How to Farm TONS of Currency WITHOUT Magic Find to Afford these Crazy Prices...

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  • @BigDucks
    @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +34

    EDIT: Around 11:11 I talk about Uber Uber Elder and Uber Shaper but I say Uber Shaper / Normal Shaper, misspoke here and missed it in editing. Not much I can do to fix it from here.
    Posting this right as the video goes live, and since I recorded the video yesterday, the price of unID Sublime Visions has gone up another 6-7 divine. So yeah... tons of money to be made.

    • @eckology016
      @eckology016 11 месяцев назад +2

      One thing to mention is that if you look on trade, look how many of those Magebloods are shiny. The wisps definitely matter, but it's also Puzzle Boxes that have led to it sinking so hard even more. Looking at the first 100 on trade right now, a full 40% of them are foil Magebloods. That's kind of a crazy number for one source.

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@eckology016 yes but the boxes that these are from drop so frequently because of the wisps and mf

    • @reyclorox
      @reyclorox 11 месяцев назад

      One thing to note about mirror prices is that they don't have much to do with tje drops themselves, since the divine-mirror ratio is essencially the same on all leagues, and more with mass mirror holding clans (not gonna give names, but many people will know what and who am I talking about).
      This essentially makes the mirror prices being inflated in a directly propirtional way to raw divine drops, as we saw last league and as we're seeing this one.

    • @jan-ll5ev
      @jan-ll5ev 11 месяцев назад

      @BigDucks Maybe I missunderstood you but 10:45 to 11:00 it sounds like you can drop sublime vision from normal shaper. But as far as I know it is only dropped by Uber shaper.

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jan-ll5ev Ah yeah I misspoke there, ill put it in the pin.

  • @ChrisWhiton
    @ChrisWhiton 11 месяцев назад +25

    Heist is can be pretty crazy, if you can get through it feeling like a trap. I decided to go for it even before the league launched because I don't mind heist and figured that nobody would be doing them with the gem changes. It turns out I was right - but for reasons I wasn't expecting. I dropped TWO simplex amulets in my first 10 or so blueprints, the first was item level 82 and I almost fell out of my chair when I price checked it. Figured out about the split thing after I was absolutely spammed to oblivion the second I listed it lol. I found my second one (item level 85) about 7 blueprints later. It seemed common enough at the time (to me, obviously) that I thought it was an easy money strat and so I continued to farm it and get my friends to farm it as well. None of us have found any more or even focused amulets 200ish blueprints later lol. What a RIDE though!

  • @akewri3272
    @akewri3272 11 месяцев назад +4

    I actually am super happy for how it is right now. I'm rather casual and still did over 50 divs just playing stupid shit like CoC flicker. It still allows me to have fun even if i cant afford top tier items.

  • @TheDontbeEvil
    @TheDontbeEvil 11 месяцев назад +5

    I can't do any of the endgame stuff becuase my gear is shit. I can't buy good gear because everything is expensive. Its hard to move up.

  • @rodrigofarruguia1708
    @rodrigofarruguia1708 11 месяцев назад +7

    The foil magebloods and headhunters are also guarantied from certain maps. I would have thought the price would be even further down by now.

    • @mutenroshie
      @mutenroshie 11 месяцев назад

      Droped an easy Foil Mageblood map and sold it instantly for 150d. Never in all my time playing Poe had i that kind of money.

    • @ynnis-wk5sr
      @ynnis-wk5sr 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@mutenroshieif u dropped it without wisps it's quite unfortunate for u 😢

  • @bysleepy8941
    @bysleepy8941 11 месяцев назад +7

    I bought the original sin when it was 103D, now its almost a mirror. Best purchase of my life in poe.

    • @DarkWhite-t
      @DarkWhite-t 11 месяцев назад +3

      bought sanctuary of thought forbidden flame for 190d two days ago, now people sell it for 390. Wall street I'm coming!

  • @PlayGamesRideBikes
    @PlayGamesRideBikes 11 месяцев назад +22

    Thankful for the Valdo’s boxes. I didn’t mind paying 180d for it instead of 300 & it’s shiny blue

  • @FuzzyDuckzy
    @FuzzyDuckzy 11 месяцев назад +13

    Great Video. Like you say there is tons of money to be made elsewhere. Deli orbs sell 6 for a divine at the moment, Essences are insane money. Like you say anything that does not fit with a magic find/whisp strat is really good currency

    • @H1nted
      @H1nted 11 месяцев назад +1

      it's because of you i'm a millionaire now, your videos conditioned me to be an essence farmer, and in this league I can make like 10 divs in 3 hours (im a very slow player) just running T3 and T4 tropical islands and strands

    • @barrettdc1
      @barrettdc1 11 месяцев назад

      @@H1nted How do you make money from essences? Sell in bulk?

    • @BobdarGaming
      @BobdarGaming 11 месяцев назад

      ​@barrettdc1 yes sell in bulk

    • @BobdarGaming
      @BobdarGaming 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@H1nted Do T1 glacier maps. It's so fast. I use a cast on crit pathfinder with my coc setup in dallias chest piece with enhance in a red socket and cyclone in a green socket and ashes of the stars. Cyclone actually gives MORE move speed in this setup. I get 10-20 div an hour in essence alone. I am also doing deli with this strategy for some extra deli orb and simulacrums.

