Yes loving this vlog. Christmas jumper is a win! Good man. Also my bed suggestion was your first choice! Win no.2, OK it wont work but I have smug face in overdrive lol 😆
It seems to me that you have answered yourself! A couple of days ago you were getting fed up with having to move everything off the kitchen work surfaces in order to do anything! Shelves on the bedroom port wall (for your dictionaries of the world 🙄🙄😂) seem to be the most viable & sensible decision…… Personally I wouldn’t cut down the step either, just remove the top as you mentioned when extending the bed. Loved the moments when you were thinking out loud, then suddenly into a moment of quietness as a possible different solution came to mind….. …. bless you for meeting so many challenges with dignity & aplomb x
Just had your very first video come up so I watched it. What you have done with the boat is amazing. I would never have seen any future in your boat at that point. I really can't imagine tackling such a big job.
Always look forward to wondering where you will pop up next. Seems the dining area would be another good location for a bed. Take a tip from a camper as to how they do it. Anyway, good job not all the kids come at once. I grew up with a family of 5 kids. I had 2 brothers, then myself, then 2 more brothers. Pandemonium all the time. My poor folks. I’ll bet the kids always look forward to visiting dad. Like a mini vacay for them and the water lapping against the boat sides probably lull them to sleep fast. Keep those improvements coming. I so enjoy that aspect of the vlog. And Richard, good to be hearing the guitar again. PS Liked the sweater.
I would try fastening the steel straps to the "stationary" planks in such a way that the pull out planks are supported (on top) when they are pulled out, preventing the moveable ones from dropping down. you'll have to fasten the stationary ones to the existing frame with screws to add strength. Merry Christmas James!
Advent🔟🛌 Agree with placing a secured Port Rail, for those rails to rest on. Great project. These narrow boat projects brings back memories for me living on boyfriends Narrowboat in Amsterdam (peace ✌️🕊️ era)!🇺🇲
Looks great. Extending the left side shelf can go as far as you want. It covers the pipes and gives you mini storage. Futons ate easy to cut apart and sew. Would work great in the v- berth and 3 of them side ways would make a bed couch with backs. Are you ready to wrap your stove pipe with copper tubing, radiators, and low voltage / gravity run pump system. Lol!
Build a shelf all the way along and section it off so each child has their own little section to keep stuff in few clothes colouring books w.e kids do these days that can be left there ready for when they next come. They will love it, it will help with the feeling like home for them and it will function as the support for the pull out bed. You can store some nice things on top and clear them off when in use.. everybody's happy.
Your solution looks great! Well done. I really felt for you while ripping that last board, wow. Have you considered a ‘rail’ running along the port side, about 5-6cm (2-2 1/2 inches) wide to support the bed when it is pulled all the way out? Almost like a rub rail, if you will. Maybe tie it into the shelf near the bow. Could be made up to be decorative but not stick out any further than the gunwales?
I would definitely go with the shelf idea. Maybe if you lower the crossing edge beam a little and make an edge on the shelf the two edges could lock together when the bed is extended.
You're short of general shelving storage for the children's bits and pieces for example - toys and books, even shoes. A set of shelves would be useful for their things, your books or watch or click etc, loose change - a bedside shelf. The shelves could act as a ladder up to the bows (for the children) and shelves could be as deep as the current step reducing down in depth as you go down the boat. To avoid excess thigh damage have a rounded shelf end! 🤕
Hello mate great blog watched from the beginning of build I built a slate pull out bed similar in my van for fishing I used 2 legs under your slates screwed to a cls but as you don’t want to use the leg option I would us a 2 /2 screwed to the wall opposite that’s ample and will support you plus won’t take up that much room a shelf would stick out to much plus you won’t use the pull out all the time and the metal strips not really needed when you push the slates back over your middle cross beam just sand the edges this stops the slates hitting it and pushes back easy
JAmes, Maybe another "support beam" for the bedframe (stern to bow) to the portside of the center bed support to hold the end weight of the slide out bits, and to keep the ends in line.
My internal translator stutters with "Christmas Jumper Day" even though I know what it means. 😂 I like the idea of the single metal strap on the top at the far end of the bed slats. It should be stiff enough--however, I would install that sooner rather than later, since the wood may warp. You could have a shelf along the port side with posts at the right height to accept the bed extension. That way, the bed extension would slide over the shelf, and you would not have to clear it to extend the bed.
