How to TEST THE AOS on your Porsche before you replace it!

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  • Опубликовано: 3 апр 2022
  • This video shows you how to test the AOS (Air Oil Separator) in your Porsche 986/987 and other models to see if it needs replacing. You don't have to just assume it's bad anymore!
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Комментарии • 64

  • @uspaint
    @uspaint 2 года назад +6

    Another great Porsche video. Thank you.

    • @RuslanArdashev
      @RuslanArdashev 2 года назад +1

      What uspaint said. Thanks also 💪

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +uspaint you’re welcome! 🍻

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Ruslan Ardashev 😎

  • @90sPorscheguy
    @90sPorscheguy 2 года назад +1

    Another good video dude. Keep up the good work!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Kyle Douthett thanks! 🍻

  • @pjay3028
    @pjay3028 11 месяцев назад +3

    Just a note on this for people referring to this video for help.
    You said on a more recent video that you should have the manometer running before you actually start the engine, and get someone to watch for a spike in pressure during engine startup, as sometimes the AOS problem only spikes the pressure on startup and then it falls back in spec once the engine is idling.
    Thanks for all the videos.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  11 месяцев назад

      +p jay yes! Thank you

    • @pjay3028
      @pjay3028 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@HelpMeDIYhi, I just tested my AOS thanks to your video. It did actually jump to 7.1 on start up, then settled immediately back to 4.8 at idle.
      Do you think that spike is a concern?
      Thanks again for the videos.

    • @pjay3028
      @pjay3028 3 месяца назад +1

      I've just found a Flat 6 Innovations video that showed the AOS jump to 6.2 at startup and fall back to a steady 4.6 at idle and they were happy, so I'm hoping mine is OK! 🤞🤞

  • @mgkeoh
    @mgkeoh Год назад +1

    Nice video. I must get this bit of kit

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад +1

      +Michael Keohane thanks! I have a link in the description 😉

  • @a7xphenix
    @a7xphenix 2 года назад +4

    Every time you post a video whatever it’s on breaks, starter is going out on my 986 and you just posted a video, now I need new coils and plugs and boom you posted the video. Guess who now has alittle white smoke on startup

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Eric sorry! I’ll stop posting! 😝

  • @briansturgill5905
    @briansturgill5905 2 года назад +4

    Finally got around to doing this today. Pulling a 4.12 steady. Is that good? Thanks man for all the great videos!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Brian Sturgill yeah, thanks!

  • @williammcfadden6586
    @williammcfadden6586 2 года назад +1

    Great video and very helpful! I tried this today as I have no record of my AOS ever being replaced on my 1998 2.5 Boxster. My reading seems to be bang on but when I rev the car hard, the reading on the manometer can momentarily fall to close to zero when I let the pedal off and the revs are falling. Is this normal? When revving hard the reading goes just above 6, its the return to idle where I have this momentary low reading...Thanks!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +William McFadden thanks! The pressure will definitely change under revs, but I don’t know what “normal” values are under those conditions.

  • @stampedetrail2003
    @stampedetrail2003 Год назад +2

    Can't tell you how many weird issues cleared up after swapping the AOS, it's something I'd do again and recommend to anyone considering a Box or Cayman.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Brian & Sylvia pretty big failure point! 🍻

  • @Phil99six
    @Phil99six 2 года назад +1

    During the IMS Solution certification my AOS was replaced because it measured -6.09.
    I believe the range is -4 to -6 so I agree that it looks like yours is ok.
    But…..I’d still replace it and eliminate it as the cause of the smoke 🤷‍♂️

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +2

      +Phil 996 replacing the spark plugs and ignition coils has gotten rid of the smoke 😉

  • @RuslanArdashev
    @RuslanArdashev 2 года назад +2

    Stacked cars - low key (awesome) flex

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Ruslan Ardashev 😂 🍻

  • @a.c.e.7568
    @a.c.e.7568 2 года назад +2

    I have the same unit. It comes with instructions. If you press the HOLD button for more than 2 seconds, it will ZERO the reading.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +A. C. E. Ahhh thanks!

  • @plus790
    @plus790 2 года назад +2

    Replaced the AOS on the 986 a couple weeks ago, even though it had been done by the previous owner just a couple years ago. Once I got into it, I notice the lower bellows weren't seated. At that point I already had the topside disconnected so I put the new one in, but I suspect the old one was still ok. I wasn't getting a ton of smoke, but the motor was damp around the secondary oil pump and burning off on the new Fabspeed exhaust. Unfortunately I had already replaced the o-ring on that oil pump over the winter too, but oh well. And now that all this is done...I just found a 987.2! I'm going to fly down south on Friday to pick it up and drive back to Chicago. S model with PDK (had a slight preference for manual), Sport Chrono Plus, and a secret under the back--a Capristo exhaust. :)

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Adam Miller exciting fly and buy! Enjoy it!

  • @jeffwinne1589
    @jeffwinne1589 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really cool test. Kind of confusing. My 911 did the same thing so I replaced it with a Porsche motorsports problem solved.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  8 месяцев назад +1

      +Jeff Winne yeah smoke doesn’t always mean it’s the AOS

  • @ericbengle
    @ericbengle Год назад +2

    Can valve covers be resealed on a 2000 Porsche 911 cerrara without dropping engine ?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад +1

      +Eric Engle never worked on one of those so I could only guess.

  • @FlyinFreek
    @FlyinFreek Месяц назад +1

    Getting 12 and up at warm idle, I guess it’s toast

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Месяц назад

      +@FlyinFreek sounds like it!

