed with no SL. I have never done this before and I have to say that win or lose I feel liberated with saying that it doesnt matter. I have accepted the outcome good or bad. Its random and probability blah blah blah.
Bro you look better each day keep working 👌👌
Thanks bro! Workin' hard
@@NickShawnFX i see bro i see keep goinn
holy shit this is beautiful nick
Yo I know bro, thanks!
This way of reasoning is correct if you have high volume of equity and same time you play with small lots which does not jeopardise your total balance. So when you are capable to wait long period of time. NOT BED, BOT NOT GENIOUS.
Love ds video awesome
Thanks!
That means you can take any trade setups / ideas, just make sure you are in the market to make money.
Great Video Sir , but i am wondering , can we go to the lower and spot the entries for greater risk to rewards
Hello Nick - have you ever considered entering a buy and sell at same time from consolidation - once price moved to 4H or daily support for example - you wait for rejection and shift in opposite direction confirmed on 4H TF as it holds more wait - then close the sell position on profit - take a buy and then close at BE at 50% pullback - same as when you taught here in this vid - but entering sell and buy at consolidation (50% of range consolidation) essentially zerowed out BE until price moves in iether direction no matter the direction ?
I understand tha that is more or less the point.
That was was wisely said...
thanks my hairless friend.,,loveyou
you the man Gio
When I type in “hedge trading” in RUclips, your videos should be at the top of the list. What’s up with that algorithm?
Thanks again Nick for freeing me from the psychological hell of dealing with setting stop losses and getting stopped out. Actually, I had gotten used to dealing with stops mentally a long time ago, but the trading that I'm doing now is liberating and fun compared to that crap I was doing before.
thx
Hey nick I was curious what broker do you use to hedge because most brokers in the U.S. don’t allow hedging?
I did hit the like button
Thanks Martin
@@NickShawnFX Very refreshing take on hedging. I was hedging like how you said "at 50 or a 100 pips negative wherever" without considering support and resistance areas. It makes a LOT of sense hedging at S and R areas!
@@loopoldyt yeah that’s one of the most important things, to exit hedges and then add to the original positions at locations where price is likely to bounce. Wait for the S/R levels!
You're doing great but could you use a white background because it's hard to see with the black background.
I’m applying for funding this week nick im 15yrs old been watching since I was 13 let’s get it I’ll update u when not if I pass 🐐
I appreciate u nick
Tryna live that trader trader 😏
keep at it man.
How did you get on?
id like to learn more from you do you have any program.
hey bro have you ever tried yo hegde in profit some pos or does it have not any sense at all lol?
I independently came up with a similar (almost the same) strategy and I was able to bring a demo account to 50% profit. But it's tough since I'm in the US and my broker is Oanda. So I can only hedge using two accounts, and the difficult part is determining where the price will move next.
Try a broker like coinexx, hugosway, hankotrade. don't have to deal with the restrictions, plus way smaller commissions than getting ripped a new one by oanda
Hi Nick, can you explain more about how your account can be blown using hedging? If hedging has you over exposed, why wouldn't you just close out all your open trades and take a small loss? Thanks bro
yes, i covered this in the video i just released today. it is very nuanced.
Great video Nick - So hedging is possible with stop losses too right? Or don't brokers allow it? I guess I'll test it... But say I go long in a pair and risk 0.5% as my stop loss and target 2% as profit...and the price goes up in my favour but then reverses back down towards my SL... Hedging, I place a pending order short just under my original SL which will be hit and again place (risk) a 0.5% stop loss and same 2% profit target. So the buy trade is 0.5% down (SL hit)...and the price does keep moving down to hit take profit at 2%... So net profit of 1.5%...even though I was originally wrong! Right?
thats not a hedge thats just placing another order and it defeats the point of hedging
Which timeframe do you prefer Nick
I tried this for the first time today and blew the account. I guess today was one of those days where it was not going to turn around
What is the minimum account size you need for this strategy? In case you are wrong and need to keep hedging from resistance/support level to resistance/support level. The Covid plunge in 2020 for the S&P 500 was straight down from February and didn't bounce back up to that level until June 2020. The drop was 2950 points. How does your strategy work for extreme cases as this? Thank you, I am really enjoying this new way of viewing the market.
as far as i know, he **does not** trade a single account, he trades multiple.
in one of his videos he said that he likes to start with a $3k account shake it to $15k within 1-2 weeks and then rinse and repeat.
and yes he **does** blow up his accounts occasionally, but that is why he trades multiple and terminates them once he reaches his goal.
so to answer your question: it probably doesn't, but that's ok.