Here’s my idea- Put a hinge on that little table so you can just lift the lid when you need to pull the bed out. Andddd in that you can hide a little L shaped leg to put under the lower part of the bed! Or just put a thin strip on the gunnel like the cross beds have. Doesn’t need to be very big. Could even add a small little hook and eye to hook the top so it doesn’t fall or slip off.
Hi James, how about sandwiching the planks between two lots of 6mm thick ply. One under all the planks and one on the top fixed to the bed frame allowing the extension planks to slide out. Would need hole's in for ventilation, wouldn't need to go all the way up to the starboard side either. Just might be awkward cutting due to you not having power tools.
You could use eyelets under the gunnels & heavy duty rope ratchets, no different to hanging bunks in a sub,, then you can clip pull to correct height done, nice clean install no extra building & very much invisible when not in use.
I have a cross bed with a piece of ply which sits on batons om the bed and the wall. Ply sits under mattres when not in use. Bed up in a minute and down in a minute. Matress 2/3 .. 1/3.
Hi James your step you have why not extend the length of the bed either put extension on the top of it or bit a strip of wood along the length of shelve/ cupboard and lay extension on the strip of wood for long term as a extension bed hope can understand what I mean
Hi James - time strapped so not fully up to your thinking BUT instead of having Shelf or legs to support the bed from underneath how about something coming down from under the gunwale ie rope or straps? - Have a nice sleep
Hi James merry Christmas I’ve done a similar thing in my campervan and found fixing legs to the front price of timber sorted out the support issue. Try checking out “sliding bed designs on RUclips for good info. Boat is looking good btw. Iam looking to do the same next year to retire on the canal..
Instead of a leg could you have a support bar? we use caravan cargo bars to hold stuff from moving when travelling in our camper, they are used on the horizontal don’t know if they could be used vertically like a jack would support? They are pretty substantial bars and store away in a small space It’s looking great 😀
You could use the methode by witch you hang cubbords, with two planks that grip one other by an angle ed cut lenghwise. One on the bed extention bit and the other on the wall side. So you have no Shelfs, just a decorative plank you can hang other stuf from.
I'm really not very good at mechanical things but how about doing a full piece of ply over the main bed, fixed to the non moving woods, then the others would be held from tipping up (though would still need support over on the wall when extended). If you use metal strips on the moving woods, will the strips not gradually scuff up the underside of the mattress? Another thought would be to lose that centre long wood that seems to be the cause of problems and have all supports width ways? Though I guess that's pretty much a re engineer.
James why not just use two 2"x 2" legs and attach a piece of ply to the top of each leg like a bird table you can just place them under the pull out part and to keep them in place drill holes through the top and use a wing nut bolt to keep them in place with the wing nut at the bottom of course....simple easy and just a case of tightening a wing nut.
The yellow foam looks way past its best 😞, why not get 100mm thick /medium density foam cut to fit and then 30mm memory foam, spray glue them to each other and then you will have even more sleeping space up top near the hatch. You could also get the same foam to use as an extension to your mattress for the pull out frame. Then use the foam extension as a back cushion for the diner area when the bed is pushed back. I bought some of the cut to fit foam with memory foam spray glued on top and it is so warm and comfy I think it only cost £50 (6ft by 5ft ish)
Put one metal slat on the end of the movable slats. Put one metal strap on the fixed slats, approx. at the middle, but far enough along to allow full slide out of your slats. That way it will hold down the moving slats.
You don’t half make work for yourself James. You didn’t have to cut that end batten in half. You should have just spaced out the other battens with a slightly bigger gap which would have given you air flow under the mattress and saved you drilling holes.
