Recently inherited a 35 year old VHS camcorder that no longer records to tape and have been theorizing how to make a mobile setup to go out and shoot. Thanks for proving that it can be done, and I can avoid spending an arm and a leg on an atomos ninja. Now I just have to wait patiently for Amazon to restock...
Look into IRC Powerplay, costs a decent amount but you can plug up an RCA - AV cable and it will record the output of the RCA. If your cam can output a signal over the RCA wires without actually recording, for example if you can see a live feed on a TV, you can use that to get a recording. IRC are a top end FPV manufacturer. Only issue you might have is that red/white/yellow on the plugs might not match on the AV cable. But that's easy enough to just plug the cables up wrong to make it right lol
this might be a stupid question, but would you still need a tape in the camera to record or can you just have the camera on and record through the monitor?
Every video camcorder I have (VHS, 8mm) outputs composite video as soon as it's powered on. So you just connect the output video from the camcorder, to your recording device. Then you control the recording of the video, through the device, not the camcorder. So no you don't need to put a tape in the camcorder, the camcorder can have a broken tape transport even, just as long as it powers on so you can see an image in the viewfinder.
I think my VHS camcorder only turns on the microphone when there is a tape inserted. Is there any method for me to capture audio from the microphone too?
The issue with the HDMI converter(s), is that you get a lot of annoying artifacts like ghosting, random black spots, interlacing artifacts, over contrasting, and sometimes a small amount of colour. I've had this exact set of issues with 6 different HDMI converters, and I still can't find a good one with none of those issues.
You know what would be kind-of cool? Using an anamorphic lens adapter on the front of the old camcorder's lens and having the "stretch out" to 16x9 that the AUX to HDMI converter does, restore correct proportion to the image. I would guess that this might be even less practical than the current (let's face it) kludge to record 4:3 analogue video digitally, considering the size and bulk of an an anamorphic lens adapter (not to mention how expensive these are to buy, even old secondhand ones).
Hey Chris enjoy your videos. I noticed the Suikui captures in 30fpfs. Is that good enough. I'm in Australia and Pal is the preferred format which is 50fps. Is it relevant ?
Your only reliable and arguably most expensive option to get your analog footage to a external sdi / hdmi recorder is a broadcast style converter, bssically the pro version of your cheap little white box. Blackmagic or AJA sell those, essentially ad converter who can also scale an image to a broadcast standard. Worth if you plan on using a lot of analog cameras or even retro game consoles.
@@JustAnotherChris look up blackmagic analog to sdi converter in youtube, the first entry should explain it. Someone who uses a older tv camera in a church setting.
Nice presentation. Note that the pixel dimensions may be 4K, however, the visual quality is not remotely close to 4K. Not possible when the source is only 720 x 480 pixels.
Recently inherited a 35 year old VHS camcorder that no longer records to tape and have been theorizing how to make a mobile setup to go out and shoot. Thanks for proving that it can be done, and I can avoid spending an arm and a leg on an atomos ninja. Now I just have to wait patiently for Amazon to restock...
Hopefully it’s soon!
Look into IRC Powerplay, costs a decent amount but you can plug up an RCA - AV cable and it will record the output of the RCA. If your cam can output a signal over the RCA wires without actually recording, for example if you can see a live feed on a TV, you can use that to get a recording. IRC are a top end FPV manufacturer.
Only issue you might have is that red/white/yellow on the plugs might not match on the AV cable. But that's easy enough to just plug the cables up wrong to make it right lol
I'm getting into photography thanks to you, I really love your videos.
Thanks, please keep doing all this amazing stuff.
That’s awesome! Glad you have found my videos helpful!
Love that you included the tips! I would include a description of your tips and try to get people trying to scale in premiere pro!
love the VHS content! now I need to make a trip to the attic for the old 90s dadcam lol!
Definitely pull that thing out!!
this might be a stupid question, but would you still need a tape in the camera to record or can you just have the camera on and record through the monitor?