    • @H1nted
      @H1nted 11 месяцев назад

      @@barrettdc1 yes, mai ly essences and one other mechanics (even league mechanic but you ll be slow)

  • @malgeo318
    @malgeo318 11 месяцев назад +13

    The only thing that is bad about this league is new players dont know this stuff. Videos like this help a lot though. A new player thinks mapping is the next thing to do, and it usually is, in a usual league you go into mapping and it feels decent and you get some chaos and maybe a divine or 2 then invest in your build and do more and harder maps or something and the reward scales. with the saturation of the market with MF actually mapping without MF isnt even worth it. you are almost forced to do other content until you can invest 100div into a MF build (and thats not even a good one)
    I have been running sanctum with a penance brand inquis and the return on investment is beautiful. 50c invested, 30div out. But new players need that kind of info or i think they will start quitting quickly, especially when they grind for a couple hours and get 3-5 div normal mapping cause they arent strong enough to juice, only to find their next upgrade is 60div.
    Great video though ducks. i may make a heist character or switch my brand build to it.

    • @blan_27
      @blan_27 11 месяцев назад

      Was going to do the same, sanctum with penance inquis. What relics do you recommend running? Rather not use the double reveal one but I'm fairly new to sanctum to not sure of the better alternatives besides the single reveal

    • @xxtadaz
      @xxtadaz 11 месяцев назад +1

      Have you got a link to your build I love sanct but the brand I tried took forever to kill so I got bored and swapped.

    • @ILikeGuns1992
      @ILikeGuns1992 11 месяцев назад +2

      Afflcition is terrible mechanic for 99.99% of players.

    • @Just-A-Casual
      @Just-A-Casual 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ILikeGuns1992Yup. The mechanic seems to be aimed at the high tier 1% players because under 2-3k, nothing worthy drops but getting a build that can handle 5k+ wisps costs hundreds of divs

    • @thrace5134
      @thrace5134 11 месяцев назад +2

      This comment resonated with me because I'm experiencing the exact thing you described. I'm a new player and I turned to mapping as the first endgame activity to try to progress. So far I'm up to T4 maps and haven't seen much currency at all. Plus, these maps are very challenging for me to even get through at all. I've tested out other content in an effort to learn them but I'm still broke and have no clear path on how to get stronger, to do harder content, to farm better, to get more currency.
      I don't want to quit because I'm really enjoying the game, but I'm wondering how to most efficiently advance my character and build. Any recommendations would be most welcomed.

  • @m1xxx3r
    @m1xxx3r 11 месяцев назад +6

    Original SIn is so pricy because less people are doing Sanctum and Original Scripture had it drop rate lowered even more

  • @rpgambit
    @rpgambit 11 месяцев назад +2

    Guardian maps / uber shaper / uber elder runs farmed me about 10 div/hr. Got my first mageblood ever plus another 200div in a week. Made my first "high budget" build in 7 years of playing

  • @Vantuk
    @Vantuk 11 месяцев назад +19

    Tainted Oils went from 1 to 3 div over the weekend. I think last week they were like 100c. Stuff is crazy

    • @KAJYT6969
      @KAJYT6969 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why did they go up?

    • @yimwee2401
      @yimwee2401 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@KAJYT6969 i believe its due to a conbination of scarcity cuz not many people farm blight, and price fixing by the people that do.

    • @Drianikaben
      @Drianikaben 11 месяцев назад

      @@yimwee2401 also a lot of people using eyes of the great wolf, which drops corrupted

    • @loreneea4989
      @loreneea4989 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@yimwee2401 Its not price fixing if blight farmers are adjusting prices due to demand, two different things

    • @blastersekla
      @blastersekla 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@KAJYT6969 everyone doing mf builds using the corrupted talisman so u need that oil to annoit

  • @101wormwood
    @101wormwood 11 месяцев назад +1

    how do you trade a mirror when you cant hold enough divines to trade straight up?

  • @warriorking9381
    @warriorking9381 10 месяцев назад

    what loot filter u using please

  • @dpolenz79
    @dpolenz79 11 месяцев назад +79

    Console market is utterly screwed. 130 chaos per divine. Scarabs are min 20c no matter what type. It’s BS. They need to combine console market with pc. The player base isn’t big enough and console players don’t get real time access to so the third party pricing tools and you cannot bulk sell on console. I know I’m in the minority compared to pc player base but this is a pretty big issue on console.

    • @feuph
      @feuph 11 месяцев назад +11

      Yep as a console player i feel handicapped often around market and 3rd party tools. Anyways its 10 yo game and it is fair enough for what it is. Im managing the hype for poe II but they said console players would be happier let’s see

    • @thuncerd1087
      @thuncerd1087 11 месяцев назад +11

      If price fixers and scammers were actually banned this wouldn’t be too much of an issue.

    • @reyclorox
      @reyclorox 11 месяцев назад +3

      Console players would be hardly outcompeted by PC players because of the third party programs, such as x mouse or awakened poe trade. Inplementing crossplay would mean either the removal of thos programs because of unfair advantage, which would result in a decrease of the olayerbase, or implementing tjose features in the game, which would result in GGG having to invest more money.

    • @whatthecluck6874
      @whatthecluck6874 11 месяцев назад +5

      Xbox One has a major problem with ptw players who buy things from RiKi and other traders who sell Divines.
      Its known he owns a rmt site and the moderators do nothing. They need to find a way to auto ban Rmt people. Or just buy from the sites and become friend then ban everyone involved. Rmt is what is killing console

    • @wanshurst2416
      @wanshurst2416 11 месяцев назад +7

      130 is nothing compared to PC? here it's 210+ C...
      but:
      i am a former consoleplayer and believe me: console is ASS

  • @SacredShiro
    @SacredShiro 11 месяцев назад

    Sublime vision only drops from uber shaper and uber uber elder right? You can just do normal shaper.