Maybe fasten the metal strip past the center support, closer to you and/or an inch or two from the sliding slats far ends (fully extended)? I like your idea of a shelf that will also act as a support, but I have a feeling you're going to get tired of moving things off the shelf. I had an idea for drop down legs, but your shelf/support idea (with vertical bracing) would be simpler. In fact, it loos like there's room for two shelves, one just above the pipes and the shelf/support? ;-)
Would a wainscot/chair rail-like thing under the gunnel work for slats to rest on? The only problem is you'd need a way to lock them in so they don't slide in the middle of the night and fall off the ledge. (i.e. tie a horizontal piece of timber into the battens for the ledge to rest on)
If you're putting cupboard doors on the front of the bed where the storage is, would it be possible to utilise these by putting them in the open position. It maybe possible to have a leg attached to the back of the door that swivels round, stopping the actual door taking the weight but using the door to in a sense, stabilise the leg. Just a thought 🤔
bit too late now .... but if you had bigger gaps between the slats, you wouldn't have had to cut the last slat lengthways (because you wouldn't have needed it at all) ... and that way you would have had your ventilation gaps too :-)
Why don’t you match the extension supports to the actual bed frame supports so when flush you can’t tell that they are actually there and don’t get in way of you moving stuff from under bed
How about a vertical piece (s) of pine that when closed covers the side of the bed and when open acts as a support. It could be attached to the piece you joined all the slats to. You would probably have to have a piece of say 6 inches on the bottom to act as a stabiliser so it looks like an upside down T shape.
I Gotta say "I like the sweater, Tis the season"
Fascinating to me how you puzzle these projects out. So impressive. And you look adorable in your Chtlristmas sweater. - Leigh
Yes loving this vlog.
Christmas jumper is a win! Good man.
Also my bed suggestion was your first choice! Win no.2, OK it wont work but I have smug face in overdrive lol 😆
It seems to me that you have answered yourself! A couple of days ago you were getting fed up with having to move everything off the kitchen work surfaces in order to do anything! Shelves on the bedroom port wall (for your dictionaries of the world 🙄🙄😂) seem to be the most viable & sensible decision…… Personally I wouldn’t cut down the step either, just remove the top as you mentioned when extending the bed. Loved the moments when you were thinking out loud, then suddenly into a moment of quietness as a possible different solution came to mind….. …. bless you for meeting so many challenges with dignity & aplomb x
I love that you use the word aplomb, it made me smile. That is a seriously underused word 😆
Just had your very first video come up so I watched it. What you have done with the boat is amazing. I would never have seen any future in your boat at that point. I really can't imagine tackling such a big job.
Always look forward to wondering where you will pop up next. Seems the dining area would be another good location for a bed. Take a tip from a camper as to how they do it. Anyway, good job not all the kids come at once. I grew up with a family of 5 kids. I had 2 brothers, then myself, then 2 more brothers. Pandemonium all the time. My poor folks. I’ll bet the kids always look forward to visiting dad. Like a mini vacay for them and the water lapping against the boat sides probably lull them to sleep fast. Keep those improvements coming. I so enjoy that aspect of the vlog. And Richard, good to be hearing the guitar again. PS Liked the sweater.
Rub the sides and bottoms of the slats with candle wax … works a treat to prevent sticking.
I like your system. Brilliant. (At least till further notice 😂😂)
Great work though in all seriousness.
Captain Jamer cracks on. 👍🎄
Good to get your approval Sir
Great idea!
Love Christmas sweater and your thoughtful goings on the bed! See you later,
I would try fastening the steel straps to the "stationary" planks in such a way that the pull out planks are supported (on top) when they are pulled out, preventing the moveable ones from dropping down. you'll have to fasten the stationary ones to the existing frame with screws to add strength. Merry Christmas James!
I love it when you say (“I’ll just work it out as I go “ ) I would do the same thing. Lol 😝 lots of love from Louisiana ❤️❤️❤️❤️
James, that looks good. Hope the steak was good. My regards to your parents. Take care and enjoy the weekend.
Nice ideas for the bed. Best use of space.
Advent🔟🛌
Agree with placing a secured Port Rail, for those rails to rest on. Great project. These narrow boat projects brings back memories for me living on boyfriends Narrowboat in Amsterdam (peace ✌️🕊️ era)!🇺🇲
Looks great. Extending the left side shelf can go as far as you want. It covers the pipes and gives you mini storage. Futons ate easy to cut apart and sew. Would work great in the v- berth and 3 of them side ways would make a bed couch with backs. Are you ready to wrap your stove pipe with copper tubing, radiators, and low voltage / gravity run pump system. Lol!