Every video camcorder I have (VHS, 8mm) outputs composite video as soon as it's powered on. So you just connect the output video from the camcorder, to your recording device. Then you control the recording of the video, through the device, not the camcorder. So no you don't need to put a tape in the camcorder, the camcorder can have a broken tape transport even, just as long as it powers on so you can see an image in the viewfinder.
i just got the same set up and everything for my sony dcr trv103 but when i have everything set up it just says “ no HDMI”
any ideas ??
Damn, gonna have to get me one of these. I've got a RCA CC009 I've been playing around with.
I think my VHS camcorder only turns on the microphone when there is a tape inserted. Is there any method for me to capture audio from the microphone too?
It's cool!!! Has a fun retro feel ... kinda like old cable access channels!!!
Hello, what are the cables you used from the camera to make it tapeless along with those adapters?
The issue with the HDMI converter(s), is that you get a lot of annoying artifacts like ghosting, random black spots, interlacing artifacts, over contrasting, and sometimes a small amount of colour. I've had this exact set of issues with 6 different HDMI converters, and I still can't find a good one with none of those issues.
You know what would be kind-of cool?
Using an anamorphic lens adapter on the front of the old camcorder's lens and having the "stretch out" to 16x9 that the AUX to HDMI converter does, restore correct proportion to the image.
I would guess that this might be even less practical than the current (let's face it) kludge to record 4:3 analogue video digitally, considering the size and bulk of an an anamorphic lens adapter (not to mention how expensive these are to buy, even old secondhand ones).
What about deinterlacing?
Hey Chris enjoy your videos. I noticed the Suikui captures in 30fpfs. Is that good enough. I'm in Australia and Pal is the preferred format which is 50fps. Is it relevant ?
What do you think about the audio on these analog cameras turned digital? I mean I definitely prefer it to the sound of a modern camera.
Your only reliable and arguably most expensive option to get your analog footage to a external sdi / hdmi recorder is a broadcast style converter, bssically the pro version of your cheap little white box. Blackmagic or AJA sell those, essentially ad converter who can also scale an image to a broadcast standard. Worth if you plan on using a lot of analog cameras or even retro game consoles.
I can’t even comprehend this comment
@@JustAnotherChris look up blackmagic analog to sdi converter in youtube, the first entry should explain it. Someone who uses a older tv camera in a church setting.
what format and bitrate does it capture at?
Nice presentation. Note that the pixel dimensions may be 4K, however, the visual quality is not remotely close to 4K. Not possible when the source is only 720 x 480 pixels.
Cool. I think you missed the point of the video.
Fantastic setup!!!
Thank you!
I wonder what it would look like if you used tube camera instead of CCD. Tube cameras had better image quality than early CCD sensors.
Kinda late to the party, but I’ve got a sony handy cam with av ports, would this work as opposed to getting the pricy immersion power play
I don’t see why it wouldn’t
@@JustAnotherChris awesome thank you. Can i confirm theres av ports for this device
@femzzz05 no you’ll need the adapter that I show in the video
will it work on a Sony DSR PD100? I am planning to go tapeless if I cant fix my camera. thank you.
I don’t see why not
@@JustAnotherChris thank you!!!
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item is unavailable on amazon!? where else can i purchase??
DSLR shooter RUclips channel recently did a video on this item and looks like they sold out. I’m sure it will be back in stock soon.
@@JustAnotherChris thanks!!
I keep getting a no HDMI with the same setup???
Are you powering the AV to HDMI?
Yes, I have an NP battery connected to it. I also tried connect the AV to HDMI to an outlet. @@JustAnotherChris
i have 2 digital camcorders from sony one is small and records in 2K and slightly big one that records in 4K i dont need tapes
Is there a cheaper recoder under $100 that I could use to record?
Not that I’m aware of
Amazon reviews for the Suikui are not favorable though. They say it heats up.
Can you use this on your jvc too?
Yup! It will work on any VHS camera
@@JustAnotherChris Seriously…How old can we go Chris?
On any vhs camera that has RCA connections.
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