  • @Athacalus
    @Athacalus 11 месяцев назад +10

    I am tired. No time to play, no currency, no upgrades. So there is no efficiency in what I do to get over inflation. I hit the wall. I play games to avoid thinking about rising IRL inflation and get some rest from what happenes on the market. But economy haunts me everywhere.

    • @CL_Hat
      @CL_Hat 11 месяцев назад

      This has always been a thing though, not even new, you were just ignorant.
      What your describing is a single player game with no market, like say, dark souls or Resident Evil. Maybe try those.

    • @Athacalus
      @Athacalus 11 месяцев назад +2

      There is big difference in inflaction level between previoud leagues and this one. Maybe if I would not hear about IRL inflaction every f day it would be more bearable.
      RE / DS - nah, not my thing, 1st/3rd person perspective is not for me. Currently I play Rogue Trader (I would recommend it, but price is too high, maybe wait for -20% off)

    • @jiovannijiuseppe
      @jiovannijiuseppe 10 месяцев назад

      @@CL_Hatif I like economy based games why would I play a game that’s not economy based? Makes no sense there’s nothing ignorant about that it’s just a preference and this is one of the benefits of league play
      Just RWT, time/money are interchangeable, you don’t have time? Maybe you’re making decent money, replace that time with money, buy in game currency to make up for the time you can’t spend farming it it’s that simple

    • @CL_Hat
      @CL_Hat 10 месяцев назад

      @@jiovannijiuseppe That was pretty much my point, maybe you meant to reply to the main comment?

  • @Seylance
    @Seylance 11 месяцев назад +1

    What you think about delving?

  • @JayBigDadyCy
    @JayBigDadyCy 11 месяцев назад +32

    PoE showing a real world example of exactly how hyperinflation works.

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 11 месяцев назад

      Maybe one day the market in swtor will crash. One can hope lol

    • @Dominicus13
      @Dominicus13 11 месяцев назад +10

      Except nothing here is wrong. It is not useless gold, it is crafting material. You can actually USE the currency

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify 11 месяцев назад

      Technically not a "real world" example, but it's something I guess.

    • @mikeg8343
      @mikeg8343 11 месяцев назад

      Sir this is a Wendy’s.

    • @tyrrollins
      @tyrrollins 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mikeg8343this meme response doesn't apply because POE has probably the most well designed game economy to date. Good Enough where real world economists study it to better understand real world economics. I'm not going to get into details as to why it's amazingly designed but OPs comment is entirely relevant to the topic. TLDR; understand your memes scrub.

  • @Nissia_
    @Nissia_ 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a delve enjoyer and getting to sell off resonators at 70 for a div was wild yesterday

  • @BestM0nster
    @BestM0nster 11 месяцев назад

    What do you mean when you say that you can split that amulets or rings pls?

  • @didnthurt4077
    @didnthurt4077 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thread of hope with massive radius was today 100divs.. wtf? Glad i got one on my first char and paid 10divs.

  • @DrChill-eo4dq
    @DrChill-eo4dq 11 месяцев назад +2

    Solution: play ssf and enjoy the game
    Best solution: just play ruthless this league and wait for another.
    Farmed mageblood/hh in 3 days. League is over. Nothing else to do.

  • @ٴٴٴ-ظ4ذ
    @ٴٴٴ-ظ4ذ 11 месяцев назад +3

    Tldr: people are magicfinding more, instead of doing other things

  • @АлександрНиконов-ж8э
    @АлександрНиконов-ж8э 11 месяцев назад

    Hey, which browser do you use in this video?

  • @squigglymonkey1
    @squigglymonkey1 11 месяцев назад

    Are the focused amulets only found at the end of a blueprint, or can they drop anywhere or in contracts too?

  • @Josh-nw8oh
    @Josh-nw8oh 11 месяцев назад +2

    I know it has made the economy wonky, but I don't care. I love it! I'm having the most fun this league that I've ever had in POE.

  • @alexanderfriedrichs2645
    @alexanderfriedrichs2645 11 месяцев назад +9

    For me it seems like the spiral is only starting, prices will continue to grow. The Abyss proj interaction has only been made public about 10(?) days ago and it attracts more and more ppl to be a part of these insane loot explosions. Now we see videos of how to get more whisps etc. I still enjoy the league completely ignoring it, but im really tired of ppl writing "found 3hh, 2mb 1mirror... today". Its a shame.

    • @Papi-qd4tc
      @Papi-qd4tc 11 месяцев назад

      imagine being tired of other people having fun - probably you make 20 div per league, salty clown

    • @botao4456
      @botao4456 11 месяцев назад

      Wait till you got 1 extreme drop youll understand how they felt lol

  • @Groove_Gamer
    @Groove_Gamer 11 месяцев назад +4

    No amount of divines would make me want to play door league, heist is absolute garbage.

