Porsche CAM TIMING CHAIN GUIDE RAIL Replacement/Install - Day 1 - Bank 1 (Condensed Version)

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    This video shows you how to replace the camshaft timing chain guide rail in a 2002 Boxster S 986 M96 engine. We did it with the engine in the car! That's right, no engine removal required. Should also be very similar for Cayman and 911 models!
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Комментарии • 105

  • @Anil-bg5se
    @Anil-bg5se 2 года назад +6

    This will be useful for a lot of DIYers. Thanks for the video!
    Seems like if you put the cams with celenoid non-released, it will be easier to put it back and adjust.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Anil I hope so!
      I think if you pay attention to the alignment while it’s out and before releasing tension it would be easier outside the engine before reinstalling
      Edit: After making part 2 I agree! Also should tension it with the cams in to avoid those gears touching the variocam!

    • @Anil-bg5se
      @Anil-bg5se 2 года назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY Can't wait to see part 2 :)

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      @@Anil-bg5se Making the Member's Only version public right now!

    • @Anil-bg5se
      @Anil-bg5se 2 года назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY Awesome, really appreciate it! These days, I am building a tow hitch behind my boxster to attach a bike rack without drilling anything on the car. I will share the video of how I made it once it is finished in case you want to make for yourself and create a video of it.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      @@Anil-bg5se sounds fun! Make a detailed enough video and I’ll post it for you on the channel if you want

  • @nornibres
    @nornibres 2 года назад +4

    Ugh, I feel your pain. I think in a perfect world you pull the engine in the fall and do all of these maintenance issues over the course of the winter. This video wore me out, I can't imagine how you felt actually doing the work. I'm gonna need a break before part 2. Thanks for all of your videos.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Nor Nibres haha you should try the full length version 😂

  • @dkpoynter
    @dkpoynter Год назад +4

    Tip for special tool 9632 variocam tensioner. After much hunting around I discovered that the Traxxas toe link part #8638 for RC cars is ideal for the job. One end is 5mm LH thread and the other is 5mm RH, with a few tweaks you can use this to relieve the tension before removing the cams. Cost less than AUD$20 :)

  • @briansturgill5905
    @briansturgill5905 2 года назад +2

    Awesome video! I remember this was a pita to do. Especially lining them up like you guys dealt with. When we had it out we went ahead and installed some Schrick Hydraulic Sport Camshafts. Man it really screams now.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Brian Sturgill thanks man! I hadn’t even known there were aftermarket cams available until right now 😳🤯

  • @Sh0pd0gs
    @Sh0pd0gs Год назад +3

    @HelpMeDIY just completed this job on my Boxster thanks to your careful video (and member only version.) Was one of the hardest jobs I’ve done on a car and have you to thank for making that job possible!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Jordan Miller love to hear it! And thanks for being a member ❤️

  • @JohnKaufmann
    @JohnKaufmann Год назад +1

    I'll be doing this in the winter. Thx for taking the time to do this

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +John Kaufmann you’re welcome! 🍻

  • @19lol19
    @19lol19 2 года назад +3

    you both have good on camera chemistry you both should link up and make more videos together

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Peanut Man thanks! We got along really well for virtual strangers 😆

  • @reinhardtwildschut1093
    @reinhardtwildschut1093 Год назад +1

    I'm not to the end, a very nice collaboration. Keep on keeping on.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Reinhardt Wildschut thank you, will do!

  • @edjustice7755
    @edjustice7755 2 года назад +1

    Just was watching and with the cams out instead of trying to put the tensioner assembly in from the front side, I noticed that inserting them from the backside would be easier...of course if the cams on in the block that is not an option...just an observation. Great share! Thanks!!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +ED Justice thanks! We tried both directions 😂

  • @myferrari3603
    @myferrari3603 2 года назад

    I love having two versions. For the more complicated projects I want to see the uncut version of every camera angle. I don't mind paying for the content.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +My Ferrari 360 great feedback, thanks! That’s going to be my model moving forward I think.

  • @warrenlucier5796
    @warrenlucier5796 5 месяцев назад +1

    Once you do it the next time becomes easier and the hardtop conversion looks really nice on his Boxster too.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  5 месяцев назад

      +@warrenlucier5796 yes, first time is always the hardest! 🍻

  • @abtappy1190
    @abtappy1190 2 года назад

    Very instructive, how to do it and how not to do it. This is a very good practice recording. Thank you. 👍🏽

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Ab Tappy you’re welcome 🍻

  • @TheTexasOiler
    @TheTexasOiler Год назад +2

    I see the Cruzan bracelet VI, thanks for the video.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +The Texas Oiler I don’t know what that means, but you’re welcome! 😆

    • @TheTexasOiler
      @TheTexasOiler Год назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY Your buddy has been to St. Croix that's where he got his bracelet from the cruzan hook.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      @@TheTexasOiler ohhhh gotcha 😆

  • @x1area51ii7
    @x1area51ii7 2 года назад +1

    Awesome thanks! Man those green cap rubber covers really scary if they fall inside the casing. Lol

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +X1area51 II I think it would be very hard to get one inside the casing part the cams!