  • @wwilliams1358
    @wwilliams1358 3 месяца назад +1

    So initially you weren't getting any readings, then you pressed the temp button and you started to get some readings. So is the process to press the temp button after start up to get a reading? I'm not clear on the process you did.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  3 месяца назад

      +@wwilliams1358 I have another video on the UAOS that I do this a little more clearly I think.

  • @jadmann
    @jadmann Год назад +1

    How about the oil gauge indicator on the instrument cluster! Mine shows at startup but I don’t see the usual elevated indicator as to oil level! Yes, dipstick checks out full but I don’t see my reading. Can you check this Aaron. I could use some DIY feedback! By the way, this occurred only after I replaced a dead battery and installed a new battery, belt, and alternator.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Joe Davis, Ph.D. Sounds like the sensor is bad, but I don’t know anything about that sensor, sorry!

  • @RuslanArdashev
    @RuslanArdashev 2 года назад +2

    I’m a little confused by the conclusion - according to the measuring tool the AOS is ok but the car is clearly smoking. Does this mean the issue is elsewhere? 😎

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +3

      +Ruslan Ardashev did you watch my spark plug and coil replacement video? No more smoke after that! Which proves my point that just because you have smoke does NOT mean you need to replace the AOS

  • @RockyTopAviator
    @RockyTopAviator 2 года назад +2

    This almost needs to be the type of tool you rent out to people for $25 shipped with the cap for your specific vehicle. While I want to do this, $70-$80 for a tool I'd use once, maybe twice, makes me shy away from it. Maybe I can take up some HVAC work or try to balance/sync carbs on a bike/car one day. Great video!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Jacob L. Not sure I want the hassle of shipping, but anyone that lives close enough is welcome to use it free of charge.

    • @RockyTopAviator
      @RockyTopAviator 2 года назад

      @@HelpMeDIY Understand completely, a man of your caliber (and stable) it definitely makes sense to have that tool.

  • @chenzhao1071
    @chenzhao1071 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm piling up a list of things to do LOL and almost every single item you've already made a video, ha!
    I don't see any white smoke on start but I just did noticed a rather high-pitch noise (not very loud but I'm super sensitive to noises...) only upon deceleration today which led me to look up things and it's possibly an AOS issue. I believe mine was replaced by previous owner at ~100k on 2018. Currently at ~122k, do they fail that often??
    Which area of NC are you in? If close by maybe I can borrow that special cap in exchange for some beer or coffee :D

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  6 месяцев назад

      +@chenzhao1071 they can fail pretty often! I’m in Greensboro 🍻

  • @vGnome
    @vGnome 2 года назад +2

    Good stuff. Does a 986.2 Boxster S use spark tubes?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Robwith2bs Wilcox great question. Never owned one so maybe someone else can chime in.

    • @nickfusco9667
      @nickfusco9667 2 года назад +1

      @robwith2bs Yes, it does use spark plug tubes.

  • @michaelhouck6526
    @michaelhouck6526 2 года назад +1

    Cool video - thanks for going through this, by chance did you happen to remove a/the known good oil cap from the car while the car is running? I read/watched video that said that can be a tell tell sign. On my 987.2 CS when I do this it will "suck" the cap back down, making me think I have a failed AOS and am seeing excess crankcase vacuum. Also, see you are in NC, saying hi from SC!

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад +1

      +Michael Houck thanks! No I didn’t do that test, but I also hear it’s a way (obviously less accurate though) to test the pressure.
      Hi neighbor! 👋

  • @David-hn5ix
    @David-hn5ix Год назад +5

    So what caused the smoke

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад +2

      +David funny you should ask… I’m about to go into the garage and start making a diagnostic video. It’s still smoking!

    • @TheCompyshop
      @TheCompyshop 15 дней назад

      I’m assuming the engine probably has cylinder bore score, which means it needs a rebuild

  • @gautobras
    @gautobras 4 месяца назад +1

    So why the smoke on start up?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  4 месяца назад

      +@gautobras bad bore scoring

    • @f.l.6049
      @f.l.6049 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY did you end up rebuilding? What was the process like?

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  3 месяца назад

      @@f.l.6049 yes, I'm in the middle of it now. There is, of course, a whole build series on my channel, do you not have notifications turned on?!?! :P

    • @f.l.6049
      @f.l.6049 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HelpMeDIY new to the world and channel, subscribed!

  • @summerli2700
    @summerli2700 2 года назад +1

    Hi friend. The video is awesome. Would you like to try our Boslla 6500K led headlight bulb? We wanna send it for you to try. I have contacted you on Ins dm. Hope to hear from you, thanks.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  2 года назад

      +Summer Li hey there! Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I have done a retrofit of the headlights on my Boxster so these would no longer fit.

  • @joe-serioushoward6201
    @joe-serioushoward6201 Год назад +1

    I’ve had three fail in seven years. Each time trashing my intake with oil.

    • @HelpMeDIY
      @HelpMeDIY  Год назад

      +Joe-serious Howard sounds right

    • @richardchandler9027
      @richardchandler9027 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yup getting ready for the third replacement in 137k. On an 01 986 S. Very frustrating. It is just an over engineered PVC valve . It is open at ideal to reduce emissions by allowing crank case vapors to be burned and pulls shut at higher vacuum. If not the oil vapors are pulled in at excess. Seriously it should have been a recall. Thoughts?

    • @joe-serioushoward6201
      @joe-serioushoward6201 6 месяцев назад

      @@richardchandler9027 I upgraded to the Ultimate AOS. Google it. It seems to be working great so far. No more AOS changes. Just change the diaphragm on top of motor because with the Ultimate AOS the diaphragm is now on top.