  • @gvarph7212
    @gvarph7212 11 месяцев назад

    What build for yellow feared farming would you recommend? I have ~200div budget

  • @MarkFin9423
    @MarkFin9423 11 месяцев назад +8

    If anything, affliction league is exacerbating the problem that PoE already has. Namely, how a handful of players can simply drive up the prices for everyone else so the average player never make it past white and yellow maps before giving up and playing something else once they figure out they will need to role a number of characters to get anywhere.
    Either that, or learn how to craft which is so complex you can make a college course out of it

    • @ashaf3561
      @ashaf3561 11 месяцев назад +1

      I mean not really. You can farm blight, beasts or essences with basically campaign gear in white maps. Since the majority aren't you could get a 10-20 div build in like a week or less depending on game time. The issue is people that want to push past a 50d build with a mageblood into something better. That tier of gear is crazy pricy compared to other leagues and basically forces you into mfing to get there.

    • @ElSabio159
      @ElSabio159 11 месяцев назад

      I dont fully agree since affliction mechanic is a busted and easily available for everyone

    • @b0nes95
      @b0nes95 11 месяцев назад

      Even if you know how to craft, you still need to buy very expensive crafting mats. In my experience, buying directly is often cheaper than hitting the rng slot machine that is non-deterministic crafting.

    • @nickwilliamson2640
      @nickwilliamson2640 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yea you definitely need to buy multiple divine items to get past white and yellow maps 🤔 😂

  • @spexnic6263
    @spexnic6263 11 месяцев назад

    how to make currency in poe:
    >build a cheap armour stacker build for 15 divs
    >do bossrush until you get to buy a mageblood
    >get a mageblood and do more bossing and invitations
    >profit

  • @anaalvensleben789
    @anaalvensleben789 11 месяцев назад +11

    Surprised you didn't mention Delve. Thanks to the changes to the Adorned, getting the Vaal Outpost boss, a Curiosity is currently going for 4 div, the maze map is going for over 7 and he's not hard to find. Aul amulet's with the meta getting a Malevolence or Envy is big money and delvers are the only source of fossils and resonators for crafting. :)
    Edit: Even for new players with meh gear, oils from Blight and just selling delirium orbs or sextants to feed the MFers is good starting currency. It's not even 'stuff that can't be found in maps' so much as 'anything that requires any amount of dedication' as fewer people are doing anything outside of forcing delirium, abyss/legion and running it.

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +6

      Main reason I didnt mention Delve is because I forget that mechanic exists as I really dislike it. But yeah, delve is fine right now.

    • @anaalvensleben789
      @anaalvensleben789 11 месяцев назад

      @@BigDuckslol that's fair. Deep delving is cancer and unlike heist, the sulphite mechanic can't be sustained so I get it :)

    • @titanicjack6744
      @titanicjack6744 11 месяцев назад +1

      As a player who only started Poe 2 wks ago this is what I worked out. Don’t really know what I’m doing but got to T13 maps, need to make my build stronger, gear is stupid expensive for the rate I’m making currency. So watched a heap of videos to see what people are doing and reworked my Atlas yesterday to farm the resources being used to feed the meta. Hope it works

    • @Rikokknd
      @Rikokknd 11 месяцев назад

      @@titanicjack6744 look up essence + beast farming in white maps. Very good if you can't take on red maps yet. It's easy, requires almost 0 currency investment(1 bestiary scarab + a few chaos on map machine - about 5c a map) , and after some time you're ready to sell your essences for divines in bulk. Also there is always a chance to find Craicic Chimeral beast, which is 2,5 div now. Some other beasts sell for 20-40c.
      Just don't be impatient and don't sell essences one by one.

    • @martinbobis6764
      @martinbobis6764 11 месяцев назад

      @@titanicjack6744 the truth is that you need like 1 item and your kinda set, u wont really spend 100+ div min maxing a build if you are starting out normally, so for me was just farming a couple of divines, to get a solid build and running some bosses till i got a good item, and after that almost any juiced map will pay for itself and you can go and try every farming strategy or piece of content that you like.

  • @lfantucci2011
    @lfantucci2011 11 месяцев назад +4

    Well, i agree with you, magic find is not fun for me, because its the same itens, you nerf your charachter just to do a low tier maps and drop some currency, its againts the logical progression of making your charachter stronger and do harder content.
    But, heist is even worse than that...people literally go full move speed and tankiness because you dont even need to kill enemies in heist, you just run and click some chest/boxes, so, keep that in mind.

    • @Gweriaa
      @Gweriaa 11 месяцев назад

      Current MF is not doing low tier maps. High end MF where the fun starts is in t16 8 mod deli mirror beyond winged sextants wandering path etc etc...

  • @ayemjake
    @ayemjake 11 месяцев назад +4

    mageblood's drop in prices also may (or may not)correlate to the number of people farming foiled magebloods in void maps

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 11 месяцев назад

    Basically , this is exactly the same thing as real world inflation. People think inflation is a symptom but it's not, inflation literally means inflation of the currency supply, that's it. When there is more currency in the system prices naturally rise to compensate. Exchanging 10$ for 2x 5$ doesn't change, but if there are twice as many $ in existence then they are all worth less in terms of purchasing stuff.
    (FYI if you're interested the reason it happens IRL it's because the banks inflate or currency supply via fractional reserve lending (loans), it's so out of hand in fact that 96% of our currency is generated (from thin air) by the banks because of this, not the government)

  • @nik970305
    @nik970305 11 месяцев назад

    what do you mean you find mirrors in MAPS?