  • @harmangill823
    @harmangill823 2 года назад +1

    Been anxiously waiting for this video. Is this a 5-chain or 3-chain motor ?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Harman Gill 5-chain

  • @JimmyTomes
    @JimmyTomes 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Very cool to watch even though I have a 987.1 and found your channel through that.
    Quick question, what was going on with the timing marks on the cam sprockets? Was it okay? Did the cams go back in at the same position, even thought you thought you adjusted the chain? Is the exciting conclusion in Day 2?!
    Thanks!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +JimmyTomes thanks!
      Yes it was ok. I explain it in Day 2. Coming soon!

  • @vicky-nc3to
    @vicky-nc3to Год назад +1

    What is the acceptance value for cam deviations?
    Thankyou for the upload..

  • @19lol19
    @19lol19 2 года назад +1

    what's up bro it's your boy from matthews, nc with the 987 boxster

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +2

      +Peanut Man hello neighbor!

  • @randyfleet9968
    @randyfleet9968 Год назад +1

    I found it much easier to remove the cam covers by removing the spark plug tubes first.
    E = EIN meaning in.
    A = AUS meaning out.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Randy Fleet thanks for the German! Makes sense 🍻

  • @WhoTFstolemyname
    @WhoTFstolemyname 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video - question, are the rails on the cam chain the ones that wear more rather than the lower chain ramps? if you had an engine out would you replace the lower ramps also or just the pair up top?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Austin yes that’s correct, the ones we replaced seem to wear the most. And yes, if I had the engine out those other rails would get replaced as well.

    • @SHaDoRuN
      @SHaDoRuN 10 месяцев назад

      Can you replace the lower ones with out pulling the engine?

  • @theXbaT1
    @theXbaT1 2 года назад +1

    Sold my boxster yesterday, I'm buying a 997 Turbo. Hope you buy one too so I get some how to videos :D :D

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +TheXbaT well it sounds like you need to get a second one and donate it to the channel. For science 😁

    • @theXbaT1
      @theXbaT1 2 года назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY Haha, The bank already owns mine, so I don't think they want another one.

  • @tomburns890
    @tomburns890 Год назад +1

    How many miles did your car have on it. How long typically should these plastic guide rails last on a well taken care of non tracked 997.1 turbo Mezger? Thx

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +T B I don’t remember how many miles… thought he mentioned that in the video though. Maybe not. I think they start deteriorating around 60k in my limited experience.

  • @billjackson957
    @billjackson957 2 года назад +1

    Understanding that prices will vary throughout the country, what would be a reasonable or typical price for this service at a dealership or independent shop?

    • @stephenknoop182
      @stephenknoop182 2 года назад +2

      I was quoted ~$3000 for this job. It’s usually billed as an engine out procedure so it’s quite pricey. There’s the added complication that if the chain has worn through the pads and damaged the variocam unit then that needs to be replaced as well. Those are ~$1200 a piece, the solenoids can fail as well and they’re ~$200.

    • @poormansporsche744
      @poormansporsche744 Год назад

      @@stephenknoop182 $3000 per side? Or 3k for both sides, with additional costs if the solenoids or units need to be replaced? I am nearing having to do this job and was going to do both solenoids as a “while you’re in there” sort of thing. Do the units fail often as well or no?

    • @stephenknoop182
      @stephenknoop182 Год назад

      @@poormansporsche744 the price I was quoted was around $3000, primarily for labor. The complete actuators are are ~$1500 a piece on top of that if they’re bad, which is what you’ll have to replace if the chain has worn through the pads and damaged the actuator. The solenoids themselves are pricey but at least lower in cost at ~$300 a piece. They can fail but as far as I know they’re not a maintenance item like the guides are.

  • @keithtannenbaum1717
    @keithtannenbaum1717 2 года назад +1

    Did this car have the coffee can rattle at start up before the replacement of the chain guides?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +keith tannenbaum no, replacing the tensioner solved that just like it did for my car

    • @georgefraserr
      @georgefraserr Год назад

      l.replaced the tensioners on my 996 and it still rattles only on cold start. ? any ideas. pls 🙏

  • @teamground0229
    @teamground0229 6 месяцев назад +1

    Did Porsche improve the quality of the chain guides in later engines? Considering buying a Boxster S, wanting to find out what I am getting into. Thanks

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  6 месяцев назад

      +@teamground0229 I don’t think so. Slightly easier to replace though.