@@michalbotor You can start and when you reach your goal, withdraw the profits and leave the first capital itself and repeat the process even if all the account is lost. This happens maybe once every 07 times, so you are still a winner.
@@Daily-trader735 true. that's probably best if one does not mind bad account history. some might be bothered with it and might want to start fresh.
@@michalbotor Personally, this does not concern me. I do not see the benefit of a loss record, because it is one of the basics of the game to receive losses, sometimes I like to look at it
Don’t do it on stocks stocks are made to go up and up and up
Price can bounce at liquidity levels mainly
I tried hedging but because of the spread and already being in a deficit as i open a position, for this to work price really had to move hard both ways to be profitable. Am i wrong here or can i get a tip?
Hey Nick, How many positions do you generally feel comfortable having open at same time?
depends. 2-3 i think is a safe number.
How do I identify (spot) resistance zones on the charts? Is that something that comes with experience only ?
he is a sneaky guy
You can reduce the size of the deal to open a lot of hedging deals, which makes it expand together with the market and make a profit in any direction
@Lessko Brandon close the hedging in the next support or resistance level and open the same position lots with the same direction
This will work except in run away moves where the market keepy going. Then your account goes with it.
correct, that happens to me 10% of the time.
Is this similar to zone recovery hedge trading ?
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thanks palav.
The issue is you always assume price will bounce at another zone, what if it doesn't and your losing position just goes into deeper drawdown
You take a breakout trade if it break thru the zone which would be a counter trade
@@tristan583 Yeah but then you are just in draw down, if you take a buy at support and it breaks through, you take an equal sell, if it continues to drop you are in draw down.
what if the hedge goes negative?
No hedging in the USA. What brokerage firm do you use Nick outside of the country
He uses Coinex I believe
I use Coinexx, Hugosway, and my old accounts with Tradersway. I’m also testing an Australian broker right now. A portfolio of brokers is best if you’re going to use unregulated.
@@NickShawnFX Thanks Bro. I knew that you used Coin X but i was really wondering about your answer to unregulated brokers. Wrong question by me but you somehow gave me my answer. Yeah i get why one would use many brokers outside the country. To bad IC markets don't take US citizens, All i have is Ospreyfx on the radar
I use Hugos way. And it’s a very good broker. Been using it for five years and never had any problem. i’m from the states.
OMG, done this idea but didn't know it's called hedging.
yup!
I fully understand forex but I’m still struggling with been profitable, sometimes it gets frustrating
Makes me think my strategy isn’t working
It’s a matter of experience. Pay attention to the commonalities between your winning trades, and your losing trades.
@@NickShawnFX thank you
I know hedging but in reality its very difficult. May you show a live example haha its easy just talking about what could happen.
Alex, watch the last 30 daily videos I've posted on my channel sharing day to day trades and recaps!
Hi Nick
Hey Ernest
What if when you start hedging youre wrong at the next zone too and go into huge draw downs?
He wont answer, buy his magic course 😅
If you coded an ea to trade zones that you put in place with your strategy, you'd be rich(er)...lol
What's an ea?
But Why i loss in recovery zone?
I love you father
Haha. Sweet.
Make money by losing sounds like perfect strategy for me 🤣
lmao
can i ask why does the market dump so bad like just now around 6 or 7pm friday it dumpd so hard uk time
Think it might have been the US announcing that Russia might be invading Ukraine next week.
@@NickShawnFX ahh yes becz jpy went up in price as it is a safe heaven makes sense
thanks man
What if your wrong about all positions? 🤔
Then you blow the account.
You adjusted your trade fir the favorable outcome. But what if you entered hedging buy and stock went down and never gave you long profit? So now you needlessly entered long while you just needed to stay short and have mire patience. I stopped watching there when you did not analyze this outcome.
Love how this guy never has an "I told you so" or "I knew" way of trading. NOBODY knows what the market is going to do.
Exactly
Yup, no one knows what the hell is gonna happen.
Used this strategy today and lost half my account. Too many what ifs and predictions.
So whenever you lose your whole account gets wiped. So how many times can you flip the account before it is wiped
Correct. It depends. Sometimes I’ve blown the account on the first try. Other times, I’m able to do it 3, 4 times in a row before I take a huge hit.