  • @Asag321
    @Asag321 11 месяцев назад +4

    I could not keep up with the prices for my build because things that normally costed like 50c are now 5 divines and build that costed like 20 divines is now closer to 70. So I took the risk and I leveled in one day MF Pathfinder and used all my 12 Divines to gear it up. Straight after campaign I went into yellow maps and at my first map I already got two raw divine drops from abyss monsters.
    It wasn't even juiced by scarabs or sextants. Just alch and go map, the whole abyss/wisp interaction is just broken and should be fixed by GGG right now even if this will piss alot of players. It does more harm to the game than disabling one of the MF strategy. But I think its already to late because prices won't go down sadly at this point.

    • @JakSays
      @JakSays 11 месяцев назад +1

      This. I quit this league about 2 weeks in. The entire economy got screwed and thats just made the game a lot less fun

    • @didnthurt4077
      @didnthurt4077 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think it was just a lucky drop. Got a few raw divs on my mf char and then no drops for 2 days. I cant really afford upgrades on my main char and thinking to call it a day.

    • @Asag321
      @Asag321 11 месяцев назад

      @@didnthurt4077 Its not luck at all. Already got back all divines that I invested into this char. Got few more raw divines drop but theres alot of other stuff that adds up for example scarab loot explosions or smaller currency stacks. Its just crazy how much loot drop there.

    • @Gweriaa
      @Gweriaa 11 месяцев назад

      what in gods name went from 50c to 5div? u smoking smth or what

    • @Asag321
      @Asag321 11 месяцев назад

      @@Gweriaa TWWT jewel with +2 max fire res with ANY other mods you could buy under 100c easily. Now it cost not even 5 divines but cheapest atm is 9 divines. And alot more items went up in price. My Large Cluster went from 7 divines to 14 divines right now. Nimis that costed like 28 divines is 45 right now while in previous league costed like 20 max?
      I don't know what build you play and what items you watch but items for two my builds that I play (the MFer is 3rd) went up alot and the total budget needed for the builds got atleast doubled.

  • @alkro86
    @alkro86 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm doing shaper/guardian/sirus maps with essences. Making 12-15 div/hour on basically a 0 investment strategy. I self-sustain most of the time on maps/invitations and if I run low I buy a few.

    • @berastraw
      @berastraw 11 месяцев назад

      can u share me how bro?

  • @LC-pp4bb
    @LC-pp4bb 11 месяцев назад

    When does heist become profitable? And do I need to put points into the atlas?

  • @adriandraganescu6040
    @adriandraganescu6040 11 месяцев назад

    8:48 THANK YOU, I wish the devs understood that too.

  • @sungjinwoo-yt69
    @sungjinwoo-yt69 11 месяцев назад +8

    they should remove MF in gears

    • @itsallinthepast2944
      @itsallinthepast2944 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yea it has to go,useless justification since they still can scale dmg with tf or being tanky af with self ignite chieftain its insane

  • @AlexHitzig
    @AlexHitzig 11 месяцев назад +2

    Man I swore off Heist years ago because it really wasn't super enjoyable for me, now you got me considering if I should roll a heister 😂

    • @Luca-nf8ll
      @Luca-nf8ll 11 месяцев назад +1

      350 divine for 25 hours is really low $ for this league lmao. You can drop 80 divine per hour in jungle valley with the abyss strat and full MF gear

    • @heyitsrj1
      @heyitsrj1 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@Luca-nf8llthe whole point was for people that don’t want to do MF and don’t mind putting hours to do other strats to get their currency.

    • @colonelJ77
      @colonelJ77 11 месяцев назад

      all the MF streamers are already doing heist.... read the room, friend.

    • @AlexHitzig
      @AlexHitzig 11 месяцев назад

      Plenty of them have moved to doing boss strats as well, returns for that continue to be good as well. I'm sure that anyone who decides to dive into heist will have plenty of rewards to reap. Not everyone wants to MF, and not everyone wants to heist either, just like everything in PoE. It'll be fine for anyone going into it. No need to be condescending in the comments friend

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 11 месяцев назад

    headhunter is somewhat cheap this league, any other unique items that are really strong, usually above 1 divine and 50% cheaper this league?

  • @HBosse90
    @HBosse90 11 месяцев назад

    Can i get a POB for this build?

  • @jesaiya
    @jesaiya 11 месяцев назад +2

    Streamers are dropping mirrors nonstop, thats why everything is so expensive.

  • @gianlanser2897
    @gianlanser2897 11 месяцев назад +6

    Cant wait for the heist guide. Great video.

  • @sefii05
    @sefii05 11 месяцев назад

    your outro song is such a classic at this point

  • @YuriDSC
    @YuriDSC 11 месяцев назад

    It's always amusing to see PoE players figuring out concepts like "Supply and Demand" and "Inflation" every other league or so as if they've never seen it before.

  • @BrandingChangeYep
    @BrandingChangeYep 11 месяцев назад +3

    Also I want to mention Sublime Vison can only drop off of Uber Shaper (or Uber Uber Elder).
    The boss you call Uber Shaper is often called Uber Elder.
    I just don't want people watching this thinking they can go farm normal shaper and get a sublime vison.

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I put this in the pinned comment, didnt catch it in editing and misspoke.

  • @c64flash
    @c64flash 11 месяцев назад

    Cluster jewel prices are stat specific, it's not that for example a physical damage base is worth multiple divines...

  • @TheMrDewil
    @TheMrDewil 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's funny to me how I don't understand any of this, like, I know the words, but meaning and context completely escapes me. It sounds to me more like a job or a business than a game. After years of playing PoE in and out, I barely understand how crafting works, but then again, I'm not very active player to begin with, and for the most part I play in standard league with my new favorite thing recently being ruthless mode.
    Following build guides feels like too much work, when all you want is just have some fun. I'm not saying the game's bad, quite the opposite, really, I like it a lot, but what I found out for myself is that engaging with all the numerous mechanics is quite difficult, especially if you don't know what the end result is supposed to be.