    • @warrenlucier5796
      @warrenlucier5796 5 месяцев назад

      I'm thinking this is why they went to the 3 chain system and that simplified it.

  • @19lol19
    @19lol19 2 года назад +1

    hello did you post video 2 yet?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Peanut Man give me a couple days

  • @davidvasta
    @davidvasta 2 года назад +1

    So is this a "regualar" service that needs to be done when the car hits a certain number of miles? What triggered this maintenance?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +David Vasta well, it is a common issue on these cars. For Stephen, the thing that triggered it was his cam deviation readings were at -8.4. For most people, they find the little bits of the reddish brown plastic in the oil filters. That’s why I know I need to change mine as well

    • @davidvasta
      @davidvasta 2 года назад

      @@HelpMeDIY Thank you. I have a 2007 Cayman with 138,000 and so far it's clean oil for me.

  • @luccyjayz
    @luccyjayz 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m looking for the timing kit tool needed for 2008 Porsche cayman S 3.4 . The links you have for the tools show unavailable, can you update it or send me the link or part number to the tool needed please!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  5 месяцев назад

      +@luccyjayz thanks for the heads up. Links should be updated now

  • @johnmorgan7262
    @johnmorgan7262 2 года назад +1

    So did you film seated? Or is the leg better? That seems an epic job. Having done timing chains etc. I thought those were difficult. This is more like brain surgery.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +John Morgan as much as possible 😂. I’m in a boot now and can walk some

  • @mattymatt3654
    @mattymatt3654 Месяц назад +1

    Is this something you'll have to do more than once?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Месяц назад

      +@mattymatt3654 I guess it depends on how long you own it. I doubt many people will.

  • @yourmomsmom311
    @yourmomsmom311 Год назад +1

    How many miles were on this boxster at this service

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Nick shepherd I think we mentioned it somewhere, maybe the last part on the dash? I don’t remember now.

  • @SHaDoRuN
    @SHaDoRuN 10 месяцев назад +1

    Did you find the tool to compress the solenoid

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  10 месяцев назад +1

      +Ken Maynard I did! But only because an awesome subscriber sent me one. Sorry that’s not too helpful for you I know.

    • @SHaDoRuN
      @SHaDoRuN 10 месяцев назад

      Could you possibly have picture of it.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  10 месяцев назад

      @@SHaDoRuN I can take one on Monday… contact me on FB or IG so I can send it

  • @garyhelms1889
    @garyhelms1889 11 месяцев назад

    This is "regular" maintenance. I'm selling my Boxster!!!! ...and I just bought it.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  11 месяцев назад

      +Gary Helms I hear ya

  • @garyhelms1889
    @garyhelms1889 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have no words. Why in the heck was this engine designed with this rinky dink piece. Was there no other option than to use this perishable part in such a hard place to get to. The amount of labor and potential for timing issues after reassembly seems ridiculous.
    What was the mileage for this car to need replacing those guide rails????

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  11 месяцев назад +1

      +Gary Helms well in their defense, I guess it’s better than the chain itself wearing and it’s a LOT easier to replace than the chain 😆

  • @georgefraserr
    @georgefraserr Год назад +1

    is this the same as a 996 911 engine m96

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +George's Garage I don’t believe so but I’m not a Porsche engine expert

    • @warrenlucier5796
      @warrenlucier5796 5 месяцев назад

      Same engine family and the casting # on the exhaust cam showed 996, but there will be differences due to engine displacement.

  • @navairgeek
    @navairgeek 2 года назад +1

    Now I see why a very reputable Indy here in San Diego will only do this by pulling the engine...

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +roger long that’s only because they haven’t seen my video yet! I bet they will start doing it now… 😂

  • @brucewayne2773
    @brucewayne2773 2 года назад

    Steven has a lift, this is where you should be working on your car if possible

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +bruce wayne Steven has a lift?

    • @brucewayne2773
      @brucewayne2773 2 года назад

      @@HelpMeDIY I assumed this was done at his home. I have a bendpak lift at my home. Priceless if you love to work on your own cars like I do.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      @@brucewayne2773 oh, no, that’s my garage!

    • @brucewayne2773
      @brucewayne2773 2 года назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY Great so you have a proper lift now. I saw a few videos where you still using those scissor lift

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      @@brucewayne2773 the Quick Jacks, yeah. Looks like you’ve missed my whole series on my garage build. You have some catching up to do! 😂

  • @samuelseager6785
    @samuelseager6785 2 года назад +2

    No, I don't want you to fail. That sounds terrible.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Samuel Seager well good 😂

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 Год назад

    if you disconnect and remove that much stuff, frankly why not drop the entire engine and tranny?
    much easier to work on it..

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад +1

      +911s73targa well, mostly because you’d still have to disconnect and remove all the same things AND remove the engine, which is more time/effort PLUS an extra time and expense of having to replace a lot of fluids.