@@NickShawnFX I think you should make a detailed video on how much percentage we should risk on each position and how much time it takes to get from 3k to 15k. It would be much interesting to watch
@@NickShawnFX I would never advise someone hedging unless you really know what you’re doing. You’re just basically gambling, sometimes the market will wreck you before you even think of hedging. My 2 cents
@@yassinetalbi5884your 2 cent is incorrect Lmao hedging is closer to not gambling than using a stop loss banks hedge funds and institutions use this style of trading 😂 using a stop loss you’re trying to make the market go to your tp with hedging it doesn’t matter what the market does cause you just follow it
I see no practical merit in such type of hedging.
Say you are long and at time T1 you take an exactly opposite sell position. You then hold both positions until time T2 where you liquidate the sell. That is the same as having your first position closed at T1 and then reopened at T2. No matter what the market did between T1 and T2 you will have the same outcome in both cases.
In the first case, however, you have locked a great deal of your capital as margin for both positions thereby possibly missing opportunities in other instruments not to mention the possibility that in case of margin calls (due to other positions you might have) the broker will start closing positions without notice.
The only merit of such "hedging" seems to be purely psychological.
i understand. watch the past videos here on my channel for a month and maybe it will give you more perspective. some of the things you said are not necessarily true in all situations, as a portion of speculation still plays a role. but either way, maybe just use stops if hedging doesn't make logical sense to you, theres many ways to trade profitably!
@@NickShawnFX Thanks for the reply. I ve already watched many of your videos. Your approach surely needs very wide stops ( far beyond two s/r levels away from the entry price) so as to break even by exploiting pullbacks to the entry price when things go wrong.
However, I still insist that this type of hedging serves only a psychological role. I would be very interested to know why you believe hedging is better than closing the position and reopening it when you think the hedge should be stopped. I didnt find an explanation for that in your videos.
I m not against hedging. I am just asking why it is better to hedge rather than close and reopen the position.
@@giorgossiligardos9983 closing the position means taking the loss and you have no guarantee that new one you are about to open is gonna go your way, and then what next?
Isy N. When you hedge the way it is described in the video it is equivalent to taking the loss with the additional drawback that you tie cash in margin. Say you are -50pips in your current position at time T1 and you hedge it so as to lock the loss. Later at time T2 you unhedge the position and then the market moves in your favor by 50pips and you close the position breakeven at time T3. This is exactly the same as closing the position at T1, reopening it at T2 and finally closing it at T3.
Such type of 1:1 hedging is appropriate only for cases when you dont want to close the initial position because you will loose benefits (like voting in stocks for example). In pure trading it doesn't seem to offer any purpose except from psychological support at the cost of tying margin
I'm going to switch from waygu beef to this method of hedging. .
Where do u live? This whole strategy can't be used in the US, they don't allow hedging...
but no news was out
yup
But you didn’t go over that you took profit on the hedge and then the price didn’t return it kept going. That happens too. What do you do in that case? Just blow your account
I’ve tested this on simulation many times and you can only push your luck so many times before you get that instance wheee price just keeps going and then you blow your account . It’s a risky merhid
@@DinaSalehi Can you try this on simulation when price is Consolidating ? Usually Asian Session tends to have low volume and consolidation.
@@omr1248 perhaps when price is just consolidating this works better since price usually isn’t surging during Asian but then you don’t get much movement / opportunities either . I’ve done long simulation sessions (over 1 year timespan in the sim) to test hedging methods over the long term and eventually this always happens (you close the side of hedge in profit thinking price may retrace but it doesn’t it continues)… it eventually will blow the account . It’s not a good long term strategy (since there’s no telling when it will happen)
To bad you don't trade futures
If you are in trouble - double!
I love hedging, I treat my hedges as a stop loss
What I've been doing is placing hedge stop orders where stop loss orders would generally be, then I hedge out losing positions and wait until the next zone, then I will add new positions, close hedges in profit, and scale in for the other side of the trade to take the market back to the breakeven point. And then continuing to manage those! Hahahaha, its a whole science and art, at the same time.
@@NickShawnFX legendary bro 💯 i usually look at the zones and let’s say if I enter a buy at support so would place stops below the zone to sell to the next zone and if that doesn’t work then I would place a buy stop above support and keep doing so until price reaches a zone. I’m up 8% so far
@@ZainHDHQ You can also use sentiment to actually help you.
Nick this is a wag strategy. Look for another strategy to sell
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Hedging seems like a good way to make money, but you have to have a strong mentality to take the Drawdown..