    • @Nesot
      @Nesot 11 месяцев назад

      Well, it’s trading so it sounds like business

  • @osh111
    @osh111 11 месяцев назад

    what is that buil?

    • @mattyryon
      @mattyryon 11 месяцев назад

      kinetic bolt of fragmentation

  • @dennis3nde
    @dennis3nde 11 месяцев назад +4

    gz you got an amulet so fast, i grind scince leaguestart heist an got zero, i ran about 3k wings

    • @divinityai
      @divinityai 11 месяцев назад +1

      yup. He says on avg 20-25 hours, but that is not true. I think it is much lower rate sadly

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 11 месяцев назад

      ....3k wings any tips on farming more markers?

    • @dennis3nde
      @dennis3nde 11 месяцев назад

      @@divinityai yeah i think He was insane lucky

    • @dennis3nde
      @dennis3nde 11 месяцев назад

      @@beasthaven1571 i Boss Rush shaper Maps with both heist Sextant to Farm contracts with implicids, and i didnt need to buy any marker

  • @Commandelicious
    @Commandelicious 10 месяцев назад

    Refreshing view point. Thanks

  • @blech71
    @blech71 11 месяцев назад

    Good insights man! Great work as always!

  • @sebastiantramontana8136
    @sebastiantramontana8136 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ive been farming grand heist for days now not a single amulet or ring seen so far .... its fucking crazy i might just give up at this point

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 11 месяцев назад

      Its still rare drop hunting its not easy but the dtack decks should b good

  • @lordofchaosinc.261
    @lordofchaosinc.261 11 месяцев назад

    There's so much stuff to sell. Oils are expensive. Invitations are expensive and easy to get. Temple maps make for easy early divines. Everything that doesn't drop from maps "normally" as in with farming with MF went up in price. The stuff found with MF went down in price like many uniques.

  • @Wishbonegreco
    @Wishbonegreco 11 месяцев назад

    could we get your build pob used in the video? the KB 🙂

  • @Frakorion
    @Frakorion 11 месяцев назад

    thats what i did, farmed shaper maps with maven witness and ran some formed, got like 12-20 div from maven witnesses alone and some good raw currency on the side

    • @skyraw4658
      @skyraw4658 11 месяцев назад

      What build do you recommend for that strat?

  • @Jiggerjaw
    @Jiggerjaw 11 месяцев назад

    Looks like heist enjoying BigDucks comes out on top again. Had no idea this amulets were selling for the much.

  • @devraiden336
    @devraiden336 10 месяцев назад

    i just started first char like yesterday and i know last time i played enlighten lvl 3 was like 30c literally now its 3 div at least ...i was so confused wtf is happening then i seen lvl 4 being 70+ div .....and as new fresh char i cant afford anything to buy to even start mapping t16 normally i am so lost ....

  • @JohnnyCash-tw8ps
    @JohnnyCash-tw8ps 11 месяцев назад +2

    Heist vid would be good, never really much of it. Not sure how to unlock more rooms on grand heists.

  • @stavik96
    @stavik96 11 месяцев назад

    friend got mageblood in void map and we got a random mirror drop doing crimson temple before one went aurabot and one went MF, now after they both specced into it and me just being there looting we've had instances where we literally move at a snail's pace because the loot and everything causes that much lag, hundreds of uniques, currency, fractured bases etc. crashed myself multiple times because of accidentally forgetting and clicking alt.

  • @mrwhite6340
    @mrwhite6340 11 месяцев назад

    Funny how someone posted about stacking wisp farming on reddit few days into the league and was bashed by almost everyone, and now everyone is doing it

  • @nomoreweebs
    @nomoreweebs 11 месяцев назад +1

    the thing is in poe there no content worth pushing your character beyond 1 mirror i wouldnt mind if removed mf but gave content that was harder and more rewarding .

    • @piotrkon3852
      @piotrkon3852 11 месяцев назад

      You know that valdos maps exist

  • @SeanMasters
    @SeanMasters 11 месяцев назад

    Heist is pure RNG and there is a graveyard of posts on Reddit & RUclips of people who have run 100+ blueprints without a single valuable drop is the problem. Like you want to like Heist, then you read that and it's like... ugh, no, not more RNG non-deterministic content.

  • @thekakazi
    @thekakazi 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wasn't ancestor a really bad benchmark for the price of things like mageblood specifically because of the absurd amount of currency Sanctum runners had compared to everyone else.
    At least the volume of magebloods increased with the easy of currency gain to keep the price reasonable so people can actually get these chase items.

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +2

      It was more so to show the difference between items that can be found in maps, and items that cannot be found in maps.