Young James, "The Human Powered Rip Saw", more Top Sawing Young James :-)
Cheers bud
Build a shelf all the way along and section it off so each child has their own little section to keep stuff in few clothes colouring books w.e kids do these days that can be left there ready for when they next come. They will love it, it will help with the feeling like home for them and it will function as the support for the pull out bed. You can store some nice things on top and clear them off when in use.. everybody's happy.
good make of the bed keep up the good work on your boat and thanks lee
Your solution looks great! Well done. I really felt for you while ripping that last board, wow. Have you considered a ‘rail’ running along the port side, about 5-6cm (2-2 1/2 inches) wide to support the bed when it is pulled all the way out? Almost like a rub rail, if you will. Maybe tie it into the shelf near the bow. Could be made up to be decorative but not stick out any further than the gunwales?
I would definitely go with the shelf idea. Maybe if you lower the crossing edge beam a little and make an edge on the shelf the two edges could lock together when the bed is extended.
You're short of general shelving storage for the children's bits and pieces for example - toys and books, even shoes. A set of shelves would be useful for their things, your books or watch or click etc, loose change - a bedside shelf.
The shelves could act as a ladder up to the bows (for the children) and shelves could be as deep as the current step reducing down in depth as you go down the boat. To avoid excess thigh damage have a rounded shelf end! 🤕
Which ever plank is considered stationary, I would make those the ones to get holes for ventilation.
Hello mate great blog watched from the beginning of build I built a slate pull out bed similar in my van for fishing I used 2 legs under your slates screwed to a cls but as you don’t want to use the leg option I would us a 2 /2 screwed to the wall opposite that’s ample and will support you plus won’t take up that much room a shelf would stick out to much plus you won’t use the pull out all the time and the metal strips not really needed when you push the slates back over your middle cross beam just sand the edges this stops the slates hitting it and pushes back easy
JAmes, Maybe another "support beam" for the bedframe (stern to bow) to the portside of the center bed support to hold the end weight of the slide out bits, and to keep the ends in line.
My internal translator stutters with "Christmas Jumper Day" even though I know what it means. 😂
I like the idea of the single metal strap on the top at the far end of the bed slats. It should be stiff enough--however, I would install that sooner rather than later, since the wood may warp. You could have a shelf along the port side with posts at the right height to accept the bed extension. That way, the bed extension would slide over the shelf, and you would not have to clear it to extend the bed.
Here’s my idea-
Put a hinge on that little table so you can just lift the lid when you need to pull the bed out.
Andddd in that you can hide a little L shaped leg to put under the lower part of the bed!
Or just put a thin strip on the gunnel like the cross beds have. Doesn’t need to be very big. Could even add a small little hook and eye to hook the top so it doesn’t fall or slip off.
When you box in the pipes, make the box high enough to support the bed extension. You could put doors on the front to make a small storage area.
Great job on that bed. Should work well!
Hi James, how about sandwiching the planks between two lots of 6mm thick ply. One under all the planks and one on the top fixed to the bed frame allowing the extension planks to slide out. Would need hole's in for ventilation, wouldn't need to go all the way up to the starboard side either. Just might be awkward cutting due to you not having power tools.
I would integrate the facia board (with access doors to the under bed storage) to act as a support same as they do in camper vans
You could use eyelets under the gunnels & heavy duty rope ratchets, no different to hanging bunks in a sub,, then you can clip pull to correct height done, nice clean install no extra building & very much invisible when not in use.
I have a cross bed with a piece of ply which sits on batons om the bed and the wall. Ply sits under mattres when not in use. Bed up in a minute and down in a minute. Matress 2/3 .. 1/3.
Hi James your step you have why not extend the length of the bed either put extension on the top of it or bit a strip of wood along the length of shelve/ cupboard and lay extension on the strip of wood for long term as a extension bed hope can understand what I mean
Hi James - time strapped so not fully up to your thinking BUT instead of having Shelf or legs to support the bed from underneath how about something coming down from under the gunwale ie rope or straps? - Have a nice sleep
Hi James merry Christmas
I’ve done a similar thing in my campervan and found fixing legs to the front price of timber sorted out the support issue.
Try checking out “sliding bed designs on RUclips for good info. Boat is looking good btw. Iam looking to do the same next year to retire on the canal..
Instead of a leg could you have a support bar? we use caravan cargo bars to hold stuff from moving when travelling in our camper, they are used on the horizontal don’t know if they could be used vertically like a jack would support? They are pretty substantial bars and store away in a small space
It’s looking great 😀
Radiate cover you can rest it on there or shelves give you more space good luck mate
James, for your bed put a folding brace on the wall and run the hinge vertical so the brace will fold flat.