  • @ivpiv5933
    @ivpiv5933 11 месяцев назад +2

    This has been the case in every league since GGG made loot more or less deterministic. The fact that more people have tuned into it this league and the fact that it might be more easily accessable in this league doesnt change the fact there is something fundamentally wrong with GGG´s model of 3 month leagues, and how they balance crafting and loot in this game.
    I mean something is terribly wrong if they cant manage a relatively healthy economy in league that only lasts 3-4 months. I have been shouting about this since, I think delve league when crafting became insanely deterministic, where prior to this crafting was WAY more random and a way bigger currency sink. Since then we have harvest league beastiary league and a ton of other leagues that has just made the powercreep of crafted items sky rocketed, the power of characters skyrocket. All this combined with the fact that GGG balances around the top 1000 players and streamers play that leads to INSANE powercreep, loot creep and just generally a terrible economy.
    I mean basicly every problem this game has is due to them balancing after streamers and the top 1000 most powerful characters, the game becomes crazy real fast. I could argue this for hours, but unfortunately i´m a nobody who loves PLAYING the game, and who has been playing the game, whenever the game was bearable since closed beta. Im not one of those people who "works" the game, by that I mean POE is not my job, so my opinion is not really wanted.
    Anyways, here´s to hoping the streamers and min maxers wont make POE 2 a complete garbage craft and prerequisite grind fest!

    • @WitherAndrot
      @WitherAndrot 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, let's make crafting more random so that players would spend tons of currency on it and never get desirable outcome, that would be fun, wouldn't it?

  • @gremiocopeiro83
    @gremiocopeiro83 11 месяцев назад

    Been farming some bosses, since I hate magic finding, but oh boy, getting f*ed by invitation dropping RNG

  • @mr.gamingz
    @mr.gamingz 11 месяцев назад

    next time when such an overjuiced league appears i will 100% go heists
    if people have currency, they should pay

  • @legendofsociety796
    @legendofsociety796 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds like inflation in real time

  • @littlesilly5721
    @littlesilly5721 11 месяцев назад

    budget heist runner comming soon?

  • @Feanturo
    @Feanturo 11 месяцев назад

    I already stopped doing the league mechanic, because it messes with my excitement of items dropping because soo much valuable stuff is dropping now, i´m back into the mines.

  • @simonsayz3925
    @simonsayz3925 11 месяцев назад

    this vid is extremely good for me as a noob, you got a follower

  • @HALsc2
    @HALsc2 11 месяцев назад

    my mapping strat earns 16div/hour without MF, and without wisps
    though friend of me earns like 3 div per 5min with MF which is way better than mine, but it is what it is. I just don't like MFing
    anyway I got all gears finished and bought mageblood, so I don't have to
    how to: choose one of master and be an expert of it
    Niko, Jun, Alva
    Delve: farming fossils in depth 400~500. good one sells for 30c~100c each
    Jun: Aisling T4 is 8 div atm
    Alva: double corrupt temple is 3.3 div atm
    I don't recommend Einhar unless group farming

  • @daniruzsa1751
    @daniruzsa1751 11 месяцев назад +2

    One of the biggest thing u did not mention is good players bricking their characters in Valdos so way bigger market for those who can actually afford big items. And the feared is huge profit made 120div profit on 25run without any huge drops calced in.

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 11 месяцев назад +2

      ....how what does the feared even drop!?

    • @Rikokknd
      @Rikokknd 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@beasthaven1571Feared drops everything that bosses for feared drop. Notably - bottled faith, chayula's blessing, watcher's eye, elder/shaper uber fragments, elder/shaper huardian maps, dying sun, maven splinters - and a good rolled Feared drops up to 1,5 maven invitations (if you can take on 100% quant feared, of course).

    • @daniruzsa1751
      @daniruzsa1751 11 месяцев назад

      @@beasthaven1571 maven writs and I did normal elder Uber shaper so Uber elder setts and multiple 3-5div drops like blessings bottles from cortex , shaper flasks

  • @bjorngerhard8860
    @bjorngerhard8860 11 месяцев назад

    1:the main idea is doe whatever u like to do... if its mf do that, if its minmaxing do that, goes for mf goes for bossing goes for wahtever u want to do.
    2:assumtion is that currency and whatever u can get in maps loses worth is wrong.... since there is the first time in history of this game taht mirror tier items are achievable for casuals but since majority is playing mf right now items obtained by not mfing growing in price focused and simplex since its bis for mf builds and there are not as much heist runners rockted in price not because of inflation but there are way more people asking for those kind of goodies and not enough supplie same goes for original sin and other things
    no inflation but rocketing in prizes since more people want these things and no supply ... inflation will occur once playerbase drops and people would still mf thats not the case atm the market is stable rocketing in prices for specific goodies comes from supplie not inflation

  • @StatTheMusicFinder
    @StatTheMusicFinder 11 месяцев назад

    Can’t wait for the heist vid! When will it be?

  • @Vesp3r1987
    @Vesp3r1987 11 месяцев назад

    stuff is getting so expensive cause tons of currency drops. Even before finishing campaign people get 5+ divs
    Its funny though... this is my best league (currency wise) and i still cant afford any build outside the "league start budget"
    The reason why Mageblood is losing price might be due to the insane ammount of maps that give it

  • @arthurdent9281
    @arthurdent9281 11 месяцев назад

    I just found a Forbidden Flesh jewel today that i sold for 130 div. I've never had more than a quarter of the currency that i have in this league now. I'm not even sure what build to try with it! 😂 Builds in that range have always been out of my reach.

  • @brandoncarter2624
    @brandoncarter2624 11 месяцев назад

    Yeah I am not doing any crazy MF find build or strat on t7 maps with abyss. Screw all that. I just do the league mechanic with delirium and searing exatch altars and I am making plenty of divines. Abd it was way more fun for sure! All that abyss magic find stuff gets way to much stuff to drop and I think it takes away the fun of finding really good items when it just drops like candy.

  • @AlexM86
    @AlexM86 11 месяцев назад

    Also don't forget about regals as divine trinket. I got mine for 40c and produced probably 6 div so far. Iy all adds up

    • @softelfi8721
      @softelfi8721 11 месяцев назад

      what's the name for it?

    • @AlexM86
      @AlexM86 11 месяцев назад

      @@softelfi8721 it's a mod on rare trinkets something like regal orbs have a x% chance to drop as divines instead

  • @markkristie1508
    @markkristie1508 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wait, you were talking about doing heists for 15-20 hours and finding all of that stuff but aren't you in a pretty full MF set of gear? At least the character you displayed was so is this true if you DON"T use all/any of that gear?

    • @TheDublord21
      @TheDublord21 11 месяцев назад

      heist doesnt scale with mf im pretty sure

  • @skellskell3772
    @skellskell3772 11 месяцев назад

    Did you also forget they nerfed the drop rate of original sin relic

  • @riverstomp2924
    @riverstomp2924 11 месяцев назад

    Great analysis of the current state of the market.

  • @SaulitoNGaming
    @SaulitoNGaming 11 месяцев назад +1

    sold original sin relic dropped from sanctum for 370div
    (:

  • @duberdurm
    @duberdurm 11 месяцев назад +14

    Need currency to make your build strong. Need a strong build to get currency.

    • @Rawlingm
      @Rawlingm 11 месяцев назад +2

      This is what I came to comment lol, I’ve put about 30 divs into my build grinding away doing harvest and essences and my build still can’t do any of this content even with just like 2k wisps lol

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +1

      Realistically you can get a basic build off the ground with something like boss rushing in maps for a few hours until you can start up something that can do Bossing, or Simulacrum. Heist is actually somewhat inexpensive to get going, you just have to suffer a bit with opening boxes until you make the money to be able to do like 10div of Contracts/Blueprints at a time.

    • @mystictrunks5508
      @mystictrunks5508 11 месяцев назад

      @@BigDucksby opening boxes do you mean the caches on maps or do you mean you don’t actually open boxes in blueprints and rush the reward.

  • @G33KST4R
    @G33KST4R 11 месяцев назад

    We speed ran late economy. it's so wild (also original sin is 2 mirrors now)

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 11 месяцев назад

    Why is your helmet disabled?

    • @mattyryon
      @mattyryon 11 месяцев назад

      dance with death keystone from timeless jewell

    • @BuzzaB77
      @BuzzaB77 11 месяцев назад

      @@mattyryon thanks

  • @theguy6847
    @theguy6847 11 месяцев назад

    once all this floods core, it's going to suck, if it goes core it"s getting hit hard with the nurf hammer. I dont have the time, knowledge or skill to do a league and have fun. I would love to see currency drop like that in core, then I could be more adventurist crafting.

  • @stanislavboianov3356
    @stanislavboianov3356 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's always have been a wrong approach to HAVE to play Magic Find in order to play the build you want to initially. I hope that GGG changes that in PoE2, so we will never have the NEED to play a MF before our planned build...or whatever we want to play.

    • @juusojuuso9214
      @juusojuuso9214 11 месяцев назад

      Where's the fun in that? Can't just be handed stuff on a silver platter, game loses it's challenge and achieving the dream build would lose it's shine

    • @stanislavboianov3356
      @stanislavboianov3356 11 месяцев назад

      @@juusojuuso9214 you lack reality-connection dude

  • @yyyiiyyy
    @yyyiiyyy 11 месяцев назад

    marvelous video, i was about the quit the league bc seems like if you dont do mf you dont get anything, but this is indeed very helpfull, could we expect a mageblood guide for the kinetic bolt/blast build? a really big one to try to get.

    • @fungus9062
      @fungus9062 10 месяцев назад

      Try alva. Locus like a 4 divine per temple. I often add some essences. It will give expected profit

  • @shanebovell6733
    @shanebovell6733 11 месяцев назад

    if performance wasn't so abysmal this league I might have found a way to have fun despite the market being wonky. ah well.

  • @Cole88_
    @Cole88_ 11 месяцев назад

    I got an ilvl 86 Simplex a couple days ago. my biggest drop ever lol. funds most of the rest of my league probably

  • @colonelJ77
    @colonelJ77 11 месяцев назад

    keep magic finding, friends..... now all the streamers are going to farm heist and blight... if you havne't figured out this pattern yet then there is no hope for you.

  • @阿財123
    @阿財123 11 месяцев назад

    Another good video again! well explained.

  • @sober667
    @sober667 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was supprised why relicks from sanctum are so expensive
    been running some blind runs for sandstorm Visage
    Ealier running hest still have a metric tone of blubrints and contracts for unveils i can so easly jsut hit that
    and my character is dum boss killer so if i acualy learn ubers i can do that too XD

  • @CepheusFromTheMoon
    @CepheusFromTheMoon 11 месяцев назад

    original sin price is absolutely absurd yall better start farming sanctum and bringing that down, original sin is not worth 1 mirror smh

  • @gintonic8218
    @gintonic8218 11 месяцев назад

    Would you mind posting a PoB to your MF set up? I'm wondering how you manage the STR requirement without the rings - non-corrupted bisco + 2x 30 STR nodes? Have you noticed a significant difference from using 2x gamble + goldwyrm + bisco?

    • @BigDucks
      @BigDucks  11 месяцев назад +2

      tbh its not even close to complete, I'll work on it probably after im done with heist stuff.