You could use the methode by witch you hang cubbords, with two planks that grip one other by an angle ed cut lenghwise.
One on the bed extention bit and the other on the wall side.
So you have no Shelfs, just a decorative plank you can hang other stuf from.
Add thin batons underneath the fixed boards to stabilise the running boards. Not all the way across just at the edges. You're doing a great job.
Any guide pieces so the slide bits don't catch on the bed frames?
I'm really not very good at mechanical things but how about doing a full piece of ply over the main bed, fixed to the non moving woods, then the others would be held from tipping up (though would still need support over on the wall when extended). If you use metal strips on the moving woods, will the strips not gradually scuff up the underside of the mattress? Another thought would be to lose that centre long wood that seems to be the cause of problems and have all supports width ways? Though I guess that's pretty much a re engineer.
Come on you horns :) As an Apsley, Hemel or Kings Langley gent.
James why not just use two 2"x 2" legs and attach a piece of ply to the top of each leg like a bird table you can just place them under the pull out part and to keep them in place drill holes through the top and use a wing nut bolt to keep them in place with the wing nut at the bottom of course....simple easy and just a case of tightening a wing nut.
Hi what about make a big box all the way down and you can have it for Storage in
The yellow foam looks way past its best 😞, why not get 100mm thick /medium density foam cut to fit and then 30mm memory foam, spray glue them to each other and then you will have even more sleeping space up top near the hatch. You could also get the same foam to use as an extension to your mattress for the pull out frame. Then use the foam extension as a back cushion for the diner area when the bed is pushed back. I bought some of the cut to fit foam with memory foam spray glued on top and it is so warm and comfy I think it only cost £50 (6ft by 5ft ish)
A bunch of liars, oh different door nevermind
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What about moving your footstool piece or seat you made, move it into bedroom as a source to use
Put one metal slat on the end of the movable slats. Put one metal strap on the fixed slats, approx. at the middle, but far enough along to allow full slide out of your slats. That way it will hold down the moving slats.
You’re Metal slats Will get caught on the bottom of the mattress when pulling in and out.🤭
You don’t half make work for yourself James. You didn’t have to cut that end batten in half. You should have just spaced out the other battens with a slightly bigger gap which would have given you air flow under the mattress and saved you drilling holes.
Maybe fasten the metal strip past the center support, closer to you and/or an inch or two from the sliding slats far ends (fully extended)?
I like your idea of a shelf that will also act as a support, but I have a feeling you're going to get tired of moving things off the shelf.
I had an idea for drop down legs, but your shelf/support idea (with vertical bracing) would be simpler.
In fact, it loos like there's room for two shelves, one just above the pipes and the shelf/support? ;-)
Would a wainscot/chair rail-like thing under the gunnel work for slats to rest on? The only problem is you'd need a way to lock them in so they don't slide in the middle of the night and fall off the ledge. (i.e. tie a horizontal piece of timber into the battens for the ledge to rest on)
If you're putting cupboard doors on the front of the bed where the storage is, would it be possible to utilise these by putting them in the open position. It maybe possible to have a leg attached to the back of the door that swivels round, stopping the actual door taking the weight but using the door to in a sense, stabilise the leg. Just a thought 🤔
Why not steel on stationary ones and steel on msliding ones
Add a leg that stores in the horizontal and drops to the vertical on the edge of sliders
Make a bookshelf along that side
Shelf might be too obtrusive. Just a 5 cmx 5 cm cleat on the wall to rest the pull out on.
bit too late now .... but if you had bigger gaps between the slats, you wouldn't have had to cut the last slat lengthways (because you wouldn't have needed it at all) ... and that way you would have had your ventilation gaps too :-)
Why don’t you match the extension supports to the actual bed frame supports so when flush you can’t tell that they are actually there and don’t get in way of you moving stuff from under bed
Think the kids would like bunk beds.
Try making 3 hinged drop down legs take up no space
Perhaps suspend the end from under the gunnels rather than have it on a leg
Is it not possible just to keep it simple and put 4 legs on
I heard there’s a party going on behind the door of number 10
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How about a vertical piece (s) of pine that when closed covers the side of the bed and when open acts as a support. It could be attached to the piece you joined all the slats to. You would probably have to have a piece of say 6 inches on the bottom to act as a stabiliser so it looks like an upside down T shape.
im struggling to hear you over that jumper